Liverpool Banter Archive February 08 2011
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08 Feb 2011 23:48:34
Pls put on rumours,
alot of people are saying we paid over the odds for carroll, people from the scum mostly.
but do ye remeber united paid around the 17 million mark 4 a lad named tosic? ?then let him go for 5 million. that's madness so don't take any disrespect from them.also the money they paid for barthez and was it 10 million on smalling?
so theres yer come baks mate.
jcred
08 Feb 2011 23:37:06
According the the offical liverpool webisite on the injury and suspension tracker andy carroll is due back in a few weeks so can people stop saying hes out till the end of the season i think the website is more reliable than random people who think they have contacts
DONT MEAN TO SEEM LIKE A N*B
08 Feb 2011 23:31:05
08 Feb 2011 22:44:16
Ed do you think that Pepe Renia will leave in the summer? I personally feel he will leave. {ed's note - I don't know mate, before Roy was sacked I would have put money on him going, now I really don't know.}
So if the worse does happen who would you want as a replacement? Given as a short term option but David De Gea as a long term replacement.
08 Feb 2011 23:31:38
I read the Pepe Reina article and unless i'm missing somthing. He never said HE wanted to leave once.
Looks like SSN or whoever, have been stiring things up again. But if he wants to leave then he can go.
We have owners who will spend what is necessary, to find an able replacement. That is why i'm not frightened anymore. Because NESV will spend good money on replacing whoever wants yo go, and move on.
Blair Mayne YNWA
Couldn't agree more Blair.
Irish Kev.
08 Feb 2011 23:32:12
Any one with me on this.lucas has improved, and we have a back up for him in aurelio.Gerrard is the pivot and we equally have a young back up for him in shelvey but what do we say of meireles, he is excellent at the moment but i think we don't have someone who could fit-in in his freestyle, pass around and attacking midfield role(considering the current formation 3-2-3-2, 3-5-2or5-3-2 we now play).All am saying is that we don't need charlie adams, ever banega or eden hazard.we either go for honda or better bring our AQUA MAN back.he is meireles redefined just didn't get the same roll and expected to xabi alonso which he is not.
08 Feb 2011 22:52:33
I read the Pepe Reina article and unless i'm missing somthing. He never said HE wanted to leave once.
Looks like SSN or whoever, have been stiring things up again. But if he wants to leave then he can go.
We have owners who will spend what is necessary, to find an able replacement. That is why i'm not frightened anymore. Because NESV will spend good money on replacing whoever wants yo go, and move on.
Blair Mayne YNWA
08 Feb 2011 22:44:16
Ed do you think that Pepe Renia will leave in the summer? I personally feel he will leave. {ed's note - I don't know mate, before Roy was sacked I would have put money on him going, now I really don't know.}
08 Feb 2011 22:13:51
I may be shot down by some for this, but. .I know we have just put some big money into two new strikers which was definitely needed but i'm really hoping kenny doesn't bury Dave Ngog. I like him, i think he could still be a great option for us at times but kenny doesn't seem to like him.
Just hope we don't get rid of him on the cheap in the summer.
DJ
08 Feb 2011 22:00:39
Alex ferguson would love to sign pepe reina just to get one over king kenny after alan shearer turned him down to play for a small team like blackburn just to play under kenny because back then what had he done nothing bet it still smarting over that one but in kenny we trust.
08 Feb 2011 21:55:35
I think David Moores should donate some of his millions to Liverpool to help regenerate anfield stadium plus surrounding area.
Obviously he could not do this with H and G because they would have pocketed it. The new owners seem real deal so it could be good opportunity to redeem himself to fans.
What do you think Ed.
Big Steve {ed's note - I think there is more chance of me winning multiple lottery rollovers amounting to the £86m he pocketed from the sale of the club than there is of the spoilt little [censored] putting his hand in his pocket.}
08 Feb 2011 21:36:01
Ed's note - I have to be honest, I really hope we are not going to look at Young in the summer, there are far better players out there.}
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That's it then ed - Young is a certainty to join now, just like Suarez and Carroll, who you didn't want to sign! You need to be saying things like "I hope we don't sign Llorente and Aguero" - maybe then we will - LIVERPRES {ed's note - I know, I know, I have just jinxed it!}
08 Feb 2011 21:21:51
I don't know why everyone is so worried my granny could be liverpools keeper, are defence is that good at the moment. stoke had 1 shot on goal and i can't even remember chelsea having one. just give reina a stool, newspaper and a pipe.
08 Feb 2011 21:18:54
Why is everyone saying andy carroll is the next sherea (cant spell) he isn't he is nothing like how shearea was when he played ed who would you compare him to? {ed's note - no idea mate, I don't really do the comparison thing.}
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I would have to say Andy Carroll is similar to that player who used to play for Newcastle. He had long hair, was about 6 foot 3 and was about 22 years old. Can't remember where he went or what his name was.
08 Feb 2011 21:16:11
In everyone's opinion, are Scottish managers better than English managers? When you take into consideration, the size of each country that produces them? Just something to discuss.
08 Feb 2011 21:05:29
My Friend work in Liverpool FC bar and over hear a conversation from owner Henry and other Directors that they might bring in couple of Amerian and Mexcian Players in during summer and will fund Ken to bring in Right Winger, left back, centre back one more forward. IF there is cash left maybe Left Winger. But Damien will incharge of bring those player in - Brighest Young Talents - One of the director mention Michael Bradley to replace Steven as a long term
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I am not so sure about this post. As an American I can comfortably say that none of our players over here are good enough for LFC. Michael Bradley is nothing special. I think it is more likely that we create a North American academy that would hopefully provide us with a couple gems.
08 Feb 2011 20:48:02
Andy Carroll has told close pals that his thigh injury is worse than first thought and will be very lucky to play again this season. FACT And the damage WAS done falling from a stool TWICE while out drinking in Aspers Casino FACT.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . can people stop all the "FACT" crap, rafa's gone, get over it.and carroll will be fit for utd match, he's already back running.
08 Feb 2011 20:49:17
For what its worth i would say carrol is a younger version of duncan ferguson , temperament and all
whiskers
08 Feb 2011 20:42:59
Liverpool Young Dream Team
Cost 270 -300m
Young and Dangerous
Av age under 24
Sellable value
De Gea (10m)
Van der Wiel (15M)
Coentrao (18-20m)
Javi Martinez (15-17m)
Kjaer (15m) - Young Carragher
Subotic (12-15m)
Gerrard - Inspiration Captain Home Grown
Alexis Sanchez (15-20m)
Suarez -
Caroll - Young Alan Shearer
Mata (18-20m)
Jones
Kelly - Home Grown
Taiwo (10m)
Rodwell (20m)
Cahill (15-17m)
Shawcross (12-14m)
Hamsik (20-25m)
Johnson A (15-18m)
Lukaku (15-20m) next Drogba
Muniain (15-20m) Spanish Messi
Hazard (20m) Belgium Messi
Carragher - Backup Defender Home Grown
Wickham (8-10m)
Shelvey
Wilson - Next Alan Hansen
Get rid of the old guards would bring in 120 max
Total spend will be 160 -180m
Reina (20m Man Utd or Arsenal)
Johnson (15-17m to Real Madrid or Barcelona)
Meireles (10-15m)
Agger (5m to Juv)
Aurelio (free)
Cole (5-7m to West Ham if still up)
Pacheco (2-3m)
Jovanovic (2-3m)
Kyrgiakos (free-1m)
Maxi Rodriguez (1-2m)
Kuyt (5-7m)
Lucas (4-6m)
NGog (5-7m swap deal with Taiwo)
Poulsen (2m)
Skrtel (6-8m)
Ayala (1-2m)
Konchesky (1-2m back to Fulham)
El Zhar (free)
Darby (1-1.5m)
Aquilani (7-9m to Juv)
Degen (1-1.5m to any germany side)
Insua (3-5m)
Torres (15m left over)
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Yeah, that's a great idea mate, lets sell the entire team and get young kids in. We could get little jimmy crankie in as the new dalglish! perfect, everyone knows that for every person there is a 'next' one coming through! obvious isn't it. . . . cretin!
milts
08 Feb 2011 20:43:03
Why is everyone saying andy carroll is the next sherea (cant spell) he isn't he is nothing like how shearea was when he played ed who would you compare him to? {ed's note - no idea mate, I don't really do the comparison thing.}
08 Feb 2011 20:32:52
Cut from an earlier post I think every fan should read. .
A look at Lucas' Opta statistics during his 90-minute, plus injury-time, outing against Chelsea demonstrates his improvement. His overall pass completion rate was an incredible 88.89 per cent, 81.82% when in the opponents' half of the field. These figures are very similar to his contribution for the 2010/ 11 campaign to date, with an overall pass completion of 84.02% and 81.08% when in the opponents' section of the field. One goal has been assisted and 14 chances created from a total of 1133 passes.
The obvious argument would be to suggest that the majority of passes have been simple 10-yard side-foots when under no pressure. But there is a skill to decision-making when doing the unsung task. Ask Sergio Busquets. A destructive force has also been added to Lucas' game. Ninety-nine tackles have been made throughout the season at a success rate of 66.67%. Four yellow cards have been collected. The second booking earned in the defeat to Stoke in November was an act of petulance, but also a reflection of new-found aggression. Seven tackles were made against Chelsea. This may not sound a lot, but that is one player recording exactly one third of Liverpool's entire tackle count at Stamford Bridge.
Shmickles
08 Feb 2011 20:31:43
Andy Carroll has told close pals that his thigh injury is worse than first thought and will be very lucky to play again this season. FACT And the damage WAS done falling from a stool TWICE while out drinking in Aspers Casino FACT.
08 Feb 2011 20:26:06
To the tune of Macarena
One Pepe, Two Pepe, Three Pepe Reina,
He comes from Spain and he eats paella,
One Pepe, Two Pepe, Three Pepe Reina,
Hey, Pepe Reina.
08 Feb 2011 20:22:58
08 Feb 2011 18:59:55
Liverpool Young Dream Team
Cost 270 -300m
Young and Dangerous
Av age under 24
Sellable value
De Gea (10m)
Van der Wiel (15M)
Coentrao (18-20m)
Javi Martinez (15-17m)
Kjaer (15m) - Young Carragher
Subotic (12-15m)
Gerrard - Inspiration Captain Home Grown
Alexis Sanchez (15-20m)
Suarez -
Caroll - Young Alan Shearer
Mata (18-20m)
Jones
Kelly - Home Grown
Taiwo (10m)
Rodwell (20m)
Cahill (15-17m)
Shawcross (12-14m)
Hamsik (20-25m)
Johnson A (15-18m)
Lukaku (15-20m) next Drogba
Muniain (15-20m) Spanish Messi
Hazard (20m) Belgium Messi
Carragher - Backup Defender Home Grown
Wickham (8-10m)
Shelvey
Wilson - Next Alan Hansen
Get rid of the old guards would bring in 120 max
Total spend will be 160 -180m
Reina (20m Man Utd or Arsenal)
Johnson (15-17m to Real Madrid or Barcelona)
Meireles (10-15m)
Agger (5m to Juv)
Aurelio (free)
Cole (5-7m to West Ham if still up)
Pacheco (2-3m)
Jovanovic (2-3m)
Kyrgiakos (free-1m)
Maxi Rodriguez (1-2m)
Kuyt (5-7m)
Lucas (4-6m)
NGog (5-7m swap deal with Taiwo)
Poulsen (2m)
Skrtel (6-8m)
Ayala (1-2m)
Konchesky (1-2m back to Fulham)
El Zhar (free)
Darby (1-1.5m)
Aquilani (7-9m to Juv)
Degen (1-1.5m to any germany side)
Insua (3-5m)
Torres (15m left over)
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Why would you get rid of Ayala, Pacheco, Ngog, Lucas, Meireles, Reina, Agger and Maxi & Kuyt all great players and the first four have Bags full of potential!
Makes no sense at all.
Instead buy Hazard, Turan, Coentrao and Banega!
08 Feb 2011 20:22:15
Liverpool Young Dream Team
Cost 270 -300m
Young and Dangerous
Av age under 24
Sellable value
De Gea (10m)
Van der Wiel (15M)
Coentrao (18-20m)
Javi Martinez (15-17m)
Kjaer (15m) - Young Carragher
Subotic (12-15m)
Gerrard - Inspiration Captain Home Grown
Alexis Sanchez (15-20m)
Suarez -
Caroll - Young Alan Shearer
Mata (18-20m)
Jones
Kelly - Home Grown
Taiwo (10m)
Rodwell (20m)
Cahill (15-17m)
Shawcross (12-14m)
Hamsik (20-25m)
Johnson A (15-18m)
Lukaku (15-20m) next Drogba
Muniain (15-20m) Spanish Messi
Hazard (20m) Belgium Messi
Carragher - Backup Defender Home Grown
Wickham (8-10m)
Shelvey
Wilson - Next Alan Hansen
Get rid of the old guards would bring in 120 max
Total spend will be 160 -180m
Reina (20m Man Utd or Arsenal)
Johnson (15-17m to Real Madrid or Barcelona)
Meireles (10-15m)
Agger (5m to Juv)
Aurelio (free)
Cole (5-7m to West Ham if still up)
Pacheco (2-3m)
Jovanovic (2-3m)
Kyrgiakos (free-1m)
Maxi Rodriguez (1-2m)
Kuyt (5-7m)
Lucas (4-6m)
NGog (5-7m swap deal with Taiwo)
Poulsen (2m)
Skrtel (6-8m)
Ayala (1-2m)
Konchesky (1-2m back to Fulham)
El Zhar (free)
Darby (1-1.5m)
Aquilani (7-9m to Juv)
Degen (1-1.5m to any germany side)
Insua (3-5m)
Torres (15m left over. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . so you want to get rid of 22 players and bring in 19 spending 160ml along the way! good luck with that! !
08 Feb 2011 19:53:12
Thick as thieves us,
We'd stick together for all time.
And we meant it, but it turned out just for a while.
We stole. the friendship that bound us together.
And now we're no longer as thick as thieves us,
We're not as thick as we used to be.
And it wasn't enough,
And now we've gone and spoiled.
And we're no longer as thick as thieves.
The Jam 1979
Fernando Torres 2011
08 Feb 2011 19:39:08
Right Pepe Reina.
I work with a lady who gets to see quite a few Liverpool players on a regular basis. She has been claiming all year (Football season) that Fernando Torres and Pepe Reina would be leaving us as they fancy playing somewhere else. (No other reasons she just says that they fancy a change!) Now i had been laughing at her all season claiming that Torres and Reina love the club and the city and would never leave us but when the stories about Torres came out and Macca posted on here that there was a very good chance he's going i questioned her and she just blatantly turned to me and said he's gone and Pepe will follow at the end of the season! I am now very very worried that we could lose Pepe too i just hope its not to anybody in England!
Hope she's wrong and just got lucky about Torres!
BIG G
YNWA
08 Feb 2011 19:33:59
I have also heard that Torres knee injury is not going to get better but gradually worse and give it a couple of seasons and he will be half the player he currently is - a bit like Owen after he left Liverpool!
I keep hearing that Liverpool's squad is lacking quality in depth (Mark Bright in the NOTW) just one example.
Liverpool went to Stamford Bridge with a team minus Torres who was playing for the opposition, who also had Lampard, Drogba, Anelka, Essien, Cole, Boswinger etc etc. lined-up - yet Liverpool played them off the park!
Remember, this is the Liverpool that included rookie Martin Kelly, Lucas (albeit unfairly under-rated) and most of the rest of the team written off as NOT world class except Gerrard and Reina.
So if Liverpool's squad is NOT good enough - then how can our team play a "world class" team off the park on their own ground.
Obviously one reason is that King Kenny is a master tactician but it could also mean that our squad IS good enough to compete with the best!
A combination of spot-on tactics and very capable players enabled Liverpool to nullify the fearsome threat of Torres, Drogba and Anelka - that is no mean feat - so take no notice of these rubbish journalists who continually dismiss our squad's strength because they have just PROVED otherwise!
08 Feb 2011 19:25:04
Oh how I wish this were true! But I'm afraid Hazard will not be signing for us. He is almost certain to go to Arsenal and if that doesn't happen there are about 4 other teams with a serious interest in the lad who can all offer CL. Would you agree Ed? I've said it before but I'll keep saying it, we have to have realistic (but quality) targets
Santon
Lovren
Pjanic
Honda
Turan
Barrios
So your saying our seasons over. Stop supporting them whats the point nothing to play for.
Get behind the team and you never Know. Kenny will have them playing again
08 Feb 2011 19:24:09
Mr Henry says tonight in the Liverpool echo that he wants to break the curse and win the league. This triggers something in the back of my mind going back to about the time we last won the league, of some one actually putting a curse on Liverpool football club some witch doctor or something. at the time it all sounded a bit far fetched but i would like to know if anybody else remembers anything like this from about that time.By the way i am expecting all the really really clever people coming back at this one with all their smart comments. its just that i remember something to this effect.I think it was all tongue in cheek at the time but who knows, what do you think ed without laughing
08 Feb 2011 19:19:55
My Friend work in Liverpool FC bar and over hear a conversation from owner Henry and other Directors that they might bring in couple of Amerian and Mexcian Players in during summer and will fund Ken to bring in Right Winger, left back, centre back one more forward. IF there is cash left maybe Left Winger. But Damien will incharge of bring those player in - Brighest Young Talents - One of the director mention Michael Bradley to replace Steven as a long term
08 Feb 2011 19:15:18
Nice to see that the chuckle brothers(keys and gray) are back in the media spotlight and what a surprise to see them working for another sky channel.
I don't see any more change of talks**te giving us good publicity then.
Anyone fancy doing a prank call to one of there phone in's?
08 Feb 2011 19:10:32
Ed, I know football is about opinions, & we all seem to have varying opinions but i would just like to say one thing, Kenny knows the team, he knows who he will keep & who he won't but until anything can be done to change that he will be telling every one of them that they are world beaters & will give them 100% backing. So maybe all this talk of players not being good enough should really be left to the man (or men) who will make those changes & he has already told us he will let us know when things are to change.
You never know 100% backing from all the fans for all the players all the time may bring us Champions League football however unlikely it may seem to some.
YNWA 100%
Luigi Riva
08 Feb 2011 19:06:50
Just wondering if anyone new a way or can all on here help to spread to all liverpool forums and about getting a chant for pepe reina at the next game to show our appreciation. He deserves it and I think anfield in full voice could be very persuasive. Just a thought- many thanks in advance.
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I fully agree with this! Why we do not have a chant for pepe like we have for gerrard, carragher and did for Torres is an absolute travesty. . he is at least on level par over the last 4-5 years than all of the above and he has been braking club records for fun!
08 Feb 2011 19:04:23
Just to say about the lucas post you forget this lad is only 24 or round about there has been no defensive midfielder better than him since claud makele the ukelele ha ha , people i don't think understands what he does he breaks everything down completly if the gaffer wants to slow things down hes the man who does it taking longer to get it from front to bk hes young and can only get better when hes learnt his trade yas will be all comparing his skill to the late masch yess i dare to say it
jaybeeee89
08 Feb 2011 19:00:21
The way I see it.
Man utd don't spend ridiculous amounts on players every year like City or Chelsea yet United are always challenging.
Utds players individualy arnt the best in the EPL.
The reason for their success is spirit, fight for the club and fear and respect for their manager.
What's this got to do with Liverpool? Well let me explain.
Dalglish has the power, respect and Fear at Liverpool the same way Fergie has at Utd.
Dalglish and Fergie has so much similarities that creates a winning formula. They are both old school and respected.
Success can be created without the millions Chelsea and Man city spend.
You see team spirit, fight, unity, trust and quality can't be bought but only natured.
Dalglish is the best appointment liverpool have had since erm Dalglish.
I believe Liverpool will challenge for the title as early as next year because for the first time in years, we have a man who can
08 Feb 2011 18:59:55
Liverpool Young Dream Team
Cost 270 -300m
Young and Dangerous
Av age under 24
Sellable value
De Gea (10m)
Van der Wiel (15M)
Coentrao (18-20m)
Javi Martinez (15-17m)
Kjaer (15m) - Young Carragher
Subotic (12-15m)
Gerrard - Inspiration Captain Home Grown
Alexis Sanchez (15-20m)
Suarez -
Caroll - Young Alan Shearer
Mata (18-20m)
Jones
Kelly - Home Grown
Taiwo (10m)
Rodwell (20m)
Cahill (15-17m)
Shawcross (12-14m)
Hamsik (20-25m)
Johnson A (15-18m)
Lukaku (15-20m) next Drogba
Muniain (15-20m) Spanish Messi
Hazard (20m) Belgium Messi
Carragher - Backup Defender Home Grown
Wickham (8-10m)
Shelvey
Wilson - Next Alan Hansen
Get rid of the old guards would bring in 120 max
Total spend will be 160 -180m
Reina (20m Man Utd or Arsenal)
Johnson (15-17m to Real Madrid or Barcelona)
Meireles (10-15m)
Agger (5m to Juv)
Aurelio (free)
Cole (5-7m to West Ham if still up)
Pacheco (2-3m)
Jovanovic (2-3m)
Kyrgiakos (free-1m)
Maxi Rodriguez (1-2m)
Kuyt (5-7m)
Lucas (4-6m)
NGog (5-7m swap deal with Taiwo)
Poulsen (2m)
Skrtel (6-8m)
Ayala (1-2m)
Konchesky (1-2m back to Fulham)
El Zhar (free)
Darby (1-1.5m)
Aquilani (7-9m to Juv)
Degen (1-1.5m to any germany side)
Insua (3-5m)
Torres (15m left over)
08 Feb 2011 18:48:16
One ed yesterday mentioned erikson, now it looks like the erikson rumours are gonna go into overdrive. Earlier another ed, if not the same one mentioned marko marin. So im preparing myself for plenty of marin and erikson rumours. Eds, you brought this upon yourselves lol. . And by the way the mancs posting on our site must be scared s**tless! Its almost as if i can smell their fear! But lets enjoy it. Remember the "we are gonna batter you" and "torres gonna score a hat trick" posts from the plastics? Anfield awaits mancs, Anfield awaits!
Red bl00ded!
08 Feb 2011 18:44:44
All the Reina cr8p is the sun having a good old s**t stir, nothing less!
Stripped out comments used in a journalistic framework to make them as potentially controversial and dramatic as possible. They even put a joke valuation on the player. .
- Arguably the best keeper in the PL
- Certainly one of the best in Europe
+ Over 5 years left
£20m is just laughable, add another £15 and you might get close to a genuine 'value'.
Get real and write something feasible for a change. .
Couple of examples; Shrek to model for Armani in the close season. .
Wenga asks to gets his eyes tested professionally. .
Great site ed, !
Suffolk'in Red
08 Feb 2011 18:27:51
Hi Ed who would you like to sign in the summer? Personally I would love Eden Hazard, Arda Turan, Fabio Coentrao and Javi Martinez!
08 Feb 2011 18:26:20
Pepe Reina. . reported in The Sun.
So he's staying then. . right bring on Wigan Saturday!
08 Feb 2011 18:24:00
Why are people moaning about transfer activity already, the window is not open yet, and Kenny has stated on many times that the board were disappointed not to have got more players in, and he has also said that he expects there to be more big signings. NESV Have shown everyone that they mean business and are in it for the long haul, it was a short window, and a few complications to say the least, we now have one of the best strike forces in the country, just need to add a few more players, and we will be challenging for the tittle, so lets get behind the team, and make Anfield a fortress once again Ross YNWA
08 Feb 2011 18:21:37
GUyz GUyz the season is not over!top 4 we can make it if we've luck, chelsea nd tothenam can not make an unbeaten run!let's wait till d end of d season lik kk say let's take it 1 game at a time if chelsea nd tothenam in they r next game make a draw, we r gona b 4 point behind dem but the problem they hav 1 game in hand! BUT everything is possible in soccer if redknapp is fearing so believe dat we have a chance!I don no y but I'm fearing wigan?! Wat do u think ed?
AmericanLiverpolFan { new ed's note: Take one game at a time }
08 Feb 2011 18:21:07
Hey ed just on all this Reina release clause and you saying there isn't one I tweeted Tony Barret earlier and he had this to say
TonyBarretTimes Tony Barrett
@
@_FlashGordon I know for an absolute categorical fact that there is
any thoughts?
08 Feb 2011 18:15:40
Just wondering if anyone new a way or can all on here help to spread to all liverpool forums and about getting a chant for pepe reina at the next game to show our appreciation. He deserves it and I think anfield in full voice could be very persuasive. Just a thought- many thanks in advance.
08 Feb 2011 18:01:20
Hi ed or anyone who can answer this how long is carroll out for? please answer and post
08 Feb 2011 17:57:38
08 Feb 2011 16:33:57
Seriously guys everyone guessing in what we have to spend in the summer. does no one listen to the dalglish interviews? nesv will invest money on any player if the people is right for for the club. so If we need 5players they will try a sign the right 5players. . people stop guessing and relax
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well said.
If the owners see a player who they think is worth £Xm and they believe the player to be one who has similar re-sale value or will make a profit in the future (i.e. a player like Torres!) then they will buy regardless of the cost. They see the player as an investment who can either bring profit to the club in either through resale, merchandise or success.
There is no pot of money with a set amount to spend. Just a massive pot with very specific criteria required to access it.
{Editor's Note: You are clearly living in some sort of strange fantasy land.}
Ed you are actually the biggest killjoy on this site. Now don't say your being realistic. Kenny himself said that the owners were disappointed that he didn't do more business in jan. They spent close to $100 mil on a player for Boston. They will invest heavily
08 Feb 2011 17:56:59
08 Feb 2011 16:56:46
Liverpool to sign Edin Hazard for a fee of 25m on a five and a half year down
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oh how I wish this were true! But I'm afraid Hazard will not be signing for us. He is almost certain to go to Arsenal and if that doesn't happen there are about 4 other teams with a serious interest in the lad who can all offer CL. Would you agree Ed? I've said it before but I'll keep saying it, we have to have realistic (but quality) targets
Santon
Lovren
Pjanic
Honda
Turan
Barrios
08 Feb 2011 17:53:09
08 Feb 2011 17:18:21
Ed do you rate Alexis Sanchez as a top class Winger / Striker?? ?
LFC 4 Life
{Editor's Note: Possibly too lightweight for the EPL but he will certainly not be moving to Liverpool I am afraid. Manchester United, Inter Milan, Chelsea, Barcelona and, now, Juventus are all keen.}
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i would not say lightweight ED. hes a very stocky tuff strong lad. but yes he won't be joining. hes a manc fan as well i think. Personally hes gonna be the best winger in the EPL if he joins.
Harry5:)YNWA
08 Feb 2011 17:50:49
All this talk of Stevie and Carra bullying. and the reason people want to leave, I have to wonder if there is infact and if, how much truth there is in it. I remember reading an interview with Carra and the question was about personalities and who's feared the most, he said no-one realises how big Pepe is, and how he's probably the person most feared in the team. I can't imagine Pepe being bullied or intimidated by anyone. I can't imagine Kenny standing for it. Sure the guy may want to win things and so he should! but I don't think he'd disrespect the club, players or fans, and I'm sure he can see how things are improving.
Summary:- Its up to the team, the management and fans to show him this club is on the right path and can provide him the medals he craves and deserves, and then I'm sure he'll be around for a long time.
El Diablo!
08 Feb 2011 17:25:37
08 Feb 2011 15:36:44
Wigan
west ham
man utd
sunderland
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man city
arsenal
birmingham
newcastle
fulham
tottenham
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I think we will get 25 points from these matches, which I don't think will get us into forth spot. I reckon forth spot will get about 68 points! Unfortunately.
The Irish Rover
08 Feb 2011 17:18:21
Ed do you rate Alexis Sanchez as a top class Winger / Striker? ?? ?
LFC 4 Life
{Editor's Note: Possibly too lightweight for the EPL but he will certainly not be moving to Liverpool I am afraid. Manchester United, Inter Milan, Chelsea, Barcelona and, now, Juventus are all keen.}
08 Feb 2011 16:56:56
Evening ED having a chat down the pub now wa wondering would you be pleased if we won the UEFA cup and came 5th/ 6th? Or scrapped Uefa and focused on the league and tried to get 4th.
{Editor's Note: There is no reason not to go for fourth and Europa.}
08 Feb 2011 16:56:46
Liverpool to sign Edin Hazard for a fee of 25m on a five and a half year down
LFC 4 Life
08 Feb 2011 16:50:58
08 Feb 2011 15:50:32
08 Feb 2011 14:57:33
It's CITY who will push all the stops out to land REINA with a swap deal of JOE HART & ADAM JOHNSON being the offering
So when Torres was heading out City where offering us £50m and Adam Johnson. . Stop making s**t up its not even nearly true.
Pepe is going nowhere!
from what pepe said i really hope ur right but if we fail for champions league for next season i can see him going, and i wouldn't be surprised if it was to man united if they offer big money, , but i doubt they will offer huge money for him, , i really hope kk is in charge and he can tell reina u will not be moving to man united anywhere else but them. and for no less than 55-60 mill cos if torres can be bought for 50mill then renia is worth more
08 Feb 2011 16:33:57
Seriously guys everyone guessing in what we have to spend in the summer. does no one listen to the dalglish interviews? nesv will invest money on any player if the people is right for for the club. so If we need 5players they will try a sign the right 5players. . people stop guessing and relax
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well said.
If the owners see a player who they think is worth £Xm and they believe the player to be one who has similar re-sale value or will make a profit in the future (i.e. a player like Torres!) then they will buy regardless of the cost. They see the player as an investment who can either bring profit to the club in either through resale, merchandise or success.
There is no pot of money with a set amount to spend. Just a massive pot with very specific criteria required to access it.
{Editor's Note: You are clearly living in some sort of strange fantasy land.}
08 Feb 2011 16:26:57
As far as I can see from interviews etc. Torres left Liverpool for the right reasons, and we have to be honest anybody can leave any club that includes Reina / Agger etc. . its getting crazier every year.
This is for certain though as long as there are legends about like Kenny Liverpool will always be Liverpool. We have taken a battering as a club for years now and we are still standing fighting and battling with passion! If players want to leave Liverpool let them go, Liverpool will live on! Chelski don't have that and City don't have that!
YNWA jns
08 Feb 2011 16:24:51
Just to remind everyone that the financal year is april to april so don't get too carried away with what we've spent and what we've got. As April it will all start again and that money that has beed raised or lost untill then will be paid to the NESV(FSG) members .
There will be funds available i'm guessing about £35 mil again so looking at
Ashley young
Charlie Adams
And one other.
This is coming from the £35mil that NESV will put up plus what ever else is generated from sales so i am guessing about another £15 mil So maybe one more from that.
I'm guessing a left back or holding mid.
Have got a question Ed though did NESV pay off all debt within the club or just the bank loan debt? As this effects what can be spent too in the summer.
{Editor's Note: The debt was all cleared but: (a) your assertion about the UK Government's financial year (April) is entirely wrong - nothing to do with club finances or the FFP is tied to the tax year end; (b) there is no £35M - just pure fantasy. The money to be made available by NESV will largely come in the first instance from money generated by the club, which needs to be self-sufficient as we all know. I think if you are expecting NESV to throw enormous sums of their own money in to transfers, you will have a long wait until that happens. I do however have no doubts that they will provided financing themselves as necessary.}
08 Feb 2011 16:17:49
Good post "Bob the Red".
I agree; you can give an interview of 500 words and the media outlet will pick the 20 words they want and run with the story; why - to sell newspapers.
And why should when one of these media sources run a crap story why should the player have to come out and say "the rumours are not true"; they'd spend all their time stating this.
How many players are we linked with; how many did we buy? There was people believing that we was going to sign Wayne Routledge in the January transfer window because it was in the media (you know Wayne who can't get in the Newcastle team and has gone to QPR on loan).
Don't believe all you read and NESV have stated they will try to increase revenue rather than spending their own money; so talk of £70m spend isn't going to happen; unless we sell £50m worth of current players. Remember the debt is nearly all gone but so has Champions League football and the revenue that brings in.
Hoola
08 Feb 2011 16:16:41
Fernando Torres has admitted that Liverpool are a "bigger" club than Chelsea, according to quotes attributed to a Spanish radio station.
Speaking to Cadena Ser, Torres claimed he had lost the enthusiasm to play for Liverpool and had to join Chelsea to avoid a "black" period in his career.
Although the Spaniard did add: "Liverpool will always be very special to me. Because of its history, Liverpool is a bigger club but it's going through a difficult time.
08 Feb 2011 16:08:29
Come on guys. Leave Pepe alone.
You CANNOT translate what was said in Spanish into English and expect it to mean the same thing. Had he have said it in English, even then I would take it to be a misunderstanding as he is not of English mother tongue.
Each culture uses words in a different manner and intend a different meaning.
In Switzerland for example, when something is excellent, the Swiss comment that it was 'ok'. Miserable b**tards . . but that's another topic.
Wait for Pepe to clarify the situation. No need for panic. Please do not believe what you read in the S*n.
If he goes, it'll be his loss. Any fool can see that we'll be challenging for the title next season.
08 Feb 2011 16:01:21
I reckon that reina will go, looking at the interview he had with the spanish radio, he is non commital and doesn't want to fight for the cause, it was me who said torres had to go which was greeted by laughter by the masses but iv seen a different attitude in reina and if like torres he wants to play champions leaugue boo hoo he can go now! ! If he had patience he will be a champion under Kenny but if not asta la vista baby , and I would definately go for stockdale hes a good cat too.
Big Al YNWA (still not taking medication as you asvised when i said torres CAN go) . . .
08 Feb 2011 16:00:08
So when Torres was heading out City where offering us £50m and Adam Johnson. . Stop making s**t up its not even nearly true.
Pepe is going nowhere!
wind your neck in!
didnt say he would go just that city are after him, is that nearly true enough for you?
08 Feb 2011 15:45:55
DORSET RED
make that 12 games 36 pts max 74 pts and add villa to your list
08 Feb 2011 15:36:44
Wigan
west ham
man utd
sunderland
west brom
man city
arsenal
birmingham
newcastle
fulham
tottenham
11 games 33 points available max point total 71
4 tough games DORSET RED
i just looked at this and smiled, 6 weeks ago i could not see us wining any of these games, now i ignor everyone but 4 teams and still think u know what we can win them 4 too. lol aint football great. .
08 Feb 2011 15:35:29
Hi everyone new here just wondering if anyone new how to get games on google chrome also close friend of mine who lives in hong kong told me honda is on his way out in the summer and is hoping to play in the EPL next season
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SO your stating that people in china can't watch football? He never said Honda was from China.
diO
He never said people in China don't/ can't watch football
08 Feb 2011 15:30:47
Hi everyone new here just wondering if anyone new how to get games on google chrome also close friend of mine who lives in hong kong told me honda is on his way out in the summer and is hoping to play in the EPL next season
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SO your stating that people in china can't watch football? He never said Honda was from China.
diO
Exactly, if the news has hit China then i'm sure we would have heard about it here too. also, i think we all knew he wants to play in the EPL a while ago, so what is new about that news?
08 Feb 2011 15:29:29
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08 Feb 2011 15:12:31
Hi everyone new here just wondering if anyone new how to get games on google chrome also close friend of mine who lives in hong kong told me honda is on his way out in the summer and is hoping to play in the EPL next season
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diO
08 Feb 2011 15:08:38
Erikson from ajax is a simeliar player to gerrard, they play the same role.
Gerrard has more power than erikson will ever have, but erikson hardly losses the ball and is pure class and will be a signing we will not regret.
i saw the milan ajax game a few mouths back and he was the best player on the pitch.
we need to get him in soon, because we will not be the only clubs interested.
eds?
{Editor's Note: There is a lot of interest in the player already.}
08 Feb 2011 15:02:37
NPrak, havent you started supporting city yet? You do know they are buying players don't you? It wouldn't be a massive move for you its still in manchetser area, quick, no one will notice if you get off that de-railed band wagon and jump on another.
08 Feb 2011 14:57:09
News just in Liverpool fire kenny because he is s**ep
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News just in, this poster has never been to old trafford and hasn't yet relaised the glory hunting band wagon he jumped on is currently hurtling down the wrong track and heading for sell the best players-vil stopping at not buying any significant players since raonaldo left due to crippling debt.
08 Feb 2011 14:56:31
Pepe to Utd! Don't make me laugh. However, if he WANTS to go, nothing less than £30 million. Bid £8-£10 million for Macgregor from Rangers= good deal.
08 Feb 2011 14:55:50
Hi everyone new here just wondering if anyone new how to get games on google chrome also close friend of mine who lives in hong kong told me honda is on his way out in the summer and is hoping to play in the EPL next season
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Honda is from Japan, not China.
08 Feb 2011 14:55:49
Adam O'K ;) {ed's note - I have to be honest, I really hope we are not going to look at Young in the summer, there are far better players out there.}
Young it is then Ed! Have not caught on yet? Every player you don't like, ends up at Liverpool. It's time for a bit of reverse physcology.
The Irish Rover
08 Feb 2011 14:52:04
I'm going to ask you a question: "HOW MANY EUROPEAN TITLES HAVE YOU GOT!. .
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Notice the non use of a question mark as you need not bother answering as we already know the answer . . . . . . .Not Enough!
Jog on.
08 Feb 2011 14:50:35
And please stop the reina carp now, before you give yourselves a panic attack. If reina does leave for some supernatural reason, it won't be to the mancs and it will/ should be for a fee of £35-40m. Thats what i think he's worth to the team.
Red bl00ded!
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I totally agree with you there, remember how much Buffon cost Juve?(around £30mil) and Reina is a mile better than Buffon ever was, also i think that carp newspaper the moon are manure bias so they are trying to force Reina out to manure and try to unsettle our squad as they see KK working his magic and bringing unity back to Anfield. .Manure are the same as everyone and want the best players, well if i were KK i would never sell Reina, but if Reina insisted on leaving i would tell fergie and his manc spam to h*ck off.
08 Feb 2011 14:47:07
Just listen to what two of your crown jewels have to say about your beloved club:
REINA:
In an interview with The Sun and on Spanish radio station Onda Cero-
Reina has risked the anger of the Kop by doing little to quash the rumours that he may be interested in a move to Old Trafford. Infact he did not rule out a move to United in the near future.
"Yes, well Van der Sar will hang up his gloves in the summer so of course they are looking, " Reina told Spanish radio station Onda Cero.
"I can't do anything. I can't say anything logically as I have a contract with Liverpool.
"Of course one likes to fight for titles and be in a team that does that."TORRES:
to the Spanish radio station Cadena Ser, he says that he moved to Stamford Bridge because he was losing enthusiasm for football at Anfield.
The 26-year-old built on his claims that Chelsea were the right club for him by analysing their status in the English game over the last decade.
Torres continued: "Chelsea are like Manchester United - the strongest over the last 10 years.So that's two of your biggest stars in recent years who maintain that United is a better club than yours. Need I say anything more? LMAO. .wake up you scousers, wake up to whats real and stop dreaming. .
And I'm going to ask you all the same question that I asked a couple of days back: "HOW MANY PREMIER LEAGUE TITLES HAVE YOU GOT?"
-NPrak
The he*kin Mancs are terrified,
How many league titles did you have when we were winning everything. Yes you've done well over the years while we haven't, but I'll say this now, it's all coming to an end for you now. You will never be lucky enough to get all the young players you did when Beckham a co came through. You will probably win the title again this year, but I guarantee this. Liverpool will be back challenging again next season. Having said that we'll win when we meet at Anfield. LFC are on the way back.
YNWA,
Chrust I don't half go on sometimes. .
Sooty
08 Feb 2011 14:46:39
Hi everyone new here just wondering if anyone new how to get games on google chrome also close friend of mine who lives in hong kong told me honda is on his way out in the summer and is hoping to play in the EPL next season
08 Feb 2011 14:38:40
Why does everybody mention get out clauses in their contracts, Pepe signed a six year contract because he was happy, Liverpool would have been insane to add a get out in it, especially 20mill as somebody posted earlier. Why is it goalkeepers are classed as costing less than outfield players, If Torres was worth £50mill then Pepe is worth at least that much, if not more as I think he's gained us more points than Torres. As for signing for Manure, do you really think we'd sell to them, i'd take my season ticket and hand the two halves to Mr Henry myself if we did. Yet again it's the s**tty spam newspaper The S*n trying to make a story were there isn't one. . Tr*ts.
Sooty
08 Feb 2011 14:28:42
Remaining fixtures:
wigan
west ham
man utd
sunderland
west brom
man city
arsenal
birmingham
newcastle
fulham
tottenham
11 games 33 points available max point total 71
4 tough games DORSET RED
08 Feb 2011 14:26:09
Seems we have a lot more Unaaahtid fans spouting their rubbish on here. Methinks they are getting ever-so-slightly scared.
NickS
08 Feb 2011 14:24:40
Simon Says
Well, Baines is really not better than johnson but he is LEFT footed- and thus much more useful as a LEFT back. .
08 Feb 2011 14:25:19
News just in Liverpool fire kenny because he is s**ep
08 Feb 2011 14:24:40
Simon Says
Well, Baines is really not better than johnson but he is LEFT footed- and thus much more useful as a LEFT back. .
08 Feb 2011 14:18:02
Your dead right Prat. Howard Webb said the exact same thing about LFC . . he would never join us either. How many Premier league titles did your lot buy & cheat your way to over the last 20 years.
08 Feb 2011 14:09:22
Just a mention for Lucas. The lad has a heart of gold, years of criticism from fans, including myself, and he never did anything but keep his head down and try his best. Never complaining. He'll never be a world beater but every side needs a honest to god, consistent, team player. His attitude is second to none. From what I've seen in interviews and comments, he seems like a nice & respectable lad.
couldnt agree with you more mate, motm against chelsea in my opinion and hes holding down the no 5 shirt for brazil aswel, who needs mascherano
wudnt you agree ed ? {ed's note - I have a lot of admiration for Lucas, I don't know why he even bothers to try considering the stick he gets. But every game he puts his all in for the club.}
08 Feb 2011 14:08:55
Just listen to what two of your crown jewels have to say about your beloved club:
REINA:
In an interview with The Sun and on Spanish radio station Onda Cero-
Reina has risked the anger of the Kop by doing little to quash the rumours that he may be interested in a move to Old Trafford. Infact he did not rule out a move to United in the near future.
"Yes, well Van der Sar will hang up his gloves in the summer so of course they are looking, " Reina told Spanish radio station Onda Cero.
"I can't do anything. I can't say anything logically as I have a contract with Liverpool.
"Of course one likes to fight for titles and be in a team that does that."TORRES:
to the Spanish radio station Cadena Ser, he says that he moved to Stamford Bridge because he was losing enthusiasm for football at Anfield.
The 26-year-old built on his claims that Chelsea were the right club for him by analysing their status in the English game over the last decade.
Torres continued: "Chelsea are like Manchester United - the strongest over the last 10 years.So that's two of your biggest stars in recent years who maintain that United is a better club than yours. Need I say anything more? LMAO. .wake up you scousers, wake up to whats real and stop dreaming. .
And I'm going to ask you all the same question that I asked a couple of days back: "HOW MANY PREMIER LEAGUE TITLES HAVE YOU GOT?"
-NPrak
08 Feb 2011 14:05:03
Do you know anything about the Christian Eriksen rumors. . i hope we will sign him, he got a huge talent and fits the model from NESV
Niklas K. {ed's note - we have been watching him for a long time, that is all I know.}
is he an 18yr old danish forward? or am i thinkin of sumone else? ed ?
{Editor's Note: He is something like that. Obviously I have no idea what you are thinking though.}
are you telling me the eds are not the oracles they claim to be? my faith is shattered. {ed's note - sorry mate, none of us have ever claimed to be the oracle, some of them are more coracle than oracle.....}
08 Feb 2011 14:03:25
With the new wing back system in place and with the inclusion of carroll an little luis wud this be it ?
pepe
carra skrtel agger
kelly johnson
gerrard lucas meireles
carroll suarez looks good to me an in the summer get in a quality left wing back, move johnson to the right, kelly in the centre instead of skrtel
what do you think ed ? {ed's note - I think we are more likely to get more wide players so that we are not limited to a back 3 only.}
08 Feb 2011 13:55:12
Do you know anything about the Christian Eriksen rumors. . i hope we will sign him, he got a huge talent and fits the model from NESV
Niklas K. {ed's note - we have been watching him for a long time, that is all I know.}
is he an 18yr old danish forward? or am i thinkin of sumone else? ed ?
{Editor's Note: He is something like that. Obviously I have no idea what you are thinking though.}
08 Feb 2011 13:49:18
Hi ed just some info on reina what i've heard.As you said he gave political correct answer's in his interview, i agree!because he would just be watching what he was saying, the team look and are playing much better know, look at chelsea game it was great!I know you can never say never but he will stay.Was told Alex f is just sh*ep stirring, he was at ibrox to watch game, think he is just spouting political carp know as lpool is getting better under kk.he was overheard saying the best way to upset a team is spread as much sh*ep about them, then let the ball roll from there.Think he think's we are all deaf up here, so i would just ignore all the rumours about who if anyone is leaving!Just one more thing can't see sg or jc pushing anyone out of club if anyone is calling the shot's it would be kk.Interested to here what you think ed, many thanks!
08 Feb 2011 13:37:40
"It was very difficult, Liverpool played a good game, with three at the back, " Torres told Chelsea TV. "We were not expecting that and maybe they took advantage of that."
Erm. . .did they honestly not watch the LFC v Stoke match?? ? ?
08 Feb 2011 13:34:44
Just a mention for Lucas. The lad has a heart of gold, years of criticism from fans, including myself, and he never did anything but keep his head down and try his best. Never complaining. He'll never be a world beater but every side needs a honest to god, consistent, team player. His attitude is second to none. From what I've seen in interviews and comments, he seems like a nice & respectable lad.
08 Feb 2011 13:33:29
08 Feb 2011 12:35:24
I would really like to see us sign honda, as well as getting into the japanese market he wouldn't have missed that sitter like maxi
Even Carra wouldn't have missed that sitter! !
08 Feb 2011 13:29:41
ED , do you know any wingers we could make a move for , i know ashley young was mentioned but anybody else to your knowledge ?
{Editor's Note: Marin, Elia, Arda, Drenthe, there are loads out there.}
ED , I know there are a lot out there but realisticly who do you think we could get this summer? {ed's note - it is February, give it time as any player could have a career ending injury in the next few months for instance.}
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Ed are you seriously suggesting that were looking at Drenthe?
The man's useless.
Irish RED {ed's note - the question never asked who we are looking at, just who was available for a move.}
08 Feb 2011 13:27:19
Just a bit more info on Lucas Leiva, I've always liked him and always thought he had great potential. Unfortunately the LFC team in the last couple of years haven't been up to scratch and its hard to blood someone when the team isn't doing well, but everyone forgets his age! He turned 24 on Jan 9th! He's only just turned 24! Most defensive midfielders are far older, it takes time to learn to play the position and to become strong enough to do it! Other clubs will be looking at him and thinking. .wow. .he's good now, how good is he going to be at the age of 26, 27! We have a diamond in Lucas, yes he needs to improve a little, but with KK in charge i'm sure he will come on leaps and bounds. Also remember if we were looking to replace him, we would be looking at 27 / 28 year olds and looking to pay 25 million! For me this kid is the future. . He is exactly what the clubs new philosophy is about, young, with lots of potential! I bet we are getting offers for him of 20+ mill in the next couple of years!
08 Feb 2011 13:19:07
Breaking news:
Manchester City are set to offer Chelsea flop, Fernando Torres, a huge pay day.
Sky Sources report that the Manchester club are willing to offer as much as 10pounds more to the spanish hitman.
Torres has told his current club to consider the offer.
City expect Torres to hand in a written transfer request before the end of the week.
Torres had this to say on the matter:"I would like to play in the Champions league for a Big Club".
"Chelsea will always be beloved to me, but I think City are a team on the way up."
Faizal
08 Feb 2011 13:15:30
ED , do you know any wingers we could make a move for , i know ashley young was mentioned but anybody else to your knowledge ?
{Editor's Note: Marin, Elia, Arda, Drenthe, there are loads out there.}
ED , I know there are a lot out there but realisticly who do you think we could get this summer ? {ed's note - it is February, give it time as any player could have a career ending injury in the next few months for instance.}
08 Feb 2011 13:12:29
another name i just found on caughtoffside.com linked to liverpool is josep ilicic from palermo.?
08 Feb 2011 13:08:28
ED , do you know any wingers we could make a move for , i know ashley young was mentioned but anybody else to your knowledge ?
{Editor's Note: Marin, Elia, Arda, Drenthe, there are loads out there.}
08 Feb 2011 13:06:48
I don't like young either, but it seems to me like we might try to get him. I prefer albrighton, hes a bit too lite but his crossing is great.
Who do you exactly think would be a better choice than young, ed?
Simon Says YNWA
{Editor's Note: Marko Marin would be top of the list for me.}
08 Feb 2011 13:04:31
08 Feb 2011 12:14:16
I would not take too much notice of the rags, any news story is made up of 3 parts, fact, opinion, supposition, read any news story about any article and you will find those 3 parts, so with that reckoning any story about pepe is at worse 33%correct, but it could be 1% fact 90%opinion and 9% supposition, does that make sense ed, ?
{Editor's Note: Not really, but I'll post it anyway.}
Sort of makes sense but why can it only be 33% correct at worst? Why can't it be 90% correct and 1% opinion and 9% supposition?
08 Feb 2011 12:59:28
I have to agree with the ED, I really hope we don't buy Young, there are better wingers around, we do need to buy 2 quality wingers and a creative midfielder and I think some cover at the back, but we also have some good youngsters coming through and good to see Kenny giving them a chance as I think Kelly has been awesome. YNWA Great site ED
08 Feb 2011 12:54:06
We Love our Suarez better than Torres he came from Ajax to Liverpool , He's Continental , He's mental please don't take our Luis away ha ha isn't that boss! Hats off to whoever came up with it sing it loud and proud for our Luis we had the best band ever in the world and we must have the best match songs in the world no- one to touch us we are the Mighty Reds you watch who will want to come here no more jarg signings or second or third rate players we are back , if ANYONE doesn't want to stay here let them go, We want people who want players who will wear the Liverpool badge with pride an passion , A New Chapter has begun with Kenny and the team he has behind him And the owners ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE , Believe! bless ya loads YNWA
08 Feb 2011 12:54:00
I despair at times whenever a player does an interview, especially when they are on International duty without the due supervision from the club.
I despair at the trickery of the media, clever editing of responses, open ended questions that can be taken one of many ways, the truth never allowed to get in the way of the story. I despair at the agents who put the players in positions whereby it is mandatory for them to answer questions.
But most of all i despair at the fans who pick a newspaper up and by the time they've read the headline are already sucked into believing whatever the headline says.
The rules on interviews for fans
1) if it's appeared from the written media, ignore it
2) if it's appeared from foreign written media, ignore it
3) If you actually get to hear the player in a full tv interview say these things, then you can stop and think. But it never appears like this and there is a reason for this.
If you cannot see the wood for the trees and react to sensationalism reporting, i strongly suggest you cover your eyes and not read the crap that is being spouted. By the following day, it's nothing more than chip paper and providing a better service holding your chips, trust me.
And one final thing. Every player at Liverpool should be extremely disappointed about where we are. We should expect them to want to play at the highest level in the biggest competitions and we should expect (demand?) that they show they are unhappy about the situation.
I find nothing wrong if Pepe comes out and say he needs to be playing CL football. He's a winner, we want winners, he has a winning mentality we want players with this mentality.
If we cannot provide the platform of competing for the top honours for the best players we do not deserve the best players and we will lose them and we should be prepared to lose them.
It's been this way for many, many decades. If you want a Winston Bogarde, Michael Owen or Garry Barry style footballer then this club isn't for you.
If you want the club to win things, you must have like minded players. If it goes the other way, you lose the players and go through this 'transition' period of rebuilding.
Pepe Reina is a winner. It's what has made him a stand out top performer and a top quality signing. You cannot expect a player of his quality to sit and be happy in a mid table, Roy Hodgson managed club having their end of season do in January every season surely?
Remember he isn't a loyal, die hard fan that sticks with a club through good and bad, sickness or in health til death do us part. He is a Professional Footballer who has a job for 20 years at most in order to get as much medals and as much money as he can muster.
All we can hope for is that the medals bit comes first.
Bob the Red
08 Feb 2011 12:53:40
WE NEED TO KEEP LUCAS.
Cons:
He may not have Alonso's ability to pass.
He may not have Masch's ability to tackle and cover space.
And when he gets the ball he never gives the impression that somethings gonna happen.
Pros: But he has alot of things going for him in that he's a workhorse. He's superfit and runs endlessy.
He hardly ever gets injured
He has passion for the game and will give 100% whenever he's put out there.
LUCAS IS A SQUAD PLAYER. SOMEONE EVERYTEAM NEEDS IF YOU ARE GOING TO COMPETE IN ALL COMPETITIONS IN A LONG SEASON.
-Yes there are plenty others who may be more creative or better defensively than him in Banega/ Adam etc. And they may go straight into the starting lineup. But we still need lucas as a rotation player in the squad.
YNWA. . Yas
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Agree with this I do think we should keep him but only as a squad player.
I think Lucas knows he isn't the most gifted footballer so he knows all he has going for him is working hard for 90mins.
Lucas would never play for a bigger club than us so he knows he has to give 110% every game.
If he stops giving 110% he's out on his ear cus let's be honest he doesn't offer much else.
LAVERS
08 Feb 2011 12:52:51
People calling pablo of valencia a rw, isnt he a striker primarily? And please stop the reina carp now, before you give yourselves a panic attack. If reina does leave for some supernatural reason, it won't be to the mancs and it will/ should be for a fee of £35-40m. Thats what i think he's worth to the team.
Red bl00ded!
08 Feb 2011 12:52:15
Here are my views :
young , adam , leighton baines (probably not), paco alcacer , christain eriksen and 1 or 2 other big name players!
king kenny to stay on as permanent manager doing a brilliant job.
what do you think ed ?
Adam O'K ;) {ed's note - I have to be honest, I really hope we are not going to look at Young in the summer, there are far better players out there.}
ED , do you not think he could provide the service we need for carroll? if not who would you like to see come in instead ED ?
Adam O'K ;) {ed's note - his final ball is mostly poor, he is very hit and miss, at best. I would prefer to see someone along the lines of Mata myself.}
personally i can't see mata coming! what about arda turan ed ?
Adam O'K ;)
{Editor's Note: Arda will likely be on the market in the summer and Atletico Madrid will certainly be in pole position for his signature if Aguero leaves as expected. Although not a direct replacement, Atletico have made it very clear that they have an interest in the player. LIverpool will need to do some work to bring the player to Anfield - but it remains a possibility.}
08 Feb 2011 12:44:13
I am at the stage now where i am sick of all the bs surrounding our club. If all it takes for this nonsense to stop is Reina leaving then I am all for us taking the money. Granted he is one of the best keepers in the world never mind one of the best we have ever had. If it means not waking up every day of the week and having to hear another unsubstantiated rumour about him leaving then bring it on. I long for th day that we quietly go about our business with no side shows!
YNWA
Bryan
08 Feb 2011 12:37:11
Here are my views :
young , adam , leighton baines (probably not), paco alcacer , christain eriksen and 1 or 2 other big name players!
king kenny to stay on as permanent manager doing a brilliant job.
what do you think ed ?
Adam O'K ;) {ed's note - I have to be honest, I really hope we are not going to look at Young in the summer, there are far better players out there.}
ED , do you not think he could provide the service we need for carroll? if not who would you like to see come in instead ED ?
Adam O'K ;) {ed's note - his final ball is mostly poor, he is very hit and miss, at best. I would prefer to see someone along the lines of Mata myself.}
08 Feb 2011 12:36:57
(One of the lads post statistics about Lucas yesterday and one of the EDDS asked him about the source for those states, so i thought i would post this article in defence of Lucas and the statistics, source is SSN)
*The changing man Lucas Leiva
It was late in the second half at Stamford Bridge and a grimace of personal disgust shot across the face of a mild-mannered Brazilian in a demonstration of personal frustration at surrendering the ball.
A tackle-back and possession was immediately regained in a snapshot of the mindset of Kenny Dalglish's revolution. Amid the focus upon the act of fate which saw £50million striker Fernando Torres making his Chelsea debut against his former club, the man in question was Lucas Leiva. Liverpool's No.21 demonstrated why he has emerged as a lynchpin.
Martin Kelly, Dirk Kuyt, Daniel Agger, Raul Meireles and, of course, Jamie Carragher and Steven Gerrard are to list six names from the 13 heroes for those in red on Sunday, when Torres was brutally outplayed in the wake of what has been labelled an act of treachery. But the transformation of Lucas deserves special mention.
The 2007 arrival from Gremio is often used as a label for the faults in the Liverpool reign of Rafa Benitez; a mistake in the transfer market; a square peg for a round hole. But the former Anfield boss was always rigorous in his defence of a player upon whom he spent £6m and once announced that 'people just don't know how good Lucas is'.
General consensus is that among the wretched 12 months that was 2010 for Liverpool, Lucas was the man who stood out as the club's best player. While team-mates and managers wilted around him, the now-24-year-old showed spirit for the fight as sceptics and opponents circled like vultures.
The man from Dourados, a city in the south west of Brazil, had presumably been hardened by the barrage of negativity he had been forced to shoulder since crossing the Atlantic almost four years earlier. Lucas himself told skysports.com in an interview conducted in March 2010: "I don't know why the criticism started with me, but some people just do not like me."
Lucas arrived at Anfield as an attacking midfielder, who made late runs into the box and essentially represented a Brazilian version of captain Gerrard. But Benitez decided he would be best deployed in the responsible holding role, having never trusted Gerrard to fill such a position. The 2007 Merseyside derby at Goodison Park was famously an illustration as the hot-headed Gerrard was substituted by Benitez in favour of Lucas, who went on to secure a match-winning penalty.
The sale of Xabi Alonso to Real Madrid led to a regular first-team role for Lucas alongside Javier Mascherano, who has since joined Barcelona. However, the arrival of Roy Hodgson in the summer of 2010 seemed set to spell the end of his Liverpool career. He was told he could leave if he wanted and did not seem to feature in his new manager's plans. But the fighting spirit, which is not always evident in South American imports to the Premier League, again shinned and a first-team place was reclaimed.
Hodgson has gone, Lucas remains. He is clearly an integral part of Dalglish's plans, as well as inheriting Brazil's famous No.5 shirt under former Gremio boss Mano Menezes. The transformation from boo-boy to midfield engine room has been remarkable and it now appears that the much-sought-after commodity of time in football was the vital element. Lucas needed to settle, especially after arriving on a foreign continent, just out of his teenage years, and being deployed in a different position to that which earned the Bola de Ouro, the Brazilian Footballer of the Year, in 2006. A look at the Chelsea team-sheet on Sunday provided a perfect example of how difficult it can be for South Americans to find form and avoid injury in the rough and tumble of the Premier League as Ramires was not even named among the substitutes, despite costing three times as much as his compatriot.
There is a need to not to get carried away. The frustrating elements of Lucas' game remain evident; he started slowly against Chelsea; he can get caught in possession; he can give away clumsy free-kicks. But, as demonstrated by his tackling back in a direct duel with Michael Essien, there is the pride in personal performance that is rated so highly by Dalglish and mistakes have significantly decreased in frequency. 13 Premier League points have been collected under Dalglish in the process of close to 400 minutes without conceding a goal.
A look at Lucas' Opta statistics during his 90-minute, plus injury-time, outing against Chelsea demonstrates his improvement. His overall pass completion rate was an incredible 88.89 per cent, 81.82% when in the opponents' half of the field. These figures are very similar to his contribution for the 2010/ 11 campaign to date, with an overall pass completion of 84.02% and 81.08% when in the opponents' section of the field. One goal has been assisted and 14 chances created from a total of 1133 passes.
The obvious argument would be to suggest that the majority of passes have been simple 10-yard side-foots when under no pressure. But there is a skill to decision-making when doing the unsung task. Ask Sergio Busquets. A destructive force has also been added to Lucas' game. Ninety-nine tackles have been made throughout the season at a success rate of 66.67%. Four yellow cards have been collected. The second booking earned in the defeat to Stoke in November was an act of petulance, but also a reflection of new-found aggression. Seven tackles were made against Chelsea. This may not sound a lot, but that is one player recording exactly one third of Liverpool's entire tackle count at Stamford Bridge.
Lucas does not possess the natural pace, power and overall athleticism to dictate midfields, but he is beginning to patrol in front of the defence, whether it be three or two centre-backs, with brilliant effect.
He deserves immense praise amid the clamour for Dalglish to be given a permanent contract and the dissections of Torres' terrible 65-minute Chelsea debut. Lucas embodies what Dalglish seems to be trying to impose upon his team - a personal freedom within a team responsibility*
(In world of football player makes his name not the other way around)
08 Feb 2011 12:35:24
I would really like to see us sign honda, as well as getting into the japanese market he wouldn't have missed that sitter like maxi,
08 Feb 2011 12:35:01
"Come on Red Lenin great comment but
lets not forget Keegan Dalglish and Fowler they deserve a mention also."
I was using them merely as examples. If I lsted everyone I'd be here all day - Robinson, Fairclough, Hunt, etc etc etc . Anyway, Dalglish wasn't a player when he left us (think he may have still been registered as one though)
RED LENIN.
08 Feb 2011 12:27:38
WE NEED TO KEEP LUCAS.
Cons:
He may not have Alonso's ability to pass.
He may not have Masch's ability to tackle and cover space.
And when he gets the ball he never gives the impression that somethings gonna happen.
Pros: But he has alot of things going for him in that he's a workhorse. He's superfit and runs endlessy.
He hardly ever gets injured
He has passion for the game and will give 100% whenever he's put out there.
LUCAS IS A SQUAD PLAYER. SOMEONE EVERYTEAM NEEDS IF YOU ARE GOING TO COMPETE IN ALL COMPETITIONS IN A LONG SEASON.
-Yes there are plenty others who may be more creative or better defensively than him in Banega/ Adam etc. And they may go straight into the starting lineup. But we still need lucas as a rotation player in the squad.
YNWA. . Yas
Its a fair point and a good comment, and if Kenny is picking him to play we have to trust his judgement. Lucas is hardly gonna back down from playing if he is picked. I watched a video in utube "lucas leiva look at me , it mentioned that "the boo's at anfield were the lowest point of his career". He has never gone on strike, never put a transfer request in or spent months injured he just loves playing for Liverpool so show him the support he deserves
L1.
08 Feb 2011 12:21:36
Kenny has the same rare ability to get top quality football and hardwork from average plarers as mourinio. alex and wenger can't do it they rely on having top players available wether it be throught financial means or other aquiring them is essencial however, it is already evident this is not the case with the king we only need to look at the footbaal we are playing and the team which has been available.they do this through promoting tean spirit, loyalty and hard work but anyway my point is when we get our full strenght team fit and ready and we make quality additions in the summer, can you imagine the footy we are going to see at anfeild for this and next season we could win the league and hay the way we are playing now we could manage top four! ! ! ha just think where we were in october! in terms of league position, manager, squad (and spirit) and financially (new owners) we were in turmoil it never fails to amaze me how quickly football can change eh? YNWA
08 Feb 2011 12:14:58
Torres has gone. Many have gone before him - Rush, Owen, Aldridge, Beardsley etc etc.
Rumours that Reina may go. As did Clemence, Grobelaar etc etc.
As Voltaire said "The graveyards of the world are full of indispensible people".
Nothing and no one is irreplacable.
RED LENIN
Come on Red Lenin great comment but
lets not forget Keegan Dalglish and Fowler they deserve a mention also.
L1
08 Feb 2011 12:14:16
I would not take too much notice of the rags, any news story is made up of 3 parts, fact, opinion, supposition, read any news story about any article and you will find those 3 parts, so with that reckoning any story about pepe is at worse 33%correct, but it could be 1% fact 90%opinion and 9% supposition, does that make sense ed, ?
{Editor's Note: Not really, but I'll post it anyway.}
08 Feb 2011 12:07:58
LFC has moved on why is the guy from London giving out statements after statements in regards to his move? Hurt and getting reality hitting him now. Sorry pal it was your decision, live with it now.
Reina to Man U? never in the history of this club will we sell to them. If he wants to go than it's fine there are lots of keepers around and kinny can fix that as well. No one is bigger than the club, we get the right price for him that we move on. Once again the ugly head of the spanish players has clearly indicated that they are not worth signing.
Anyway, we should only hang on to Suso and get the best price when he wants to go as well.
08 Feb 2011 12:06:42
Jack Rodwell
They are the only team that have been rumoured as far as i know, but it would wipe the smile of Fergies face and more importantly the kid can play. It would be a waste of time trying if he hates us passionatly because of playing for Everton ( Not sure of his history and who he supports ).
He was born and lives in southport about 15 miles from Liverpool not sure who he supports.
08 Feb 2011 12:06:12
Pepe Reina is one of the most liked and respected players in the liverpool squad. The bullying talk about stevie and carra has been blown way out of proportion! . .kenny just wouldn't stand for it. .and th story came from the s*n !. .cmon people we should know better then to read or even believe that sh*ep. .he won't leave unless we don't start challenging for honours, get back in the champions league and keep improving the squad which is understandable. .hes worn the captains armband for us this season so have a bit of faith in reina and don't believe the s*n end of !. .great site btw. .YNWA
08 Feb 2011 12:05:01
{Editor's Note: If taking in what the media has to report keeps bringing on these terrible paranoia attacks the answer is to not look at the television or newspaper or listen to the radio.}
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Good point Mr Editor, I can't remember the last time I paid for a paper . The radio is mainly peoples opinion and is turned off as quickly as it is put on sometimes. You have me on Sky Sports as I have to know if things have happened in the world of sport. I mainly go on this site as I have always find it interesting and entertaining. We can all have an opinion of the media and that was just mine.
EST.1892
08 Feb 2011 12:03:28
Everyone must realise that most of the media hate us and are not liking that we are on the up. They loved it when we had H&G owning the club and loved it when Benitez lost the plot and loved it when Roy was in charge. All the other top clubs realise we are on the way up and even though they won't admit it are getting worried about how we are doing things again. We made it easy for everyone to have a go at us but now with Kenny as manager and the new owners running the club we can only see positive things. Everyone of us should have a smile on our faces as every story that comes out in the press just shows how worried everyone is getting.
The media do not like Liverpool now because we tell them nothing? during the transfer window Kenny did not swerve any questions he told them straight and gave nothing away. Thats the way it should be. Dalglish is not just a king on the pitch , he can wipe the floor with any of those desperate journo's aching for any scrap of news.
08 Feb 2011 11:54:32
We will go for adam, baines and a. young in the summer and play a 4-3-3 formation
personally i hope not, i wouldn't mind adam as a squad player, wouldn't mind baines as a left back but we can do better than ashley young for the money it would cost to buy him
7777
08 Feb 2011 11:53:23
2 years ago i predicted lucas would be come as strong a midfielder as roy keane, currently he is well on his way to that
2 years ago the fans were 90/ 10 against lucas, now its prob 75 / 25 for him, he ll keep improving and progressing and by this time next season no one will want him out of the side
08 Feb 2011 11:51:26
Regarding the Lucas debate, I ahve always been a bit of a fence sitter when it comes to our controversial brazillian. At first I lamented his lack of pace and awareness and tendency to give the ball in tricky spots, but, after the first 8 or 10 games I felt he began to adapt and became a solid if unspectacular squad player. Recently, it is undeniable that he has improved and is probably the most improved player in the squad over the psat 3 years. His passing % is frigteningly high, although I accept many of these passes are short, but, whats wrong with that we need a man to link play between the midfield and attack in a tidy and accuarte fashion. Okay he's no alonso and he's never going to hit a sweet 40 yard pass into feet, but how many Aloson's are out there anyway?
You know what I think the fans problem with Lucas is? Its the hype surrounding him before he signed. He aws pitched as a wonder player the future of brazils midefield ( which he may yet become) but we all thought he'd be banging in goals and taking people on doing 3 stepovers anda cruff turn. In reality players like lucas are as important as players like raul mereiles, they just don't attract the same adulation ( becuase we all love goal scorers) I say lay off Lucas, in his position who really is better in the EPL, and I mean significantly better, not equal to . I really don't think you'll come up with many names if your honest.
I can see ( and hope) Lucas becoming an Anfield stalwart and playing for us for 10 years, lesson, don't believe the hype
YNWA Lucas. Viva la revolution, long live the king! !
currently i think de jong is the best defensive midfielder in the country , alex song is slightly better than lucas also and michael essien, chiek tiote possibly also
however that being said yes lucas was expected to be the next gerrard , then the next alonso then the next mascherano, can t we just let him be the one and only lucas leiva.
08 Feb 2011 11:47:29
Oh how SSN tries to run down LFC, "Reina not ruling out Utd move". In the article there is no suggestion from him that he would consider it, he says he wants to challenge for honours, like all players. He was very respectful of Van Der Saar, if Reina can stay at Liverpool until he is 40 and maintain his performance like VDS has I would be very happy.
RedSG
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Everyone must realise that most of the media hate us and are not liking that we are on the up. They loved it when we had H&G owning the club and loved it when Benitez lost the plot and loved it when Roy was in charge. All the other top clubs realise we are on the way up and even though they won't admit it are getting worried about how we are doing things again. We made it easy for everyone to have a go at us but now with Kenny as manager and the new owners running the club we can only see positive things. Everyone of us should have a smile on our faces as every story that comes out in the press just shows how worried everyone is getting.
EST.1892
{Editor's Note: If taking in what the media has to report keeps bringing on these terrible paranoia attacks the answer is to not look at the television or newspaper or listen to the radio.}
08 Feb 2011 11:44:23
Thank God we have Kenny in charge and probably will do in the Summer. Hopefully he'll say to Fergie what Fergie said to us over the Heinze thing, "over my dead body!"
08 Feb 2011 11:43:26
Regarding the Lucas debate, I ahve always been a bit of a fence sitter when it comes to our controversial brazillian. At first I lamented his lack of pace and awareness and tendency to give the ball in tricky spots, but, after the first 8 or 10 games I felt he began to adapt and became a solid if unspectacular squad player. Recently, it is undeniable that he has improved and is probably the most improved player in the squad over the psat 3 years. His passing % is frigteningly high, although I accept many of these passes are short, but, whats wrong with that we need a man to link play between the midfield and attack in a tidy and accuarte fashion. Okay he's no alonso and he's never going to hit a sweet 40 yard pass into feet, but how many Aloson's are out there anyway?
You know what I think the fans problem with Lucas is? Its the hype surrounding him before he signed. He aws pitched as a wonder player the future of brazils midefield ( which he may yet become) but we all thought he'd be banging in goals and taking people on doing 3 stepovers anda cruff turn. In reality players like lucas are as important as players like raul mereiles, they just don't attract the same adulation ( becuase we all love goal scorers) I say lay off Lucas, in his position who really is better in the EPL, and I mean significantly better, not equal to . I really don't think you'll come up with many names if your honest.
I can see ( and hope) Lucas becoming an Anfield stalwart and playing for us for 10 years, lesson, don't believe the hype
YNWA Lucas. Viva la revolution, long live the king! !
08 Feb 2011 11:43:03
How long before carroll is fit i can t wait to see him and suarez in action
{Editor's Note: It'll be a while yet. At least a few weeks.}
08 Feb 2011 11:40:05
Charlie adam is a good squad player that's about it
08 Feb 2011 11:38:52
Just seen that Everton are getting more in Debt and will probably have to sell again. I think we should make a move for Rodwell. Looks a decent player and loads of people rave about him. Thing is does he hate us or would he be brave enough to make the journey over?
EST.1892
{editor: I think that Manchester United will move for Rodwell.}
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They are the only team that have been rumoured as far as i know, but it would wipe the smile of Fergies face and more importantly the kid can play. It would be a waste of time trying if he hates us passionatly because of playing for Everton ( Not sure of his history and who he supports ).
EST.1892
08 Feb 2011 11:36:52
Here we go again sky trying to stir up bollcarp about reina, i can't see reina leaving us in the near future and to the sfut come on lads id say if he wanted to leave barca would be his frist choice,
do you think liverpool would sell to utd after what happened when henize (spelling) wanted to join us
ed can you see any truth in this? i cant
{Editor's Note: It is nothing to do with Sky. Reina was asked some questions and gave politically correct answers to them. Don't read too much in to it.}
08 Feb 2011 11:32:59
For all those getting hot under the collar about the Reina quotes, it's worth bearing in mind who was with him in the room. Yes the comments were slightly more non-committal than i would have expected but he was hardly likely to launch into a speech about the value of loyalty and honouring your contract when his good friend who's just jumped ship is inches away. The full quote, (as translated by Rory Smith) contains an interesting final few words, craftily left out by most news outlets looking for a story - "I would like to challenge for trophies, of course. Champions League is important, BUT NOTHING IS FUNDAMENTAL."
Once you take into context who his fellow interviewee was, i really fail to see how Reina could have answered in a manner that didn't grate with someone, either his friend or the fans.
08 Feb 2011 11:31:57
Oh Well. . If Reina wants to go, Let him go.
And whoever else is considering leaving they should get out before the start of next season.
KENNY MUST HAVE A SQUAD OF PLAYERS WHO WANT TO PLAY FOR LFC.
BRING BACK THE BADGE KISSERS.
Kenny needs to bring the heart and soul back into this team and if it means loading the squad with british players who know what passion is all about then so be it.
No player is bigger than this club.
Anyone else want to leave? Let kenny know early so he can find your replacements.
YNWA. .Yas
08 Feb 2011 11:31:10
Just wanted to say well done to Glen Johnson. He's been superb for us on that left side.
Spriggo
08 Feb 2011 11:24:07
Oh how SSN tries to run down LFC, "Reina not ruling out Utd move". In the article there is no suggestion from him that he would consider it, he says he wants to challenge for honours, like all players. He was very respectful of Van Der Saar, if Reina can stay at Liverpool until he is 40 and maintain his performance like VDS has I would be very happy.
RedSG
08 Feb 2011 11:22:40
. I was one of the first singing Charlie Adams praise on this site when we were first linked with him and people were saying he's not good enough! . .And i really wanted him at Anfield. .However i think with Raul's consistant Improvement and Jojo Shelveys inevitable rise not far away, I fear Charlie Adams time has come and gone! . .I now don't think he is Devensive minded enough unlike our Beloved Xabi. .And i think he likes to get forward to often and too much like Steven and Raul! . . We need a proper Defensive midfielder who can also start attacks with good passing like. . EVER BANEGA, or TIOTE from Newcastle! . . . Really feal sorry for Charlie though!
YNWA
SI
08 Feb 2011 11:13:52
Why your all moaning that reina going to leave iv just read the blog on the liverpool website and was absaloute great recomend you reading it brought a tear to my eyes lol
08 Feb 2011 11:09:45
Just seen that Everton are getting more in Debt and will probably have to sell again. I think we should make a move for Rodwell. Looks a decent player and loads of people rave about him. Thing is does he hate us or would he be brave enough to make the journey over?
EST.1892
{editor: I think that Manchester United will move for Rodwell.}
08 Feb 2011 11:04:48
In response to
"Heard a rumour from a source, who knows a few faces at liverpool, he reckons torres has not got over one of his injurys and never will, this is why he and liverpool pushed for a move before it was obvious he was finnished, this way liverpool could cash in, and torres could get one last big pay day
In Response To This Stupid Statement. . . . . And It Was'nt Picked Up On In The Medical? FFS"
Medicals are most likely to be be rule out serious illness such as heart problems etc that would prevent or make it difficult for a player to get insured. They would not have time to scan and assess every joint and muscle to diagnose any injury that an elite sportsman may have at the time of transfer and assess whether that is likely to recover fully or to a reasonable level for the transfer to be worthwhile. This is why Aquilani and Carroll have been transferred with current injuries preventing them from playing. Only my opinion though.
08 Feb 2011 11:01:58
"Charlie Adam is a done deal for the summer.
He doesn't know figures or why it wasn't completed in January window but only that the agreement is in place!"
Could be true or not - it might be as I had been thinking whether we should have bought him and offered to let them keep him till summer to ensure they don't go down - it would make sense. Also, right at the end of the window, as he left, Charlie apparently said to a Sky man "I'm sorted". whether that applied to a done deal or he thought he was going to Spuds (unlikely) I wouldn't know. Let's hope so anyway.
08 Feb 2011 10:57:33
Has Torres leaving taught some of you nothing? So what if Pepe wants to leave. I personally don't believe he will, but if he wants to go then get the best price you can for him.
As Kenny has to keep reminding you, no one man is bigger than the club. It's a team effort and if Pepe goes, the team moves on. Anyone who doesn't want to be at Anfield must be moved on!
THE QUAGGAR
08 Feb 2011 10:56:18
Hi again ed. .
. Just wanted to post some good young/ youngish players that i think we could REALISTICALY get this summer, we have been linked with all of them at some point during the past 12 months. .To those who may not have heard of them, check them out and I'm sure you'll agree, we'd be very dangerous with any of them in our squad!
Ever Banega (DM, Valencia)
Pablo Hernandez (RM, Valencia)
Marko Marin (AM, Werder Bremen)
Iker Muniain (AM, WG, Atl Bilbao)
. . I used to be scared when i used to hear what players we were linked with under Roy Hodgson, but now Kenny's in charge I actually KNOW he will only want proper footballers like the ones i've listed above!. .Also, I don't think Kenny will realy want Ashley Young or Downing. .Both are too one dimentional! !. . . What do you think?. Any chance?. .
YNWA
SI
08 Feb 2011 10:43:28
Torres' injury is more of a mental one than a physical one. That is why it was not picked up on the medical where they did no psychological evaluation as they wanted him to sign quickly without reading the fine print.
This injury was then aggrivated on Sunday with that blow to the chin which is the equivelant of being knee'd in the groin by his chic.
He is now left to ponder upon his misfortunes and bad choices. .
We walk on.
YNWA. .Yas
08 Feb 2011 10:41:02
Pepe just wants to play champ league like we all do
08 Feb 2011 10:37:17
Ed Whats the chances of signing Snoggy Doggy now that H&G are gone? He was on our radar, but not so much of late! Do you have any info on him & what's his best position? Thanks Ed for info you might have.
The Irish Rover {ed's note - I think he is on trial with the Galaxy at the mo mate.}
08 Feb 2011 10:32:14
NO PLAYER IS BIGGER THAN THIS FOOTBALL CLUB
and the players that matter are the players that want to be at Liverpool Football Club.
If players want to leave. We will let them leave.
And our new management will not be held to randsom in the way Manure was with Rooney's little tantrum.
Kenny will get the best performance out of the players who want to play for LFC.
AND THATS THE BOTTOM LINE.
So if good players want to leave. Let them go and stop making a huge issue about it.
Its all about the happenings on the pitch during any given 90mins. AND WHAT KENNY DOES NEXT.
YNWA. .Yas
08 Feb 2011 10:17:37
"Heard a rumour from a source, who knows a few faces at liverpool, he reckons torres has not got over one of his injurys and never will, this is why he and liverpool pushed for a move before it was obvious he was finnished, this way liverpool could cash in, and torres could get one last big pay day
In Response To This Stupid Statement. . . . . And It Was'nt Picked Up On In The Medical? FHS!
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He did arrive at the bridge late in the day and in his own clobber, an hour later it was announced that the deal was done and he was then straight in for interview, not sure he could fit a medical in that quickly, Chelski were desperate for him and i think perhaps (not fact) that they just wanted the deal done, could that be why he was left lingering until 2-3 hours before the window was closed?
Couldn't be! could it?"
It's not uncommon for last minute transfers to take place without the medical taking place before the deadline. The deal is done 'subject to medical'. As long as the medical is done at the first opportunity and before the player does any training with the new club it is fine. BigJanFan
08 Feb 2011 10:17:07
08 Feb 2011 06:10:28
To all those Lucas lovers, get a grip. we'll never win EPL with an average player like him at Lfc. have you seen Lucas surging forward. he just can't.for a brazilian, he's technically very poor. have you seen him run when he lost the ball that eventually created a chance for Chelsea? this guy can't even run and try to win the ball back.how many assists he's made? go and check the stats. his pass rates may have incredible % but then most of the passes are 5-6 yards ones and he's vulnerable under pressure.if he was that good as you Lucas lovers believe, then why hasn't any team shown even the slightest of interest in him till yet considering he won't cost much?we definitely need quality midfielders.we won't achieve anything great with players like Lucas, Poulsen, Aurelio, Jovanovic, Maxi, Cole.
Once you identify your quality defensive midfielder I.e masch, alonso, hammann etc we shall win the league probably BUT u still need my Lucas case your quality gets say injured sent off or worst case decides he don't like the weather. Point is none is saying Lucas is the best mid in the world but he's the best mid we have right now at the club so jus sayin little support towards the players after a good day at the office can only benefit lfc.we could push on for cl and have a crack at Europa cup then buy some quality in summer KEEP Lucas for cover
08 Feb 2011 10:15:47
As Voltaire said "The graveyards of the world are full of indispensible people".
Nothing and no one is irreplacable.
RED LENIN
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As Kenny Dalglish said ""There is no one anywhere in the world at any stage who is any bigger or any better than this football club."
Mjr Hufton Tufton (rtd)
08 Feb 2011 10:15:45
Let's get this straight. John Henry has said that nobody is bigger than the club and that he will not keep anyone against their will. However it will be strictly only on our terms that they will go. There is no question of us ever selling a player to the stum regardless of how much his agent might want it.A goalkeeper is someone that you can definately stick in the reserves for a season if need be ala Shay Given. Personally I'd be secretly planning for life without him now anyway, there's never smoke without fire and there's definately something going on with the Spanish contingent at the club.
Clubfirst.com
08 Feb 2011 10:14:29
Hey ED's
Do you think other teams would have the confidence to take a page out of kenny's book and set up a 3 CB defence against chelsea?
More draws for chelsea mean we can close that gap much quicker. . . Thoughts?
YNWA. . Yas
08 Feb 2011 10:04:51
To the person who wrote this. .
villareal but yeh, they are ONLY 3RD in la liga behind a couple of small teams ya know
How many top players do u see at the prime of there career going to villareal?
Make a real point please and we'll have a debate or are u 7 years old?
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Senna, Requilme, Forlan, Nilymar, Rossi etc. .Have all played for Villarael mate. They have been one of Spain's and Euorpe's best teams in the last 5 years.
Blair Mayne YNWA
PS. Don't forget that the best goalkeeper on the planet (Pepe Reina) also played for them.
Blair your completley missing my point here! How many of these were top transfers. .Forlan and rossi were failed at man u and rebuilt there careers at villareal. senna has been there since 2002 and came from brazil and was relativley unknown then. .Reina was plucked from barca reserves. . They are a good club that make there money buy getting the most out of players other clubs don't think are up to it. .Thought u were gonna mention pires in that lot too. .They do not have the resources to go after top players in three prime is my point. . . .
08 Feb 2011 10:04:23
Player contracts
how long does pepe and agger and skirkle and johnson
i would offer theses a new contract under kenny they playing alot better. and i know it never happen but says in the mirror that the scum paper s-n that pepe won't rule out a move to man u. it never happen cos owners know they a rival and history between 2 clubs
08 Feb 2011 10:04:09
I would like to see NESV and Kenny Dalglish sign Gareth Bale in the summer for '£40 million plus' , really settle the left hand side of the pitch down for the next 10 years .
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Please, please, please, don't start this again. Bale won't come ever remeber the Youtube incident, I thought we had all move on from this! Just in case anyones about to say it, Lennon won't be coming either. {ed's note - what is the big deal about Bale anyway? He gets marked out of the game every time he faces a decent full back rather than a wing back.}
08 Feb 2011 09:57:06
This is not a rumour but more of a concern . . for the past 2 years the media seem to focus on liverpool players and the liverpool back room . . . it makes you think if they have some kind of influence on the players decisions as we seem to be losing all of our best ones . . . personally it would be my dream to play for liverpool even for free as we are and I believe will always remain englands best known and most successful team. ed why do you think all the best players are looking at leaving the club. . oh in response to all commentators and pundits who thought that chelsea were going to write off liverpool, surely you should know by now you can never write us off . . {ed's note - like who is thinking of leaving? I don't see Gerrard playing in a different shirt or Reina? I really don't get your point, we have lost two players, in Alonso and Torres, that were good enough to get in the side. One left because he had the chance to join Real Madrid and wasn't sure he was really wanted at Liverpool by Rafa. The other left because it is his way and he did the exact same thing at Atletico. I hardly see it as losing all our best players, nor do I see it as worthy of going on and on about.}
08 Feb 2011 09:54:22
07 Feb 2011 22:08:02
Took you long enough to come back with that incredibly witty response Blair. So I'm thick because I don't rate Lucas, is that the sum total of your intellectual observation? Must try harder
Gotta agree, Lucas is a average player in great form at the moment.
If he is starting next season for us i'll be very worried.
Corkpoolred
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So if he carried on with his great form this season Corkpoolred, what would you do with him during the summer?
You have to remember to mate that Lucas keeps Melo (Juve) out of the Brazil starting 11. And i think that Melo is a top player, so Lucas must be doing somthing right?
Blair Mayne YNWA
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The way I see it and this only my personal opinion is that Lucas has improved vastly and I thought he was excellent againnst Chelsea. I have been a critic of Lucas in the past, so have allot of people. Lucas's pass rate is incredible hes avaeraging an 89% success rate which is high for any prem player. The only difference is his style of pass, its not the killer pass like Alonso would make its more simple to the player near to you, that's not his fault its the type of player he is. I think wher Lucas has struggled is the physical issue. He can get disposessed quite easily, as can many players, unfortunatley he is in a more crucial posission when he gets disposessed due to the nature of the role he occupies, centere mid, toughest posistion on the pitch. I will say this though Lucas has stuck it out a acted like a true proffesional. He gives 100% every time and throws himself into tackles without backing out. He has had some of the worst criticism ever and has still carried ojn when allot of other players would of just quit and withdrawn themselves from the team. The kind of work ethic you can't put a price on. If the desire is there then I think Lucas will keep inproving. I know for a fact the liverpool had him going to the gym to bulk up under Rafa, not sure about now. If Lucas gets his weight and matains his fitness he will improve even more as he will start being able to scrap it out the way centre's in the prem need to. Weight can be gained and with the right training fitness can me maintained and improved (which is essential for footballers bulking up) however work ethic is hard to come by. I see both your points, and again if Lucas can bulk up a bit and matain his fitness I don't see why he could not become allot better than he is and more suited to the prem style.
Bob Loblaw
08 Feb 2011 09:50:40
BLACKBURN IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF HOW KING KENNY WON THE TITLE WITH MORE THAN ONE AVERAGE PLAYER
OH YEAH AND I'LL NAME MYSELF UNLIKE YOU
MOMO786
08 Feb 2011 09:50:21
Give lucas some credit hes come through a lot of
abuse from his own so called fans and won a lot of them round. some fans can't admit they were wrong and no matter what he does won't give him credit.
no team has 12/ 15 world class players ie nevills/ sanderos/ brown etc its a shame torres didn't have the same commitment as lucas.
soul man
08 Feb 2011 09:48:06
Hi Ed,
just a quick question, where have the Bel / Unbel buttons gone?
apologies if this has been answered already, i must have missed it!
Top site and great work Ed's.
YNWA SB {ed's note - it has been asked and answered a number of times, but don't worry. They just overworked the server, so we removed them until we can reprogramme them in a way that doesn't put so much stress on the server.}
08 Feb 2011 09:47:46
That rating for cole was not on how well he played but rather on how good a crying face he put on. .
YNWA. .Yas
08 Feb 2011 09:44:31
Torres has gone. Many have gone before him - Rush, Owen, Aldridge, Beardsley etc etc.
Rumours that Reina may go. As did Clemence, Grobelaar etc etc.
As Voltaire said "The graveyards of the world are full of indispensible people".
Nothing and no one is irreplacable.
RED LENIN
08 Feb 2011 09:43:35
Sky sports are ridiculous, from the chelsea game they gave ashley cole who did f all, the same score as lucas who was fantastic, they clearly didn't watch the game. .
08 Feb 2011 09:39:43
I heard a rumour there was a rumour goin around but that's all it prob is just a rumour. i'l keep u informed!
*****
thats strange, i too have heard a rumour. this bloke told me it. he knows stuff but he wasnt 100% sure about whether its true or just a rumour.
watch this space!
08 Feb 2011 09:32:36
All this talk about pepe going to man utd lol he has more respect for us than that if he left it would be for a bigger club than them!
{Editor's Note: I recall the same discussion over Torres last summer.}
08 Feb 2011 09:16:42
REINA
If Roy Hodgson stayed on the the club continued on its decline Reina was surely left us at the end of the season or at most given us one more season. Its obvious that he would have thought long about it and had seriously considered it as much as he loves the club and wants to be part of its history.
But now Kenny is here and things are on the upward curve. He may not openly state that he will not leave just yet because he would want to see if things are consistent and not a fluke before he makes any such statement.
But we all know that kenny is the definition of consistency. So its just a matter of time before Reina is convinced and confident enough to make that statement. And he would probably do it by signing another contract to keep him here for another 5 and a half years since that seems to be the in thing. . lol
YNWA. . Yas
08 Feb 2011 09:15:04
{Editor's Note: There is no release clause. All he did was politely dodge a question.}
Ed! Dnt u think politely dodging a question rather than a straight no means tht he is giving a hint of leaving in case we dnt qualify for CL. . .
Red
08 Feb 2011 09:11:39
Why are people still picking on lucas? He gives 100% every single game, for every tackle he misses he nails 10, for every pass he misses he nails 20. Sometimes he gives the ball away, but who doesnt? Or is he the only player in world football who gives the ball away? There's a reason he plays in the BRAZILLIAN 1st TEAM. Felipe melo has a cool name, but he's a carp player. Josue is getting on in years as well. To be honest, except for tiote of newcastle, who else is better than playing lucas's role in the league? Mikel? Carrick? Cattermole? Denilson? Palacios? Yeah, didnt think so. He has a fair bit of skill as well we just don't see it that often. The one thing keeping lucas back from being a world class player is the lack of support from some fans, the media etc. Lets get behind lucas and the team and turn him into the player we know he can be.
Red bl00ded!
08 Feb 2011 09:03:53
WE NEED TO KEEP LUCAS.
Cons:
He may not have Alonso's ability to pass.
He may not have Masch's ability to tackle and cover space.
And when he gets the ball he never gives the impression that somethings gonna happen.
Pros: But he has alot of things going for him in that he's a workhorse. He's superfit and runs endlessy.
He hardly ever gets injured
He has passion for the game and will give 100% whenever he's put out there.
LUCAS IS A SQUAD PLAYER. SOMEONE EVERYTEAM NEEDS IF YOU ARE GOING TO COMPETE IN ALL COMPETITIONS IN A LONG SEASON.
-Yes there are plenty others who may be more creative or better defensively than him in Banega/ Adam etc. And they may go straight into the starting lineup. But we still need lucas as a rotation player in the squad.
YNWA. . Yas
08 Feb 2011 08:58:39
Hi Ed Do you think we will be in the market for a right winger in summer? as Johnson and Gerrard fit the bill there for me. A left winger is a certainty i think if we can get the right player in this position in the summer we gunna go places next season
{Editor's Note: It won't be the highest priority.}
08 Feb 2011 08:57:41
Reina won't rule out move away, even to united
wth is going on? do they know something we don't?
08 Feb 2011 08:38:36
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So if he carried on with his great form this season Corkpoolred, what would you do with him during the summer?
You have to remember to mate that Lucas keeps Melo (Juve) out of the Brazil starting 11. And i think that Melo is a top player, so Lucas must be doing somthing right?
Blair Mayne YNWA
He needs to be kept weather or which, all teams need a player like Lucas in the squad.
One of those guys if your leading away to a top side you could bring on to tighten up the midfield,
I like Lucas but i don't think he could be in the side week in week out if we want to be challenging for top honors, do you think so Blair?
08 Feb 2011 08:29:50
Took you long enough to come back with that incredibly witty response Blair. So I'm thick because I don't rate Lucas, is that the sum total of your intellectual observation? Must try harder
Gotta agree, Lucas is a average player in great form at the moment.
If he is starting next season for us i'll be very worried.
Corkpoolred
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So if he carried on with his great form this season Corkpoolred, what would you do with him during the summer?
You have to remember to mate that Lucas keeps Melo (Juve) out of the Brazil starting 11. And i think that Melo is a top player, so Lucas must be doing somthing right?
Blair Mayne YNWA
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people don't appreciate what lucas does. Against chelsea he committed a "professional foul" and picked up a yellow. Some may criticize that but he may have saved us from conceding a goal because chelsea were on the break.
08 Feb 2011 08:25:37
Is lucas finally getting some good press. . unblievable
08 Feb 2011 08:16:14
{ed's note - Melo was rated as Serie A's worst buy at one time, a very average player who had the highest booking rate in world football during his first season at Juve. That is why they want rid, he offers very little, he is their Poulsen.}
Who was Juve's Poulsen when Poulsen was at Juve?
08 Feb 2011 08:15:59
I have to admit ive been one of the worst critics of lucas since he put on a red shirt . but i have to say the lad is finally starting to fulfill his potential . . i thought he was fantastic against chelsea and has been one of the most consistent players all season. .he has finally caught up with the pace of the premiership . . .
keep up the good work son
next job christian poulson!
08 Feb 2011 08:13:50
Riena won't rule out UTD move and wants to play champions league FHS!
08 Feb 2011 08:09:26
Knock knock
who's there ?
Fernando
Fernando who?
EXACTLY! (done in the same voice as the ian rush milk ad)
08 Feb 2011 07:45:49
Lucas is my favourite player mainly for the strength of charactr he has shown over th past three seasons. .i really admire him, he must have some halls to have the courage to actually get o the ball after the abuse he suffered at the hands of his own fans. every mistake he makes is blown out of proportion, watching the chelsea game gerrard gav the ball away more than him, the number of misplaced passes gerrard gave was unreal against chelsea but gerrard doesn't get slated for it, lucas does. i like him and now he is the pivotal point of our midfield sat there in front of the back four nver ts sent off, in a position that requires genuine "hard men" yet lucas chooses to play it his own way, not amidfield enforcer like masch van bommel de jong, he rather just harries and hassles oppponents into making mistakes and giving th ball away, he doesn't divee in makign reckless challenges. for a playr that camee to us as an attacking midfielder i m impressd by the way he has adapated to a more defensive role to the point that he is now our most capable dfensive midfielder
the abilty to adapt is called intelligence
08 Feb 2011 07:29:08
I see the media are putting out ridiculous stories linking pepe with a summer move to the Mancs!
I suppose with us playing so well and FT sold to a rival they will be linking All our top players with someone or other? It was SG last week to RM! They just don't like to see us doing well. We've turned a corner and now they cannot mock so find other ways of upsetting the fans.
Wan'ers
Lee73
Do not buy any newspapers.
08 Feb 2011 07:10:56
To the guy yesterday who said:
"we always get blinded by chanting for the players WE PAY LOADS FOR and half the time don't deserve it
(maxi for one)"
The rest of your post i agreed with (Sticking up for Lucas, Kuyt etc)
Check your facts (See below)
""On 13 January 2010, Rodriguez completed a FREE TRANSFER to Liverpool, signing a three-and-a-half year deal.""
If you'd have replaced Maxi with "Torres" you might have been closer.
Stay passionate my friend.
Matt S - YNWA
08 Feb 2011 06:55:19
Goodmorning Eds. . & Dreamers
KENNY. . Well the change has come.
And one thing you will not hear from the king is complaints that we need money. The famous Rafa anthem which made the current team feel not good enough and did nothing for the morale of the squad.
No matter where Rafa may go to it would be the same anthem he sings as an excuse for him not achieving results.
This man brings the best out of what we have. If they were not good players they would not have been brought to LFC in the first place. (apart from konchesky of cause)
Its going to be like signing a whole new squad with Kenny at the helm cos every player here would be twice as good as he had been under anyone else.
ITS ABOUT TIME WE SHUT DOWN THE RUMOURS PAGE. AND FLOOD THE BANTER IN SUPPORT OF THE KING. Because one thing is fact. And that is that he knows more about football and about what we need to achieve greatness again than any one of you fantasy managers who dream about having cash like chelsea or city. . Thats not what the game is about.
We now have a manager who has Liverpool in his heart and soul. He knows what he is doing. And he has a top top right hand man in Clarke.
WHY DON'T YOU PEOPLE JUST ENJOY THE RIDE INSTEAD OF NIT PICKING.
YNWA. .Yas
08 Feb 2011 06:40:03
Just my 2p's worth on the old Lucas Leiva debate that seems to be doing the rounds at the moment.
I feel he could be our "Ray Parlour."
(Now, wait a minute.)
FA Premier League - winner 1998, 2002, 2004
FA Cup - winner 1993, 1998, 2002, 2003; runner-up 2001
League Cup - winner 1993
European Cup Winners Cup - winner 1994; runner-up 1995
UEFA Cup - runner-up 2000
Not too shabby?
Here's hoping. .
Lucas. I was wrong. I'll hold my hands up, here and now and admit it. First class my son.
Matt S - YNWA
08 Feb 2011 06:33:29
All the stevie g sellers, get a grip, kk won't sell him, stevie won't go as he finally has a realistic chance of winning no 19 with kk in charge and nesv providing the sufficient cash for playing staff. plus he has been here since a lad and i for one would never want him to go.
just to add that king kenny is doin a fantastic job, the buzz is back and better than ever. i was always a rafa fan but havin king kenny back is like the old days. im that excited i just can't get enough liverpool football club! ! get in there boys! !
matty b
08 Feb 2011 06:10:28
To all those Lucas lovers, get a grip. we'll never win EPL with an average player like him at Lfc. have you seen Lucas surging forward. he just can't.for a brazilian, he's technically very poor. have you seen him run when he lost the ball that eventually created a chance for Chelsea? this guy can't even run and try to win the ball back.how many assists he's made? go and check the stats. his pass rates may have incredible % but then most of the passes are 5-6 yards ones and he's vulnerable under pressure.if he was that good as you Lucas lovers believe, then why hasn't any team shown even the slightest of interest in him till yet considering he won't cost much?we definitely need quality midfielders.we won't achieve anything great with players like Lucas, Poulsen, Aurelio, Jovanovic, Maxi, Cole.
08 Feb 2011 06:08:04
Looks like we might be able to sell Poulsen and Konchesky to West Brom in the summer if Roy gets the job - LIVERPRES
08 Feb 2011 05:18:19
News is that Reina is going to leave this season. Going to Man Utd if Liverpool don't qualify for CL. . ohh, well. .
-Devil in Red
08 Feb 2011 04:40:23
We paid £35 mill for a player whos injured probably won't be back untill mid march, whos injured with those types of injuries that can ruin ur career, one u can keep injuring over and over, seriously whyyyyy did we buy carroll, why didn't we just offer the same amount for llorente which we probably would of got for that money, , and he is better and not injured
08 Feb 2011 04:07:40
That is why they want rid, he offers very little, he is their Poulsen.
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Good call Ed. so they got rid of their actual Poulsen but now have an inferior Poulsen Ha Ha.
Mort182
08 Feb 2011 03:31:43
To the person who posted the photo of Torres on the Chelsea Dodgy Picture page - great job mate!
Grayswood
08 Feb 2011 02:12:45
Not bad for a player who just is "not good enough"
Read it and rejoice - A look at Lucas' Opta statistics during his 90-minute, plus injury-time, outing against Chelsea demonstrates his improvement. His overall pass completion rate was an incredible 88.89 per cent, 81.82% when in the opponents' half of the field. These figures are very similar to his contribution for the 2010/ 11 campaign to date, with an overall pass completion of 84.02% and 81.08% when in the opponents' section of the field. One goal has been assisted and 14 chances created from a total of 1133 passes.
The obvious argument would be to suggest that the majority of passes have been simple 10-yard side-foots when under no pressure. But there is a skill to decision-making when doing the unsung task. Ask Sergio Busquets. A destructive force has also been added to Lucas' game. Ninety-nine tackles have been made throughout the season at a success rate of 66.67%. Four yellow cards have been collected. The second booking earned in the defeat to Stoke in November was an act of petulance, but also a reflection of new-found aggression. Seven tackles were made against Chelsea. This may not sound a lot, but that is one player recording exactly one third of Liverpool's entire tackle count at Stamford Bridge. (from Peter Fraser Article)
Mort182
08 Feb 2011 02:10:20
I think one thing we've seen from Kenny is that he is great at looking at which players we have availible, looking at our opponent and figuring out the best way to deploy our guys. The tactics against Chelsea were brilliant, Kenny played them like a fiddle. The thing about having a manager who is so adept at analyzing an opponent and figuring out to play on a week to week basis is that in order to full take advantage of it you need a deep and versatile team.
I think whats been amazing about the 3 man defense Kenny has been using is that it puts all our players in positions to play well and succeed and basically everyone has played well. Except for Maxi, which is why it would have been great to get Charlie Adam. He would have excelled in the role Maxi played against Chelsea.
So based on what Ive said I think we need to get 4 players in the summer to put at Kenny's disposal.
1-A centerback. We need another quality one so when Kenny wants to play a 3 man defense he has ample options. A player like Gary Cahill will fit the bill.
2-A player who can play out wide to the left. Im hesitant to say a leftback because I think Kenny would have bigger plans for this guy than simply leftback. Johnson and Kelly have played much more like wingers the past 2 games than fullbacks. I think Fabio Coentrao would be a perfect fit. And I still say keep Johnson and Kelly. When we do play a 3 man defense we can play JOhnson on the right, when he doesn't have to worry about defense. When we play a traditional back 4, Kelly can hold the spot down. Plus JOhnson has shown he can provide cover on the leftside.
3-A midfielder who can sit deep and play a creative role. This would be Charlie Adam. When Kenny wants to play a 4 man midfield in either a diamond or square we need someone who can be creative. The past 2 games weve tried Aurelio and Maxi in this spot, without great results. A player like Adam could slide in here and be great.
4-A versatile attacking player. Id like Eden Hazard. I want someone versatile because like I said, I see Kenny as someone willing to mix up our style of play so Id want someone who can play in a bunch of roles. Hazard could play out wide, he could play in the hole on the front of a midfield diamond, he could play deeper and cover for Gerrard or Meireles.
I think with these 4 players wed have a team that would be extremely versatile and able to play different formations and styles seemlessly. Which would make it very difficult for opponents to train for us. Think about it, one game we could play like we did against Stoke 3-4-2-1: LB-Coentrao, CB-Agger, CB-Carragher, CB-Cahill, RB-Johnson, DM-Lucas, DM-Adam, CM-Gerrard, CM-Meireles, ST-Carroll
The next day we could play more like how we played against Chelsea: CB-Agger, CB-Carragher, CB-Cahill, DM-Lucas, LM-Coetrao, CM-Gerrard, CM-Meireles, RM-Johnson, AMC-Hazard, ST-Suarez
Then we could play a regular 4-3-3: LB-Coentrao, CB-Agger, CB-Cahill, RB-Kelly, DM-Lucas, CM-Gerrard, CM-Meireles, LF-Suarez, CF-Carroll, RF-Hazard
Just think we could mix and match, change it up to suit our opponents and always have quality on the pitch. And always have quality on the bench in case we have to change our shape during a game. This is the kind of team we need with Kenny in charge!
08 Feb 2011 01:38:09
Yes mate that is the same Melo. But do you not think with Aqualani playing so well for Juve, would have somthing to do with Juve looking to sell Melo if it's true what you're saying? If so then Melo will probably go for 15-20 mill because he is quality imo.
Blair Mayne YNWA
I can see where you are coming from mate but the fact is that Juve were trying to off-load Melo even before they had secured Aquilani on loan. Makes me think that they know something that the rest of us are not privy to.
He was also being offered to Arsenal as a make-weight in a deal to take Adebayor to the Stadio Delle Alpi which would also suggest that he is not being valued as highly by his employers as he is by yourself. {ed's note - Melo was rated as Serie A's worst buy at one time, a very average player who had the highest booking rate in world football during his first season at Juve. That is why they want rid, he offers very little, he is their Poulsen.}
08 Feb 2011 01:27:17
I still don't understand the criticism Lucas recieves.
And I have to agree 100% with blair and most true supporters of LFC.
Lucas took a lot of stick when he first arrived at liverpool, but he was bought from Gremio when he was actually a more attacking midfielder and then all of a sudden he's playing for us, in the middle of the park being asked to be more defensive, meaning his job was to stop some of the very best attack minded midfielders when he was more light weight and only a young lad.
I didn't take to him very well at the start but you could see a real willingness in his play and although he could hear the things said about him in games, and groans when he lis placed a pass, he kept on going and came back bigger and better every season.
He was last year, and again has been this year, one of our most consistant players and he is more then worthy of starting in the biggest games because he does a job, and does it well.
I heard a statistic not so long ago. . in all competitions he had misplaced just 6 passes in all competitions which in any league in world football is something to be proud of.
People may say he goes sidewards and backwards, which is the job of ANY midfielder, keep the ball.
But he has also improved dramatically in his key passes, he has a real eye for a long ball and before he goe sidewards with it, he does generally look to play a through ball to create a chance, just in previous seasons we have had 1 striker marked by 4 defenders meaning very little chance to create.
In the current way we are playing he is much more intellegent with his game, ok he does still lose posession at times, but so does every player in every league so the criticism he recieves really surprises me at times.
He is on his way to becoming a real classy midfielder and even the media are starting to realise they were wrong to judge him so early.
To any fan still not in agreement with these facts I would suggest watching a full game or actually going to anfield and watching his positioning, late runs forward and terrific attitude to the cause before bad mouthing him, he never stands still on a pitch and never hides when things arnt going well which is what we all love in a player. But as I said, he is actually proving a lot of people wrong and has been for 2 seasons now.
LFC Till I Die
08 Feb 2011 01:07:41
I'd love to see; Theo, Johnson, Albrighton, Wilshere, Rodwell, Gibbs, Richards & Walker at Anfield.You will mate, but unfortunately most will be in opposition colours. Good players though!
Irish Kev.
08 Feb 2011 01:04:13
Really hope we don't chase Adam anymore.
There are better, cheaper players out there who have better potential.
Hope to Chri$t Kenny can see that.
I'm sorry but we need better than Adam!
Irish Kev.
08 Feb 2011 00:45:59
I'd love to see; Theo, Johnson, Albrighton, Wilshere, Rodwell, Gibbs, Richards & Walker at Anfield.
08 Feb 2011 00:42:35
Anybody remember Adam Pepper?
Poor guy has left LFC after a bad injury.
What a shame as he seemed to really have a big future!
Back training but mutually terminated contract or something.
I wish him well in his search for a new club.
Was just talking to him via a social network.
Seems like a sound guy!
Shame!
YNWA Adam.
Irish Kev.
08 Feb 2011 00:37:02
John Henry stated last week, the squad will be funded off player sales plus profits. And that's exactly how a football club should be run.
08 Feb 2011 00:21:48
After buying Mr Carroll is it true that you are selling
all your midfielders as your main playmaker will now be
Jamie Carragher who can hoof it from the back?{Editors note: No, wouldn't have thought so}
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Who better than Carroll to hoof it up to? If Hodgson was still in charge and we had Carroll we'd probably get a CL spot.
Blair Mayne YNWA
08 Feb 2011 00:18:44
I would like to see NESV and Kenny Dalglish sign Gareth Bale in the summer for '£40 million plus' , really settle the left hand side of the pitch down for the next 10 years .
08 Feb 2011 00:17:26
You have to remember to mate that Lucas keeps Melo (Juve) out of the Brazil starting 11. And i think that Melo is a top player, so Lucas must be doing somthing right?
Is this the same Melo that Juve are desperately trying to hawk around Europe to any club with a chequebook?
Lucas has been in fantastic form this season especially since KK has become manager - but if he isn't seen as having a future at the club then we will be in an ideal position to sell him for the maximum value.
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Yes mate that is the same Melo. But do you not think with Aqualani playing so well for Juve, would have somthing to do with Juve looking to sell Melo if it's true what you're saying? If so then Melo will probably go for 15-20 mill because he is quality imo.
Blair Mayne YNWA
08 Feb 2011 00:13:37
I was just looking at Lucas' stats for the Chelsea game, where I thought he was excellent again, and saw his pass completion percentage was 88.09% which is amazing. What makes it even more amazing is the fact that his season percentage is actually 84.0%, which is unbelievable. This from a guy who was slagged off by most of the supporters for most of his LFC career. Lets face it guys, we were all wrong, this man is the real deal. Whats even better is he's only 24, this gives us another 8 possible years. What do you think Ed's. .
Sooty {Editors note: Where are them stats from? }
Sky Sports - U know what there like for their stats.
Sooty {ed's note - he is having a fantastic season.}
08 Feb 2011 00:05:24
Lucas is an un-sung Anfield hero and had been one of a few outstanding performer's this season. His character is perfect for the liverpool badge, pushing through the criticism to become a stronger player and person, and to sell him in the summer would be madness. Why nurture a young player, do all the hard work, only to sell him on and let another club benefit from his development? lucas has steadily improved from season to season, and whilst he didn't set the world on fire in his first couple of seasons he has proved himself to be instrumental in our better performances and he is still certain to play his heart out for us every match, which is exactly what type of player we need.
Whilst they are completely different players in different situations, its worth pointing out that :
Torres played bad, gets criticism, sulks like a girl(still worshipped and excused by many) and hands in transfer request
Lucas plays consistently well, steadily improves, still gets criticism, but up's his game, trains harder and fights harder for the team. I know which type of 'professional' i prefer. I expect him to be in the candidates for our player of the season and is better than many of his counter parts at other 'big' clubs. He is not the most technically gifted player in the world, but his work rate and desire to silence critics and do his best for the club is to be commended and personify's the liverpool way. Lucas is a red through and through, maybe more so than a lot of us realise.
Red and dead frustrated.
07 Feb 2011 23:56:48
You have to remember to mate that Lucas keeps Melo (Juve) out of the Brazil starting 11. And i think that Melo is a top player, so Lucas must be doing somthing right?
Is this the same Melo that Juve are desperately trying to hawk around Europe to any club with a chequebook?
Lucas has been in fantastic form this season especially since KK has become manager - but if he isn't seen as having a future at the club then we will be in an ideal position to sell him for the maximum value.
07 Feb 2011 23:56:21
I was just looking at Lucas' stats for the Chelsea game, where I thought he was excellent again, and saw his pass completion percentage was 88.09% which is amazing. What makes it even more amazing is the fact that his season percentage is actually 84.0%, which is unbelievable. This from a guy who was slagged off by most of the supporters for most of his LFC career. Lets face it guys, we were all wrong, this man is the real deal. Whats even better is he's only 24, this gives us another 8 possible years. What do you think Ed's. .
Sooty {Editors note: Where are them stats from??}