Liverpool Banter Archive April 08 2013

 

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08 Apr 2013 22:33:38
If winning trophies is now not how you measure success at a football club can someone explain to me how the hell you do?


08 Apr 2013 23:58:52
FowlerisGod mate your not allowed to air your views just trust Rodgers blindly and pretend we have qualified for Champions league or already have won our 19th league title, oh instead of Rodgers fergie is our manager, because trophys are not what has made this great club but 7-8th has, you even pretend Rodgers hasn't spend 60M because if you say you will be told Allen is next Xavi or Borini is next inzaghi or assaidi is next john barnes etc.

Fans are so scared of reality that they prefer fake world or dreamland where they have already dream,

1) Rodgers new fergie

2)Allen new xavi

3)Next season top4 is in bag because Arsenal, united, city and chelsea will be playing rugby then footy

4) We are only 2-3 players short of winning league title because united, city or chelsea will borrow us their 3 players to win us league title

5) Rodgers can never make mistakes, when we win is because of Rodgers, when we loose is because of players.


09 Apr 2013 00:19:48
Just hire Rodgers already achieved successs as trophys or top4 are not success nowdays only 7th or 8th are success.

Even united are looking for martinez or midtable manager to replace Alex ferguson, because nowdays micky mouse manager are the way to bring success!


Maybe somebody from Glasgow Rangers would like to take a stab at that one.


09 Apr 2013 11:34:43
BR's credentials and why I beleive he can win us the league as our Manager.

1 Possesses a 180-page dossier on idealism and phylosophy authenticated by Conficus himself.

2. Has good eye for fantastic, exceptional, phenominal and excellent talents like Allen, Borini and Assaidi.

3. Tactically astute and we all can see the progress that has been made in terms of league position.

4. Has a healthy opinion of himself as well as the ambition to rebuild LFC and match Shankley's records.

5. Can see the future and know those who will let him down even before they have had chance to kick the ball.


Now tell me: What more do you lads want? {Ed023's Note - Support the team and give up this obvious "man crush" ye seem to have in the manager}


 

 

08 Apr 2013 21:38:50
seems Liverpool have more no of midfield players than any other team. yet we are looking for another two player in that position.


Cos most we have aren't either good/ or CONSISTANT enough


Maybe some are leaving and going on loan


 

 

08 Apr 2013 21:21:51
I would like to know how Modric is doing at Real Madrid. Has he adapted to Spanish football well? Or has he struggled like Sahin did after his move from Borussia Dortmund? It would be nice to get him on loan next season like we did Sahin, as we need a more attack minded midfielder. There is probably no chance whatsoever of this happening, but if someone could fill me in on how he is doing at Madrid it would be appreciated.


I think he was just voted worst ever buy by the Real fans - hard to believe when they had Woodgate there not too long ago!


Modric is infact happy in madrid, he had a slow start as he did at spurs! But has put in a few good displays when called upon! He like a few more won't be moving to anfield


Despite having a slow start I believe that goal against UTD has bought him some extra time with fans who can see his quality. Even if he was to go I doubt we could afford him


09 Apr 2013 07:36:43
Whats this attack minded. ?
so what's hendo and allen and probbaly shelvey, gerrard?


Sahin didn't struggle at Real. Sahin broke his leg


 

 

08 Apr 2013 21:17:50
Notice a lot of players mimic Stevies goal celebrations? in particular the sliding on knees, arms outstretched


Or Henry's.

Ash


I love Stevie, he is amazing in so many ways. But he did not invent that celebration


 

 

08 Apr 2013 21:13:13
Message to our overplaying Maradonas-See Milners DEFLECTED Goal!-If you actually take responsibility and Shoot!-you can score.


We have more shots at goal than any other team in Europe! Only difference is ours don't seem to get deflected into the bloody goal.


Did you go on Sunday Nick? I do. And lost count of chances to shoot but opted for fancy flicks and wall passes when no more than 12 yards out!


Well Nick that told you. Something happened in one game and despite it being massively out of character, that's just how it is now


 

 

08 Apr 2013 20:01:49
Hi Ed001,

I know we hold the same views on Roy Evans but would like your input if you have the time.

I know he left when Houllier came in, do you think he felt betrayed by the club?

We were playing great football under him & I thought it was a shame when Houllier came in at that time.

Do you think he neede the help at the time? Do you think we could have won the league under him?

One last one, do you know if he still attends games at Anfield and still has links within the club?

Thanks for your time

Crooky {Ed001's Note - he was betrayed by Moores and it broke his heart. I am not sure anyone could have won us the league with Moores as chairman, to be honest, but Evans was the best bet we had. The only help he needed was a decent chairman. He still attends games and works for the TV channel mate, he is on there regularly.}


Ed is spot on with the comments. Evans was let down with a couple of targets that could have won us the league. Marcel Desailly was one player that he wanted and could have got but Moores said no. A good centre half was all that was missing from his team at the time.
robbie


Get Carra behind scenes. Failing that Thommo/Aldo-Passion and what being a Red means with knowledge and experience


Love Roy on lfctv! How he manages to get in so many 'at the end of the day' comments is a wonder!. ironic as I write this at 23:56!


As a younger fan who only caught the Evans last years really, I still cannot fathom the decision to regularly start David James and keep Friedel rotting on the bench. I just. I don't get it


 

 

08 Apr 2013 21:05:14
One of the biggest problems we have is that our two full-backs, whilst really good at going past players, are utterly horrible when it comes to actually passing the ball. With Enrique in particular, it is actually quite impressive how, in a generation that has produced some of the best passers of a ball the game has ever seen, he is possibly the worst.

The amount of possession we lose from these positions is terrifying. Enrique at least, recovers his defensive positions with strength. Would love to see Johnson have defensive responsibilities reduced by pushing him further up.


Enriques passing has impressed me, it's ridiculous dribbles in his own half where he thinks he's better than messi that are bad


Johnson's passing this season hasn't been better than Enrique's IMO. The 'worst' is a bit harsh to say as well. Enrique, though he seems powerfully bumbling at times retains posession pretty well. He's also started some great connection play for goals this year. Johnson is techinally better has passed pretty well this year, sure, but his turn over rate is too much for me. Passes being nicked or his nemesis, going forward.


09 Apr 2013 07:40:24
Johnson has been consistently worst RB in terms of defending.
He would never makeit to any national team outside england. But he is a beast going forward. and would be excellent played a RW.


Yer, he'd never make it to any other national team - in terms of what he's good at and what he isn't, he's nothing like Alves as the Brazillian right back.

He may not have the quality, but international football is full of full backs who are far better attacking then they are defending


09 Apr 2013 12:30:01
He may not have the quality, but international football is full of full backs who are far better attacking then they are defending

what u mean by this?


I mean he might not have the quality of Alves


 

 

08 Apr 2013 21:01:08
We hear a lot of people mentioning that we do not have a "plan B"
My question to you is.
If you could buy one player to use as your "plan B" who would it be and what difference would they make to the team that Suarez for example can not?

For me it would have to be a player like Benteke. Not only is he is a fantastic finisher, but he can also hold the ball up and make key passes bringing others into the attack too.

I would love to hear your thoughts and also the thoughts of Ed001 and Ed052 in particular.


Plan B doesn't mean route 1. It's not about bringing an Andy Carroll on and lumping it forward for knock downs, it can be as simple as a change in formation and personnel. When fans say there's no plan B they mean look at the bench, there's no one sat there who can make a difference. Shelvey, Suso and Assaidi to choose from. Not good enough
DBol


First team issues are a lot more important right now than paying 15 mill for a plan B.

We can look at plan B when we have plan A working properly.

Davey Sulls


So DBol who would you like to have on the bench who could come on and make an impact?


We already have the plan B - he's out on loan and called Ngoo. Big, strong and can actually control, pass and run with a ball.


 

 

08 Apr 2013 20:50:55
flicking over between u21s and the manc game. see united have found another good one in Mike Dean. some of the decisions have been a bit strange. Rooney 2 footed lunge = yellow card! even the commentators were saying it shoud be a red
robbie


 

 

08 Apr 2013 20:47:55
Imagine our payers coming off the pitch v Southampton and West Brom to face likes of Taggart! they seldom produce those performances and when do-they don't do twice!


 

 

08 Apr 2013 20:45:22
For all their Financial muscle City still finish 2nd (to hardly an impoverished team) You reluctantly have to admit, a 70 odd year old pensioner can still apparently put fear of God up 20 odd year old lads.
I don't like his methods but you have to admire the Success they've brought. And just as much that he can STILLcall on that at his age!


United too have flexed their financial muscle. for 20 years.

Nicky D


Lad above we ain't exactly not spent. Are you saying we've not won Title for so long because of not spending?
City's spending over short period has been huge. Fact remains-When you have either of their money-Man at helm makes the difference!


As much as I dislike United and SAF, you are absolutely right that you cannot not respect the volume he's acheived and the longevity of his time at the top


 

 

08 Apr 2013 20:45:17
The reason we are so rubbish is we keep paying big money for average players. I seriously hope we don't buy Mignolet de vrij and Weimann. If you think these lot are going to be any better than the useless Reina Skrtel and Downing your all living in a dream world. I do feel for FSG because they back the manager and apart from Suarez Coutinho and maybe Sturridge every other player brought in hasn't improved the team. DBol


Do the vice (or third choice) captain of the Dutch national team at 21, a player who has been looked at very closely by just about every big club who need defenders in the whole of Europe, is an average player? Quick someone I need a plunger, this mans head is stuck up his ass again!


No your right he's exactly what we need. All 9 stone of him. Bet you was over the moon when we wasted money on Borini Allen Coates Downing Adam Carroll Cole Assaidi too. What I'm getting at is probably 100m wasted there and not one of them players have done Fk all for this club. Each time you sell a player you should try to replace him with a better one


 

 

08 Apr 2013 20:31:08
I just thought I might clarify a few things that people seem to ask over and over again which is really frustrating

Ericsson- chances are slim at best of us signing him

Torres - was incredible 4 years ago and will never come back to lfc, nor should we want him to

Jovetic - not going to happen

Cavani - we don't have a hope in hell of signing him for a number of reasons, price tag, far bigger cl teams will be in for him

Wanyama - why do so many people seem to want him? No better than Lucas and certainly won't move to sit on the bench.

I too wish we could buy any of the above (bar wanyama) but it won't happen so can people stop making the eds repeat themselves


Agree with some but not all mate.

Cavani agree no chance at all.

Torres agree should never want him back or he want to come back.

Wanyama agree again overated after a decent season or so in Scotland.

Jovetic agree great player but bound to end up at a CL team.

Eriksen disagree I think we have a chance (admittedly an outside one, but still a chance).

Jonesred


Wanyama is a far better defensive midfielder than Lucas. Lucas is a good footballer, but a very average defensive midfielder. Teams rip through our midfield like there's no tomorrow, Lucas is powerless to stop anything. Nippy tackler and decent passer, but not a man to shield a back 4. That is exactly what Wanyama on the other hand can do, and he does it excellently, especially at such a young age. Definitely time to move Lucas a bit further forward and leave the shielding work to someone else.

DP


08 Apr 2013 22:33:33
I rather think its you who haven't been paying attention mate. Our targets are:
1. Henrikh Mkitaryan
2. Stefan De Vrij
3. Tobby Alderweireld
4. Andre Weimann
5. Thiago Alacantra
6. Baladz Dzudzak
7. Erikson
8. Ince
9: Dede
10: Adrian Lopez

Any 5 from this group would do for me, preferably Dede, Alderweireld, Lopez, Erikson and Mkitaryan, though I'm no fool and I know it won't happen. But just saying we have genuine interests in these players and not the ones OP mentioned.


Eriksen and wanyama are realistic targets! Do you want us to buy bad players?! Torres would also be realistic but wouldn't improve us so no. Saying that his wages would be too high actually now when I come to think about it.


Only ince from that list will sign! I don't know where the alderweireld and eriksen claims come from? Cause they will both end up at spurs!


Because Wanyama is a slightly richer man's Diame


I rather think you haven't understood my post. I haven't for one second suggested that these are our targets. I'm just fed up with seeing people posting rumours about us getting them in summer or asking eds what the chances are


 

 

08 Apr 2013 20:16:34
What is a plan b anyways? Lump it in to the box? No thanks

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Mate your knowledge of footy is really weak, plan B is not about lump it, its when your plan A don't work you quickly change it, trying to make things happen instead of waiting Suarez to do something exception/special to win games for us.

Example Barca have a lot of plans and tactics to win matches instead of lumping it.

You can change multiple formations to win games instead of lump it.

Barca play 4-3-3 or 4-6-0 or 3-4-3 or 4-2-4 etc

If teams park the bus then we need to make pitch bigger as we can by using width to stretch their defenders so our midfield can take advantage.

If teams play with 6 defenders or so then we need to play with more attacking players to stretch them etc

Theirs a lot of style to open teams insted of lumping it.


09 Apr 2013 03:07:02
Good to see some posters know more about footy spot on mate, posters like you are needed on this site.


I think you are the one misunderstanding. What people are saying about a Plan B tends to be in reference to Andy Carroll, which means just lumping it into the box. As a general plan B, Rodgers has changed formation and tactics in many matches this year


 

 

08 Apr 2013 19:39:00
Yet again Shelvey is demonstrating that he is amongst the top players in his age group and today is playing in a more withdrawn midfield role. Can see him getting another chance in the starting lineup. However, I really feel we lack a pacy physical player in the middle of the field who can track opposition runners from midfield as well as stride forward with the ball at his feet to help construct attacks. Shelvey is not blessed with pace, nor is Allen. Gerrards getting on and Lucas makes up for his lack of pace with his excellent reading of the game. Henderson will run all day but a Vierea-esque player would help cover the defenders and allow the midfielders to truly express themselves IMO.
DT


I agree with your post.
But if we got a viera type player in, then what do we do with Lucas? Move him forward slightly? But then Henderson and Allen will get pushed out.
Maybe rotation, the new viera type player when we need a strong physical presence and Lucas the rest of the time.

MIKEY


Well he runs a muck for England every time type play so he is probably right I think he should get a chance until the end of the year give him a shot


. shelvey. tell me your only taken the mickey. shelvey would struggle to hold up a place in the 1st division. in scotland. what a headless chicken,. coyb


Mikey my personal opinion is that Lucas needs to be rotated as you said, I think he would be excellent cover as a defensive midfielder but for me he lacks the speed and bite required for the Premier League week in, week out. I think his reading of the game is excellent which has compensated for his lack of speed and has been the reason why he has been good at getting tackles and interceptions in but for me a powerful holding midfielder in addition to a centre back (or two) and a versatile creative midfielder to play primarily on the right side is the order of the day to help us get top 4 next season.
DT


Coyb if I were you I'd be less worried about Shelvey and more about when Tony Pulis takes over from Noddy Holder's younger brother next season
Arnold


I have to say that you cannot expect Lucas to be at his very best after 2 major injuries which kept him out for a very long time. I agree that we could do with another DM as competition for Lucas. I expect Lucas to slowly get back to his best but patience is required!


 

 

08 Apr 2013 19:15:33
hi Eds I have two questions which I can't seem to find answers to
#1. would we not qualify for europe through the fairplay league as only arsenal and spurs are above us?
#2. do you know if there exists any clause in the suarez deal withe ajax for a selling on fee? I mean if we got this magic 40m people talk about do we owe ajax a cut? {Ed002's Note - (1) It is not as simple as that - you need to look at the table at the end of the season and consider where England is overall. (2) Not that I am aware and it is nothing to do woth teh €4oM - that is for something else.}


I'd be shocked if us, Arsenal and Spurs top the Fair play league - you know it's a lot more complicated than just yellows and reds right Craigu?


 

 

08 Apr 2013 19:11:11
I know everyone is frustrated after last night's draw. But why are we? If Rodgers finishes above last season, that's progress. He had a thin squad to start with. Kids playing to complete the first 11. Played half the season with only one striker. Lucas was injured for a long time too.

What do you expect from Rodgers? He isn't a magician with a magic wand in his hand. Please stop slagging our players & manager.

Lets see what kind of players he brings in summer. It's clear we need a beast of a DM. A solid CB to partner Agger. Cover or maybe a better LB. A proper winger for RM. A CAM with vision & goal threat. Maybe a striker like Bony.

Lets hope we get some money for Carroll. Skrtel seems like is on his way out. He will bring in good money. Coates too seems to be out of favor.

Let us wait till summer & see what FSG & Rodgers have in mind.

Musicnation.


Good post mate.
Rodgers needs a good summer, if he gets all his top targets for all the positions you mentioned and we keep suarez then LFC will be a whole different animal next season.

MIKEY


Top post Musicnation, anyone would have thought we got hammered on Sunday (excuse the pun!). For me, four quality additions and keeping hold of LS and we ought to have a squad good enough to make a real fist of it next season. BTW if I remember correctly you mentioned Chicarito in one of your earlier posts, great shout, a player like that would be an awesome foil for Suarez - I really wanted Huntelaar in previous windows but that ship sailed a while ago!
DT


Mikey=if but if


 

 

08 Apr 2013 18:10:16
Good Evening ed001.

I really like your views on tactics and current players and even though we may have been a bit frustrated and disagreed on some little issues yesterday I value your view, it's very important to me.

After reading a lot of posts of what you think of Enrique, that was one of the things that annoyed me with the game yesterday btw was Enrique always cutting inside, not keeping the width and taking up the positions that a winger or a playmaker should take. I also read that you feel we need a new LB. Earlier this season, Enrique was used up the field as LW and was man of the match 3-4 games in a row, I specially remeber his performance away at Stamford Bridge, he was brilliant.

So my question to you is do you think it might be possible to sign a new LB, F. eks Cissokho and use Enrique as a LM or LW? When he played there he was easily much better than downing as a winger but that's my opinion only. would you rather keep downing or enrique? if one had to go. Peace

Malak {Ed001's Note - I don't see him as a long term option on the left wing, he is not a patch on Coutinho after all. Personally, and I hate to say this as Downing is a really nice lad, but I would not keep either. Not if we had a replacement, that is. If not, I would not just let them go. Both are decent players, they are just not of the quality we require to push on, in my opinion. I would rather see someone like Ibe or Suso given a chance to cover the wide positions, instead of pushing Enrique up there. It must be said, he does have a lot of the attributes required to be a success as a winger, pace and power in particular. I just don't feel he has the movement to suit our way of playing, on a regular basis. Maybe he could learn that, but it would be a risk, especially as it would take time and we would have youngsters coming through by the time he was really getting used to it.}


Agree with you though on Downing Ed001!
Two seasons now and has not done anywhere near enough.
Save the money, keep Enrique and replace Downing instead.
The Juicer


08 Apr 2013 20:00:52
thanks ed:) again really helpful information and views. cheers ynwa

Malak


Can Enrique not just be coached into tracking back rather than staying static in the final third?
Enrique has real talent and is either the best player on the field or the worst, depending on the day.
But I feel his real problems are not down to a lack of talent but tactical awareness.
I feel if ed001 was his personal coach we would have the best left back in England.
It looks to me as if the defence is going to have to adjust to a lot of changes already this summer, replacing Enrique just looks a bit unnessasary to me.
I would bring someone in for competition (would be good for Enrique) but not a replacement.

MIKEY


Agree regarding Downing Ed, I've consistently maintained he does not fit our system, however I do feel that DM and CB positions are far more pressing than the left back spot at the moment and who knows we may well sign a centre back is also comfortable at left back.
DT


 

 

08 Apr 2013 17:14:17
From now if Liverpool are losing just close your eyes, if oppposition fans laugh and call our club laughing stock just close your ears, if fans say we are progressing just pretend we are playing champions league or after the season is over will win our 19th league title, when you see our manager at dug out just pretend his Bob paisley or alex fergusson, because if you air your views you will be called moaner or negetive or rodgers is next shankly etc.

Atleast we can keep rodgers supporters happy by leaving in fake world or dreamland.


Well maybe if some of the people on here actually said something constructive other than 'Rodgers out!' they'd be taken seriously, but constant whining without any explanation is just useless and boring. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, its an open forum, it just doesn't mean us fans who are thinking positively have to listen to your depressing nonsense.

JFT 96

JP


100% Correct. And the guys who call you for saying your points Mate are accelerating that demise with-Blind following acceptance mentality


Spot on mate cheers BRING RAFA BACK PLEASE!!!
Ahmed


Bring rafa back? R u having a tickle? Be quiet lad. I am one who is pissed off with poor play and results in the odd game but I have faith in rodgers and I understand it will take time. This season hasn't been great but we have played some brilliant football at times and also poor football, I truly believe next season we will get top four with the right additions.


I agree with JP. People are slating our owners without knowing the first thing about running a business. They slate Rodgers, the man who has given us our highest goal scoring campaign with one senior striker for most of it. We have fielded on average the youngest team in the league, so consistency will be a problem. Why not just view from January onward as a sign of things to come?
derryred


Did rafa Benitez win the premiership? How much money did he waste? How long did it take him to achieve 2nd place in the league losing only 2 games? Did rafa sell alonso, our playmaker, to try and bring in Gareth barry? Where did Liverpool finish in Benitez last season? How boring was Liverpools football under Benitez?

I'm sick to death of people mentioning rafa Benitez, I just don't see why people would actually want him back! It's pathetic! Liverpool need to look to the future instead of the past! Benitez had his chance and blew it big time and he's blown every managing job he's ever had. Fact


Rafa had a go and failed miserably give Rogers half the time!


08 Apr 2013 19:48:22
Jp mate easily and I repeat easily can be debated that rodgers is not the right man to lead us, how can a micky mouse manager lead Liverpool is still shocking how our mighty club have fallen, oh dear we are on verge of missing even europa after spending more then 60M.


Fergie was a Micky mouse manager when he joined man utd


We live in realistic land.
The ones who live in dream land are the ones who expect us to be challenging on every front and smashing united 5-0.
That type of "fan" is very naive and disrespectful of other teams. Just the problem the team has seemed to have had for years now. They just expect to turn up and win against teams like west ham. They never look as committed or organised like they do when playing the likes of Chelsea or
man city.

MIKEY


08 Apr 2013 21:38:37
Fergie was not micky mouse manager when he joined united, infact he won european trophy beating the likes of Madrid and barca, and multiple league and domestic trophys/titles with aberdeen, he even was scotland manager.

Comparing Rodgers to alex is not only joke but only a fool can compare a mick mouse manager with Fergie.

Rodgers will not long last I can guarantee that he won't achieve top4 next season which he promised to our owners, his Cv is worst then Carragher or Gerrard etc infact these players have won more medals then micky mouse manager that says it all.

Gerrard!


Just for the record I have not come across any Rodgers supporters on this site - only Liverpool supporters of which some are getting behind the current manager who is BR (myself included). Forget all this Rafa nonsense Ahmed next you're going to be asking for Fowler to put his boots on for us again. And as for the disrespectful comment about BR being a Mickey Mouse manager I remember a Mickey Mouse manager taking over at Porto a while back, I forget his name, he won the Champions League, some people mock him call him the interpreter, damn it what was that mouse's name? Oh yeah that's right - Jose Mourinho.
DT


Fergie managed a team in great days of Scottish players to smash old firm and win in Europe with a provincial club like Aberdeen. And I'm a Red. If your too young to know facts, don't post at all


08 Apr 2013 23:57:41
DT I support rodgers as well!
And really want him to suceed to shut up all these 'supporters' who forgot what the word Support means.

Malak


09 Apr 2013 01:05:03
Dt giving example of mourinho with Rodgers is just childish or fans have very little knowledge of footy, you can give any kind of examples they mean nothing, I can say rodgers is worst then souness after all souness spent no where near Rodgers and still won cups for us, and his regarded the worst manager ever to manage Liverppol, rodgers has even broke souness record now what will you say?


 

 

08 Apr 2013 17:12:16
Just wondering what the general feeling was now with Downing. First it seemed it was just a matter of time and now nobody seems quite sure. Wouldn't mind having him as a squad playing depending on how high his wages are. Great love for the eds as always. Jimbo


08 Apr 2013 17:46:18
Great squad player, I would like to see someone with a bit more speed, better crossing and shooting as a regular starter. I don't want us to sell him, but would be nice to sign someone of the above description to be playing league games, and keep downing for the cups or as back up. If he is the, without sounding disrespectful, last choice winger, I think our attack would be in pretty good shape. Oh and in answer to the original question, he is playing much better this season than last, and i'm pleased to see this. I hate it when our players are getting stick from supporters.


Well he has improved but he just doesn't score enough for a winger in a front three. I would keep him unless a good offer comes in but I think we should still invest in a winger.
derryred


On far too much money to be a squad player


It's a shame you didn't put a name on that last post mate, I've been saying this for months now.
DT


I think downing is a good squad player. He is just too afraid to take a shot sometimes.


 

 

08 Apr 2013 16:13:12
Hi Ed001

Just wondering which players YOU would like Liverpool to buy in the summer?

Thanks

Mac {Ed001's Note - Medel, Honda and a left back and centre back, though not sure which ones, I have not seen any recently that stood out, that we could get. I mean Luke Shaw would be a fantastic signing, but no chance of him, even if we wanted him. I will have to have a think about defenders.}


Would love armero for left back


Thanks for your response Ed

Why would you choose those players? Do you feel Honda could make the transition into the prem?

In terms of left back Schennikov from CSKA is rated highly as well as Lucas Digne of Lille?

Personally I would love two out of Alderweireld, Martins Indi, and Dede

I would also look to move Johnson on

Do you think Rodgers will target a right winger as an upgrade to Downing?

Thanks

Mac {Ed001's Note - we miss bite in midfield, Medel has that in spades, he is also a very good footballer. Honda is just a quality player, I think he would fit in brilliantly in the Prem. I haven't seen enough of those players to judge them to be honest. I would think another attacking player would be brought in, with Downing's place most at threat.}


Just wondering why you say that even if we wanted Luke Shaw we have no chance? It's not as if he's Alba, Contreau, alaba etc. or am I missing something?

Thanks


08 Apr 2013 21:02:35
Luke shaw is a chelsea supporter and chelsea will sign him in propably 18 months, but if another club bids for him this summer then I would think he will move to chelsea this summer and loaned back. Plus I believe southampton are a 'rich' club and don't need to sell anyone and he will propably be over-priced. We also have jack robinson so it makes no sence at all.

Malak


Hello Ed,
are we actually interested in Medel?
He has been an excellent buy and I have been banging about for Quite some time we should sell Shelvey if that's what it needs to fund a move for Medel.
On the LB part there arn't many good ones around (who aren't 18 or 19) so I reckon it would be better to buy a CB who can cover for LB someone like a Bruno Martins Indi or Sakho or someone else.

Finally regarding the part of replacing Downing could Jeremy Menez be an option?
Quality player has pace, guile, abliity to pick a pass and would be available for around 6-8 million. {Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}


 

 

08 Apr 2013 16:43:17
Anyone else think we should try sell Glen Johnson he is English so he's worth a right few quid


I guess sales is not your forte!


 

 

08 Apr 2013 16:35:25
I worry about the financial implications on our club. We are nearly £90 million in debt, we have no realistic chance of european football this year and our rivals are pulling away in terms of increased revenue. We have the 7th biggest capacity in england and are a lowly 192nd in european stadiums, not a great read for all fans. We are continually behind our rivals and slow to react to improve ourselves as a global brand. We have 32 executive boxes at Anfield. Arsenal have 152. At present we can't compete. Manchester United have just signed a £120 million naming rights deal with Aon and have a £375 million deal with chevrolet, that is near £500 million over an 8 year period. Were are we in terms of bumper contracts? Without champions league income, a larger capacity certainly more than the 60,000 being touted we will always play 2nd fiddle to our rivals.


The Chevrolet deal was a mix up with one of the executives and he got fired majorly.

BthekingB


 

 

08 Apr 2013 16:10:16
Should we have won yesterday? The game I watched showed Lucas clearing one off the line, and Diame bursting into the box, only to scuff a shot; not to mention Enrique clearly kicking a player in our box. We may have dominated possesion in useless areas, but the truth is that West Ham should have won the game, and probably would have if Carroll was playing.

We are not strong enough of a team that any given game is a guarantee, and I would argue that few games in the PL are guaranteed. I was happy enough we didn't lose. We didn't look like winning from the off.


They also cleared off the line and had us scuff 5 or six shots after taking the ball to a good position, not to mention Gerrard should have been awarded a very clear penalty way more certainly than the WH penalty appeal. If everyone took all their chances we'd have absolutely battered them, so sorry but your argument doesn't work at all and West Ham should in no way have won that game


Wise up will ya. jayus!


C Cole should have scored too, had a clear strike at goal yet managed to fire it wide of target and directly at a L'pool player!

HB


He was firing wide but he didn't fire it at a Liverpool player, Agger covered an immense amount of distance and closed the area that Reina wouldn't reach very well. Someone blocked an arrow into the corner from Courtinho in the first half, by your logic that should have been a goal as well and as to him firing wide - we fired wide more than they did, so how many 'should have' goals are you adding to us?


Samsam9000

I think the OP was making the point that lots of people posted following the game that 'Liverpool SHOULD have won the game' when in fact both teams had opportunities to win it. My honest opinion - a draw was the fair result. I was just adding to the OP with my 1st post.

HB


 

 

08 Apr 2013 16:02:35
Disappointing result yesterday. The lads just seem a little off. Nothing clicking in the final third, which hasn't been the case since xmas. Suarez played perhaps his worst game, giving the ball away repeatedly.

I would really like to see Suso back in the mix and perhaps Shelvey again, unless a decision has already been made about his future.


I don't no what happened with shelvey this season I mean a bit harsh by Rogers giving him the cold shoulder I think he has quality he is young and two bad games Rogers drops him for the season any idea ed001??? {Ed001's Note - Shelvey? He has had numerous chances, his form dipped, he still kept getting chances, then eventually he reverted to the reserves/U21s to get some football. Young players sometimes need to be removed from the spotlight to have some time to think over what they did right and what they did wrong. It also keeps them hungry.}


Thanks ed001 grate answer I was thinking the same with suso and sterling
Do you think shelvey has a future at the club?
Thanks appreciate it grate work {Ed001's Note - I think Shelvey is going to struggle now, he is going to have to earn it, there is a lot of young players coming through for his position and Henderson there right now. I don't see what he offers over any of them, to be perfectly honest, right now. We have a surfeit of attacking midfielders in the U21s and younger teams, the likes of Texeira have far more ability. Shelvey is a trier, but he is also rash and lacks pace or any stand out qualities that could help him cement a first team place. I just can't see him making the grade with us.}


I think Shelvey might well have a career in the Premier League, just not with Liverpool.

The Irish Rover


 

 

08 Apr 2013 15:36:32
Wow, reading some of the comments on here really surprise me?!?!

BR, sorry but not his fault, he's trimmed the squad and the wage bill and is trying to develop his own style. The football is improving its just consistency that's required.

Further additions this summer should help us on to the next phase of the teams development and we can then judge if things are moving in the right direction. Its tough but we cannot continue to change manager, we need stabillity otherwise we are in real danger of becoming the next Leeds!

FSG, back the manager this summer! (sorry but no matter the age, if the player can improve us then that's good enough for me, Gary Mac for example!)


08 Apr 2013 16:32:29
Stability doesn't come from manager it comes from board or else wenger who has been at arsenal for 18-22 years would be dominating epl or moyes at everton would be winning league tittles, chelsea always change manager but yet they are most successful club in 10 years.

In modern footy managers are just transient like players nothing more, but boards and owners play bigger role, if you see today there are very, very few manager who have got total controll or power because their are no more then just transient!


 

 

08 Apr 2013 15:35:34
Suarez and sturridge both mega selfish, just what we need LOL


That wasnt funny?


If you have disagreed you clearly didn't watch the game yesterdy!


 

 

08 Apr 2013 15:34:24
I won't be passing comment on my personal opinions of Thatcher.

However, for those that are free tonight there is a massive party at my place! BYOB.


It's a shame that the post earlier on has had to be taken off the page, probably due to abuse.
I am going to say again - I bet that
1. Liverpool are last on MoTD on Sat night and
2. The highlights are about two minutes long with no recording of the songs we know there'll be.


Nice one OP I've at least 30parties to choose from tonite!


 

 

08 Apr 2013 15:34:19
Rubbish performance yesterday and for BR to say it was anything else then he's deluded!
And to play with one upfront at Anfield against a poor West Ham team is spineless!
He is sacrificing a second striker at home so that he can play an absolutely useless DM in Leiva! Is that what we have come to?!
I can't see any pattern to the play, the substitutions are poor and BR doesn't seem to have a plan B!


Do you have a plan B?

Anyone sick of people posting the likes of this garbage going on about plan b lol
and all they are doing is repeating what some other mug has said then comes on here and pretends to know what they are talking about LOL.
Its easy for any of us to sprout out verbal poo about doing this and that to the team.
If it was that easy to be a manager why don't the you feck off and do it and prove to us all how it should be done.
But that won't happen as you're too happy to come on here and type poo on your laptop.
This damn Xfactor generation will be the end of us all.
Praise allah


We don't play a holding mid against Southampton and Oldham - 'why isn't he playing a DM? He's clueless, he's rubbish, kill him!'.

We play a DM - 'why are we sacrificing a second striker for a DM? He's clueless, he's rubbish, kill him!'.


08 Apr 2013 18:18:53
Plan B? If we were after a band we could hire Dave and his harmonica, surely a lot cheaper?!? ;)


What is a plan b anyways? Lump it in to the box? No thanks


 

 

08 Apr 2013 13:51:32
ed002 what do u think the owners view is on rodgers constantly talking about this season as "transitional" and that we were never going to be good this year? from what you have said before the owners certainly didn't see this season as a transition {Ed002's Note -I would think they will not care much about what Rodgers says right now. Certainly if he were to say anything that could damage the club then that would be different.}


Ed002 what do u think the owners think of rodgers when they see results like yesterday, southhampton away, west brom home etc? do they still believe he is the right man for the job or will they look to make a change? {Ed002's Note - It will be dealt with as part of the end of season review.}


Ed002 do u think there is a chance that the end of season review will lead to rodgers being sacked? {Ed002's Note - This has been done to death, but yet again I do not know of any intention to sack Rodgers this summer.}


What do people think of Sami hyppia taken over not next year give Rogers another season but the year after (if he keeps the good work up)!


 

 

08 Apr 2013 14:41:33
hi eds

what's your opinion on what Liverpool need this summer me personally would like to see a new defender a world class attacking midfielder and a striker {Ed001's Note - left back, centre back or even two, defensive midfielder.}


Ed? how can you say left back is a priority over rightback? {Ed001's Note - because we have Kelly, Wisdom and McLaughlin.}


Hi Ed, is that new left back as a replacement for either Enrique or Robinson, or as back up? I understand some of the younger left backs at the club are impressing as well. Would you like to see Smith or O'Hanlon promoted?

Cheers {Ed001's Note - Enrique, I don't like the way he runs forward and then just stands still. He is just blocking anyone else from making a run and seems to have no intention of making a different movement until the play breaks down. I do like the look of Smith, not sure on O'Hanlon yet, but none of the young ones look quite ready to play regularly. Though Robinson is, according to Wolves fans, playing better and better as he gets going.}


And what if we loose luis suarez? What you you do with the cash ed001? {Ed001's Note - striker, that would have to be the priority or we would be back to only having one!}


Enrique is pretty solid defensively though Ed001, very rarely get's done on a one-to-one. Your usual bugbear is that G Johnson is always sloppy defensively. You can't have it both ways mate. Kelly or Wisdom doesn't overlap. Enrique at least puts himself forward. I think you're being a bit harsh there and inconsistent as well.
The Juicer {Ed001's Note - sorry, I did reply to this once, must have forgotten to choose a box to post it! I agree that when Enrique actually gets back, he is solid defensively, the problem with that is that he is not the best at getting back either. He was the same at Newcastle, so it is clearly an issue with him, rather than getting instructions. For instance, in the 2nd half against West Ham, there was a break by them, down his flank, and he made absolutely no effort to get back, just kept jogging slowly back. The attack was held up and yet he was still not rushing to help, just ambling along watching. If he was more balanced, and did get back more to help out, then I would be happier with him. As it is, he needs a kick up the arse, because he can be excellent when he is under pressure for his place.}


Well, don't agree with you on this one.
If we got a DM, he'd sit.
Get a pacey central defender as well, then our fullbacks will be able to get forward more. Johnson and Enrique will be OK for that.
So I'm going to advocate spending the money elsewhere, and not a new LB.
The Juicer


I always thought Enrique was poor at decision making as well Ed001. He is good physically and technically but more often than not chooses the wrong thing to do, e. g. the wrong pass or wrong direction with his runs. Would you agree on that Ed or do you just think it's his lack of effort getting back and lack of movement when he is forward?


 

 

08 Apr 2013 14:32:27
We should just give ajax 25mil for erikson and toby. Then we should look at benkete, lambert. Still we don't have a poacher. It is so obvious. Yesterday everytime a player got to the by-line, everyone in the box was looking for the cut back and no-one carries there run into the 6 yard box for someone to drill it across goal. Happens every game. I would hope Brendan has seen this but by the looks of it he hasn't. Still need convincing!


Think they are both off to spurs? And if their not I can't see them joining lfc


Why would they go to spurs. it looks like they won't be playing champs league either


 

 

08 Apr 2013 14:17:23
Ok let's have a dose of realism.
The people who come on here exploding with excitement at whatever Rodgers says or does CANNOT expect everyone else to follow suit, I for one think we're only a player or 3 short of being great but there are plenty who pay their hard earned money every week who are not totally wrong in saying we havnt moved forward.
lets look at it, we brought in a man who needed time to instill a system we also brought in a man who needed to learn how to deal with a big club and all its expectations not to mention its impatient fan club, we were told it was going to take time but through time we would see the benefits. now that's fine
But also. We have been constantly told throughout the season when things were going well that we are staring down the barrel of fourth spot, when things have led us closer to the 4th position whether it be Rodgers or Carra or whoever, someone has told us we're aiming for the top four. then when things are going wrong. like the Villa game at home etc etc we get told we're only looking at getting as high as we can in the league and either way we're seeing improvement.
Look the fans aren't daft, we see what we see, the ones who come on here stating if your only concerned about winning trophies then you have no right being a fan are talking absolute nonsense, this IS a results business where the top teams reap the benefits and go on to bigger and better things, we as fans can see that its not an easy job and we can see that its not a 5 minute ride back to the top, but do we expect to be challenging for trophies etc?. of course we do! that's ultimately why we pay our money, we're not in the Norwich city bracket (no disrespect) whereby we're happy if we avoid the drop, we're supposedly in the top bracket of teams in the premier league.
Now i'm not here to say whether Rodgers is doing a good or bad job, i'm merely pointing out that if someone thinks the team were better off last year with 3 Wembley appearances then they have a valid point, but I also see the merits in building from scratch and trying to create something. Either way nobody deserves to be told to jog on and support another club we're supposed to be in it together through thick and thin and we're entitled to our own opinions, there is far too much attacking our own on here and what good is that going to do?. We're all frustrated as we watch the likes of the Manchester clubs at the top and your London clubs giving it the billy big nuts but We're Liverpool F. C, we're supposed to have more class and be the most knowledgeable fans in the country, not the bitterest who argue amongst themselves and only see the past disappearing over the sunset. Did I like Kenny in charge?. yes. Do I like Rodgers?. yes. Do I think both made horrendous mistakes in the transfer market?. of course. but let's not desert the ship yet boys let alone start turning on our own, let's start shouting louder about who we are and who we support. Starting at the very quiet of late Anfield. i'm sure the lads on the park could do with it right now with 6 games to go of a very long season
YNWA JFT96


Bang on all should respect each others views no matter how disagreeable to each other or critical/Rose tinted they may seem. We all just want the best as Reds. And the real truth is as per in most arguments and debates-someway BETWEEN both extremes of views


 

 

08 Apr 2013 13:21:33
I went to the game yesterday and I couldn't believe how quiet anfield was! The kop was quiet main stand was quiet the west ham fans were by far the loudest! What's happened to our feared atmosphere flags going ten to the dozen we get anfield roaring the team will roar like warriors we are! We come not to play means a lot we come to win. Were Liverpool FC so supporters of LFC stop moaning and attacking each other and stick by the team and let's get anfield back to the way it should be and strike fear in to anyone who dares come to our home and let's take that fear into there stadiums and let's tell there thousands if fans Liverpool football club is taking over YNWA

Al


The atmosphere at Anfield has been poor for a lot of years. It is only decent against Man U. Sign of the times I suppose at our once great club.


It's because there's no belief. Our squad is awful and although the fans support the club, deep down we all know the players here are not good enough
DBol


Bang on post above


I was quiet yesterday because I knew after 10 minutes that it just wasn't going to be our day.

Unfortunately, most of Anfield was the same. And even more unfortunately, we were right!

It's honestly pretty hard to get excited when the lads are giving us nothing to cheer.


Coyle's Law states.


 

 

08 Apr 2013 12:57:19
seems I have become a favourite here.
every time livrerpool loose or draw.
I loose my bet with my girlfriend.
and then screwed for one week.

Harry Scousser

___________________________________________

Rule #1 - Never use the words "loose" and "girlfriend" in the same sentence, regardless of order and the words separating them (Unless of course those words are "is not". although even then, denial simply suggests you are hiding the truth).

Rule #2 - Never suggest you are a favourite again. Reading through the replies you get, you seem to be a villain in these parts ;)

Rule #3 - Sentences start with Capital letters, and the 'enter key' is not necessary after every full stop (as a side note, never start a sentence with "and"). I won't criticise spelling as everybody makes typos, I'm simply adressing the general structure of your post; although "Scousser" has become consistent and is clearly not a typo. One 's' mate :)

Rule #4 - Never make a bet with your girlfriend! If you win, she'll never pay. If you lose, she'll never let it go, regardless of whether or not you pay up.

I'm always here to help good friend. Sorry to go all 'Moses' on you and throw commandments in your face!

YNWA! (Adam)


Your missus has a 2 in 3 chance of winning surely a draw should be a tie or what's the point.

Win - yay
draw - boo
lose - boo

Thats a mugs gamble.

Kopping a feel


Adressing should be addressing. Pot calling kettle.


 

 

08 Apr 2013 12:05:36
Lots of fickle fans calling for Brendan to go- you'd have thought we had lost.
In my view BR will learn from yesterday and see that we need a bit more in some games to unlock opposing teams when they come and park the proverbial bus.
Hopefully there will be a couple of attacking options added to the squad in the summer as well as defenders.


The only thing BR actually achieved this season was lowering our expectations face it even the most optimistic of our lads here believe we can't do any better than finish fourth or fifth next season seriously what happened to the mighty reds I ask you what on earth happened to keeping our aims up high to chalenging for the title well I read this banner somewhere and I believe its spot on Liverpool created by shanks destroyed by yanks and to all those who ask for stats and rubbish heres a reality check for you six great seasons and one off season and you want rafa out yes we finished seventh that season but our points tally was 63 you sure BR can match that this season? and don't forget the season before that where we came in touching distance of the league didn't he deserve another year and then what about king kenny got you into one cup final won you the other and yet you sack him and bring an inexperienced manager who doesn't do rubbish this season and you still expect us to get behind him?


Throwing on Andy Carrol would have been useful (in a red shirt of course) to offer something different?


 

 

08 Apr 2013 12:01:36
DeDe getting in most teams ha did any of you lot see him play? (Apart from YouTube)


08 Apr 2013 15:40:56
Haha, agreed man. By the way I think it will be very very very hard to get him a work permit. he is 24 and hasen't played an international game in 2 years unless its Man-Utd or Chelsea.

Malak


I'd sign two from Alderweireld, Sakho, Lovren or even Williams ahead of Dede.


Williams ahead of Dede? Can't disagree enough


 

 

08 Apr 2013 11:41:05
Why has suarez been poor for 2 games? Thoughts?


08 Apr 2013 11:58:56
he wasn't poor at aston villa. did you see the villa game?
He was amazing and got us the winning penalty and if he had a bit of luck he would have a brace.

Yesterday I don't know. I have never seen him this bad, his touch, his shooting, even his dribbling was below par yesterday. (maybe thinking to much about Bayern)

Malak


Knackered? He did have a game midweek in Uraguay last week. that's my guess


Perhaps he is mulling over whether to join Juventus or Bayern this summer?

Disney!


08 Apr 2013 12:41:03
Perhaps he's human :O

YNWA! (Adam)


I know! Poor for two games in a season is out of order. We should sell him as it's not good enough.

Crowman.


Obvious!=knackered carrying goal scoring burden and side on own!


Maybe he is human!


Because input him captain of my fantasy team! Standard!


What a ridiculous statement! He hasn't been poor at all he has had two games where he hasn't scored - every striker in the world misses chances and has games that frustrate - its football!

If Suarez has been poor RVP must be done for!

I'm sick of all this negativity!


He has played a lot of games at high intensity and has been travelling for internationals only a couple of weeks back. We are also nearing the end of the season and he might actually be getting tired.

Malak, I am with you on many of you posts, especially the ones disagreeing with Harry Scousser, but common man, that's a bit ungrateful.

The real AG


Apart from being offbeat he was also selfish when he could have found someone in the box. Dunno what's going through his mind. just hope he is not having German lessons!


Don't be silly Disney!

Everyone knows he's off to Bayern!

HB


08 Apr 2013 15:49:42
The real Ag my friend. I didn't mean it to come out like that at all. But its almost the end of the season and he is propably thinking about it at some point.
I am very grateful to have a world-class player like him, it's just like when you feel like loosing your girl-friend (try to pretend its all good when it really isn't) Because these agents and advisors man, they are from Hell and will put bad ideas in his head and so on.
If Suarez was to stay with us next season and don't even push for a move I would be the happiest man on earth because it will show me, that its not just me who is loyal to Liverpool since I was 5 years old, that there is still some decency out there. But that's propably a dream. The world is not like that anymore. : (

Malak


You put him as your fantasy football captain? You selfish man!


I understand where you are coming from Malak. Ed002's info tells us there is a very good chance he might leave. I just hope that doesn't happen, because come summer, I don't think it will be possible to find a player of his ability, work-rate, hunger and commitment.

The real AG


 

 

08 Apr 2013 10:27:21
Could someone please tell me how this season is an improvement on last season, I just don't see it. I'm sorry but Brendan is not the man for LFC, he is way out of his depth. BIG CHANGES NEEDED.


08 Apr 2013 10:42:04
NEW SUPPORTERS NEEDED

thats the only problem I see.

Malak


Last season - 52 points all season, big squad, less competitions, limped through one cup final against a lower league team as the only achieverment.

This season - 49 points with 6 games left, a smaller squad managing more competitions and therefore a larger amount of games. Likely to end up higher in the league and scoring significantly more and playing much more attractive football.

If you're the type of fan that only looks at trophies, however rubbish the trophy, as a measure of success then fine, enjoy yourself. But how can you not even comprehend the other side of that coin? Pathetic


The main change is getting rid of muppets like you who are killing the club with your negativity. 90% of lfc fans see we're playing better. Scoring more and conceding less. So why is it that your sad little mind sees no improvement? Cause we haven't signed cavani or falcao. This season only 3 or 4 really poor games the rest I totally enjoyed watching. Next season I don't except much, maybe 4th or 5th. But season after next I expect major things for lfc and fans. Fin


OK if you feel that BR isn't doing a good enough job explain more. don't just say no improvement Rodgers out. what would your plan be, who would you like to see in the manager seat? but you won't as all you do is moan, I think some of the football this season has been great I always thought we would struggle this season to work with a new manager (AGAIN) but this is the first season in a long time that I have seen us thump teams 4-0 more than once. I wouldn't mind guys bitching about Liverpool if they had something to back it up with but shouting get out Rodgers is not going to help you the club or anything else so what really what is the point of it. this is a banter page so let's get some banter going, some discussion around how to improve out club and support not just nonsense for the sake of nonsense. This site would be 100 times better if people added constructive critism on here which would benefit everyone but I guess some people don't think before they speak and think only their opinions matter but every fan is different and his thoughts and feelings around Liverpool should be listened to but only if there is sense in the argument.

LFC420


08 Apr 2013 12:29:01
I doubt Liverpool can attract new supporters as their own and many supporters are still going through emotions tourture.


Come on then mate? Daddy big bolox answer back to the comments then? The only thing that's been more negative is the wage bill and Whiney "persons" like you

London red


Football is based on trophies you plank


 

 

08 Apr 2013 10:22:27
Liverpool job is too big for any manager forget Rodgers.

Sacking Rodgers is not the answer unless Fsg appoint top manager like Mourinho or ancelloti, but sacking Rodgers and appointing another young or midtable manager is not going to solve our problems instead will increase.

Reality is Liverpool are way behind and won't win league titles or get top4 for few years and that's the FACT.

Teams like united or city or chelsea or arsenal have got experience or owners that can do anything I repeat anything to get that top4 compare to us and that makes life difficult for us.


Although I agree with most of what you say, please check the dictionary on the meaning of the word 'Fact'. Just because you write it in capitals does not mean that something will come true. Next time, instead of writing FACT, please insert OPINION.


Don't worry nick. its just a bitter or a Manchester United who thinks he is smart.

Malak


 

 

08 Apr 2013 09:46:22
Sometimes I think this page should be shut down for a few days every time we don't get 3 points - the way some of our fans talk about their own team is an unjustified disgrace and makes me think what was once the best fan base in the world now barely deserves a place to air it's views.


08 Apr 2013 10:55:46
Truth is fans are tired of mediocrity not only in this site but even at anfied atmosphere says everything!

You can shut the site, you can call posters negative or moaners etc but you can't change the truth or reality, Liverpool football club who are one of the biggest club, most decorated club, most supported club and very famouse are struggling for more then 23 years, fans have supported Liverpool and made anfield bounce week and week out dispite broken promises and very little success, now fans have lost faith on a club that has always hurted its fans emotions, younger fans are tired of saying next season because fans have been saying for 23 years.

Now things are going worst both ways as Liverpool is falling every year Atmosphere is getting effect every year, time is not far away before Liverpool become midtable team or should I say Liverpool is already a midtable team and some fans are getting hard to accept it so they are called negative or moaners etc! {Ed001's Note - nothing to do with that, it is everything to do with the modern mentality of 'I must have everything I want now or I will whine and moan like a little bitch'. United went for a long time without winning the league, even getting relegated during that period, and their fans stayed behind them. Back then, it was about supporting your team through thick and thin and singing and cheering for them. Now it has all changed, support is dead, it is just about glory now and not having to wait for tomorrow.}


You are the disgrace! Supporters are entitled to their opinion and just because it's not what you like to hear it doesn't take away from our great fan base!


08 Apr 2013 11:25:36
thats really sad ed1. I but really understand each word you say.

Malak


08 Apr 2013 11:27:23
Ed1 mate not only fans but the game has changed, Kenny won a cup and took us to final but was sacked and werner saying cups are not important as top4.

Ed1 as your more older and know a lot of things, be honest do you think fergie is the reason for success or Liverpool and everton implode and he was at the right place, right time to take advantage, since kenny resigned and souness took over Liverpool implode instead of fergie doing anything speciall to challeng a very tough Liverpool or everton side, sry for my english but I always chat with dad about how fergie succeded. {Ed001's Note - bit of both, as these things always are, you have to have a bit of luck to be in the right place at the right time, but it takes ability to exploit the luck.}


Our support is great? Every home game they ask for playlists and after yesterdays lack of support the first song they should play is the specials ghost town, because up until around the hour mark the crowd were dead, the truth hurts so now will come the abuse.

always a red


To the guy above me I completely agree every fan is entitled to their opinion but what is the point of coming on this site and saying Rodgers out who does that help?

wouldnt it be better if said fans gave constructive feedback around why they think he is not good enough, who they think would do a better job and why they think he will along with why are the players rubbish.

it helps no one coming on here saying rodgers isn't good enough and neither is so and so player.

Its a banter page about having some banter and discussion being a complete wet blanket about it all isn't every fans given right as if that's the case don't bother posting as you are just creating more admin for the poor ED's

LFC420


If I'm a disgrace at least I'll put my name to it.

Btw, for anyone that cares, I'm 21 years old and have never seen Liverpool win the title (obviously). I recon most of you are twice my age and have enjoyed 3 times the success with Liverpool that I have. And yet you are unwilling to give a manager time to actually make a team, allow any mistakes whatsoever and demand wins every single week or else all our players and manager are rubbish and should be binned? Sad


Bang on Always Red and when you say it the-criticise means your no fan merchants come out.
I said other week to borrow The people Utd have called in re. Acoustics and got abuse. It was a desperate plea to try and understand why one of worlds most famous supporters and terraces no longer backs the side when they most need it. And I never thought the days would come when loads by me don't bother with Ynwa at start of games anymore!


08 Apr 2013 16:58:21
samsam9000 nope your not a true Liverpool fan your more worried about rodgers then Liverpool, atleast be honest for once.


 

 

08 Apr 2013 09:07:36
Do we fans have become Roman Abramovich? Asking for Manager's head after one season and expecting instant success. Clearly, we have played better football than I can remember in a decade. And please, before some Rafa lovers start talking about Istanbul and 2nd place finish, there is a stark contrast between that team and current one. Alonso, Masch, Torres, Luis garcia, younger Gerrard, Arbeloa etc. Those times didn't had super rich Man City and CL qualified Tottenham!

BR inherited a team with zero confidence, ageing players on high wages, younger inconsistent players with ridiculous price tags and 8th place. In one season which was mostly played with one striker short, one striker injured, trying 17 years old youngster on wing, last year's LFC Player of the year under performing, 34 year old legend sorting out defenses-- I think he has been terrific considering just before West Brom game at home we were optimistic about CL place.

So called Fans having a habit of moaning say we have not beaten side above us but on a positive note we have not been beaten hands down either. Either we deserved to win or draw except a couple of matches. People who slag BR off saying he is inexperienced and LFC job has come too soon for him, I will say considering these deficiencies he has been fantastic.

Now with a full season under his belt I am fully optimistic that we will be challenging out for a lot more come May 2014. He identified in half a season what was required and sorted it in January window so clearly with full season he knows what is required to challenge among top teams.

Lets be fair and reasonable otherwise we are all Roman Abramovich!

Indian with Red Heart.


08 Apr 2013 09:35:47
Some here thinks. only Liverpool are going to improve from year to year.
spurs, everton arsenal city, chelsea and UTD will all make masive imporvment next year.
Arsenal wil psend atleast 70 mill close to next year.
can see. gotze and reus or leondawaski joinng them.
spurs will also purchase some decent products.
apart from everton who actually don't have money. rest all will make their club stronger.

and then?

dude. opportunites comes very rare. you got to take it. rather than playing the waiting game.


Seriously man do you actually think brendan is better RAFA. BRING RAFA BACK PLEASE

Ahmed {Ed023's Note - Oh and go back again? Will he want another 5 years?}


08 Apr 2013 09:42:13
You are delued.
Roman and chelsea re running the club with the profit they make.
he is going to pump anoother 100 mill this summer.
Liverpool will not even make it close to them.
they have finished so called transition in one year with keeping CL in tact.
pls don't compare us with him.
he cannot take defete. simple. he is obssessed with victories and titles. and that's the reason he want the best with him.


08 Apr 2013 09:42:30
harry its obvious its you with no name. no body cares or reads yourBS.

Malak


08 Apr 2013 09:43:25
goetze and reus joining arsenal?

Haha, joke of the day. I needed that!

Malak


08 Apr 2013 10:05:38
If we don't get top4 next season then what will you say? Let's be honest here for a second Rodgers has spent enough money compare to a lot of clubs and we are no where near top4.

Next season is going to get even harder for us to break in to top4 because I can't see Liverpool dispatching any top club to get that 4th place!


Rodgers has spent enough money! Even if I accept your reason can you shed some light on Liverpool's Rank & performances post January Window?

1) I am sure it will be touch and go for 4th place if not better.

2)We are 2nd in goal scoring charts.

3) We have humbled few teams in bottom half like never before which was nemesis of our past.

4) Our shots on and off target have been way more than any other team.

5) We have EPL leading goal scorer on board.

Imagine you replace Hendo ( not to undermine Hendo's efforts) with another Coutinho in AM and we make a big leap. Another 4-5 players of such mould and I can see a solid season next year.

Believe me, this is not delusion. I can see way more positives than negatives around because my life is happier and I enjoy 4 seasons in a year!

Indian with Red Heart


Malak - be fair, I might read it if I could see where sentences were meant to start and finish


Malak, he said he could see it! He didn't say it would happen! Yes I agree its a stupid quote but its just as stupid to say cavani, eriksen, alderweireld, mertens etc etc


08 Apr 2013 11:42:49
Haha another poster saying Liverpool will get top4 next year, what can you repeat again it will be touch and go its embarrassing mate your leaving in a world of dreams rather then reality.


08 Apr 2013 12:14:55
i never said nothing about cavani or these unrealistic names. I am so realistic that I even see difficulties in us signing the likes of Dejan Lovren or Christian Eriksen and get abused for it, they are not out of our price range or wage bill and play for clubs in weaker leagues. But I know they will have other clubs to choose from and might go elsewhere.

Anyone who can see arsenal signing both reus and geotze doesn't deserve to be called a football supporter because he knows sooooooo little about it and understands even less about it.
Reus and Goetze will mean arsenal will spend over £ 35 million in each player! THEY NEVER DO THAT (suddenly wenger will break arsenals transfer record not once but 3-4 times in the same season. The arsenal fans have gone insane since ed002 stopped providing news to them. Didn't you know? arsenal has already signed Goetze even though he said United is his prefered destination if he was to move (He is also an arsenal supporter) how about that? an arsenal supporter prefers to move to united!

go and see the rumours there.
They have already signed Jovetic and Goetze.
Arsenal fans in genreal are more deluded than the Liverpool ones. But the worst of the lot is the Spuds.

Malak


08 Apr 2013 11:42:49

To the poster: I may be living in world of dreams than reality but at least in a world where people call me by name. Have you got b***s to tell me which club you support! because then I can appropriately and accurately tell you how close we got stuffing your team this season only.

Get your head out of the place where sun does not shine.

Indian with Red Heart


 

 

08 Apr 2013 09:04:49
Pretty simple logic.
Mankark suarez. and that's it. we are screwed actually.
90% of our attacks or goal threts have been thorugh either him or gerrard.
since gerrard plays deep. you just need to mark of suarez. take his confidence out pretty early. then you are screwed.

look barca.
ac milan. man marked messi.
messi dropped deep. making way to pedro and sanchez and villa to hit up.
scored 4 against a team who came to park the bus.


And in what games has this happened? As another poster wrote, he managed to nutmeg half of West Hams back 8 yesterday and tore them inside out still.


 

 

08 Apr 2013 09:02:43
I love Liverpool

Alves


I love Liverpool too

cozinoz


 

 

08 Apr 2013 08:40:08
fsg want a young manager people will say its a bit of a risk but come on bring in jamie carragher.
dont give me this no experience what has brendan rodgers got in top flight none. time for some forward thinking. them that think the club has gone forward this year is way of were would be if brendan had to deal with what kenny had last year no Gerrard for about half the season, no Lucas for half the season and Suarez missing for 10 games in a row I think we would be setting pretty with the bottom clubs now


Even if he wanted the job and we wanted to give it to him and dump Rogders, has he actually completely finished the coaching badges needed to be a PL manager?


You ask for 'forward thinking' while suggesting we sack yet another manager.
Here is a radical approach. how about a platform of stabity to take the club forward? I would have no issue of carra taking on a coaching role, however I believe he is sky bound.
Paul Mc


Can't do that though see where your coming from. Get Carra on his coaching staff though to kick them up b#^}]y apses when required!-Whilst learning job along the way. I see it as a MUST, A real missed opportunity if we do not!
I think A manager must be strong enough sometime at LFC to bring back likes of Aldo/Thommo into fold to let these lot knows exactly what playing for LFC means to its fans and people. Whilst offering a wealth of experience. they've had the pressure at LFC


 

 

08 Apr 2013 08:24:35
A few thoughts.
Im sick of people saying that this season is an improvement on last when it is quite obviously not. yes the football is easier on the eye, yes I can just about see what the manager is trying to do and yes I quite like the guy but last season we won a trophy and got to a final of another. This season will be remembered for. errrrrr. Suarez?
LUCAS, I don't see what you all do and never really have. He was playing well up untill his injury and I will judge him more next season but this season he has looked poor. Please help me as he loses possession high up the pitch, gives away silly fouls, at times in dangerous areas, will pull out of tackles etc etc. His attitude is top class though but there are better players out there for his position. Mascherano was never replaced in that side and that is what we need.


08 Apr 2013 08:52:54
Yes. good point. He has looked a bit shaky. Probably lack of confidence. But enough quality to protect the back 4.


Last season - 8th place, 52 points. This season - 49 points with 6 games still to play and have scored many more goals.

So this season we will most likely finish higher and with more points. I would explain further, but not being able to see what a good player Lucas is even at his best suggests that actually explaining footballing stuff will be a waste of time


08 Apr 2013 09:29:24
agree samsam

Malak


This season- no trophies
Last season- 1 trophy.
Isnt football based on trophies?
Please explain the Lucas situation oh knowledgable one.


Lucas, he's an onion and always has been, oh but wait he's brazillian, so what!


Please explain samsam everything positive about Lucas to me, and as already stated football is based on trophies that you win and last season we did exactly that, this season we are nowhere


Solid DM, only one in the squad and one of very few in the league. Pacey, with excellent positional awareness. Sometimes clumsy/cynical in the challenge but cuts up play very well and rarely fouls in areas that provide a direct danger from free kicks. Can drop back to effectively support the back line as one of them at any time. Big character, influential on the field and seemingly well liked by his colleagues beyond the average. Understands a pass and move system well, although his ability to read the passes breaks down when he gets into unfamiliar territory too far forward. Even with 2 bad injuries in two years, he is brave and committed in challenges and when challenging. Enough for you to be getting on with?


Lucas is a bit like Scott Parker from a couple years back. Neat and tidy, good at protecting the back 4, average in possession. Does a job and is a valuable squad player but won't set the world alight.

HB


You forgot- loses the ball (loads) backs out of challenges when they there to be won, gives away silly fouls, at times in nightmarish positions. He is in the side because we have no one else. No where near the world class defensive midfielder which you lot paint him out to be, and him took him over 100 games to find some form.


He's a bit slower since injury and its telling sadly


 

 

08 Apr 2013 08:15:37
The problem BR had was he does not have game changers in the Bench.
someonw who can comes at 60th min. to change the dimension of the game. break the deadlock.
started with countinho. probably the last player who can actually beat a man and dribble.
we lack top quality bench.
we have pretty average midfielders who cannot come out and score nor press up.

If suarez or Liverpool fails to score before 45 mts.
Then its a long boring day of football ahead.
we have hardly won trailing or in the scond half. very few games.
and that's the difference between us and UTD.

They have a pretty decent bench.
Alex have maintained 4 strikers through out his tenure without much eggo clash.

they have decent wingers who might not have scored lots of goals. but can be very handy if called up. as a super sub.

we lack pace. on the flanks.

robben. ribery. valencia. lenon. walcot.
downing will not make into top 50.

countinho is very young. and actually with huge responsibility of scoring or assisting in every game.

the difference in second half was we released gerarrd further. to roam and push forward.

and that's where players like alonoso is must.
he release gerrard and all of our attacks comes from him.

we cannot expect west ham to play the way we wanted.
if they park the bus. we need to find a way. and simply. BR don't have a clue on it.

He lacks tactics. he can't read some games or the oppostion teams.
he simply wait for luck to change.

I can harldy reacall. any game in which Liverpool won with his tactical substitutions or with his game changes.

simple logic.

If remains 0-0 in first half.
release gerrard in the second half and press more. more.

I am not negative. but that's truth.
I love my club and I want this club to be in profit. and to be in top3.
But I can't simply support all the nonsense happening on the pitch.


Your answer to the problem yesterday is the same as what you said Rodgers did yesterday - if 0-0, release Gerrard further forward in the second half. So why slate him for his tactics and then say he should have done what he did actually do?!? Doesn't make sense.
And for you to say that Couthinho is 'probably the last player who can actually beat a man and dribble' proves that your knowledge of football is very limited.

Jam.


08 Apr 2013 09:39:47
common mate.
read my post carefully. what we lack is the impact players. two players who can come and change the game. impact, dynamics. shape of the game.
what else BR is aware apart from releasing gerrard?.
None of his subs has till payed any divident?
and reagrding dribbling. I have only seen suarez and countinho passing twom players with their feet. not with pace.
you have any better sugestion?
downing on the flanks. or hendo as ACM?


 

 

08 Apr 2013 07:30:27
i think everyone should just calm down, yes when we consider we were playing WH we anted all 3 points, but what do you do when all WH wanted to do is crowd out their penalty area,

a good defensive tactic but they didn't play football,

you can't play your style of play and make those interceptions in the opposition box if the team you are playing is not willing to play, all they wanted to do was defend.

our style of play is based around movement of the ball which causes gaps in the opposition team which we try and play into,

when teams play the way WH did yesterday it made it almost impossible.

yes we need a plan B but just because we don't win every game we play doesn't mean we play bad.

Suarez needs some time to rest and Sturridge needs some time to get back into form.


Crowding the box has worked against better teams than us


Sickve saying its up to the attacking team to find solutions. Defendings part of the game. If you cannot find solutions either players aren't good or imaginative enough or tactics are wrong or Both. Simple


So in your view mate, defending should never ever work? Tell that to Chelsea


Didn't say that about defending Mr. All knowing (probably never goes!) West Ham are hardly the Worlds pinnacle of Top Defensive players. When you've watched Football as long as me you'll realise Great Lfc, Arsenal, Utd sides faced or face teams parking the bus EVERY week!Are you seriously comparing West Hams defenders with Chavskis that ok-sneaked Euro Cup


 

 

08 Apr 2013 06:22:57
Love all the posts about Benitez, the man is not a good manager anymore and would probably be the ironic nail driven into our coffin.

Why don't you call kenny up and ask if he will be a player manager seeing as you are so quick to dismiss rogers in his first, disapointing but fairly successful season.

Noshbag


08 Apr 2013 08:59:56
Dude. no one actually have any issues with BR. he is a pretty decent manager. and we are ready for giving him enough time.
But let's be honest. you actually think he is going to take us to the level of UTD, barca, Madrid, Bayern, Chelsea?
dont think so.
With BR. we can just compete with spurs, arsenal and everton.
thats it. Apart from Countinho his signings has been shocking.
Some, or most of his team selections has been shocking which shows the lack of experience.

Dont understand does he actually study the opposition before a match?


 

 

08 Apr 2013 05:39:44
The problem in today's world is that nobody gives people time to achieve things. Where would fergie be now if Manchester United didn't give him time?

Ack17


Not that again!

The Irish Rover


08 Apr 2013 09:01:30
Where UTD was not in CL. when fergie took over.
Liverpool are not asking for Title.
But after spending enormous money if you can't get top 4. you are actually pretty average.
simple.


It's true though ^^^^^ people are so inpatient it's unbelieveable if given the time I think you Brendan haters will be eating your own words. let's see what he does in the summer I think a AM or alonso to realease gerrard and two centre backs is a must hope we keep pepe seems to be hitting some form with some outstanding saves this past few weeks


The simple fact is that if Rodgers does not get Liverpool into a top 4 spot at the end of next season then I would expect him to be sacked. He is not going to get 4-6 seasons to get it right. Not with the amount of money being spent and also being lost by not being in the Champions League.

The Irish Rover


If SAF had £60m to spend back then or the equivalent of that amount at that time (approx £24m), then I would expect at least a top four finish. Instead SAF had spent around what BR has spent this summer over a period of around eight years.

Disney! {Ed023's Note - Someone might back me up here but Fergie spent loads when he first took over United}


08 Apr 2013 10:41:26
that is rubbish disney

Kagawa and van persie alone cost all our net spending this year!
You know what wages are yes?

Malak


Ed023, SAF didn't spend a bean when he took over. Ron Atkinson signed O'Brien for £500k.

In SAF's second season he signed Viv Anderson for £250k, McClair for £850k & Bruce for £825k.

In his 3rd season he spent £3.5m, 4th season he spend £6.9m, 5th he spent £2.2m, 6th season he spent £2.5m, 7th season he spent £2.3m.

Then we won the league and it all fell in place from there. These are all gross amounts, not net.

Disney! {Ed001's Note - you do realise that, for the time, McClair and Bruce were big money signings don't you? Teams weren't spending millions each year, it wasn't like it is now, I can still remember how big a deal those two were, because they were such big money. You are dreaming (as usual) if you think Fergie didn't spend comparatively big, just like he did at Aberdeen, when he took over a newly cash rich club benefiting from the North Sea finds. By the way McClair cost United over a million, not 850k, as was clearly posted in Celtic's accounts. I don't know why you have to argue, it really doesn't matter that Fergie spent money, what matters is that he spent it well, in the main, and won trophies, eventually, and is still winning trophies now.}


His name is disney! what do expect ed?
he lives in a fantasy world.

i remember for 25 years ago (when still living in egypt)i could buy a house for 5000. now the same house costs 500 000.

Malak


Ed001, no one's arguing here mate. Just having a discussion. Bruce and McClair were biggish signings agreed, but in the very same year Liverpool spent more than them two combined on Peter Beardsley (£1.9m). Then the summer after spent £2.8m on Ian Rush alone. So yes Bruce and McClair were biggish signings, but nowhere near the scale of what Liverpool were spending on players when SAF took over at United.

My main point was BR in his first Liverpool season has had a lot to spend so IMO it's understandable for some Liverpool fans to expect a top four finish. I would expect him to be closer than he is after spending what he has in his first season. Just my opinion.

Disney! {Ed001's Note - and my point was that Fergie also spent comparatively big and took United further down the table initially, so, by your own logic, it would be stupid to expect anything yet. Liverpool are in that same position as United when Fergie took over, spending big money but not as much as the teams that are at the top. It will take time to build, just like it did there.}


08 Apr 2013 11:44:22
disney.

Vanpersie costs united around £ 73 million pounds with the 4 year contract he signed.

do the math yourself. if you can ofcourse.

Malak


Ed001, fair play, but do you think BR will be given time? I think he will get one more season but that will be it unless he secures 4th spot. Would you agree with that?

Disney! {Ed001's Note - it depends, I don't think it is that simple. The owners want to see progress, but only they can define how it is judged. I think he will still be in charge when we start next season, I would never look further ahead than that.}


Malak, sorry but not sure what you are getting at mate. You would be foolish to believe RvP is getting anywhere near £250k a week at Manchester United.

So by your reckoning Joe Allen cost £30m, Borini £21m, Carroll £56m, Sturridge £35m, Downing £39m, Henderson £29m etc etc. Again, i'm unsure what you are getting at.

Disney!


Ed001, I think I read somewhere that you think Suarez will stay, that will be a massive boost for Liverpool no doubt, but what do you see happening at Arsenal, Spurs & Chelsea? Chelsea will certainly strengthen, will Spurs sell Bale? Will Arsenal finally have cash to spend? They will certainly have plenty of cash when the Russian takes over. Do you think this was Liverpool's best chance at a top four spot?

Disney! {Ed001's Note - Chelsea will spend big, I expect a big name striker and probably defensive reinforcements too. Spurs will always be limited by Levy's desire to pay as little as possible, he had options in January, but he refused to spend the money in the hope of picking up another VDV bargain. Mind, Champions League qualification will loosen the purse strings a bit! I still don't expect them to really push the boat out though, just a forward, defender to replace Gallas and left back I am expecting. Arsenal is likely to be having a huge change, not just on the pitch either, coaching staff are not sure of their jobs right now. I think Wenger might finally move on as well, for a fresh challenge. No, I don't think this was Liverpool's best chance of the top 4, as our youth academy bears fruit we should get stronger. That will take years though.}


Ed001, United, City and two of Chelsea/Spurs/Arsenal will need to do better in the UCL this coming season or Germany or Spain will get the 4th UCL spot in future. I think anything less than two English clubs getting to the semis will not be enough. With Dortmund, Bayern, Barcelona & RM as strong as ever it could be only a matter of time before we get just three UCL spots. Could that then lead to the start of a breakaway pan?

Disney! {Ed001's Note - I think the breakaway is only a matter of time anyway. City's backing of the NextGen series was just the first step in my opinion.}


Out of interest Ed001, how do you see the possibility of a big Bale bid changing that field? Will only Spurs be affected or will it spark greater activity in some of their rivals e. g. Chelsea as well? {Ed001's Note - hard to say, I am not convinced Spurs would be willing to sell, so it would come down to him wanting out. Last time there was interest in him, he was not interested in the move, he was happy to stay at Spurs. On that basis, I can't see them selling him yet.}


Malak

How much did Andy Caroll cost at £36m plus £80k per week for 4/5 years? Can you work that out?

Not sure what your point is above.

HB


 

 

08 Apr 2013 02:57:50
Who would love a front 4 of Suarez AM coutinho L sturridge R Carroll CF we would have it all skill pace power an some who can head the ball. It enouys me how Rodgers doesn't see this. Carroll's defending corners would be a plus to


Thats fine if you want someone who is slow, takes an age to make a descision, has the touch of a baby elephant, can't dribble, can only use one foot, has a bad attitude and turns up to training drunk.
Andy Carroll is not the answer.


 

 

08 Apr 2013 01:37:56
it's time for a reality check-
1) ok, so we can almost definitely say that 4th place is out of the picture FOR THIS SEASON!
2) No, we may not be back to our best just yet but on the bright side look at all this young talent we have for the near future? Coutinho, sturridge, sterling, suso, borini, allen, HENDERSON etc. All top quality players for the future
3) If we keep our number 7 and with young and talented additions to the squad we'll be flying high next season!
4) Everyone is starting to doubt rodgers, but no-one seems to realise we are in a higher position now than last season. And the recent performances by Liverpool (past few months, excusing today) have been looking bright, so there is hope of champions league football in two seasons time!
5) We still have Carroll to come back too? He may not be our favourite player in the team, but he is still a red at the moment, so cut the whining as atleast it will provide us more striking options!

You see, the future is bright for us! All the people who are doubting us shouldn't be called fans. RELAX! rodgers has been granted time, he is a good manager. everyone has their off days! I'm a proud red no matter what our results are, we just got to believe in our team, as the future is looking so bright for us! Just remember YOU'LL NEVER WALK ALONE as long as you're a red!


 

 

08 Apr 2013 01:28:41
In terms of possession and chances we could've won today. There were unfortunately too many sloppy individual performances - the team is really not helped when we are building a quick counter attack only to have someone play a lazy pass behind a player or lose possession by making a bad choice (Sturridge, Suarez, Johnson, Assaidi, Lucas all culpable today). People have been quick to criticise Rodgers but individuals did not perform to their ability and combined with West Hams 6-at-the-back defence (which started from 1st minute until last) meant a breakthrough was difficult. Higher standard of performance would've won us the game.


Positives:


Coutinho's vision, weight of pass and speed looks better every game

Henderson's work rate was top class

Gerrard played well

Agger was outstanding

another Reina clean sheet


Negatives:


Suarez had a howler and too often tried to take a man instead of passing

Assaidi looks like he will never be good enough

Johnson had yet another poor game

Carragher is quality but too slow for our system, can't play a high enough line and restrict space if he plays as he can't quite get back quick enough

Sturridge took way too long on the ball, disjointed and slowed our attacking down

we drew 0-0


SMc


08 Apr 2013 09:09:56
Henderson's work rate was top class

which match where you watching?
not even one top draw killer pass he made. which would have split the defence.
running through out 90 mts will not make you a top footballer.
an ACM should have the vision or the best eye for the goal and the one in front of you.
he should split defence. with ease.
Jordan henderson Unfortunatly lacks this. simple.


08 Apr 2013 09:47:14
jordan henderson was one of the few players bothered yesterday!

Harry you have 0 clue & knowledge about footbALL.

Iam ofically really sick of you and your posts and will never even bother to read them again!
do you think you are fooling anyone by not signing a name? a 3 year old can spot your rubbish posts on a derby banter page!

Malak


 

 

08 Apr 2013 01:13:13
Rumour has it we have an absolute gem of a player in our little Brazillian - what is it, he's been involved in a goal every 74 minutes? That's what i'm talking about!


 

 

08 Apr 2013 00:40:10
Rodgers putting Sturridge wide-wrong! And he ain't got alternative plan.
Suarez was being tied up so should've gone wide taking marker with him. With Sturridge down middle, Coutinho behind.
There was no formation, everyone was all over the place Particularily Midfield. Its up to US to break opposition down!
No Leaders on pitch doesn't help. Neither does our lack've a blend, were too lightweight


 

 

08 Apr 2013 00:36:24
Fat Sam and Pulis would have grounds empty if all played their Anti Football, and they today did park the bus. However The sides who have won the title all through years have had to find away around that. Including us in our heyday.
We ain't good enough end of


 

 

08 Apr 2013 00:24:27
I think suarez is an absolute amazing player and I love his attitude towards the game (never gives up) however let's just say he does leave I don't think it's as bad of you think about it with the funds from him we could build a really good team even with out champions league (we got suarez and coutinho) and I do think suarez can be very greedy and wasteful sometimes even though most of the time he does put it away. Basically if he does go it's not the end of the world.

Even though I would love him to stay tbh ed01 or 023 what do you think about him leaving if he does do you think it would be terrible for the club?

London red {Ed001's Note - it really depends on how the funds are spent, I certainly don't think he is the be all and end all of our club at all.}


We will be just fine!
I can't believe how little people understand about football. like this Man rubbishty fool coming on here saying we will challenge relegation without suarez?

I will tell about something that very few on here propably understand, Liverpool has built there tactics around Suarez! The team is built around him every body looks for him.
If he is gone we will play more like a team and maybe just maybe we will see how good a manager BR is. We will be around the same spot we are now 7th.

Malak


Malak you missed the point. If we got rid of suarez with no funds or anything we wouldn't be 7th no way.


 

 

08 Apr 2013 00:16:19
I think we only signed Assaidi last summer so he would improve us in FIFA to be honest! I suppose one cheap FIFA signing every year is acceptable. This summer I want biabiany who is a demon! Doumbia wouldn't get a look in. What do you think the chances are ed?

Johnny. {Ed002's Note - I am not really hip to these games - but some of the other Eds are fans of it. I would go for some big bugger who can kick it in the goal.}


Big bugger is certainly a good description of Doumbia


 

 

08 Apr 2013 00:12:20
What is most distressing is, that even if we won today and all our remaining matches, we still would not get close to the pts Manchester United have already amassed. Drifting like a cork on the ocean (that's the summation of our "so called" progress).


08 Apr 2013 01:07:57
United's presence in the league has been paramount to them winning games. Other teams are so fearful of them that they are almost grateful that united allow them to play against them. They have played so many games this season that they should have lost but haven't because other teams bow down to them. No one can get near them, not just us. Looking at past united teams, this is one of the poorest, and other teams in the league have far superior squads, but United have been in this routine of adding one or two good players to their existing squad, making it easy for them to settle in to the new season. We have had one overhaul after another, and there is a huge amount of pressure for anyone signing for us, because of the expectation on each individual to contribute to bringing us back to where we should be - challenging for the title, and consistently finishing top 4, is huge.

There isn't much we can do about United, we just have to concentrate on winning all the games we can and let them get on with what they do. If we want to win the title, we just have to make sure we win more games than all the other team in the league. We should be making teams fearful of us the way United do. Regardless of what other team's supporters say about LFC, we are a force, which is why other teams play their arses off when they come to Anfield. Difference is though, no one treats us like it's a foregone conclusion that we will win the EPL title.

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08 Apr 2013 00:07:37
Well, King Kenny gave us a trophy (league cup) and at least admission into the Europa League. what will BR give us.


He also gave us: Carroll 35m
Downing 20m
Hend 20m
Adam 8m

Thanks kenny! You nearly finished the job rafa and Hodgkin started! Bankrupt! But it's all good because he's the king! I'm not as old as you but at least I understand kenny was living in the past. A flat 442 with a big man and wee man up top doesn't work anymore. I've seen premier league years and it worked at reading with shearer and Sutton but the premiership isn't like that anymore. The only team to play a proper 442 are stoke these days. He thought it was the 80's with rush and daglish reborn with Carroll and suarez. He had just been out of the game for too long.

BR is the man to take us forward! Give him a chance please.


08 Apr 2013 01:11:23
A better future for our club? You know what they say, no pain, no gain. Although I want us to be there already, i'm happy with a few not so good, but slowly progressing seasons if it means in a few years time we will be challenging. The future is bright, I think this rebuild will work, look at the positives. West Ham parked the bus today, no disrespect to them though they defended their hearts out. Last season we would have lost that match.


BR will give us his Guru Wisdom


Jaysus no one caught that joke BR is no Guru and he's as wise as a sausage!


 

 

 
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