Liverpool Banter Archive October 08 2015

 

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08 Oct 2015 23:43:24
I don't think we should keep harping on about how 'sacking Rodgers in the summer' would have been the perfect scenario. It wouldn't have been pefect if Klopp / CA etc weren't ready to accept our offer.
Imagine, doing the 'right thing' and finding out that the top managers aren't available? What then? Appoint Big Sam?

This knee jerk approach to sacking without a plan has been tried and tested many times before by clubs like Newcastle etc
This is a war, not a battle. Sometimes you have to make choices based upon knowledge - regardless of timings. Gary Mc is a grown-up. He obviously knew the risks / rewards before taking the job

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09 Oct 2015 01:16:14
I have to agree, if he wasn't available in the summer, the club's done exactly the right thing to ensure the right hire and smoothest transition possible. And I generally think the last window brought in the right kind of players, particularly Clyne, Firmino, Milner, Gomez, Ings will all fit Kopp style. Benteke not sure how will cope with the defensive pressing but let's hope works out as he's a class act.

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09 Oct 2015 02:48:41
If Klopp is who they really wanted and were just holding out till he became available then their gamble paid off. I just saw a snippet of Klopp's footie philosophy in an interview on the club's website. He is truly a heavy metal guy when it comes to football. He loves the high press, high pace, high intensity stuf. He comes across as direct as his approach to football. Straight to the point, what you see is what you get. Great guy and someone I would love to hang out with. Welcome to Anfield, Jurgen! We at now all K

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09 Oct 2015 02:49:14
We are now all Kloppites! Finished my post.

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08 Oct 2015 23:48:43
How is John Achterberg still in a job?

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09 Oct 2015 00:41:31
If I were him I wouldn't be expecting a Christmas bonus.

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08 Oct 2015 22:24:10
When i heard about the press conference scheduled for 10am tomorrow for a "Major Club Announcement" i assumed it was to announce Klopp as our new manager.

The club have just announced Klopp so i was wondering if it is something else? Does anybody have any ideas?

Thanks

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{Ed002's Note - It is the sale to the Red Chinese. But please don't mention it on Twitter.}

08 Oct 2015 22:28:28
I think we can all safely assume that the 10AM ''major announcement'' will be the official press conference to unveil Jurgen Klopp as the new Liverpool manager.

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08 Oct 2015 22:52:26
it's not Joe Allen is it? 🇨🇳

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08 Oct 2015 22:46:49
Yeh to let you know buying my new shirt

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08 Oct 2015 22:03:54
Hey guys,

I was just wondering if anyone plays poker on here? Recently I've been looking at the poker page but know one seems to post.

I'm a big lover of the game so if anyone fancies popping over and keeping me company on that page to talk through some plays etc please do.

Thanks

:)

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08 Oct 2015 19:48:13
Ed 2 who cares bout who they sack people get sacked everyday m8 but some people who get sacked ain't getting th money garry mc will judge'n by your posts seems to me your jealous we av appointed klopp

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{Ed002's Note - Right on - screw the Liverpool "legends". It is interesting to watch the fans like you going from jerking off over the ex-Liverpool players like McAllister to saying "who cares about who they sack". Please don't complain if the words "laughing stock" get mentioned. But it is not about me, obviously he is the rat shit ex Liverpool waster you don't care about.

Sorry that I do have an opinion on this.}

08 Oct 2015 22:36:44
The club is what is important to all the Liverpool fans. Klopp wants to install his own staff which isn't unheard of, he has people he works with and trusts and i'm sure Gary Mac will be understanding about it, without becoming irrational or bitter towards the club, the badge or his status among the fans.

It does seem like the owners were a bit short sighted with the recruitment of staff in the Summer, sacking Rodgers and his staff some 8 games into the new season but that is fickle harshness of the results based game we all love.

I hope Gary Mac gets back into the game at some decent coaching level, but i'm sure he's been compensated for his efforts with Liverpool F.C.

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08 Oct 2015 22:47:22
Any other job if you get sacked after 10 or so weeks without doing too much wrong, you'll be pretty mad

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08 Oct 2015 22:54:09
I don't often stick up for ed2 but this is stupid. Gary McAllister is a legend that was treated like shit. He would of expected to get a good run at the job but he got a few months and then gets offered a role as an ambassador. It is a joke.

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08 Oct 2015 23:16:36
It's the nature of the game though.
Gary Mac is a legend and he is certainly no fool when it comes to football. Everyone knows when a new manager comes in he usually brings a team of backroom staff.
It has been that way all through Gary Mac's career.
It's a shame, of course, but I'm sure he will bounce back.
Plus he lost his job but has been offered another role.

I have more sympathy for Eva Carneiro.

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08 Oct 2015 23:05:28
Ed02 - Mate normally I would of been with you on this argument. Legends should be treat like Legends but the fact is is that Gary was taken along with O Driscoll as coach and had little to no impact. There was no improvement. Legend or not, if he can't do the job he was employed to do then he has to go. As far as I am aware Mac was the only one kept on in any capacity.

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{Ed002's Note - I completely understand - Gary McAllister is a waster who can't do his job and has to go. The fan base has spoken.}

08 Oct 2015 23:25:50
That post about Gary mc getting sacked and people getting sacked every day.
Had to be a wind up right? Seriously nobody is thick enough to think that. I feel for Gary mc really do. must of been a horrible situation for him.

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08 Oct 2015 23:26:27
I agree Ron, now there is an embarrasing club. Chelsea and Mourinho just drag English football down, if it's not sexist managers, wrongful sackings, it's John lock up your wife Terry and his gambling. The list goes on.

Many top clubs of class have former players as ambassadors, he wouldn't have accepted if he didn't want it.

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08 Oct 2015 23:42:35
Tbh I'm elated at the appointment of klopp AND his staff at the club, but disappointed at how it has been done.

I for some reason like BR but don't think he was the right man for the job, but treatment off the appointed staff is short sighted and harsh.

Can say they haven't provided improvement but is a month and half into the season. Everyone is rightly saying give klopp time with the team before you judge him, but then seem to be fine with doing the opposite with the staff released.

Don't think with BR at the helm it would improve but what was the point of not doing this in the summer? Can't blame the coaching staff for not immediately improving the team and imagine it will take klopp time to do so. Seems they changed the coaching staff, tied their hands behind their backs and tossed them to the wolves.

Added to that klopp now has less time to implement his methods and a £100m+ less to get the players wanted it. Just think it is harsh on the coaches brought it and provided a stepper hill for klopp to climb

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08 Oct 2015 23:50:34
Why become petty and bring chelsea into this? Who even cares what chelsea and mourinho does? This is about liverpool and what happened to SO and GM is pretty embarassing. however it is part of the game i'm sure they both know that, blame lies in the hands of the owners but what's done is done
.move on

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09 Oct 2015 00:42:59
As a wise old sage once said , "just transient employees of the club" 😉

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09 Oct 2015 02:28:45
The right thing to do for the club is to give Klopp the team that works best for him now he's been appointed. I'm assuming Gary would have known going into the job this was a risk if things didn't turn around, maybe not this early but certainly before Christmas would have been a thought.

It's a difficult situation but I don't think it's fair to say he's been completely screwed over, at least he has something until he can decide what to take on next.

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{Ed001's Note - he was led to believe he would be given the season, regardless of what happened, which is why the club offered him a different role, rather than just booted him.}

09 Oct 2015 04:15:04
Here's my take on it.

There are two ways to judge the season review in the summer that went by: it was a major, short sighted f*** up; or an inadvertent masterstroke.

It could be viewed as an inadvertent master stroke because if they sacked Rodgers in May, I have doubts about whether Klopp would have been attainable. Would he have accepted an offer and cut his sabbatical dramatically short? Probably not, and we'd probably be left with a manager of lesser calibre. By waiting until now to sack Rodgers, we picked the perfect time to capture Klopp's services.

You can also say it was a f*** up because of obvious reasons: short-sighted naivety with Rodgers; took the piss-weak half measure of sacking the whole coaching as if to say all our troubles was their fault, leaving us exposed to a situation that will be mentioned further in this paragraph; letting a guy, who would only manage 8 more games, spend a lot of money on half a new team; forcing ourselves into an immoral situation where we've had to sack SoD and Gary Mac for practically doing nothing wrong, only mere months after they've had to readjust their lives for the Liverpool job.

Given the fact that landing Klopp is such a massive coup, I'm leaning more towards the interpretation that it was an inadvertent master stroke, but I think that the club's goodwill has taken a hit. If they instead opted for a convicted full measure and told Rodgers to keep his coaching staff, we wouldn't be stuck in this moral dilemma.

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09 Oct 2015 08:18:14
Eds- your reading far too much into posts Mate. Nobody is disrespecting Gary, OK possibly the original post. It doesn't matter which new manager came in they would instate their own backroom staff. We all know what Gary helped us achieve in his short playing career time here but he fact is once BR went he himself must of known his time was up. If Gary felt so disrespected and put out he would of walked. Thing would of been talked over with him I'm sure. We know he loves LFC and would only want what is best for the club. Yes he will be disappointed as we all are, nobody wants someone to fail or get the sack but I get he is just as excited as the rest of us. It may not be morally right but we only know half the story.

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{Ed002's Note - Yes they are. RTFP.}

09 Oct 2015 08:59:57
Ed not the whole fanbase, only a section of it, i am actually in agreement with you. Having recently been screwed on a job promised to me i am not one for reneaging on promises. Yes i love the club but first and foremost the club was built on people and building strong relationships.

Gary mac helped this club achieve one of its greatest seasons in its history and DESERVES respect. I say no more than this.

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{Ed002's Note - I completely agree with you.}

08 Oct 2015 19:23:51
A question for ed02 if I may, what does an ambassador role actually mean? Is it a paid job within the club or is it some sort of flimsy title that means nothing at all but make you feel important. Thanks bud

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{Ed002's Note - It means he will show up to a number of events and generally extol the virtues of the club. He will conduct an interview or two. He will also perhaps show up on match days and sit at one of the tables in the director's lounge. Flakey for me, sorry.}

08 Oct 2015 22:43:13
Thanks for the reply ed02 I thought it strange he accepted it. It's such a step down I thought he'd say no out of pride more than anything ah well each to there own.

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09 Oct 2015 04:15:51
It's a f***ing bludge. Just talk about how great Liverpool is.

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08 Oct 2015 22:20:28
What is Klopp's history regarding younger players? That is, academy players and younger players in the current squad. We have that many "knocking on the door" and out on loan, but we don't really know how good they are until they get a chance. Is Klopp likely to back what he sees in training?

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08 Oct 2015 22:38:21
Klopp has a history of letting the players who are most likely to contribute to a win be on the pitch as much as possible. If they happen to be 17 years old then great and if they hapen to be 37 just as good. If those knocking on the door will not only knock but also play at a legit PL level they will play. If they are not good enough they will go elsewhere. As I said many times, the role of LFC manager is to win trophies, not to develop the academy.I don't see him give young players 20 games even if they play rubbish. There is ot time for that in a team like LFC.

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09 Oct 2015 02:33:50
I think he'll do wonders for the likes of Ibe, Markovic, Rossiter, Chirivella, Gomez and Illori (if he returns). Not all will make it to the very top of course, but I reckon some of these could go on to be superstars.

With so much young talent, and some top first team players already, and a leader like Klopp to develop, this could just be the beginning of a core of youth that comes through to dominate the league in 5 years time.

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09 Oct 2015 03:07:36
Klopp worked wonders with youth like Gotze, Hoffman, Durm (from the Mainz academy), was interested in Ilori, made shrewd signings like Subotic, Hummels (loan to buy from Bayern) Perisic, Pisczek, Kagawa and his greatest creation a.k.a Lewandowski who he signed from Poznan in Polish football for the king's ransom do 4m. He is a master at improving players and since he will have a better squad to work with here than the scraps he was left with when he arrived at BVB, things can only get better.

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08 Oct 2015 21:11:44
Alright lads. I think klopp is a decent manager to come in and take you up the table a bit. How far I'm not too sure. He's done brilliantly in his career but also has a few blemishes such as a relegation, and Dortmund weren't to good last season. But clearly he is a good manager. I think Ancelotti is probably as this moment the better. But Klopp has age on his side.

What I wanted to say was, I'm sure your all looking forward to attacking high press football again and rightly so. But be cautious too. You played that way two years ago and nearly made it. But a lot of that was down to the genius of Suarez. The issue was conceding to many goals and you can't win this league shipping 1.5/2 goals each game. What I am saying is, to play attacking football with high press and succeed you need a dencent defence and keeper to bail you out when the inevitable counter attacks come. I'm not convinced skyrtl, sakho and mignolet offer that assurance and so maybe the wise thing would be not to go to attacking and find a nice blend. Then reinforce the defence and keeper before really going for it? Interesting times ahead

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08 Oct 2015 21:38:22
Thanks for your interest Stand one thing to know is we have a far better manager than you lot, so chin up lad.

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08 Oct 2015 21:53:45
Are you really a MUFC supporter ,you sound quite sensible!

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08 Oct 2015 22:01:37
If he could persuade Rues and Hummels to join we could really go places. .

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08 Oct 2015 22:06:08
Fair point mate- we don't have the threat we had on the break with suarez, but on the other hand klopp will have the whole team much much better drilled on counterattack than rodgers ever did, and sturridge plus benteke are still a pretty dangerous pair.
With klopp and suarez I'd back us to win the league, but as things stand we'll still be a major contender for a CL place next season.

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08 Oct 2015 22:07:37
You can always tell when some one hasn't actually watched Sakho. And just gone off what mick down at the local has told them.

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08 Oct 2015 22:38:48
While you do speak with reason it does seem as though all the rival fans are being extremely biased against our new appointment despite the fact every team in the league would love to have him.

Van Gaal is arrogant and overrated, count
i can see him eventually leaving under a cloud when his luck is revealed. United have been so lucky getting good results this year and last i don't even know where to start.

Mourinho is also a self righteous arrogant manager, who will probably do the same as van gaal and leave when he has alienated the whole team with boring tactics and poor team selections.

Wenger is quickly turning into a huge fraud, arsenal never look any closer to winning the league or the champions league each year, i don't even think its their technical ability its just wengers inability to change tactics and motivate his players correctly for big games.

Then you have spurs, who have a pretty solid team to be honest, and a good coach, so i would not be surprised to see them do okay eventually, if they stop believing harry kane is the best centre forward in the world.

And then you have everton, who also have a good team, but a manager who is essentially the spanish rodgers and that will come back to haunt them when the going gets tough again like last year.

Theres also city, who i believe to be the best team in the league by a mile with a solid coach and the only true world class players in the league - they will walk the title this year.

However amongst all this you have us, who have a decent squad who's confidence is below rock bottom and a lot of players who are disillusioned with their own careers most likely. Unlike the other top clubs bar city, our new manager isn't a complete arse, not yet at least. Not only is he the coolest and most charismatic man in football, he also has a winning track record and everybody loves him, from players to pundits to fans all over the world, to every tom dick and harry who tried to get him to sign up with them.

Point is, i don't know why all the other clubs are being so bitter, probably out of jealousy, but i'd be asking serious questions about 3 of the 4 big managers in the league and their teams. Klopp will improve us and pick us up, and if he can get our confidence off the ground, there is no reason we cannot get into the top four or even top three. I really don't see why rival fans seem to think they are still in such a more dominant position than liverpool at the moment.

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08 Oct 2015 22:35:59
Mighty reds, whenever I post on here I always hope your too busy job hunting to bother replying. You can't have sensible chat so why bother?

Bobatron, how do you know what I watch? For your information as a genuine football fan I watch all the premier league games and have seen sakho enough times to make my own judgement. Do we all have to share your views? For me he is like bamby on ice and often gets caught out of position. Plenty of better CB in the league than him

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08 Oct 2015 23:05:35
Thanks for your concern Stand, but I'd rather Sakho than Blind anyday. Also thanks for stating the obvious that we need to work on our defence, don't think any of us knew that

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08 Oct 2015 23:23:02
Where have I skated Klopp? Or been bitter in any way? I've actually commented that you have a very good manager. I'm just saying the side still has improvements needed to win the league. And I stand by that

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{Ed002's Note - The vegetables are restless and embarrassing themselves. Hopeless and embarrassing.}

09 Oct 2015 00:36:49
I appreciate Sakho more at the ground than on the box.
The TV focus just doesn't do him justice. He's regularly in the top 3 performers on match day IMO.

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09 Oct 2015 01:09:20
Suarez WAS a genius. A mad genius, but a genius nonetheless. But the defense also contributed two years ago. Sometimes Martin Skrtel scored one goal for each side, just to be fair about it. Original poster, did you say attack and press cautiously?

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09 Oct 2015 02:52:50
I agree with some of what you said Stand Utd, but I think a part attack/part cautious approach isn't the answer, it's just papering over the cracks.

The reason we conceded so many in 13/14 was Gerrard isn't a DM, our CBs were disorganised and our GK didn't have any confidence stepping off his line (none of which we've fixed apart from perhaps playing Lucas more often) so we were always badly exposed on the break or at set pieces.

We need to play a proper aggressive defensive midfielder (Lucas or even Milner can do a job there IMO but long term would like to see a Carvalho/Kongdogbia/Bender), recruit a new top top GK, and find a CB pairing that works (Lovren or Gomez/Sakho would get my vote but would love to see Hummels) , then go and attack and attack some more! Yes we'll concede but we'll also be more likely to make top 4, enjoy watching the game again and scare the life out of the other top sides, and maybe compete in Europe for a change.

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09 Oct 2015 03:12:13
Thank you, Stand! We'll take it from here.

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09 Oct 2015 09:10:47
Stand, there aren't plaenty of centre backs better than sakho. He might look like bambi on ice but he has one the best ranges of passing of any CB in the premier league ,controls the tempo in defence, and doesn't panic in possession,he reads the game and covers brilliantly when his partners or left back are out if position,I don't know who you have watched,but clearly you haven't watched Sakho if you don't rate him.

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08 Oct 2015 21:05:07
Who do you think will improve the most under Klopp?

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08 Oct 2015 21:12:27
The Football. 😅

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08 Oct 2015 21:16:24
Mignolet

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08 Oct 2015 21:16:55
Everyone

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08 Oct 2015 21:20:32
Emre can is my choice however we may be suprised by some of the players that will up their game especially when played in the right position.

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08 Oct 2015 21:22:37
I think every single one of the players can improve with good management, especially since we have a lot of youngsters. Just a matter of time.

I think the squad overall will be miles better and have much more confidence under Klopp.

I'd like to see more of Rossiter, I believe he can be a right little gem. Hopefully he gets more of a chance.

Markovic and llori I also believe have the potential to be key players for us in the future.

Right now i'd like to see more from every player, this is a new beginning. The players will want to prove they can be starting 11 regulars to Klopp which I'm sure in itself will bring a confident looking squad.

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08 Oct 2015 21:23:17
The results.
No I think the defence will actually be sorted out.

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08 Oct 2015 21:23:19
Benteke and hopefully Firmino

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08 Oct 2015 21:23:39
The fans

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08 Oct 2015 21:24:56
EVERYTHING .

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08 Oct 2015 21:26:22
Benteke, Lovren and Markovic (if or when he returns).

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08 Oct 2015 21:32:11
Let's hope the entire club eh !!

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08 Oct 2015 21:33:06
Firmino

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08 Oct 2015 22:00:00
He scouted Firminho quite extensively so hopefully him. I'd like to see lallana playing with confidence too.

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08 Oct 2015 22:01:06
Going to say Sakho.

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08 Oct 2015 22:35:23
Lallana

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08 Oct 2015 22:35:42
I think Lallana will improve massively, the high pressing game will suit him and he will be allowed to express himself technically. Could be perfect for Lallana.

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08 Oct 2015 19:27:30
I for one am absolutely ecstatic at the prospect of Klopp being manager of Liverpool Football Club. I never envisaged us getting a proven World class manager under the current regime of FSG, but I believe they have realised the most important people to keep on side are the fans and they have delivered exactly what the majority have wanted for quite some time.
I am of the firm belief Klopp and more importantly his backroom staff will utilize the talented squad we have.
The perfect manager for us without doubt. Buzzing about this.
Even his 'interview' on ssn earlier was hilarious. through a intercom. haha.
Surprised Arsenal didn't try steal a March. he was being eyed up to replace Wenger. Joined the Bigger Club. 👍👌

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08 Oct 2015 22:12:38
Ecstatic perfectly sums up how I feel too, I'm gobsmacked to be honest. I am just amazed that he has come to us instead of London, Manchester or Munich. Thank you Jurgen, you've just put Hope in our hearts again.

How about some songs for the new manager? Klopping all over the world, Rock around the Klopp, or the disco classic Don't Klopp till you get enough?

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09 Oct 2015 03:14:15
I'm officially a Kloppite

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08 Oct 2015 18:47:40
United fan in peace, the fact that the fans of many other top clubs, us included were very keen on klopp tells you all you need to know. He's unproven in England but he looks like he has something a bit special about him.
It's a risk but a much more calculated risk than good old brendan.
Really interesting to see how he does with that group of players, I think your squad is similar to the squad Moyes had with us, plenty of average players but some real gems.
Good luck to the bloke as he seems alright but obviously I hope he doesn't do too well!

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08 Oct 2015 19:08:43
So Andy, worried? Lol

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08 Oct 2015 19:30:45
Respect!

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08 Oct 2015 19:40:52
Spot on, u are a vere rare man u gem

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08 Oct 2015 20:00:45
Not many times a Utd fan comes on here and speaks sense, nice one, well done mate.

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08 Oct 2015 20:26:39
Would be pretty cool having this old enemies battling for the top spot again. The others just don't do it the same.

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08 Oct 2015 20:42:17
Yeah! We are the true rivals of English football. These other clubs (they know who they are) are impostors that will soon be deposed.

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08 Oct 2015 21:24:54
Fair play mate

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08 Oct 2015 21:28:43
Not being biased but I think this is a slightly better squad than the one Moyes inherited.
I'm not going to go into detail. Just an opinion.

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08 Oct 2015 18:13:12
Hi,
I know we are all feeling giddy as a kipper. or., a klipper.
It's great news that we have managed to get Klopp in, but let's not get carried away with ourselves.

Of course, he could hit the ground running and power us up the league table, but it could realistically go the other way.

He will inherit a good squad with no identity and backbone.

Here's to our next adventure as lfc fans.
Always an emotional roller coaster, and I love it.😎

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08 Oct 2015 18:43:37
Gee you're a optimist. I'll stick my neck out and say with the squad we have we'll make top 4 with klopp. Finally a manager who will let the players express them selves and who can organise the team. Still need to drop migs.

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08 Oct 2015 18:51:02
The problem is I'm not sure how good the squad actually is

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08 Oct 2015 19:15:02
If you mean backbone as in the middle of the team do we have it? Mignolet sakho Henderson coutinho benteke? Mignolet no, sakho hendo and benteke good, coutinho yes. But is it hart Kompany toure silva aguero good? No chance. All of them would Replace the ones I said maybe except hendo for toure because of age. I'd say we're equal to united with de gea smalling schwein mata Rooney, bar de gea, behind Arsenal with cech koscielny cazorla ozil Sanchez (if played centrally) and Chelsea courtois terry matic fabregas Costa and maybe level with Spurs' lloris vertonghen dier eriksen kane. All teams piss on mignolet, and strikers wise they're all good and have different qualities, Rooney the weakest for me. I feel ours is least established though, as sakho hasn't played much, hendo is injured, benteke is new and mignolet is poor, we need this to improve for me

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08 Oct 2015 19:19:18
It's a squad full of international players, or rising talents. We have cover in every position. Proven goal scorers. We already have a team that has been guided towards pressing like Klopp prefers. We already have hard working high engine players.

Our GK is a bit suspect although he has pulled off many class point saving saves. Will he improve? Maybe.

Otherwise it's good enough

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08 Oct 2015 20:02:57
the squad is easily good enough. We have some weak links for sure but a huge midfield full of some good players and 2-3 good strikers when fit, plus some good youth players. The problem for me is our goalkeeper who I do not think is good enough and I wish illori was free to play in centre with Sakho

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08 Oct 2015 21:14:29
Our squad has always been good enuff. It may need some tweaking but defo good enuff in today`s PL. The main drawback has been removed from our club and hopefully, the players can flourish instead of being put as squre pegs in round holes just to satisfy the ego and fantasies of a manager

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08 Oct 2015 17:39:20
Ed 1 this goes just to you my friend are you excited because I am is rite lad

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{Ed001's Note - Klopp was the man I always wanted, this is better than any Christmas or birthday of my life. The only thing that betters it was the first time I held my daughter after she was born.}

08 Oct 2015 18:41:24
ed001, i feel you man. this changes the game, i have never been more excited about liverpool all my life. I've never seen us lift the premier league, so that should give u an impression of how I've gone through life as a liverpool fan.

im not saying we will win the league, don't get me wrong, but this appointment is the biggest appointment imo, in my life as a liverpool fan.

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08 Oct 2015 18:51:20
Well I can definitely relate to that feeling Ed001 . "the first time I held my daughter after she was born".

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08 Oct 2015 19:27:25
Not sure any of us have seen us lift the premier league unfortunately ;)

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08 Oct 2015 20:04:19
Yep I feel the same Ed01!
For me he was my first pick by a mile even though CA is a great manager something about Klopp just felt right and I think we can maybe start dreaming again!
COME ON YOU REDS!

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08 Oct 2015 20:54:18
I'm 37 & it's the one of the biggest things the club has done in 20 years! All the top 4 teams, Chelsea, Man United, Manchester City and Arsenal, will all most likely be needing new managers within 2 years, and do you not think he would be on the top of ALL their lists? He is a winner, loves the game & had a definite system of playing football. This will suit a lot of our players. No need for huge changes. I'm DELIGHTED!

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08 Oct 2015 19:33:51
Holding your daughter comes second to this T! Lol

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{Ed001's Note - ah how it shows you don't have kids yet! All that firing blanks keeps you safe....}

08 Oct 2015 20:00:57
Ed 001, got to say mate I've watched us win the league European cups ,but I agree with you mate this is as great a feeling I can recall bar the children being born .still not sunk in yet need to see the man on the pitch with the scarf .but get ready for something very very special .he has got that something that not many people have .ask yourself this I don't think there's a team in the prem that would say NO to our new boss .thank you Jurgen klopp for given us this feeling.and you haven't even got there yet.

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{Ed001's Note - it feels like we are on the brink of creating a whole new era of success.}

08 Oct 2015 20:45:23
Nice one ed, so when u and benny going to do a welcome to lfc podcast?

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{Ed001's Note - not sure mate, hopefully soon.}

08 Oct 2015 18:19:43
I'd rather have had Carlo, maybe next summer

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08 Oct 2015 18:32:18
FFS some people are NEVER happy!!!! embrace the flip flop enjoy the moment hahahaahah, this is the start of something great

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08 Oct 2015 18:41:55
i believe LAVERS was being sarcastic.

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08 Oct 2015 20:11:40
Nice one, Lavers!

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08 Oct 2015 22:08:45
Couldn't resist it's all been to positive on here today lol.

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08 Oct 2015 16:06:24
Ed002, what do u want to happen keep Gary and not allow klopp to bring in his men. We need to move forward and that means allowing klopp have full control over his coaching staff.

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{Ed002's Note - See previous answer to Macca. You are not seeing the options available.}

08 Oct 2015 19:36:42
Gary was a fool to take the job under Rodgers in the first place, with the position he was currently in, Klopp was always always going to replace him with his own staff! That's how it happens at every club, let Klopp have his own tools to utilise and see where this adventure takes us! Ed002 lighten up, not very often this site is so positive! ☺

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08 Oct 2015 21:52:03
Thanks for the reply, needless to say we are all looking for to seeing if klopp can take us back to where we belong challenging for trophies. Not since Rafa arrived have we so much to look forward to.

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08 Oct 2015 16:02:39
Hi Ed 02,

Regarding Liverpools treatment of Gary Mac,

Do you not think he knew Brendan was in a difficult situation when he took the job?

And it maybe had the chance of being short lived. (his role).

Genuine question, what do you think they should have done.

Cheers

Macca

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{Ed002's Note - I think the club should have removed Brendan Rodgers in the summer. If there was any expectation that after a handful of games he would have been gone then I would not have changed the other coaching staff. I understand the position taken by Klopp's representatives was that he would have to bring in his own staff - and it is clear that the club have weakly kowtowed to that rather than insisting that he stays to help integrate the new regime. Whilst there will be no language problems, there is still often the problem of expressing particular points in a non-native language. That alone should have been enough to keep him. Additionally, the club should not have offered a year-on-year rolling contract to McAllister if what has happened now was any way on the cards.}

08 Oct 2015 18:23:31
Does anyone know what role he has been offered?

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{Ed002's Note - "Ambassadorial".}

08 Oct 2015 18:52:42
Agree with ed Rodgers should have gone in the summer, but if it meant keeping until now so we could get klopp then so be it.

Also macca of course Gary mac knew the situation as did o Driscoll.

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08 Oct 2015 19:03:07
Also, do you think FSG deliberately didn't sack BR in the summer so that they could do it now? They've probably seen what everybody else has seen this season, that the players aren't playing with commitment or heart, at least not very often - they needed to change it and so they have and if that means recently appointed coaches lose their jobs then so be it. I feel for Gary Mac as he seems to be a good guy and definitely is a legend, but there's a new boss and he, unsurprisingly, wants his own people around him.

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08 Oct 2015 19:22:35
Mmmm not great, shame they couldn't find him a place within the coaching set up. Top bloke who deserves better.

I suppose he was aware there was a risk of this outcome.

It looks like he has taken up the role, just hope he is happy!

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08 Oct 2015 18:40:14
It definitely seams strange to go to all the effort of changing coaching staff just to get rid after not very long but then as macca said, he must of known it could be short lived.

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08 Oct 2015 19:25:31
I've written elsewhere that FSG were probably in a "Klopp or Rodgers" state of mind this past summer. Klopp was not available in the summer. He is available now. So they dumped Rodgers and everything and everyone associated with him. The team is not much worse on the table now than it was at the same time last year, so FSG could have easily waited until Christmas. Heartless, ruthless and merciless? Of course. But that's how it is in all types of high level sports, nowadays.

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08 Oct 2015 19:41:54
Spot on macca! Gary knew he was taking a risk and it proved to be that! Let's wish Klopp luck and hope the glory days aren't too far away! 😉

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08 Oct 2015 19:45:55
I loved GM as a player,but please keep some perspective,he's earnt a mint for a couple of months work,1 yr rolling contract suggests fsg had a good idea this would happen,wish there was a place for him but delighted to welcome Klopp and his team,onwards.

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08 Oct 2015 20:15:01
I knew if a new manager came in, the assistants would be gone. I think BR was kept just because there wasn`t the right manager available and not because they though he could fix his own mistakes because we all know he can`t and won`t. I f i was them, I would have removed him after the Stoke game if not after the Basel or Palace game last November.

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08 Oct 2015 21:25:26
There's plenty of men/women been made redundant/sacked and then not been offered another paid job in the same company eh Ed he's not been treated half as bad as the Dr.

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{Ed002's Note - So you want to make it about Chelsea and further try and embarrass the Liverpool supporters. As I explained to another "supporter", I am sorry that I do have an opinion on this whilst you see McAllister as nothing but sackable fodder. No big deal to me - clearly the "Liverpool legends" are no big deal to you either.}

08 Oct 2015 22:01:50
Macca you're a legend with info you provide on here.

Ed2 - If we'd got rid of BR in the summer was Klopp ready to come to us?

As previous posters have said if getting Klopp meant sacrificing Gary Mac then so be it.

If you were to think of Klopp in player terms we've punched well above our weight in getting him. Blue sky thinking he'd have been most lfc fans' first choice

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{Ed002's Note - Klipperty was taking a year off awaiting the Bayern Munich job. As I have explained that was not forthcoming in a time frame that suited, after turning down four offers he took the Liverpool job.}

09 Oct 2015 05:33:41
Gary Mac and O'Driscoll situation leaves a bad taste in the mouth, no doubt about that.

Did the club even suggest to Klopp that he keep GM on, to smooth things? The value is obvious - Houllier had Phil Thompson, Van Gaal has Giggs, etc.

If they did, and Klopp refused. so be it. Otherwise - a little shabby.

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08 Oct 2015 17:58:58
Who else wishes they could make it to the next home game? Regardless of result the atmosphere will be awesome!!

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{Ed023's Note - It will be a 'proper' European night atmosphere for the first home game}

08 Oct 2015 19:07:39
Can't wait 😃

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08 Oct 2015 19:41:13
To be honest it the first game I won't want to throw me season ticket on th pitch good job a kept hold of it now haha

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08 Oct 2015 17:18:39
Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes .best day for my beloved.liverpool .in a very long time .well done FSG you've done well .wanted klopp for 5 years one word QUALITY .

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08 Oct 2015 17:53:00
3yrs isn't it? Not to p**s on your chips like. Regardless, it's an awesome day and feels like a very bright future

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08 Oct 2015 18:13:00
Rock and Roll Footie, Here We Come!!!

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08 Oct 2015 17:15:47
A VIP has just landed in Liverpool airport on a private plane and gone out the secret exit in 2 people carriers as I type this. The police and press would suggest to me it's Klopp.
Only get that commotion for royalty usually.
Some of the staff here are saying it was Klopp as well to me now as well.
Been ages since I had a proper scoop, enjoy ;)

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08 Oct 2015 17:56:49
It is Klopp, Twitter is swarming with photos of him.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I haven't seen one negative fan, Klopps presence has united us all. I'm looking forward to his passion.

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08 Oct 2015 17:58:22
Thanks Mikey for the scoop!

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08 Oct 2015 17:08:54
First post since the summer and have been biting my tongue hard. Klopp is one of the most promising signings at our club in as long as I can remember. A manager coveted by most teams in world football and he will be a member of our great club. The season now already looks so much more promising.

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08 Oct 2015 16:10:49
Hi eds, how do you think the press conference tomorrow will go? Says on the website it's an announcement. Will it actually be Klopp talking or just someone on behalf of the club officially announcing he's the new manager?

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{Ed023's Note - He will be introduced to the media and then will take questions from the media in attendance}

08 Oct 2015 16:08:00
Other fans 3 weeks ago,,,,

Man city fans: we will never win Ecl with such managers, bring Klopp.

Man u fans: Van Gaal is clueless its time for change, Young is not a defender please we need Klopp,

Arsenal fans: only Klopp can solve our problems,

Chelsea fans: If Mourinho looses two more game we should sack him an bring Klopp.


Just a few days later.

: Klopp has Agreed to join Liverpool.

Some Man u fans: Klopp who?? He is the most overrated coach,, we are better off with Van Gaal,

Some Man city fans; Klopp is another Rodgers in the making, he is not proven, he won title in a simple league,

Some Chelsea fans: this is Epl not bundasliga, Klopp will surely be a flop here,



Karma lol. jealous is baaaaaaaaad

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08 Oct 2015 17:55:56
Lol, they're all plastics. We have secure a top coach, any coach is a gamble but when things have gone a bit sour at those four clubs, yes they've all wanted Klopp. Klopp or Guardiola, that's the standard and bracket he falls into.

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08 Oct 2015 18:16:40
Haters are going to hate. I`m just excited to get a coach who actually cares about the team, if we win or lose and shows passion and emotion when thincs are going right or wrong and who simply knows what he is doing as well as having a track record of winning trophies even against all odds.

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08 Oct 2015 18:18:05
Won a title in a simple league. .it may have only been a 2 horse race but beating bayern to the title is no easy thing.

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08 Oct 2015 20:17:28
If it was such a simple league, why have Bayern and even Dortmund struggled atimes to win it. bayern had to severely up their spending just to keep BVB and Klopp at bay. The German league is a top 3 league in Europe with packed stadiums and attacking footie galore. that`s no simple league.

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08 Oct 2015 20:53:34
Better standard of footie than the premier league at any rate. He will do just fine here.

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08 Oct 2015 16:04:57
Never seen Liverpool Fan this happy before. Klopp seems to be universal choice for LFC. Credit where due to FSG. They are still proving they want success even though they are still giving the money from their pocket, certainly shows they do care.
Thank You FSG. You have made the whole Liverpool Universe happy.

Welcome to Liverpool Football Club
Boss Jurgen Norbert Klopp
YOU WILL NEVER WALK ALONE!!!

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08 Oct 2015 18:09:34
Norbert? Excellent.😀

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08 Oct 2015 20:17:56
Call him, Nobby!

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08 Oct 2015 14:54:22
Great news with the klopp confirmation, finally a managerial appointment that give or take a few, will excite all Liverpool fans, haven't had one since Rafa, much as I wanted KK and was disgusted when he was relieved off his duties, he wasn't universally wanted the way klopp appears to be.

Klopp will be given time and patience by all supporters, he can use the rest of this season to implement his playing style in readiness for next season, were we will really kick on. Exciting times ahead😁.

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08 Oct 2015 15:33:57
You've hit the nail on its head and no doubt, I think the fans deserve this as now when performances go awry at least we'll know the players need to up their game as blaming the manager won't work as he's in my opinion one of the best out there. Not bashing anyone directly but some of the players just ain't good enough.

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08 Oct 2015 15:40:10
Totally agree waro.

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08 Oct 2015 16:26:30
So happy it's unreal, I don't think I have ever been this excited about a manager joining us.

Under Rodgers we had nothing to look forward to, we was going nowhere. it's about time we had a good manager in, it's giving me new hope. I think he will be brilliant.

Can't wait to see him signing up.

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08 Oct 2015 16:39:49
Has a Waro post ever got universal agrees??!!

Completely agree, however! A real 'fan-uniter'

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08 Oct 2015 16:49:39
You're all excited. I have been sitting here tracking klopps plane😂😂

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08 Oct 2015 16:55:06
Waro sums up the fanbase in his post.

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08 Oct 2015 17:15:26
I agree entirely. A manager at last to get the juices flowing. I wouldn't completly rule out something happening this season tho. Its early enough yet. You never know, maybe a good couple of cup runs. A new manager sholud always bring added enthusiasm to the players to get that extra 10%. Exciting times indeed.

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08 Oct 2015 17:34:19
That's exactly it Waro, last time I felt this way was when we got Rafa

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08 Oct 2015 16:08:56
I didn't think this question was worth its own thread, so if you don't mind me hijacking and asking Ed002 what the Dortmund supporters think of this move? I'd assume they're glad that Bayern haven't got their hands on him?

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{Ed002's Note - I am sure that the Dortmund supporters will be supportive and wish him well, unless the clubs meet of course. If he were to start picking away at a couple of players, which potentially he could do, then they will not be so pleased. I have a colleague who is, like Klipperty, a Mainz fan. I will ask him.}

08 Oct 2015 18:16:10
What juices are those Irish rover lol.

I'm made up finally FSG ended the nightmare of the last year and a bit.

The squad we have is good enough for top 4 this year so bring it on.

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08 Oct 2015 20:30:36
Waro is spot on. I haven`t been this excited about a coaching appointment at LFC in years. Klopp is just a brilliant manager and even a better human being based on what i`ve read about him. he hates losing and always wants to win. you don`t win titles and humiliate giants like Bayern, Real and Arsenal with a shoe string budget if you are clueless or out of your depth as a manager.

The man can coach football and has the track record to prove it. At last after three managers, FSG has given us a manager who has a winning mentality, knows what it takes to win against the odds and who knows what he is doing.

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08 Oct 2015 14:33:04
Klopp agrees to become our new manager according to SSN. Staying in the city over the next couple of days.

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08 Oct 2015 17:27:02
We are the Kloppites, the famous Kloppites.

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08 Oct 2015 13:59:15
Cant help when seeing Blatter and Platini on the box it's like an episode of the Sopprano's, hope they enjoy prison food sometime soon with the shabby way they have treated our beloved game.

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08 Oct 2015 16:07:44
Blatter is just your common garden politician, enjoying the control of vast sums of money without accountability.

Platini, however, is utterly loathsome. Remember him prancing around the field on Heysel gleefully holding up a trophy while dead people were being carried out?

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08 Oct 2015 16:25:36
I agree. finally it's getting dealt with. having said that earlier I turned on SSN and it mentioned about them, then briefly said 'and stay tuned for the latest info on klopp as we go live to anfield' then they rabbited on about fifa for 20 mins, must of been the longest 20 mins of my life.

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08 Oct 2015 18:11:26
What is incredible is that it's taken 40 years for the "rot" to be caught and dealt with. It started with Havelange in the mid 70's and it's been going on without end. They deserve life terms behind bars for the way they have corrupted the planet's most popular game.

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08 Oct 2015 13:57:35
Well I hope that there are no late minute hitches now as we have dispensed with a lot of the back room staff in readiness for Klopps arrival.
A feel sympathy with O'Driscoll and of course Gary Mac, they could do little to stem the tide that BR caused in team selection etc.
Perhaps Gary Mac may accept a lesser role but wouldn't be surprised to see him leave completely rather than be "demoted" after such little time

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08 Oct 2015 14:45:05
No sympathy for SO'D or Gary Mac. They've been here 5 minutes, they'll get a good pay off no doubt. It's the nature of football and they know that.
Delighted the coaching decks are being cleared. There are major deficiencies in our coaching - set pieces attacking and defending, goalkeeper, fitness.
If we are addressing these then there is genuine hope.

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08 Oct 2015 15:31:56
i think the no sympathy parts a bit harsh, they were only just brought in and had no chance working under an inept manager to help with things such as the defending etc, they would have been kept on if ancelloti came in i'm sure, i am chuffed klopp has signed and is taking his team as this is what a successful manager needs i just think its harsh to say they don't deserve sympathy for being sacked for something that wasnt their fault!

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08 Oct 2015 16:05:31
I don't post a lot to be honest, but I swear there was a time I thought and actually believed Ron Keague was a pseudonym for Brendan Rodgers!

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08 Oct 2015 17:34:53
Sean o'driscoll is well renowned and will be back in work no time.

Gary Mac has been offered another role at the club i believe, can't see why he wouldn't accept.

Would be made up if fowler got a more significant role like he said he wants.

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08 Oct 2015 20:32:50
Spot on, Nosky! Ron is now acting as if he knew BR would get the sack thinking we all have forgotten his pathetic and shamless arguments he came up with to defend him. History can only be hidden. It cannot be rewritten.

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08 Oct 2015 13:32:58
Does anyone else get jim parsons voice in their he'd when they read ed002s replies ? it make it so much better

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08 Oct 2015 14:31:25
Haha I thought I was the only one.

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08 Oct 2015 14:52:43
Joe Pasquale?

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08 Oct 2015 15:12:45
I swear I get Stewie Griffin. love that little scamp ;)

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08 Oct 2015 16:24:48
Nobody else read it in Dolly Partons voice?

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08 Oct 2015 17:47:00
Posh radio 4 lady for me.

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08 Oct 2015 17:19:45
I now get joe pasquali for 001 since the podcasts

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08 Oct 2015 13:27:56
I know a lot of the talk ha centralised around our league performance and whether we can get top 4. Personally I'd love to see us have a really good go at the Europa cup.

In terms of squad value and depth ours is the strongest right now (before champions league drop outs).

We've always been recognised as a team that plays well in Europe however in the last 5 years we've really lost that big one and the UEFA ratings reflect that.

Let's regain the Liverpool identity which has been lost for too long.

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08 Oct 2015 13:27:51
I'm happy to hang myself out to dry here but I must be one of the only posters who is not desperate for Mignolet to be replaced. Excellent shot-stopper, quick out of his box and knows how to give his defenders a roasting (god knows, they need it regularly). His distribution is poor and he is not commanding when the ball is crossed but a decent gk coach should be able to improve both of those issues.
For me, he has the fundamentals but needs some refining and a dose of confidence. He's no Shilton but has kept us in a few games we deserved to lose this season and I'd be happy to see him stay and improve.
I'll duck behind the table now.

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08 Oct 2015 13:33:57
Couldn't disagree more with everything. He's a good shot stopper, nothing more. Also I think the very definition of any keeper ever is to have the ability to stop the ball go into the net. At this level you need to have way more about your game, in terms of giving the defenders a roasting you'll often find that screaming is more a sign of incompetence than competence.

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08 Oct 2015 13:41:54
Well allow me to lob a grenade over the table.

I always have a real problem with goalkeepers being described as an excellent shot stopper. That's his job. It's his reflexes at times that are impressive however that all seems to be when things are quite close to him.

He has got quicker at coming out of his box but I still wouldn't be calling him the Belgium Neuer. For me he still dithers too much. I'd don't think his decision making is particularly very good.

His communication is appalling. For me he simply does not command that box. He should be inspiring confidence in his centre backs not draining them of it.

I just have a feeling with Mignloet for every worldie he makes he will concede one where you just shake your head and go "should have done better".

There is no doubt certain aspects of his game could be improved but I personally don't believe he will ever be a top goalkeeper. I would love him to prove me wrong. He certainly isn't getting any help from Achterberg though.

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08 Oct 2015 14:22:16
You don't know what he screams though, I doubt it's that useful else they may have leant by now, it looks more like 'come on.' I'm not sure how much notice they will take anyway

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08 Oct 2015 14:42:07
Ed001 has got it nailed on about Mignolet.

His analysis is exactly right IMO

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08 Oct 2015 15:38:01
He's professional football player that can't kick a football. That in itself is a disgrace in todays game.

In all seriousness your GK should be there as a reliable way out when defenders are being pressed but you can see no one wants to pass back to him unless its a last resort which just breeds panic in the defence!

Additionally he refuses to deal with crosses (blindly attempting a flailing punch doesn't count), hesitates in coming off his line, won't even command the 6 yard box let alone his whole area and has no communication skills whatsoever (shouting at people after making a save isn't communication). Simply put he's a liability not an asset

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08 Oct 2015 16:36:05
The modern keeper needs many more attributes than shot-stopping.

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08 Oct 2015 13:24:31
Any one fed up of the same posts over and over. Topic: would Jorden Rhodes make it as a premiership striker???

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08 Oct 2015 13:40:24
No.

Now let's get back to Klopp

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08 Oct 2015 14:46:24
Never heard of him, but Jordan Rhodes won't make it because he is too slow.
That's the step up from Championship to Premiership.

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08 Oct 2015 14:55:46
I hope klopp goes for him he's my favourite player!

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07 Oct 2015 14:13:27
Hi,

Question for Ed001. I for one would love to hear Ed001 explanation and opinion on Klopp's tactical, 4-2-3-1 'gegenpressing'. Is it the same as the pressing game that we saw in 13/14 season? Do you think that it will be effective in our league?

I'm really looking forward to see how players like Benteke, Sturridge, Coutinho, Ings, Firmino, Hendo and especially Teixeira perform under Klopp.

Thanks mate :)

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{Ed001's Note - it is closest in style to the Pochettino style that Spurs are using. High press, sweeper keeper, try and box the opposition in their own half, but then a quick drop off if the ball is not won back quickly to take up standard defensive positions. He also uses the trigger system Rodgers did during those 6 months when we actually played well, in that the players are given cues to look for to push the press again. Things such as poor control or a loose pass will see a press for a few seconds before dropping back into defensive positions.

The most important thing is really how it is used to attack, because the ball is being won back higher up the pitch, usually, with the opposition out of position, the idea is to hit hard and fast before your opponent has time to get set up properly.}

08 Oct 2015 13:52:21
Thanks for the detailed response ed, just thinking about this new set up will greatly improve the effectiveness of our new beast of a striker benteke, after all I remember how effective he used to be on the quick counter (especially against us) pace, power and an option of a 1st time ball whipped in, exiting times

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{Ed001's Note - so long as he remembers to play his part in the pressing, which is something he has struggled with in the past. A high press requires all the players to work hard. Carrying passengers will lead to gaps.}

08 Oct 2015 14:25:11
Ideally in our best team of all fit I'd play hendo Lucas coutinho And two of Ings benteke and Sturridge. That leaves a position for ibe/firmino in some games and Milner/can in others for me.

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08 Oct 2015 14:47:28
Think he'll go one up top which means Sturridge and Benteke will have to share.

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08 Oct 2015 15:27:55
its called heavy metal football lads and i for one can't wait to see it being played at anfield! Klopp to Liverpool who would of thought it amazing and good on FSG for getting it done and shout out to the EDS and MAcca for breaking the news like last week! who need SSN when we have this website!

on a sour note i do feel sorry for o'driscoll and Mcallister i agree with ed2 on that bit were Mcallister should walk away as they have been treated badly, if FSG were more decisive Klopp could have come in last summer and Rodgers gone! least they got it right eventually but at a cost.

Klopp welcome to LFC going to be great to watch a real manager make Lfc roar again!

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08 Oct 2015 15:31:12
Hi ED001 in your opinion would be the best Liverpool players for a 4-5-1 formation?

Thank you,

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{Ed001's Note - I think an answer to that would require a separate thread on the teams and formation page mate. If I answer it here the page will just get clogged up with formations, at least until the Klipperty announcement.}

08 Oct 2015 16:59:59
ed01, I actually thought Klopp steered away from the gegenpressing in his last season at dortmund since it was too taxing on the players. Your thoughts? (don't mind my username)

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{Ed001's Note - he did at times yes, against the weaker teams he tried to play a less physically tiring game which was why they struggled. The feeling around the club was it wore out the players, but I have never seen any evidence that it true. If they are getting tired then they simply aren't fit enough. The work a footballer goes through is nothing compared to those in solo sports, such as tennis, yet they also play less often than say a tennis player. The issue with footballers is their lifestyle, very few live like athletes and so they are simply not as fit as they should be. A player like Nedved would stay behind after training to practice, then go home and train in his gym, and he never suffered with burnout etc. It is utter crap to excuse laziness if you ask me, this burnout stuff. It is mentality that is letting them down. That is fine for someone in a factory, to go out on the lash and then not work at full capacity, they can get away with it, or to be out all night sleeping around whatever, and then have a bad day at the office the following day. In football players get away that when the style of football is less hectic and slower paced, but they can't do that when they are playing a fast paced game or the lack of professionalism catches up on them. So I have no sympathy when they are tired. Plus the manager has a squad at his disposal, if players really are suffering then rest them and play a back up. It is a good way to give kids a chance.}

08 Oct 2015 18:03:08
Thank you for your time replying to my question ED001.

How are you reacting to the news?

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{Ed001's Note - still grinning like a loon and getting ready for all my xmases to come at once.....}

08 Oct 2015 13:12:55
Who here has sky sports on all day while keeping this site open AND googling klopps name ever 10 mins for news, or is it just me ?

Also when rumours of a player supposedly signed drags abit we say move on look elsewere, no its klopp its just wait hang in there. Fair to say he's already a big hit here :)

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08 Oct 2015 13:24:04
The same for me mate, still can't believe it till its on the official site :-)

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{Ed002's Note - The chap I mentioned yesterday has gone from London to Liverpool this morning - so everything should be completed very soon in respect of Klipperty.}

08 Oct 2015 13:32:34
You just made me even more impatient ed😂😂 I have googled klopp about 500 times over the week

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08 Oct 2015 13:38:33
It's like an addiction for me! Lol. On here all the time. got sky on now just waiting. Driving back 2 essex shortly and making Mrs drive so I can keep an eye on events! Let's just be ultra positive. klopp will be class but it's not going to be instant success and I for one want to hear anfield roar again! YNWA

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08 Oct 2015 12:55:54
new poster to this absolutely addictive site, have been visiting for a few years now and its by far the most accurate source of info for us reds, congrats to the eds for the superb jobs you do,
I for one cannot wait for Klopp, his enthusiastic and love for the game with match us reds.
YNWA

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08 Oct 2015 12:53:44
Hello everyone is John acherberg still at the club?

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08 Oct 2015 13:24:27
Heard he's gone

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08 Oct 2015 14:48:13
Marvellous!

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08 Oct 2015 12:44:43
O'Driscoll, Driscoll, Mcallister and Davies also havr been sacked.
Seems it's finally happening. But not going to believe anything until I see the official announcement. Three years of ayre have made me like this 😥

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08 Oct 2015 13:01:54
Gary Mac been offered another position at the club though.

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08 Oct 2015 13:12:53
Ljinders is staying right?

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08 Oct 2015 13:24:49
Pip is staying

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08 Oct 2015 13:07:54
McCallister is considering another role at the club,according to sky, anyone have an idea what it is?

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08 Oct 2015 13:36:07
Ljinders is staying. McAllister has been offered a subordinate role with the youth bur whether or not he accepts it it remains to be seem

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08 Oct 2015 12:36:00
Sorry guys slight delay today he got off the plane and had his potatoe skin fueled motorbike waiting but it died. probably because someone filled it with Aldi or Lidl potatoe skins but anyway the AA are on the way to the rescue be patient

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08 Oct 2015 11:18:33
Eds am I suspended or under some ban? I'm not seeing half my posts, none of which are detrimental to others, you guys or our club?

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{Ed033's Note - No you're not banned. Your posts could be on the Other Posts page. Lots of posts are going on that page now. Please use the contact form at the bottom of this page for this type of query.

08 Oct 2015 12:38:13
Should be banned tho talk crap 😂😎

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{Ed002's Note - I would have deleted the posts about Twitter and anything that was palpable nonsense.}

08 Oct 2015 11:40:34
Is he? or isn't he? Is he definitely coming or is he just forcing bayern munich hand? See rumours now that pep has agreed deal with man City so now bayern have no manager fo next season. Hope these rumours are someone putting 2 + 2 together and coming up with 5. Imagine what a laughing stock we'd be.

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{Ed002's Note - I explained all of this yesterday.}

08 Oct 2015 12:25:52
He is coming and will be announced today or tomorrow.

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08 Oct 2015 11:35:43
Good and Fair Article ed23.

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08 Oct 2015 11:28:48
Hi all,

One for Ed002 really if you are around.

When Rodgers was brought in you said that it would all end in tears, then when Mario arrived you said the same thing.

Do you envisage such moistened cheeks with the appointment of Klopp or are you a bit more positive this time round?

Cheers

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{Ed002's Note - Klipperty is a fine coach but as I have said it doesn't seem to be the perfect fit for me. I don't think it will end in tears and I think he will do pretty well - but I do suspect it will periodically be a bit of a bumpy ride.}

08 Oct 2015 11:50:41
Would you say that comes from the need to get players fit enough to cope with his style?

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{Ed002's Note - The players should be fit enough. They are kiddies running around in the fresh air all of the time. As long as they are taking their regular naps they will be fine.}

08 Oct 2015 12:27:16
Will Klipperty being joining Sparky as promised Ed002? I think Sparky would love Klipperty as a pet.

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{Ed002's Note - Klipperty has been interviewed this morning and it is expected that Sparky will be making a formal announcement later today. Word is Kirikou is very much looking forward to giving Klipperty a full body wax. As a welcoming gift, "Mister Ed: The Complete Series" has been ordered to help make Klipperty feel at home.}

08 Oct 2015 11:25:40
Hello Ed, if you guys are free, if there any chance you can name some goal keepers to keep an eye on as I am struggling to see any good keeper beside the likes of Trapp and butland who won't be moving soon?

Your answer will be highly appreciated even though I know you have been busy by whole Klopp posts!

Cheers!

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{Ed002's Note - Fabian Giefer might be a little older but is well respected and only in the reserves at Schalke. Vlachodimos has a stupid enough haircut for Liverpool. Courtois of course. Mattia Perrin remains well thought of, as is Gudino of Porto. Karius of Klipperty's club is certainly seen in good light as are Zacharie Boucher, Horn, Carlgren, ter Stegen, and Oblak.}

08 Oct 2015 11:45:09
Vlachidimos it is then 😎

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08 Oct 2015 12:50:24
J.Cillisen, B.Leno, M.Ryan and our own D.Ward are also young goalkeepers who are performing well this season.

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08 Oct 2015 13:20:13
Meant to say this year*

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08 Oct 2015 14:12:01
Matt Ryan is struggling at Valencia and is their 2nd choice 'keeper now though I expect him to slowly become the first choice over the next few years.

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{Ed001's Note - Ryan is awful. I don't get how he even got the move to Valencia, one of the most overrated keepers around. Very flashy, makes easy stuff look great but can't do the actual good saves and his positioning is scarily bad at times. Unlike Migs he does not have footwork issues, where Migs is desperately avoiding using his feet at all times, so ends up diving down full length to stop a ball with his hands he could have dealt with easily with his feet, Ryan is just a showpony. It is all for the cameras, rather than just about doing the right thing simply and cleanly. If he was an outfield player he would be one of those non-league wingers doing 45 stepovers before falling flat on his face.}

08 Oct 2015 15:42:08
Cheers Ed!
Appreciate your hard work!
God bless you all!
Question to Ed01, who do you think is perfect fit for gengenpressing?
I mean for us of course.

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{Ed001's Note - the players we have suit it mate, the only reason to worry would be if their attitude wasnt right.}

07 Oct 2015 21:36:50
Would just like to say I really enjoyed Ed23's article, well written and summed up Rodger's tenure well. Well done. ;)

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{Ed023's Note - Thank you}

08 Oct 2015 11:46:37
yeah ill second that. thanks for your time Ed23

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07 Oct 2015 11:21:10
Hi ed001

Would just like to ask if you have any concerns about klopp? Like if his high tempo system & training will burn players out considering we play a lot more games here, & the fact that at both Mainz & Dortmund he followed a couple very good seasons with pot seasons.

I would have felt safer with Carlo at the helm, so why is it you prefer klopp over him?

Thanks

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{Ed001's Note - I have more concern over his attempts to change away from the press slightly over his final season. The high tempo and training does not burn players out, if anything they are not training hard enough. Those that do need a short break, well that is why you have a squad and it should be seen as an opportunity to give a youngster experience.

I prefer Klopp because he is more suited to the personality of the club.}

08 Oct 2015 11:17:14
Ed01 I agree totally about him being more suited to personality of club. While your about could you do me a favour and give your shout to the youth players that you think will or you think should be given more game time. I know you have said before but wondered if any other players have be peaking well

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{Ed001's Note - other than the obvious, Chirivella, Rossiter and Teixeira, I would like to see Harry Wilson given a shot. While he is not playing to the level he was a while back, I think that sometimes youth players need a carrot to entice them to raise their game, rather than just a stick when they are not performing well. The experience would do him good and we lack a proper first team left winger to really spread the play and open up the centre.}

08 Oct 2015 10:19:48
I for one am not taking any quick glory for granted. Klopp has always built his team. His team are generally a work horse. Basically, 11 hendersons. What we can take for granted are crazy celebrations, coach shouting at his players instead of writing songs in his notes. Tactics, proper substitution and proper brand of football. He wouldn't sign player until he watch them play and thinks they are what he need to improve his system of playing instead of judging them by statistics.

Do we have squad that could potentially break into top4? Yes, certainly. Only problem is its an unbalanced squad. Too many identical players that needs to be played in their not so favourable positions. Only one of Hendo/ Milner/ Allen could play as. Box to box midfielder and the obvious choice is Hendo. Four striker where manager fancy one at top that means Sturridge might well be sacrificed as Right winger. One of Lallana/ coutinho/ Firmino needs to be sacrificed and there is neglected Texeira who is as good as Lallana waiting on the wings. Well, that's a headache any manager will want as it is supposed to give squad a depth. At the back, oh well we all know about our defence.

Does he need time? The likes of Milner, lallana, Ings, hendo, Coutinho, Can, Firmino are the one that may suits his style of play but how to play them all? Anyone expecting an immediate glory are in for disappointment. The club needs uplift right from academy where the players are being loaned without any purpose or plans for future and there are many talents that are being wasted while average players are being overpaid. Saying that play diamond if you want to make full use of striker at disposal, play players on proper position and we shall be fine for this season. What else can uplift the player and its management when a world class manager is willing to take over? If players are as excited and motivated as the LFC fan base are, the future is in good hand.

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08 Oct 2015 11:07:41
in relation to the manager favouring one striker. i like to think that good coaches adapt to what they have, and make the best decision based on the squad available to him. just my 2 cents.

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08 Oct 2015 13:19:38
play Coutinho LAM/LW, Firmino CAM/CF, Benteke ST and Sturridge just off Benteke to the right at RF. The box to box mid on that side(Henderson) and Clyne can cover the space at RM.

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{Ed002's Note - This needs to be taken to the team page.}

08 Oct 2015 09:15:44
I wanted to get you opinion on the problem areas in our team what you would do and the players you would like to see fill those places. Defensive midfield and central defence. Would Gary Medel still be your choice? Also is he out of our reach or a player that is attainable if we were to make a move. With defence I think Sakho and Gomez/Llori when back would be pretty strong but again would like your thoughts.

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{Ed002's Note - Gomez might be ready to play as a centre back in a year or two, but he isn't ready at EPL level right now. Ilori has only played a handful of games in total over the past two year s and none for Liverpool at all. What makes you so convinced he'd be so suitable to step in?}

08 Oct 2015 09:56:44
Imo the 2 first things klopp will identify is that we have an awful Goalkeeper and we lack a real passer of the ball in midfield.

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08 Oct 2015 09:58:47
I reckon Klopp might try and do for Can what he did for Hummels. Hummels was a defensive midfielder and Klopp turned him into a centre back.
Sakho will be his partner at the back.
Lucas as defensive midfield with Hendo/Milner alongside.

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08 Oct 2015 10:02:31
Stick with the current pairing for now, not the best with skrtel but it's better than throwing in young untested players

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08 Oct 2015 10:04:11
I am not convinced but if we don't give them a chance we will never know. I like Sakho, just need to find a good partner for him. Gomez might not be ready as a centre back and he might perform well if given the chance. Llori has looked decent when on loan and also in the under 21's again completely different to cutting it in the league. If those two are not ready, which again nothing has suggested otherwise I would say we need to go and buy a defender, who that is I don't know as Lovren and Martin are simply not good enough.

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08 Oct 2015 08:59:35
There's a lot of people saying our squad isn't good enough and if klopp comes in he's got a lot of rebuilding to do.
Is it just me then who thinks we've got a good squad that under the right management should have no reason not to challenge for top 4 and good cup runs?
There are positions that need looking at yes, mostly we need a strong confident keeper, but in general with the squad we have surely we have enough to push for top four.
Seems al lot of people on here and pundits would replace most of our team.
Quite surprised at the to be honest

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08 Oct 2015 09:06:16
A keeper and a strong organiser at the back. Possibly a top defensive midfielder and we're done. When you look at the squad it's amazing we've been so bad!

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08 Oct 2015 09:15:26
yep I said the same thing a few days ago. People were, for all the right reasons saying not to expect top four under new manager and maybe we won't get it but our squad is good enough, certainly big enough and we will soon have a top manager

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08 Oct 2015 09:21:04
Lifelongred I agree if we can get a new keeper sort the defence out, personally would player Sakho and Gomez/Llori and get a good defensive midfielder Medel or Lars Bender then I think we are on our way. We actually have good players that just need to perform and be played in their natural positions. Also if Sturridge stays fit in the high press system should get a few goals this season.

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08 Oct 2015 09:27:35
We are 3 points off 4th place after playing at Old Trafford and the Emirates.
Our play has been poor but results wise we are already challenging for top 4.
It's not a big ask to get us in the top 4 IMO.

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08 Oct 2015 11:54:48
Completely agree lads. for strength in depth I think it's the best position we've been in years. also should be the guts of 20 games before the transfer window so plenty of time for players to make a stake and hopefully at this point klopp should have a clear idea of what is needed/what he wants so I think there's a lot of positives!

White Hart lane could be perfect first match also as we've seen them struggle against a high press and it could also be a open game and with our recent good form there I'm quietly thinking a win!

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08 Oct 2015 13:27:02
a winger would also help

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08 Oct 2015 08:52:09
Morning Eds and Reds.

With the exciting news about Jurgen Klopp only hours away, i read a report being put out by Bild that FSG have told Klopp that he must work with Sean'O Driscell and Gary Mac. I don't see how this would benefit Klopp and are Fenway already setting him up to fail?

Was wondering if the Eds could shed some light on the matter

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{Ed002's Note - I really don't know what FSG has told Klopp in respect of the extant staff.}

08 Oct 2015 09:04:37
I'd advise you to stop believing what bild are writing

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08 Oct 2015 09:14:47
Das Bild makes The Sun look intellectual.

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08 Oct 2015 09:22:31
Load of rubbish mate

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08 Oct 2015 10:01:28
Cheers Reds and Eds i would hope that he gets his choice in staff. i feel for gary mac though if he does get the boot as he is an Anfield Legend

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08 Oct 2015 08:43:08
So, who's going to post the first 'Klopp spotted at John Lennon" (or similar) then?!

Any Ancelotti lookalikes spotted near transport hubs??

I'm so excited!!

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08 Oct 2015 09:10:17
Just spotted klopp getting off plane at John Lennon airport

Was using my binoculars and squinting my eyes while standing on a step ladder on my roof here in Limerick but I'm sure it was him

:D

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08 Oct 2015 09:15:58
There is a Klopp spotted buying an Audi in Liverpool rumour already.

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08 Oct 2015 09:34:06
I doubt he will be flying easy jet

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08 Oct 2015 09:38:43
theres reports of him buying a car at a dealership online lol

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08 Oct 2015 09:43:11
I have just seen Jurgen Klopp's brother Klippity on Breck Road.

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08 Oct 2015 06:41:52
hey eds, will Klopp be bringing his own staff with him? Because Bild are saying we're insisting on he keep Gary Mac and O'driscoll. Hopefully it isn't true, because that would be disastrous to force people on to him whom he doesn't want.

Thanks in advance.

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{Ed002's Note - Klopp comes as part of a package, so yes.}

08 Oct 2015 09:19:41
Oh thank you for putting my mind at ease ed! I was getting worried we might do something liverpool like and blow this lol. Have a great day!

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08 Oct 2015 07:47:38
There's a lot of talk on here about what we can or can't achieve. My opinion is that the biggest issue for the incoming manager is not the quality of players at his disposable, it's the fact that he will have to deal with a squad that lacks balance. Over the course of the next year I think we will continue to see players playing out of position, because the new manager doesn't have much choice. On a positive note I do believe that Klopp can achieve more with our current squad then Rodgers could

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