Liverpool Banter Archive October 07 2014

07 Oct 2014 20:00:12
Here's hoping the current set of international fixtures don't leave a number of our players injured (like the last lot did).

07 Oct 2014 18:21:07
Dislike him or love him on the pitch
balotelli is one of the most hilarious guys around something which football today really misses

{Ed001's Note - I love him when he is with another team, when he is with us, well I am only interested in what he does on the pitch then.}

07 Oct 2014 18:26:24
Links ain't allowed ed?
Ok guys just Google balotelli shopping essentials
Couldn't stop laughing

{Ed001's Note - is that from when he was at Citeh and his mother sent him shopping? I did a long list of some of the things he did on Arsenal a while back, when they were linked to him. My favourite has to be when Italy launched a new kit and decided to have the team wear the old kit in the first half and the new kit in the second half. Balotelli came out for the second half still wearing the old kit because he decided he didn't like the new one!}

07 Oct 2014 19:15:02
Yep ed. My fav was though was the epic line when he was caught with money in the back seat

" because I'M RICH"

Will look for that list.
Will it be allowed to be posted on here?

{Ed001's Note - yes mate, feel free to post it here. It isn't exhaustive, I was only trying to pick a few highlights and ended up with about 50 things! He is a real character.}

He's a legend. Thing is I like characters, life is just boring without them. Without getting political characters have been slowly taken out of society by rules, regulations and rubbish and lazy media.

Lets face it years ago if he'd have done these things it would not even got mentioned. A lot of it was just dressing roomesque banter. The press need someone to write about and he's a good target.

Like I say he's a legend of the pitch and let's make him a legend on it.

07 Oct 2014 17:04:33
When ever I wake up in the morning and go onto the internet I ALWAYS come to this site first everytime. Definatly the best thing the internet can offer.

Credit to all the Eds for making this a home for god knows how many of us.

Cheers

{Ed001's Note - thank you mate, we do appreciate that.}

07 Oct 2014 17:16:22
Same for me though I sometimes cheat on the page with "soccer manager"

{Ed001's Note - I feel used and dirty now!}

07 Oct 2014 17:24:27
ED01, Years ago when i just googled a decent football rumours site. This appeared in the second page.
Now on page 1 and right up there. shows the growth.

{Ed001's Note - I am surprised we are on page 1 to be honest. Google have messed us about for years. They often remove us from searches for no reason whatsoever. It is a right pain, as it takes months for them to review the decision and put us back.}

07 Oct 2014 17:29:12
Ed001

Don't feel bad . I'll grow old with this site.
And ed I have Sanchez and vidal both at Liverpool in one of the game worlds ;-)

{Ed001's Note - I doubt I will live long enough to see you get old!}

07 Oct 2014 17:34:25
They does that on a review If I am correct. But its back on page 1, first name.

{Ed001's Note - good, we need the traffic at this time of year!}

07 Oct 2014 17:53:57
Ed001

Don't worry. I'll have developed an immortality serum by then :-D

{Ed001's Note - best give that to Ed003 first, he is so old his stories that start 'during the war' are about the Wars of the Roses! Hmmmm just realised that gag might not carry so well to overseas readers!}

08 Oct 2014 06:44:24
Don't worry, ed001, I laughed! BTW, just googled "football rumours site" and football-rumours.co.uk was the top of the search returns.

I think you were saying a couple of days ago that that site doesn't really have much happening on it. ? You might want to redirect traffic/posts there to make it look busier if most google searches end up there. Maybe have the top 6 club specific sites as sub-windows on the landing page to direct people?

{Ed033's Note - thanks for the post

07 Oct 2014 15:14:48
I just voted on today's poll about Lallane and I'm amazed, gobsmacked, shocked and stunned to see people saying that he has not been impressive in the last few games.
If not Lallana then who the hell has been our great attacking influence in the last few games, . Plus he chases the defenders down, chases down the keeper, gets back faster than most, wonderful trickery and great passing.

Some are never happy here, Lallana was a fantastic buy and will be wonderful for us this season

07 Oct 2014 15:59:20
Relaaxx

Anyone could vote. It need not be Liverpool fans.

07 Oct 2014 15:59:51
I agree completely McGoveb. The passion he exhibited in a rather dull atmosphere after scoring. I can still picture him coming on against Basel and urging the guys on when they clearly weren't up for the challenge. He has literally improved every game I've watched him, and he's a leader. Very satisfied with the purchase, even at that price.

Maybe voted him as not impressing as they need a new scapegoat ;o)

07 Oct 2014 20:51:26
This is officially the first time I hit the agree button on one of Harry's posts. incredible! Keep it up harry :)

07 Oct 2014 10:53:11
Hi Eds

I posted on Banter yesterday, got a reply and posted a response. Nothing controversial or rude but the thread was taken down. anything wrong with it ?

{Ed001's Note - I don't know mate, I never dealt with it to know. But, bearing in mind that sometimes we have had to take down threads because of the nature the discussion took, I am looking at taking steps to change that. If the thread just turns into abuse and a slanging match, we will still have to remove it, but if it just gets too heated and ruins the tone of the banter page, I am going to get an option placed up for us to just move it to what is now the 'Others' page. Then the thread on the banter page will be replaced by a message saying it has been moved and a link to the thread. That way, heated discussions can be carried on, without the banter page becoming just a bicker-fest.}

07 Oct 2014 11:24:36
Ed001

Send em over to the banter site. As things stand we got plenty time available

{Ed001's Note - we could do a bit of both really. Depending on the nature of the post.}

07 Oct 2014 12:04:12
Ed001

One suggestion. No offense intended.
You have mentioned sending the heated arguments to the other page both here and on the arsenal page.
Now not many people visit the other page.
So what about creating a common footie banter page for all such heated discussions like back in the day for all teams? Something like No holds barred.
I recognize that yoi guys need to keep this page family friendly so this new page can be a bit more edgy.

Silly idea ed?

{Ed001's Note - that is why we still have the main football-rumours site mate, it is just that people don't often get involved in pages like that. They want to go to just where their own club is, for some reason.}

Thanks Ed01, no abuse from my side but perhaps a response from another was heading that way.

Another suggestion; In the quieter times between transfer windows, perhaps you should nominate 'Purge' days when you combine the Banter pages from different clubs; LFC and Man Utd on one day, LKC and Everton another, Chelsea and Arsenal another, etc etc.

Stand back and let the Madness commence !! Lol

On seconds thoughts

{Ed001's Note - I will look into it as Reet sees merit in the idea too, maybe we can do something.}

07 Oct 2014 12:27:14
Ed001

don't think anyone but fans of lower league clubs visit the football rumors page now.
It might be worth a try as I think it will especially attract the old (as I years following this site) posters

{Ed001's Note - ok mate, we will investigate how to go about doing that.}

07 Oct 2014 13:10:07
Ed001

Your decision needs to be final mate. I don't trust even my own judgment. Remember I thought the fantasy football page was a good idea ;-)

{Ed001's Note - the player ratings app will be up and running soon on there, so that should increase the numbers of people there for the fantasy football page. Plus we are going to create our own fantasy football game on there using the ratings later, so it should mean the page will get used more.}

07 Oct 2014 13:16:57
Now that'd be a great idea
Thank you mate for looking constantly for ideas to improve this whole set of websites.

{Ed001's Note - if you are not going forwards then you are going backwards, as everyone else around you will be moving forwards. We were hoping the player ratings would have been up and running ages ago, but there were some problems with finding the right info and something about screens being scraped and stuff. No idea what it means, but it should be up and running in a day or two, just in time for the internationals *fingers crossed*. Then it is the horse racing game to be put into open beta with competitions. While that is being put together by Ed033, some of the rest of us will sort out the rules for our fantasy football game. I am intending it to use the average ratings players receive from the editors as part of the scoring, part from the average ratings the rest of you ascribe them and the rest from their actions, such as scoring goals etc.}

07 Oct 2014 14:37:59
Ed001's Law of Motion lol :-)
Ed001

Some great ideas there. Especially the fantasy football league.
I'd be willing to help out with the non-software related stuff if you want it in regards to the fantasy football league
P.s really think yoi guys should take voluntary anonymous monetary contributions from the posters.
As long as it goes towards improving the site and not buying lingerie for Ed002 (lol just kiddingl most I think would be willing to contribute

{Ed001's Note - Ed002's lingerie bill has been huge since Ed007 took to ripping them off with his teeth. I doubt we could raise enough to cover even a quarter of it.....}

07 Oct 2014 14:54:39
Ed001

Lol ed :-D That is why he is in such jovial mood nowadays.
P.s One more suggestion though this is I am 99% sure crazy.
Guest Editors for the page on match day.
Not the harry's but more sensible people like ken aguero red rum etc

{Ed001's Note - we are looking at adding live chat across all the sites for match days to start with.}

07 Oct 2014 15:16:52
One question ed001
Is it ed033 only who does alll the programming stuff alone?

{Ed001's Note - yep.}

07 Oct 2014 15:26:16
Must be burdened lol

{Ed001's Note - keeps him out of trouble. Sometimes.}

07 Oct 2014 09:43:57
Just a thought.

I do not think Gerrard has the capacity to play as a box to box midfielder for 90 minutes twice a week, despite glimpses of his old self last week.

However, do people think Rodgers could do what Mancini/Pelligrini did/do with Yaya - start the first 65-70minutes in a deep role at which point bring Can/Lucas on and let Gerrard get forward if we need a goal?

Conserves his energy but also gets the best out of him in a short spell when needed.

07 Oct 2014 10:07:41
Too many tweak just to accommodate one player?.
Sorry I am not in favour.

07 Oct 2014 10:19:33
Why not just play him for shorter bursts in the more advanced role? Lucas or Can are better suited to the deeper role than Gerrard in terms of offering more protection to our back 4, especially with the full backs bombing up the wings, and I would so LOVE to see Stevie pushing the attack forward in what I regard as his best, and most effective, position.

07 Oct 2014 10:20:48
Not in the box to box role ( which will be known as the Henderson Position In the future) But In the hole playing just off the striker

06 Oct 2014 22:09:37
Ed001 who do you think is better out of Suso and Joao Teixeira, and who has the most potential?

Thanks mate

{Ed001's Note - right now Suso is a better player, just, but Teixeira has more potential, a lot more potential. I certainly wouldn't have minded Suso going if it was to make space for him to get a run in the team.}

07 Oct 2014 07:57:22
Texiera need atleast couple of loans to get some expereince. Suso is pretty much ready. Our first fruit from the academy ( Sterling and Flanno were Gamble). and off to Milan.

{Ed001's Note - why not give him experience by playing him in our first team??}

Suso isn't playing because if he becomes a good player for us in the next few months we then look like persons when he signs a pre contract with Milan. If he goes there & does well we can say it's the lack of quality in the league

07 Oct 2014 12:17:31
Suso isn't a bad player. there are quiet a lot of average player in the league
Is He good enough for Liverppol?. Ofcourse Yes. Do we have world beaters on each position?
That Suso would defo start for an Arsenal side. 150%.

07 Oct 2014 13:28:07
Suso our attacking midfielder starts 150% ahead of Ramsey, Wilshere, Carzola, Ozil and Sanchez?
Really Harry? He wouldn't get a look in at Arsenal, not neccasarily due to talent but like Liverpool, his path is blocked by frankly better players!

07 Oct 2014 14:18:20
Dezy

You ain't getting my point, He might not start above all of them, But He would defo won't be sold out to another club.
Wenger loves players like Suso, Intellegent and skillfull.
And given the injry list of Ramsy and wilshere, Suso would do a better role than Ozil down the left side of that Arsenal side.

The point here is, A pretty decent talent being sold at 0 mill, And I am damm sure, BR would begg to the owners to get someone similar with 1 year experience for 20 mill.

If BR wants to us to play a prefect 4-3-3 inch precise passing and moving system, There are very few players better than Suso.

07 Oct 2014 16:44:28
Given Ramsey and Wilsheres injuries, Suso would do better than Ozil.
That doesn't make any sense.
Sorry Harry, but for me, Suso has far more chance at Liverpool than he would at Arsenal. The only way that would happen is if Wenger did what he did with Arteta and shoehorn him into a defensive role, otherwise he would literally be 5th or 6th choice,
If Suso can't oust the likes of Allen out of our side, he's got no chance with Arsenal, who's midfield is by far their strongest area of the field.


If Wenger signs Suso and turns him into a world beater, I'd be quite happy to issue an apology and retraction, but I can't see it mate.

07 Oct 2014 17:30:12
Welsh

What you think Brad couldn't bench Migs??. Migs has been poor from an year and He is been given chance after chance.
Allen was literally ineffective last season, couldn't get 10 successive start ahead of Countinho.

I don't remember Suso starting a Liverpool match. Has the lad ever started for the club?

BR doesn't like a player and He is either sold or benched.

Bet me. Lovern would be starting over and over again untill He proves his worth. If it was just performance Lovern should be benched first.

07 Oct 2014 20:17:50
No I don't Harry.
I think it's quite childish to assume Rodgers picks all the teams based on his favourites,
Don't get me wrong, he will undoubtedly have them, but his starting 11 is far from who he likes week in week out.

I am going on the (perhaps naive) assumption that Rodgers watches Suso/Jones etc (why you mention Mignolet and Jones I don't know) in training day in day out.

I also assume after watching them, he assess who taking his points on board, who's improving and who's on form.

I then assume he picks his 11 based on the above, and also who we are playing.

The notion that Suso and Jones are worldies in training, constantly learning and improving and still omitted from the squad is silly.

It's quite disrespectful to suggest Rodgers would put his own job on the line, playing players who are performing at a lower level than Suso in the 11 based on grudges.

Again, I might be naive guys, maybe I'm wrong and the situation screams favouritism, but for me, the only person qualified to judge Suso (and jones, for that matter) is BR and his coaching staff. If they don't see either as first team material, they won't make the 11, or potentially the squad.

I thought that was how it worked. Coach. Judge. Pick.

07 Oct 2014 21:54:07
Welsh

Fair mate, But you agree our poor start to the season is down to BR and only BR.
He has spend quiet a lot and bought near 20 players out of which only Sturridge has managed to be consistently hit. He wouldn't want a bad impression on his transfer dealings to the outside world.
So He would keep picking Migs and Lovern.

Ballo is not his signing and that being one main reason he benched him to send a message to TC and Owners. Else He would drop quiet a lot off his own signings.

I would defo give Suso a chance mate.

Player : Suso
Position : ACM/LW
Transfer Fee : 0
Wages : Relatively cheap

08 Oct 2014 08:01:23
Sigh, no Harry I don't agree our poor start to the season is all BRs fault.
Sigh.