Liverpool Banter Archive January 09 2011

 

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09 Jan 2011 23:51:51
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- - - - - - - - - - Pepe Reina

G Johnson Martin Kelly Martin Skrtel Fábio Aurélio
- - - - - - - - - - Lucas

- - - - - - - Joe cole - Raul Meireles
- - - - - - - - - - Maxi Rodríguez

- - - - - - Dirk Kuyt - Fernando Torres

Liverpool will be playing a compact diamont in midfield

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09 Jan 2011 23:50:58
09 Jan 2011 23:44:39
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09 Jan 2011 23:23:17
In response to. . . .

09 Jan 2011 21:08:28
Did anyone see Fergie on the touch line at all today? I didn't, or hardly like he normally is. . scared KK would make him look a fool, KK too bright for that whiskey guzzling clown who's only made to look good by Sky Sports and London media. Could be wrong but that's my thoughts.
Anyway after reading a few posts saying it was rubbish, give KK a break. . he's had probably 1 hour with the team since coming back from Dubia, anyway it looked loads better than previous games under RH, also taking into account being 1-0 due to diving and then 10 men so finishing the game 1-0 was not bad. the only way scum was going to score was by trying to dive again for another penalty!

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SAF hardly ever stands on the touch line he stays seated throughout the match, maybe the Ed clarify this? it sounds to me like sour grapes.

Ed. . . any chance of this being posted as my posts never seem to get through?

{editor: Every chance of it been posted.}

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In repsonce to the above post: -

Is this a post from another Manure fan on LFC site? ?

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Ed just posted this for the rumours page, where I cut and pasted the two comments from! Why has it not been posted onto rumour page instead you have edited it to the banter page?

red deano YNWA {ed's note - none of it should have been posted to the rumour page, it was a mistake, should all of been put on the banter page. It has been a long day sorry!}

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09 Jan 2011 23:44:39
Liverpool Rumours
09 Jan 2011 23:23:17
In response to. . . .

09 Jan 2011 21:08:28
Did anyone see Fergie on the touch line at all today? I didn't, or hardly like he normally is. . scared KK would make him look a fool, KK too bright for that whiskey guzzling clown who's only made to look good by Sky Sports and London media. Could be wrong but that's my thoughts.
Anyway after reading a few posts saying it was rubbish, give KK a break. . he's had probably 1 hour with the team since coming back from Dubia, anyway it looked loads better than previous games under RH, also taking into account being 1-0 due to diving and then 10 men so finishing the game 1-0 was not bad. the only way scum was going to score was by trying to dive again for another penalty!

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SAF hardly ever stands on the touch line he stays seated throughout the match, maybe the Ed clarify this? it sounds to me like sour grapes.

Ed. . . any chance of this being posted as my posts never seem to get through?

{editor: Every chance of it been posted.}

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In repsonce to the above post: -

Is this a post from another Manure fan on LFC site?? ?

red deano YNWA

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09 Jan 2011 23:39:04
Pepe Reina The Spaniard made some good saves in those moments in the second half when United sought to soothe the crowd's nerves with a second goal. 7

Martin Kelly Brought into the side for Glen Johnson, whose wife had gone into labour, he played well enough to give Kenny Dalglish a difficult decision when the team go to Blackpool on Wednesday. 6

Daniel Agger Liverpool harboured a deep sense of injustice about the penalty but, whatever the villainy of Berbatov's tumble, Agger should have known better than to flick out his foot. Solid afterwards but a big error. 6

Martin Skrtel A strong performance from the centre-half even if there were times when he found Berbatov an elusive opponent. 7

Fábio Aurélio Liverpool supporters will always prefer to see him at left-back rather than Paul Konchesky and it is a pity for Dalglish that the Brazilian has such a prolific injury record. 7

Dirk Kuyt The usual hard work and application but what Liverpool really needed was someone in midfield with the ability to play the killer pass. 6

Raul Meireles The only Liverpool player on the pitch to be signed by Roy Hodgson, his impact was minimal, often on the edges of the game. 5

Lucas He, like Kuyt, can be guaranteed to cover a lot of ground but there are still reservations about his ability on the ball. 6

Maxi Rodríguez: Liverpool's right-sided midfielder had their only genuine chance of the first half but there was very little else from him before his withdrawal. 5

Steven Gerrard Gerrard's competitive qualities have helped make him a formidable player but on this occasion he let down his team. 4

Fernando Torres The expectation was of a player who would be rejuvenated now Roy Hodgson has gone, yet Torres disappointed again, both in his performance and in his body language, and it speaks volumes he was substituted when Liverpool needed a goal. 5

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09 Jan 2011 23:37:10
Liverpool Rumours
Hi ed
Dont want to sound ignorant but who is matthew thompson he just txt a while ago bout the saurez rumour saying we made contact wit him, r to matthw himself who are ya and ur contacts, sorry if i sound out of order thanx
Fagan81

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09 Jan 2011 23:36:19
Good performance today, pity about the sending off result may have different. Torres looked slow and not interested again, babel looked good when he came on hopefully he will start more games and show what he can actually do. one last thing in my mind sammy lee has to go as well and hopefully bring in Wilkins he is a quality number 2.

* Im not sure really how Torres is supposed to look interested when for the most part this season he has had to wait for balls hoofed up field to him in the hope that one might just hit the right area! and today when it looked like we might be back to our old selves Stevie goes and gets himself sent off, leaving a huge gaping hole with no one filling in to be the feeder to Torres. (tho Shelvy looks a great prosepect and may get a few games with Stevie banned for 3). Continually having a go at Torres isn't going to help get him back to his best, we need to keep supporting him, sing his name and let him know we beleive in him. then maybe he will start to believe again and with Dalglish's tactics now more positive and attacking. we might just find we have a world beating number one striker again!
And i agree, id take Wilkins of Lee any day. Nice guy Sammy but useless coach!*

ItsNotRocketScience

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09 Jan 2011 23:34:55
Ed what do you know about Jordi Alba?? {ed's note - not a lot, Valencia left winger, seemed quick and skilful, but I have only seen him a couple of times. I did take note of him though as one to keep an eye out for.}
well just looked on you tube and he does not seem bad . just heard a little rumble about him maybe nothing . but yes one to keep an eye on i do think :)

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09 Jan 2011 23:29:36
Liverpool Rumours
Sorry for intruding on your site guys, but youv'e been
had 2day by the ref!
I'm a complete neutral(b'pool fan) I feel cheated that
because of Webb, I'm gonna miss the chance to see
one of the best midfielders in the world on Wed
night! yellow card at most! IMO! Positive is Kenny
looks and sounds up for it!
Anyway, Worst of look for Wed, But best of look for
rest of the season!

Morty

{editor: No problem for intruding! Thanks for your opinion.}

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09 Jan 2011 23:14:30
There is no messing with kenny in charge, ALL the players will soon realise that no one is bigger than the club( and that includes himself!) and that it is an honour to set foot on the pitch in the liverpool fc colours, everyone is a collective, throughout the club and the fans alike, and the heart and soul of the liverpool team depends upon this and anyone not embracing this need not be part of it, players or fans alike.
here's to the liverpool way, forward together as the invincible force!
ynwa

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09 Jan 2011 23:07:44
Liverpool Rumours
Kennytollah anyone? That would be a sight to see!

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09 Jan 2011 23:00:48
Liverpool Rumours
How many eds are there? i was just curious :)

{editor: Enough lol.}

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09 Jan 2011 22:48:05
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Welsh Red,

i think your onto something with Johnson.

not the best defender. but can attack, drop the shoulder, hit it with both feet, and is semi quick.

give the lad a chance to shine.

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09 Jan 2011 22:46:42
Why shouldnt we go after Suarez ridiculous to call him out for handball in world cup would expect any LFC player to do the same in those circumstances it is a natural reaction and he is a class striker.

agree with post about Miereless today didn't look up for it wouldn't tackle and couldnt pass left a lot for Lucas to do

Think we should buy a class right back and move Kelly to CB he is awsome and alongside agger would be unbeatable

Big shout to Roy for resigning Aurelio didn't put a foot wrong today but we need some youth in the LB position maybe mavinga could be the one.

I like the idea of M'Villa only 20 but a player in the Essien mold

Dont know if we will get honda but Turan looks good to me and we should be able to get him Turkish football in a lot of debt

Going back to Friday and Beggars long post the interesting point in that novel was CM is not Gerrards best position doesn't do enough in the defensive role stick him up top alongside Torres watch them go then

Kenny to install some discipline in the dressing room

TC

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09 Jan 2011 22:46:31
Good performance today, pity about the sending off result may have different. Torres looked slow and not interested again, babel looked good when he came on hopefully he will start more games and show what he can actually do. one last thing in my mind sammy lee has to go as well and hopefully bring in Wilkins he is a quality number 2.

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09 Jan 2011 22:45:10
09 Jan 2011 22:07:31
09 Jan 2011 21:04:44
The only bad thing for me about Shelvey is that he looks very slow and heavy. Anyone agree? By the way the confidence and audacity of the kid to try a 50 yarder in a game of such magnitude! Class!

No! It was selfish & a really stupid thing to do! Down to 10 men & a rare opportunity to get players around the box & he does that! His teamates weren't too happy with him!

The Irish Rover
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Was selfish and wrong but i would give the lad praise for doing it

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09 Jan 2011 22:44:09
Ed what do you know about Jordi Alba? ? {ed's note - not a lot, Valencia left winger, seemed quick and skilful, but I have only seen him a couple of times. I did take note of him though as one to keep an eye out for.}

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09 Jan 2011 22:39:40
Gerrard Is amazing but we play better without him. The other players actually realise they have ability too lol.
Raul at spurs perfect example
Ever since we lost alonso and Steve M then Luis Garcia and Danny murphy gerrard has become more and more important but now he needs to pass to others not just not Torres.
P.S we don't need 2 wingers we ha e Johnson going forward he's brill.

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09 Jan 2011 22:38:29
09 Jan 2011 21:40:12
Liverpool Rumours
WHEY! DONE AGAIN YOU SORRY LOOKIN CLUB!

WOW, HOWARD WEBB IS USING THIS SITE ASWELL NOW, ED LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE HITTING THE BIG TIME.

ChrisE

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09 Jan 2011 22:35:57
Liverpool Rumours
Stop posting teams which include Lucas he's awful! OK, Gerrard is out but there's still better than him. My team:

Reina

Kelly Skrtel Agger Aurellio

Johnson Miereles Shelvey Babel

Torres Kuyt

Subs: Cole, Gulcasi, Ngog, Soto, Pacheco, Maxi, Wilson.

Finally with King Kenny in we've got rid of 2/ 3 of the rubbish in our team (Konchesky and Ngog), now we just need the final piece of the jigsaw. . get rid of Lucas.

Bel - Get rid of Lucas Unb - Keep Lucas


Ed, please post to Rumours, and what are your thoughts? {ed's note - first off it is not a rumour and there is no need to post it there. Secondly Lucas was one of our best players today yet you want to drop him and keep Meireles who had a stinker!}

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09 Jan 2011 22:35:54
BRING BACK SAMMI HYPIA TO COACH OUR YOUNG DEFENDERS THEN CARRA CAN JOIN AFTER THIS SEASON.
ROBBIE AND RUSHY TO HELP OUR STRIKERS!
MAYBE BRING IN PHIL THOMPSON AS NO.2
AND ALAN HANSEN AND MARK LAWRRO.
A NEW LFC BOOTROOM!

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09 Jan 2011 22:32:13
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I found that seriously offensive aand harsh that you said Ghana are. Weak opposition quarter final and robbed of a semi final hardly weak? They played a million times better than us and have some top player Gyan kp boateng Annan etc. So ed re think that comment seriously weak. . If Ghana are weak then what does make England? {ed's note - I fail to see the relevance in England being crap to Ghana being a team that played above their level to get so far.}

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09 Jan 2011 22:32:02
I moaned about NESV in the week, they responded by stumping up 7 million to pay Roy off. Was great to see KK return today and i believe the players performed well despite the dodgy penalty and the sending off(2 feet above ground = red). Refs are human and make mistakes.
So well done NESV for making a popular and slightly expensive decision.
Kenny is a sensible football guy and surely would have been given assurances of some signings this month before agreeing to put his reputation on the line. I expect Turan and suarez to be approached, babel to me more involved and a better attitude and performance from all players.
Good luck Kenny and i'm sure that NESV will invest, YNWA
ED, surely Charlie Adam is well worth a bid? {ed's note - Kenny never asked for anything. He was asked if he would like the job and he jumped at the chance to manage the club he loves. Not so sure about Adam, has a bit of a big-time attitude apparently.}

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09 Jan 2011 22:31:48
Just gna throw this out there and probably get some stick for it but I like one of the eds fails to see why there is so much hype about shelvy yes he is young but if a player is to be world class by 18 they are usually showing signs of it already and from what I have seen of shelvy as limited as it is he has not shown me any signs jack wilshere ( dno spelling ) at arsenal looks a lot better and does show signs of being a real prospect. I may be proved wrong and to be honest I really hope I am I wish all the youngsters the best of luck and hope they make it but as I said I am still waiting to be impressed and when I say impressed I am taking their age into consideration. Ed your thoughts please, great site keep up the good work. Redchris {ed's note - I do think he has ability, he just needs nurturing to bring it out. He will have bad games, he just needs to learn form them.}- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - this is true I'm glad to see some faith in the young lads and hope Pacheco gets same treatment would like to see him partner Torres at Blackpool. My problem may be I have not seen enough of shelvy and that might be why I haven't seen any signs of real quality if anyone has seen anything Please let me know and put me right, honestly have we got the next gerrard as I have heard him branded or not? Redchris. {ed's note - I would say Coady in central midfield is the closest thing I have seen to a young Gerrard. Shelvey was outstanding in League One, he defo has the ability to play at a higher level. Whereas Darby looked decent at the same level.}

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09 Jan 2011 22:30:34
Liverpool Rumours
Does anyone else agree with me that Gerrards sending off was probably only due to seeing Meireles bottle several tackles prior? There seemed to be a few (mostly Meireles) where LFC players went in hanging a leg when they were 60-40% to win it.

* *WELSH KOPITE* *

mate gerrard got sent off because he did a two footed tackle end of, frustrated at being one down so early. no body wanted us to win more than him today, and a rush of blood ended his day.
you can't blame mereiles for stevie getting sent off! also he is still adapting to the pace and the pysical side to playing in england, he proberly would have won that ball had it been a portugeuse cup game, he looked shocked he didn't win it to be fair.
mereiles like others needs a run in the first team in his position (not wide right) to get used to the english game.

matt 27

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09 Jan 2011 22:30:32
Watching highlights of liverpools youth cup match against crystal palace , its promising seeing the likes of suso , sterling , silva , coady , i think we have some really decent young talent to come through the ranks soon.

Suso is unbelivable i think he is going to be world class! hes just soooo good , youve got to watch this lad cause if you don't your missing out. channel 434 on sky :)

DLG

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09 Jan 2011 22:27:20
Ed, why do u not like gerrard as a person? {ed's note - he is far too arrogant and will ignore you if he doesn't think you are worthy of his attention. He has never had the grounding he should have had while a young man - he was always being told how great he was with no one keeping his feet on the ground.}

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09 Jan 2011 22:22:33
"09 Jan 2011 21:20:53
Same drab performance. Kenny has aged 10 yrs already. There is no money to spend. We're in the same predicament as under Gillette n Hicks. We have sold to the wrong people, . . again. We need cash, and quick. At least £200 million to get us out of this mess. If anyone thinks that was a good performance they need help. Middle East is the only place where you will get that kind of cash. Don't, for one minute, tell me we had no offers from Mid East. The Yonks would rather spend $50 million on a baseball player! For h* *s sake! Arabs thrive on competition. Why'd you think Qatar want to buy Utd? City, that's why. They want to outdo them, outspend them, and, if they do buy them, they will. Where will that leave us? I'll tell you where, up s*eep creek, with no hope of ever regaining our place at the top table."

No, I can't agree with this.
We were better than usual all over the park today, and had s s* t ref and a over-charged SG that lost it. There were very positive signs, and that was just based on a team talk!
Listen my friend: we will NOT be losing to the Blackpools and West Broms with KK in charge- at least that nightmare is over.
And we need a bit of patience- at least wait till KK has actually had a single training session with the squad, maybe?!
And NESV arent going to throw cash around, no. But they are thinking long term, and they are 100% committed to winning. If Manure can be top with the money they spend, then with KK we can win the bloody thing ourselves. Yes, you need to spend, and sometimes big- and if its needed to win the prem, I think NESV will do it.
They will make damn sure that we are going to be playing CL football from 2012 onwards, and that's a lot better than where we are now.

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09 Jan 2011 22:17:07
Liverpool Rumours
TO TO FACE BLACKPOOL

REINA
KELLY AGGER SKERTL AURLIEO
MERILES LUCAS SHELVEY BABEL
TORRES KUYT/ COLE/ NGOG

SUBS
SOTO
WILSON
KUYT/ COLE/ NGOG
KUYT/ COLE/ NGOG
POULSEN
GULACSI

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09 Jan 2011 22:15:08
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I FINK WE PLAYED REALLI WELL 2DAY CREDIT HAS T GO T KENNY 4 PLAYIN KELLY AND HAVIN D BALLS T BRING ON JONJO GREAT PROSPECTS JUS NEED T KEEP WORKIN HARD, , BIT DISSAPOINTED IN RAUL MIRALES PLAYED WELL WIT D BALL BUT WITHOUT PLAYED LIKE A WUSS NEEDS T SHOW FIGHT LIKE LUCAS WHO WAS EXCELLENT

A MESSAGE T ALL LIVERPOOL FANS SUPPORT D TEAM NOW WE SHOWED SIGNS OF PLAYIN FOOTBALL JUS NEED THE PLAYERS T BELIEV

MA

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09 Jan 2011 22:11:55
Just wanted to praise agger and kelly imparticular,
ourback 4 is so much mor solid with those 2 and aurelio in there, although aurelio looked shaky at times.
i thought babel gave us a lift wen he came on, shelvey tried hard but quality wasnt really there 2day.
also wanted 2 comment on the news that torres will see out his contract, IMO its great news, but a lot of suporters are saying we should cash in because of how hes playing, but surely we shudnt sell him yet. its only a matter of timme before hes firing again, .
what u think ed? pls comment on each of my points
sound

jay b {ed's note - I agree with most of your comments, though I still feel we need a left back as Aurelio will soon be back on the treatment table no doubt. As for Torres, if we could get two top class players with his fee then I would sell him.}

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09 Jan 2011 22:09:56
Liverpool Rumours
Luis Suarez stats
Club Season League Cup Europe Other[37] Total
Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals
Nacional 2005-06 27 10 - - 4 2 31 12
Total 27 10 - - 4 2 31 12
Groningen 2006-07 29 10 4 3 2 1 2 3 37 17
Total 29 10 4 3 2 1 2 3 37 17
Ajax 2007-08 33 17 4 2 4 1 3 2 44 22
2008-09 31 22 2 1 10 5 0 0 43 28
2009-10 33 35 6 8 9 6 0 0 48 49
2010-11 13 7 1 1 8 5 1 0 23 13
Total 108 81 12 11 30 16 4 2 154 110
Career total 164 101 17 15 32 17 10 7 222 139

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09 Jan 2011 22:09:18
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09 Jan 2011 20:54:06
Ed,

10 days of Jan have gone by and we still see no signs of any recruitment. . . I am getting worried about the owners now. . They have asked us to judge them by their actions. . . . .

BUT THE LACK OF ANY ACTION WITH REGARDS TO

1. SQUAD STRENGTHENING
2. STADIUM PLANS

are a bit disconcerting. .

sacking a manager by email is not the best way of getting your point and news across. .

At least that's not the Liverpool Way. . . . .

Wenger has signed Arshavin, Diaby and Nasri in the winter Jan transfer window. . . .so its definitely not the worst time for us to buy some players. . . . . .

Pritam {ed's note - it's only the 9th and the window was shut for the first two days anyway

come on mate you can't be as naieve as to think we would have signed two or three players by now? value for money is hard enough to find in jan as it is. 95% of deals for all prem teams will be done on the last day, due to the selling club often crumbling and accepting the buying clubs demands. van der vaart a prime example, madrid wanted 18m a deal fell through they panicked and offerd him for 8m to numerous clubs so at least someone would take him and they woudnt be stuck with a player they didn't want. if ajax are in serious financial trouble, as we lead to believe, then they might be asking 22m today but 17m on the 31st if they havent sold him.
5m doesn't sound alot, but to nesv tats is wages for 12months.
also no need for a right back, as another gem from the academy has been unearthed, the back four looked alot better today, great to see the great dane back in the first team, even skrtel had one of his better days.
ed whats happened to the honda rumours? everything has gone quiet, do you no if we were ever interested or was all the noise coming from his camp?

matt 27 {ed's note - all the noise was coming from his camp, though we did have CSKA watched, which stoked the fires a lot.}

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09 Jan 2011 22:07:31
09 Jan 2011 21:04:44
The only bad thing for me about Shelvey is that he looks very slow and heavy. Anyone agree? By the way the confidence and audacity of the kid to try a 50 yarder in a game of such magnitude! Class!

No! It was selfish & a really stupid thing to do! Down to 10 men & a rare opportunity to get players around the box & he does that! His teamates weren't too happy with him!

The Irish Rover

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09 Jan 2011 22:05:47
09 Jan 2011 19:44:32
09 Jan 2011 18:49:01
I'm sorry but I don't see anything in Shelvey. He looks slow, has poor vision and gives the ball away too much. I know he's young but I don't see this "enormous potential" he is supposed to have. I hope I'm proved wrong, obviously, but I don't see him developing into a top class player like I can in Pacheco and Suso.

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And do you see anything in Lucas? Shelvey did more in 20mins than Lucas has done this season.

Lemme guess, you a fan of his?

What did shelvey do so good? I saw him hoof a couple of balls to nobody and waste a free kick by shooting. . and no, I'm not a big Lucas fan either!

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09 Jan 2011 22:04:05
Liverpool Rumours
Ed wen I z build up play I mean wen babel n shevely done the 1 - 2 wen the both came on but I still stand by babel did u see his twitter post . It was legendary

YNWA darzokid {ed's note - Babel I thought tried hard today, didn't really get the service for understandable reasons though. But Shelvey seemed to have absolutely no close control whatsoever today, every time he received the ball it was bouncing away. If United had been pressing him they would have taken it off him every time. Like I said I do think he has a future at the club, it was just a poor performance today. All kids have them.}

have you read ryan babels new twitter post lol .
#TwitPolice is gonna put me in #Twitterjail after 12, don't know how long dat will be

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09 Jan 2011 22:01:05
Just watching the game again and increasingly struck by how much more postitive and combative all of the players seemed to be.
Even SG getting sent off in a way was a sign of passion and determination, although it was also a bit daft. And the pen was ludicrous.
SG cost us the game, because I think we could have battered them with 11 men, but the real point is the red men looked as if they were arsed about the game for most of the 90 mins, instead of the odd 10 mins as we've seen all season.
THings are changing!

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09 Jan 2011 21:57:24
Liverpool Rumours
Hi everyone, Im gonna become a regular poster on this site now as I love it to bits, and gonna sign each post to see what people think of my opinions, Ive got no sources or anything like that - Im only 15 but a very passionate Red, and btw I was the idiot who posted the para that made the ed laugh, bout how I said stop relying on Macca then I asked him a question lol. p.s I can't believe I get to see King Kenny manage our great team! Great site Eds keep it up.

King Kam

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09 Jan 2011 21:56:20
Liverpool Rumours
Ed, why don't you like Suarez? {ed's note - because every time I have seen him play against decent opposition he has been poor, for one. For two he has the same temperament as El Hadji Diouf.}

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09 Jan 2011 21:53:31
Just gna throw this out there and probably get some stick for it but I like one of the eds fails to see why there is so much hype about shelvy yes he is young but if a player is to be world class by 18 they are usually showing signs of it already and from what I have seen of shelvy as limited as it is he has not shown me any signs jack wilshere ( dno spelling ) at arsenal looks a lot better and does show signs of being a real prospect. I may be proved wrong and to be honest I really hope I am I wish all the youngsters the best of luck and hope they make it but as I said I am still waiting to be impressed and when I say impressed I am taking their age into consideration. Ed your thoughts please, great site keep up the good work. Redchris {ed's note - I do think he has ability, he just needs nurturing to bring it out. He will have bad games, he just needs to learn form them.}

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09 Jan 2011 21:51:31
Fellow fans relax and stop all the moaning we all need to get back to our job of being the best supporters in the world.

I wore myself down moaning about Houlier, Rafa and Roy.

The thing about Kenny is he loves and understands the club better than any of us. Kenny our greatest ever player knew well our greatest managers and lived through and created some of our greatest memories and he lived through and led us through our biggest tragedies.

HE LOVES THE CLUB MORE THAN ANY OF US.

So be happy there will be more hurt along the road but at least the gaffer is the KING.

DONT BUY THE SUN

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09 Jan 2011 21:48:46
Such an incredible performance by Martin Kelly today in the most testing circumstance .

He came through that with flying colours and can therefore come through anything .

Brilliant !

1977

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09 Jan 2011 21:45:31
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I am a massive liverpool fan and i have been thinking this for a while! Is gerrard the problem in our team? Granted we lost today from a s* t decision from a manc supporter! but when gerrard was sent off we stepped up a few gears! Dont get me wrong he is a great player but i just don't think his heart is with us anymore! Kelly was our best player by far today and this is the type of player i want to see at liverpool. So if it means letting gerrard go then i think we should let him! ED what do you think? {ed's note - I have said for years he is as much a part of the problem as he has been the solution. He is not a team player, in my opinion and is extremely lazy when it comes to chasing back. He has great quality, but I would rather have 11 players playing for each other. With him we get 10 players looking to him, however good you are it is not possible to do it all on your own. He only seems to be interested in those he feels are his equal, he always used to look to pass to Owen, then it became Torres. If they weren't on he tries to do it all himself. Maybe my views are coloured by his extreme arrogance as a person, but he seems to carry it on the pitch for me. Plus it must be remembered Hodgson was his choice......}

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09 Jan 2011 21:42:59
Mata just scored. nay have been offside tho. nice finish

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09 Jan 2011 21:42:45
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Howard Webb is pathetic.The rest of the world witnessed how much of a crap referee he is during the World Cup and if he is the best English referee as some people state he is than the rest of the English referees must be absolutely s* t.As soon as I heard that he was going to ref our F.A game against Manure I had a gut feeling that sooner or later he was going to invent a penalty in favour of the Mancs during the match.Howard Webb is so biased towards Manure he is an embarrasment to English refereeing.

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09 Jan 2011 21:42:04
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Ed wen I z build up play I mean wen babel n shevely done the 1 - 2 wen the both came on but I still stand by babel did u see his twitter post . It was legendary

YNWA darzokid {ed's note - Babel I thought tried hard today, didn't really get the service for understandable reasons though. But Shelvey seemed to have absolutely no close control whatsoever today, every time he received the ball it was bouncing away. If United had been pressing him they would have taken it off him every time. Like I said I do think he has a future at the club, it was just a poor performance today. All kids have them.}

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09 Jan 2011 21:40:12
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WHEY! DONE AGAIN YOU SORRY LOOKIN CLUB!

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09 Jan 2011 21:36:47
Torres is just an LFC fan mate. You've left out the bit that he "will honour his contract" (2013) no matter who's in charge.

Blair Mayne YNWA


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i didn't miss it out it wasn't on the site i pasted from:L blair do you want suarez?

me14
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Suarez is the one player i've been crying out for months me14. If i had a choice of only one player for one position it would be Saurez.

We have needed a another world class striker for more than 2 years now. We should make a striker our number 1 priority to either play with Torres or as backup. But if we got Saurez you would have to play the two of them.

From what i've seen of Saurez he plays like Torres i.e runs the channels, good in the air, plenty of pace and scores goals for fun. People question him because he just scores goals in the Ducth League. But i've watched him in the Champions League and more importantly the World Cup. Were for me Saurez and Forlan were the best forward line there.

Sorry for the long response me14 but i think we could be missing out of somthing special with this guy.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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09 Jan 2011 21:32:48
{ed's note - I am not disputing that Webb is a poor official.}

Oh you worried about the fa investigating you lol.

I think people want Suarez to come but realistic I doubt it. {ed's note - no, I just think that a guy who can't see De Jong's flying kick on Alonso is a red card can hardly be a competent official can he? It is an embarrassment that someone so clearly lacking in the ability to see such a blatant attack is still enjoying a professional career. Even worse that he got awarded for his services to it!}

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09 Jan 2011 21:32:27
Webb is just another ref like Mike Riley who is too weak in the presence of purple nose. I was just surprised that he didn't send off Agger.

Do you remember Riley giving them a penalty and sending off Hypia after two minutes a few years back - same thing, complete clone of a ref with no courage or understanding. He ruined one the biggest games of the year for nothing.

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09 Jan 2011 21:31:26
"Howard Webb MBE. Manc of the Busby Empire

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09 Jan 2011 21:30:40
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Shelvey looked up for the fight today. It was great to see the lad look comfortable.

Does anyone else agree with me that Gerrards sending off was probably only due to seeing Meireles bottle several tackles prior? There seemed to be a few (mostly Meireles) where LFC players went in hanging a leg when they were 60-40% to win it.

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09 Jan 2011 21:29:53
I agree 100% with this post, although there was a bit of promise today, i.e Martin Kelly, Shelvey coming on and generally a bit more passion due to a knee jerk uplift from Kenny's arrival. That'll die a death though when we carry on dropping points in the league. If we lose on Wednesday we're in serious trouble. NESV are no different to H&G, they aren't big spenders (sorry i'll correct that H&G did send but got caught out by the global financial downturn). Thats clear because they are running the risk of hampering the club for 3-4 years in the way they're going about things.

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I'm curious what you think NESV have possibly done wrong by this stage?
We are one week into their first ever transfer period. and its January. If you haven't followed a january window before, just look at the other teams, not much happens in the opening few days.

Joe Liverpool

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09 Jan 2011 21:27:53
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Evening ed .like to say welldone to Liverpool today much greater desire all over the park . Kelly and shealvey were excellent hopefully kenny keep them in for Wednesday game.just one point on sending off on tv they said red cause both feet of the floor is a red card well why didn't rafeal go 20seconds before on miereles then? Stevie wouldn't of needed to make that tackle then .cheers psvelnino {ed's note - I think Meireles pulled out and that meant Rafael got nowhere near him. Other than that I don't know, I didn't get a good look at the Rafael one because every break in play I was editing the sites!}

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09 Jan 2011 21:20:53
Same drab performance. Kenny has aged 10 yrs already. There is no money to spend. We're in the same predicament as under Gillette n Hicks. We have sold to the wrong people, . . again. We need cash, and quick. At least £200 million to get us out of this mess. If anyone thinks that was a good performance they need help. Middle East is the only place where you will get that kind of cash. Don't, for one minute, tell me we had no offers from Mid East. The Yonks would rather spend $50 million on a baseball player! For h* *s sake! Arabs thrive on competition. Why'd you think Qatar want to buy Utd? City, that's why. They want to outdo them, outspend them, and, if they do buy them, they will. Where will that leave us? I'll tell you where, up s*eep creek, with no hope of ever regaining our place at the top table.

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I agree 100% with this post, although there was a bit of promise today, i.e Martin Kelly, Shelvey coming on and generally a bit more passion due to a knee jerk uplift from Kenny's arrival. That'll die a death though when we carry on dropping points in the league. If we lose on Wednesday we're in serious trouble. NESV are no different to H&G, they aren't big spenders (sorry i'll correct that H&G did send but got caught out by the global financial downturn). Thats clear because they are running the risk of hampering the club for 3-4 years in the way they're going about things.

Why don't you go a chat you bull$*it somewhere else as you haven't got a clue what your talking about.

Sooty

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09 Jan 2011 21:20:13
Liverpool Rumours
We all stood up today only to be undone by our number 1 ref , hope we don
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09 Jan 2011 21:18:02
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Please make an iPhone application! !
Great site {ed's note - sorry mate, not going to happen as Apple charge too much to put an app on iTunes.}

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09 Jan 2011 21:11:37
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Hey every1 gr8 website nd everything
im not tryin 2 seem negative but what would ur thoughts be on if we lost against blackpool then against everton would u still back kenny?
i would but would you
bel if u would back unbel if u wont

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09 Jan 2011 21:11:29
Same drab performance. Kenny has aged 10 yrs already. There is no money to spend. We're in the same predicament as under Gillette n Hicks. We have sold to the wrong people, . . again. We need cash, and quick. At least £200 million to get us out of this mess. If anyone thinks that was a good performance they need help. Middle East is the only place where you will get that kind of cash. Don't, for one minute, tell me we had no offers from Mid East. The Yonks would rather spend $50 million on a baseball player! For h* *s sake! Arabs thrive on competition. Why'd you think Qatar want to buy Utd? City, that's why. They want to outdo them, outspend them, and, if they do buy them, they will. Where will that leave us? I'll tell you where, up s*eep creek, with no hope of ever regaining our place at the top table.
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Is it past your bed time, as you have school in the mourning, what a load of poo.One thinks you are better suited on the Blue Peter web site!
Redeyedhector

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09 Jan 2011 21:10:08
Fair play to kk Torres has been acting like a spoiled brat all season and it's about time someone showed he can't just turn up and be played the whole game nice one kk might give Torres the kick up the arse he has needed all season. I now think babel should start up top purely for his twitter rant lol that in it's self shows more passion than Torres has shown recently IMO. Redchris

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09 Jan 2011 21:08:28
Did anyone see Fergie on the touch line at all today? I didn't, or hardly like he normally is. . scared KK would make him look a fool, KK too bright for that whiskey guzzling clown who's only made to look good by Sky Sports and London media. Could be wrong but that's my thoughts.
Anyway after reading a few posts saying it was rubbish, give KK a break. . he's had probably 1 hour with the team since coming back from Dubia, anyway it looked loads better than previous games under RH, also taking into account being 1-0 due to diving and then 10 men so finishing the game 1-0 was not bad. the only way scum was going to score was by trying to dive again for another penalty!

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09 Jan 2011 21:04:44
The only bad thing for me about Shelvey is that he looks very slow and heavy. Anyone agree? By the way the confidence and audacity of the kid to try a 50 yarder in a game of such magnitude! Class!

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09 Jan 2011 21:03:13
Just read all of the posts from today, and loads of you make me laugh. Everybody has a right to their opinion, but in my opinion not a lot of people read the game very well at all.
Kelly was unbelievable, so cool on the ball(Man of the match). Gonna be an amazing find.
Mereles stunk the place out. He's a good player but couldn't make a pass to save his life today.
Kuyt, no legs struggled to get through the game.
Reina, same as you expect, awsome.
Nando, not very good, but feeding off scraps.
Lucas, was everywhere was given a hard time because of Mereles being ineffective, and Tosser Gerrard getting himself sent off.
They all faught bravely and with 11 players on the pitch I think we might have got something out of the game. Or am I talking "Bull" Ed?

Sooty {ed's note - I am with you, Lucas is getting unfair stick, people are even saying he had a crap game because he fell over! I don't think that lad will ever be given credit by some people.}

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09 Jan 2011 21:02:43
We need pace and height. Less worried about defensive options apart from a new right back. Kuyt is finished he is just way too slow and actually hinders attacks for us. Let's get a couple of good wingers and a striker to get us by till the summer. At least we will win more games.

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09 Jan 2011 21:00:35
Liverpool Rumours
I thought Kelly had a cracker game today and wen babel and shevely came on they played really well together in there build up play but I honastly think we need to give babel more games see the speed he has and he getting more confident on the ball . Wat u thnk ed? ?

YNWA darzokid {ed's note - I don't see many options in our current squad, though I fail to see what Shelvey did so good? His first touch was abysmal today, his passing was just as heavy as his touch as well. I do think he has a future but he didn't play well today at all in my opinion.}

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09 Jan 2011 20:59:34
Great news roy hodgson to be new liverpool manager
stranger things have happened like liverpool one of the most celebrated teams in history cannot accept something that happens all the time.

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09 Jan 2011 20:57:42
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Interesting fact, Howard Webb has given man u a penalty 4 out of the last 6 times they've played at old trafford. We haven't had 6 penalties this season, Ed you got to admit that howard Webb must be doing united a favor. Look again today, didn't even see the tackle and gave red for it without asking linesmen. {ed's note - I am not disputing that Webb is a poor official.}

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09 Jan 2011 20:54:06
Ed,

10 days of Jan have gone by and we still see no signs of any recruitment. . . I am getting worried about the owners now. . They have asked us to judge them by their actions. . . . .

BUT THE LACK OF ANY ACTION WITH REGARDS TO

1. SQUAD STRENGTHENING
2. STADIUM PLANS

are a bit disconcerting. .

sacking a manager by email is not the best way of getting your point and news across. .

At least that's not the Liverpool Way. . . . .

Wenger has signed Arshavin, Diaby and Nasri in the winter Jan transfer window. . . .so its definitely not the worst time for us to buy some players. . . . . .

Pritam {ed's note - it's only the 9th and the window was shut for the first two days anyway.}

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09 Jan 2011 20:51:54
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I hope this gets posted. .

The reason howard webb delayed before awarding the penalty was because of a problem in communication. Apparently the batteries had fallen out of mr fergusons walkie talkie and so webb had to wait for them to be changed before he was told what decision to give

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09 Jan 2011 20:46:09
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Anyone else agree that it was 9 vs 12 today as Lucas just takes up space?

We need a quality DM (M'Vila, Banega) as desperately as 2 wingers!

1. He is way too slow
2. He is not a good tackler (gives away fouls in bad areas)
3. His first touch is terrible
4. He gets caught in possesion repeatedly
5. His passing is not good enough
6. He runs around aimlessly (as he is too slow to actually close down) and provides no cover to back four at all.
7. He seems to have no balance (always slipping and falling on his @ss with no-one even close - watch the game today again! !)

Lucas fan's please try disagree. Common people, nice guy with decent engine, but like Kuyt - HE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH! !

i am a big fan of lucas but i think for the next three games he should be playing in behind torres in a more advanced role(the only thng is there is no one to play deeper in midfeld), i don't thnk playing as a holding midfielder does hm any good really. he is not currently first 11 material at liverpool but he does have a good heart. he should be bench material. he should be ur foruth choice midfielder, we need a playmaker badly

i don't believe we should sign a truly defensive mdfielder a holding midfielder maybe but not unless he has more to hs game than merely holding.
someone like xabi with the bailty to control the tempo of the game is needed and what has been lacking since we finished second in the league. the problemis there is a serious shrtage of payers of genuine quality in this position, outside of xabi and schwensteiger i can't think of any who can play this role well

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09 Jan 2011 20:40:53
Liverpool Rumours
Time to cash in on Johnson and Torres. Martin Kelly will do the business in place of Johnson and Torres looks like he don't give a s* t for a long time now. Get two good gutsy strikers in his place who will actually put their heart into playing for the club instead of walking around with their hands on their hips.

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09 Jan 2011 20:40:13
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Ha love supporters in england in the summer i saw numerous comments on this website regarding luis suarez mainly "what a cheat and then has the audasity to celebrate the penalty miss" now he could be on the verge of signing for us its all what a class player hmmm how times change in 6 months or so
redtilldead

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09 Jan 2011 20:39:29
NO! This is King Kenny stamping his authority on Torres saying if your not interested sit your arse on the bench.The likes of Stevie, Nando and Cara are no longer the biggest stars in that dressing room when the KING talks they listen

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09 Jan 2011 20:39:27
09 Jan 2011 19:59:05
To all Liverpool I repeat all Liverpool fans
GROW A PAIR AND FOCUS ON SURVIVAL YOU LOST DON'T BLAME IT ON THE REFEREE LEARN TO CONTROL YOUR ANGER AND HOW TO LOOK AFTER A PLAYER MAYBE A SEASON IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP WILL TEACH YOU HOW TO PLAY FOOTBALL WHICH LOOKS LIKE A STRONG POSSIBILITY
Glory glory , BERBATOV

Ed, can you ask these kind of posters if they have their parents permission to use a pc?

Lee73

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09 Jan 2011 20:37:37
Same drab performance. Kenny has aged 10 yrs already. There is no money to spend. We're in the same predicament as under Gillette n Hicks. We have sold to the wrong people, . . again. We need cash, and quick. At least £200 million to get us out of this mess. If anyone thinks that was a good performance they need help. Middle East is the only place where you will get that kind of cash. Don't, for one minute, tell me we had no offers from Mid East. The Yonks would rather spend $50 million on a baseball player! For h* *s sake! Arabs thrive on competition. Why'd you think Qatar want to buy Utd? City, that's why. They want to outdo them, outspend them, and, if they do buy them, they will. Where will that leave us? I'll tell you where, up s*eep creek, with no hope of ever regaining our place at the top table.

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I agree 100% with this post, although there was a bit of promise today, i.e Martin Kelly, Shelvey coming on and generally a bit more passion due to a knee jerk uplift from Kenny's arrival. That'll die a death though when we carry on dropping points in the league. If we lose on Wednesday we're in serious trouble. NESV are no different to H&G, they aren't big spenders (sorry i'll correct that H&G did send but got caught out by the global financial downturn). Thats clear because they are running the risk of hampering the club for 3-4 years in the way they're going about things.

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09 Jan 2011 20:36:59
09 Jan 2011 19:59:05
To all Liverpool I repeat all Liverpool fans
GROW A PAIR AND FOCUS ON SURVIVAL YOU LOST DON'T BLAME IT ON THE REFEREE LEARN TO CONTROL YOUR ANGER AND HOW TO LOOK AFTER A PLAYER MAYBE A SEASON IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP WILL TEACH YOU HOW TO PLAY FOOTBALL WHICH LOOKS LIKE A STRONG POSSIBILITY
Glory glory , BERBATOV

Learn to put in commers and fullstops.
"how to look after a player" what let them hold us to ransom like shrek did to you! By the way you can turn off the caps lock. You had better get to bed or finish doing your homework in case mum or dad come in and catch you being naughty.

Lee73

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09 Jan 2011 20:36:16
Torres is just an LFC fan mate. You've left out the bit that he "will honour his contract" (2013) no matter who's in charge.

Blair Mayne YNWA


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i didn't miss it out it wasn't on the site i pasted from:L blair do you want suarez?

me14

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09 Jan 2011 20:36:02
To all Liverpool I repeat all Liverpool fans

GROW A PAIR AND FOCUS ON SURVIVAL YOU LOST DON'T BLAME IT ON THE REFEREE LEARN TO CONTROL YOUR ANGER AND HOW TO LOOK AFTER A PLAYER MAYBE A SEASON IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP WILL TEACH YOU HOW TO PLAY FOOTBALL WHICH LOOKS LIKE A STRONG POSSIBILITY

Glory glory , BERBATOV
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To the d***head with nothing better to do stop worrying about Liverpool and worry about city being the number 1 manc team soon. And we all know Liverpool will not end up in the championship so get rid of that hard on you have.

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09 Jan 2011 20:31:13
My predicitons.
Lucas or Meireles will be dropped and Shelvey will start. I think kuyt won't start and johnson will play wing. Kenny is a strong believer is bringing young talent the play Kelly played i'd be so so suprised if he dropped him for Blackpool. if we play with the same commitment and desire we will create a lot more chances and im 100% we can get the win there go on lads! 1

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09 Jan 2011 20:29:23
Liverpool Rumours
Hi ed, Upset at todays result but happy with performance. was almost in tears with emotion at the sight of him walking out. . Anyway, surely we must at least try to get Banega in? He is class, a good passer, skillful, and tries to be creative. and i'm sure his get out clause is only 8m?!. .Also, his team mate Pablo Hernandez is in my opinion, Pure class! I think he looks more direct then Silva did and i think he looks better then his team mate Mata! . . Todays papers say we're interested, I pray we are! . .Also, surely Babel can simply say he thought the photo of Howard Webb in a Man U shirt was real?!. .Who can prove otherwise?


YNWA


SI {ed's note - Pablo Hernandez does look a good player, I have mentioned him a couple of times myself as an option for the right wing.}

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09 Jan 2011 20:23:16
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Dear king Kenny please please please sign Nzogbia he is absolute lightning and can Dribble, beat a player, shoot with either foot, cross a great ball and would be available for between 10-12 million.I honestly believe he could transform liverpools season!

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09 Jan 2011 20:23:10
{ed's note - Roy wanted wingers too, so there was always a chance of getting some in.}

Roy would want wings like duff and bentley. Kenny would want wingers like turan. Big difference? {ed's note - huge difference, but both types do provide width and we need that.}

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09 Jan 2011 20:22:33
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This Lucas bashing is ridiculous, he has been our best outfield player this season, and does not deserve the stick he has got today from some people. Yes, he fell over a couple of times, and misplaced a few passes. . but none of these mistakes led to goals. Both he and Kuyt have had to adapt their games to suit Rafa's needs. Lucas was a box-to-box midfielder, with attacking intent before he was turned into a holding midfielder, and Kuyt was a striker.
Each of them put in a shift today, and you need these types of players in your team. If your going to bash anyone today is should be Meireles, ponderous in possession-took too long to pick a pass, shirked a challenge with Rafael, and bullied by Carrick and Fletcher. He was substituted for Shelvey for a reason, he was having a stinker!

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09 Jan 2011 20:22:28
Liverpool Rumours
We need a big signing like Howard Webb. Without a signing like him we will never win anything. He has easily been UTd's best signing in the last ten years

Josek

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09 Jan 2011 20:22:27
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Fair play ryan babel posting image of howard webb in manure shirt. babel is a red, he would have left years ago if he wasn't. hope he gets a proper chance under kenny and we can see what a quality player he is. 3 games up front in a row and we would see. he has been treated poorly by the club and fans alike but is still here and whenever he does come on the bloke runs his socks off.

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09 Jan 2011 20:20:04
Ryan babel is now a legend in my eyes my dad just told me he posted a pic of howard Webb in a manc shirt on twitter and called him a joke lol yeah it may be silly and might get him fined but that is still some very funny and very true s* t fair play to him for having the balls to say what everyone thinks. Ed what you think f.a will do about it? Redchris {ed's note - I am not sure what they can do after they have done nothing about numerous comments from other players and managers in the same vein.}

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09 Jan 2011 20:20:00
Liverpool Rumours
Speculaive punts as to who we might be signing is a totally pointless exercise. Its clear to me that NESV are another bargain basement outfit. Lets face it, anyone worth signing, who's proven and can hit the ground running would cost £20 mill+. Furthermore, any flourishing star currently performing in another country will want a carrot dangling before them to make it a worthwhile move. This isn't going to happen. Unless a clubs owner likes spending like a drunken sailor, a rich arab or thieving Russian then the star players won't arrive. With this in mind, King Kenny hasn't a magic wand in his locker so we're mid table fodder. Our history's exactly that, history. The 'Liverpool way' is a thing of the past, the games moved on and it now requires the cheque book . If that's not forthcoming, we'll never challenge. Dzecko's gone to City because they've stumped up for the transfer fee and offered him wages he can't refuse. Thats not going to happen at Liverpool. Ive seen this type of NESV strategy in business . Keep quite, don't give anything away, no promises and no matter which way things go, its human nature to get used to he new norm and that's what'll happen to us. Before we know it, mid table will be the norm. NESV are the sought of owners who'll be able to justify their stance on any positon with well worked out spin.

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09 Jan 2011 20:18:45
Would like o see Kelly remain at right back with Johnson right wing as he could still help out defensively and strengthen right side

I agree kelly is a far better defender than johnson but as shown today when kelly got forward his crossing was poor and he looked like a fish out of water, were as johnson likes to cross or cut inside up top.but still I would like £15M FOR JOHNSON and buy a real winger with kelly at the back

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09 Jan 2011 20:18:22
09 Jan 2011 19:31:49
Maybe players like Pacheco and Eccleston will make the bench against Blackpool.

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09 Jan 2011 20:11:37
I watched villlareal vs Madrid santi carloza is brilliant! !'

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09 Jan 2011 20:08:43
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Take out torres when we r a goal down with 15min to go?what the hell is he thinking?(thats what u said when rafa did the same thing last season)

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09 Jan 2011 20:08:29
Liverpool Rumours
This has probably already been posted but according to yahoo sport news, Babel posted a picture of Howard Webb wearing a Man U shirt on his Twitter account. Fair Play Babel! .

The Roachmiester

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09 Jan 2011 20:08:21
Johnjo shelvey is 18! !. . he is going to b amazing! so comfortable on the ball for his age, good with either foot, great vision, good range of passing. . give him a few years to mature an we've got a top draw centre mid! . . .in my opinion he offers far more than lucas!

the likes of lucas and kuyt (so poor its untrue) r nowhere near good enough 2 play for liverpool f.c! no matter how much lucas has 'improved' (was hard not to)

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09 Jan 2011 20:03:10
Liverpool Rumours
Until we get new players Kenny should atleast consider this line up


Reina

Kelly Skrtel Agger Aurelio

G.Johnson Meireles Gerrard Babel/ Kuyt


J.Cole

Torres
Greek/ Wilson as CB cover, Ngog, babel( if kuyt is playin) orNgo, Kuyt (if babel is playin) as cover for torres.Gerrard plays better in CM and wid raul he could form a good CM pair.J.Cole will flourish behind just behind torres.In the bolton game he scored when he was put in that position.I don't know y the just give 2-3 games in that position.Come on Kenny try this.

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09 Jan 2011 20:00:08
Liverpool Rumours
Torres commits:

Torres told The people that :" I haven't considered leaving, although in football that depends on the club. Liverpool had a lot of success under Rafa Benitez and that is difficult for anyone to follow. Even if the ball hasn't always dropped our way this season, we have missed out in a lot of matches".

Regarding the clubs current turmoil, Torres said :" More than ever, we need to stick together. We must live in the present, from match to match. We need to add more points, win matches and improve our standing in the table".

me14 - torres is a big rafa fan!
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Torres is just an LFC fan mate. You've left out the bit that he "will honour his contract" (2013) no matter who's in charge.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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09 Jan 2011 19:59:05
To all Liverpool I repeat all Liverpool fans
GROW A PAIR AND FOCUS ON SURVIVAL YOU LOST DON'T BLAME IT ON THE REFEREE LEARN TO CONTROL YOUR ANGER AND HOW TO LOOK AFTER A PLAYER MAYBE A SEASON IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP WILL TEACH YOU HOW TO PLAY FOOTBALL WHICH LOOKS LIKE A STRONG POSSIBILITY
Glory glory , BERBATOV

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09 Jan 2011 19:47:49
Liverpool Rumours
Martin Kelly was superb today, Johnson will be nervous about his place. Jovanivic and Cole could be sold on and wouldn't be missed, Poulsen as well. Konchesky hasn't exactly lit the place alight either since he arrived. Shelvey really got stuck in today when he came in and if that is the type of player that John Henry wants to bring in with that type of determination then fair play to him. Suarez would be a great signing, hopefully having the King in charge will bring some big names in.

Heard that John Aldridge wants Martin O'Neill in charge after the summer, O'Neill may have won loads in Scotland with Celtic but he made a mess of contracts with players giving them ridiculous get-out clauses, so with a track record like that he wouldn't be a great choice in my book, hopefully The King will do well to the summer, get us up the table, Sunderland, Spurs, Bolton, Newcastle are no way better than us

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09 Jan 2011 19:44:32
09 Jan 2011 18:49:01
I'm sorry but I don't see anything in Shelvey. He looks slow, has poor vision and gives the ball away too much. I know he's young but I don't see this "enormous potential" he is supposed to have. I hope I'm proved wrong, obviously, but I don't see him developing into a top class player like I can in Pacheco and Suso.

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And do you see anything in Lucas? Shelvey did more in 20mins than Lucas has done this season.

Lemme guess, you a fan of his?

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09 Jan 2011 19:37:40
Liverpool Rumours
Anyone else agree that it was 9 vs 12 today as Lucas just takes up space?

We need a quality DM (M'Vila, Banega) as desperately as 2 wingers!

1. He is way too slow
2. He is not a good tackler (gives away fouls in bad areas)
3. His first touch is terrible
4. He gets caught in possesion repeatedly
5. His passing is not good enough
6. He runs around aimlessly (as he is too slow to actually close down) and provides no cover to back four at all.
7. He seems to have no balance (always slipping and falling on his @ss with no-one even close - watch the game today again! !)

Lucas fan's please try disagree. Common people, nice guy with decent engine, but like Kuyt - HE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH! !

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09 Jan 2011 19:33:34
Liverpool Rumours
We need more pace in our side, it was terribly one paced until Babel came along. Wingers should be on Dalglish's list

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09 Jan 2011 19:31:55
09 Jan 2011 17:35:06
09 Jan 2011 17:09:04
Im getting sick and tired of idiots blaming lucas everytime we lose. its getting BORING! . NO MENTION f* *ING GERRARD GETTING SENT OFF THE DICK. THANKS ALOT TIT.

he has done more than enough over the years i find it too hard to blame him there is too much he has done lol
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You are 100% right. Lucas has done more than enough: crap attempted tackles giving away fouls just outside the box, getting caught in possesion, wafting around aimlessly in MF, missing easy goal chances and falling over on his ass with no-one close to him (watch the game again - counted at least 3 times he just falls over on his @ss). Was actually 9 vs 12 (Lucas just a waste of space and as slow as Kuyt). We need M'vila or Banega (a person with half a brain can see that).

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09 Jan 2011 19:31:49
Maybe players like Pacheco and Eccleston will make the bench against Blackpool .

1977

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09 Jan 2011 19:31:48
Liverpool Rumours
Would like o see Kelly remain at right back with Johnson right wing as he could still help out defensively and strengthen right side

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09 Jan 2011 19:31:16
I thoght liverpool done us all proud today without even winning against the scum.Ed can you see any wingers comeing in soon now theres a change of manager CASTER TROY {ed's note - Roy wanted wingers too, so there was always a chance of getting some in.}

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09 Jan 2011 19:28:34
Story lads as I posted after being at the Chelsea game, Howard Webb is a Hollywood ref. It's all about him and no one else and Jason Macca said the same thing today on lfctv. Should not be about the ref he should be anonymous but oh now he has to be the man , he's just a tosser.
Suarez Honda and hazard. Not bad ed eh? Macca wat are the chances?
Fowler is god

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09 Jan 2011 19:19:44
Ed, can we do anything to get Howard 'the manc supprting wa*k' Webb in any sort of trouble. .seriously, that dickwe*ds biased. . Anything at all. .like reporting to the FA or does it have to be done by the team?

Bob Lee Swagger {ed's note - I don't think there is anything the fans could do about him, which is a good thing really or there would be no refs left. Every time a ref gave a decision against a team all its fans would complain about him.}

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09 Jan 2011 19:19:05
Liverpool Rumours
I hope Jovanovic gets a fair chance before anything rash is done, who knows he could be what we're looking for next to Torres, he would do alot of the running and all Torres would have to do is get his lazy arse in the box.

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09 Jan 2011 19:18:58
Liverpool Rumours
Torres commits:

Torres told The people that :" I haven't considered leaving, although in football that depends on the club. Liverpool had a lot of success under Rafa Benitez and that is difficult for anyone to follow. Even if the ball hasn't always dropped our way this season, we have missed out in a lot of matches".

Regarding the clubs current turmoil, Torres said :" More than ever, we need to stick together. We must live in the present, from match to match. We need to add more points, win matches and improve our standing in the table".

me14 - torres is a big rafa fan!

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09 Jan 2011 19:12:27
Cant see anything wrong with what babel has done.but yet again the fa will look to kick liverpool at any chance thay get

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09 Jan 2011 19:12:18
Liverpool Rumours
Ed do you think under kenny are style of play will be more attacking ? {ed's note - yes, pass and move is his mantra.}

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09 Jan 2011 19:10:48
Thought the 10 men gave everything, we need Agger to stay. . If Kenny plays him every game then I'm hopful he will stay. Kelly was awesome and think has earned a run in the first 11.

To Lose 1-0 to a dubious penalty in the 2nd min and then down to 10 men with three quarters of the game left at Old Trafford! ! The boys can hold their heads high. . . and walk on . . things I think at last are going to get a whole lot better, couple of new faces and who knows maybe top 6. . Would be best we can hope for!
What you think Ed ? {ed's note - I think we have to be pleased with the performance, if not the result. The effort and desire that vanished under Roy was back.}

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09 Jan 2011 19:06:36
Same drab performance. Kenny has aged 10 yrs already. There is no money to spend. We're in the same predicament as under Gillette n Hicks. We have sold to the wrong people, . . again. We need cash, and quick. At least £200 million to get us out of this mess. If anyone thinks that was a good performance they need help. Middle East is the only place where you will get that kind of cash. Don't, for one minute, tell me we had no offers from Mid East. The Yonks would rather spend $50 million on a baseball player! For h* *s sake! Arabs thrive on competition. Why'd you think Qatar want to buy Utd? City, that's why. They want to outdo them, outspend them, and, if they do buy them, they will. Where will that leave us? I'll tell you where, up s*eep creek, with no hope of ever regaining our place at the top table.
Lol ed can you block united fans? Clear scum fam what a dildo he obviously isn't partying up cos he knows they got lucky today brilliant lads!

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09 Jan 2011 19:06:17
09 Jan 2011 18:40:11
Re: How long has Torres got left on his contract and does anyone think with Kenny signing till the summer will boost him as a player and as a person i would like to see another striker to at least try and help Torres i think he is board and wants out but at the same time he is a very loyal person and just like any footballer just wants to win things who would make Torres shine again Adebayor offers strength so he could play the target man role and let Torres feed off him.

torres is contracted till 2013 with the option of an extra year, adebayor would be ok if he didn't act like a five year old an sulk all the time, personally i wud like llorente(unlikely) or hulk

Got a question, when his contract is up do both party's have to agree to a 1 year extension or is it only the club that can choose. I am worried that in a couple years time we may have to sell torres for cheap. Ed maybe? {ed's note - both parties have to agree a new contract or extension unless there is a clause in the contract which is triggered on appearances or some other manner.}

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09 Jan 2011 19:03:29
ha ha Howard the duck. That's a great one! . Although it should be Howard the "I bum united" duck

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09 Jan 2011 19:00:42
Glory glory BERBATOV

wat a manc prot you were booing him all year from your london flat

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09 Jan 2011 18:59:03
Good to see Liverpool play with passion today in the theatre of cheats Howard Webb obviously supports Man U, Good to see Kenny back again, let's settle down now and get behind the team

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09 Jan 2011 18:58:45
Liverpool Rumours
I agree with what some of us are saying,
turan and suarez would make a huge difference. add them to the effort of today and the sheer buzz kenny's return has given evryone. .
but i have to say i don't know about suarez!
he bit someone and is that really who we want at our liverpool? yes he can be lethal but if he winds up easy enough to bite an oppo then the prem may not be for him!
apart from the usual suspects (discreet ref to the late great pete p. there r.i.p. sir) like llorente, lukaluka, negredo anyone got other ideas for strikers, like lopez and other left field names reinforcements?
Joycie

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09 Jan 2011 18:57:59
Liverpool Rumours
Fernando llorente rumours must stop now as sky sources confirm that deal with real madrid has been done for the summer. i am sure that will not change at any point.

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09 Jan 2011 18:55:38
Fair comment ed. but i don't see bringing ngog on as positive? fair enough the other two. but everyone would of made silly comments about taking el nino off if it was ANY other manager. i remember rafa doin it when we had difficult fixtures the week later. but no one cared about the reasons behind his choice. its so obvious. i just think people are going to make excuses for whatever kenny does wrong. ALL OF A SUDDEN ITS THE PLAYERS FAULT!

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I guess the difference was Benitez took Torres out of a league game to save him for an upcoming cup game, not the other way around.
And in any event, it is petty to make any attempt to criticise Kenny today, it was clear to everyone that we were miles better than we have been all season.

Not to sound like a broken record but back four were great today, hope Kelly gets a good run.

Joe Liverpool

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09 Jan 2011 18:54:08
A brave performance today from the 10 men but before the sam sending off we were the only side in it they only had one shot on goal the penalty.

And on that how arrogant Howard Webb was not to consult in his assistant who was better placed and never flinched.

On the sending off there was a 2 footed challenge right before it on miereles but he jumped out of the way but pretty stupid of gerrrard to do that no complaints

Kelly without a shadow of doubt MOM Fat Sam and pizza face were absolutely disgraceful called berbatw*t for diving and gave him MOM

Lets hope for better days in the future players playing with belief and hopefully a couple of class signings look forward to susso making his debut

TC

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09 Jan 2011 18:53:19
Liverpool Rumours
Andy carroll anybody? ??

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09 Jan 2011 18:49:55
DO YOU SEE THE LIGHT?
wide players NEEDED!

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09 Jan 2011 18:49:36
Liverpool Rumours
Don't want Shawcross not good enough signing hum would not show the right ambition plus he will be massively overpriced much much better to go for Lovren

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09 Jan 2011 18:49:01
I'm sorry but I don't see anything in Shelvey. He looks slow, has poor vision and gives the ball away too much. I know he's young but I don't see this "enormous potential" he is supposed to have. I hope I'm proved wrong, obviously, but I don't see him developing into a top class player like I can in Pacheco and Suso.

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09 Jan 2011 18:46:06
We lost, but it was a great performance and we kept attacking, I dare say we deserved a draw, even with a man down. KKs return was great, there were so many positives, I cannot wait to see how he progresses with the team. Above all else, I'd like to thank the fans who managed to drown out United all the way through the match - KK can even bring the best out of the 12th man. Bring on the next few matches, even if we do little in the transfer window, I feel confident for the first time in about a year that we are moving in the right direction.

do you think johnsons return will be on the wing? Kelly really laid down a claim to LB today.

HodgsonOut

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09 Jan 2011 18:44:48
Liverpool Rumours
Hey ed we can all hold our heads high 2day the players should be proud and we should let them knw the fans were great aswell never stop singing fairplay, just a question for yourself or anyone who has any info, do you think the king will go for honda just havent heard anything about him lateiy or does he rate him ?
king henry

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09 Jan 2011 18:44:45
Liverpool Rumours
Just wonder ed how u would feel with Thompson as kennys number 2 ?

{Editor's Note: Not for me.}

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09 Jan 2011 18:40:40
Liverpool Rumours
LONDON (AP) -The Football Association will open an investigation after Liverpool winger Ryan Babel posted a digitally altered picture on Twitter of referee Howard Webb wearing a Manchester United shirt.

Webb awarded a penalty against Liverpool and later sent off its captain Steven Gerrard as Man United won 1-0 in the third round of the FA Cup on Sunday.

Before linking to the image of Webb, Babel wrote on Twitter: "And they call him one of the best referees. That's a joke.''

The FA told The Associated Press that "we will definitely look into this matter.''

DARCY YNWA

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09 Jan 2011 18:40:34
Liverpool Rumours
Ryan babel to be investigated about the picture he put on twitter of man u webb, , surely there times best served investigating man u webbs games for man united, and investigating berbatovs dive he should be tring out for the olympics

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09 Jan 2011 18:40:11
Re: How long has Torres got left on his contract and does anyone think with Kenny signing till the summer will boost him as a player and as a person i would like to see another striker to at least try and help Torres i think he is board and wants out but at the same time he is a very loyal person and just like any footballer just wants to win things who would make Torres shine again Adebayor offers strength so he could play the target man role and let Torres feed off him.
torres is contracted till 2013 with the option of an extra year, adebayor would be ok if he didn't act like a five year old an sulk all the time, personally i wud like llorente(unlikely) or hulk

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09 Jan 2011 18:39:38
Liverpool Rumours
"Martin kelly was like a brick wall at right back- he should play more
We need another winger (preferably turan)"

Johnson does offer far more on attack than almost any fullback in the Prem. So either the rest of the midfield/ defence needs to be better organised to cover him, or if Kelly is played then the right winger needs to be faster and more of an attacking threat than Kuyt. .and too bad if he's not good at getting back to help at the back. Kelly and Turan could work.
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Depends on how we play. In a 4-4-2 the fullbacks need to be better defensively. However if we ever switch to a 4-3-3 with the defensive midfielder playing as a true anchor man he forms a 3 man defensive unit with the centerbacks which frees up the fullbacks to attack more. In that system the fullbacks provide the width in attack allowing the "wingers" to play more like forwards. Then with a lead the wingers slide back to play more like true wingers and the fullbacks become more defensive.

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09 Jan 2011 18:37:35
{ed's note - I would hope that is what assistants are for. I do agree he is a very poor referee, but I am not going to crucify him for making the right decision when there are so many wrong ones there!}

Yeah but he didn't ask them. If he did then he should of done it for the penalty. Just annoying that he didn't see either incident well and gave them both for man u. Yeah you can't argue about it now. Ed do you see any wingers coming in January? Don't see how we can make do without wingers.

{Editor's Note: Marveaux.}

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09 Jan 2011 18:36:36
Liverpool Rumours
Look at the dodgy sightings. . . howard webb at todays game lol

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09 Jan 2011 18:35:17
Liverpool Rumours
{ed's note - personally I wouldn't be bothered if we did sell Gerrard for 20m, there are far more important things to worry about than one player. What matters more is getting some wide players in, we can't keep making do for the rest of the season.}

you on drugs? gerrard for 20 mil? and who are we gunna replace him with

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09 Jan 2011 18:34:56
Liverpool Rumours
Same drab performance. Kenny has aged 10 yrs already. There is no money to spend. We're in the same predicament as under Gillette n Hicks. We have sold to the wrong people, . . again. We need cash, and quick. At least £200 million to get us out of this mess. If anyone thinks that was a good performance they need help. Middle East is the only place where you will get that kind of cash. Don't, for one minute, tell me we had no offers from Mid East. The Yonks would rather spend $50 million on a baseball player! For h* *s sake! Arabs thrive on competition. Why'd you think Qatar want to buy Utd? City, that's why. They want to outdo them, outspend them, and, if they do buy them, they will. Where will that leave us? I'll tell you where, up s*eep creek, with no hope of ever regaining our place at the top table.

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09 Jan 2011 18:33:05
Liverpool Rumours
De Rossi from roma will sign 20m strong defensive central midfielder. Lucas to Valencia 10m Ken Aguero seen playing right back for manure today. That was kept quiet!

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09 Jan 2011 18:29:42
ha little scouse cry babies we deservably one and you just cannot deal with how much better we were and that most of your team are thugs

glory glory BERBATOV

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09 Jan 2011 18:24:20
"Ed", Do you not agree that Webb did not have the best of days at the office, his decisions were just a touch one-sided in favour of the Scum.

1. Berbeslof dove having not been touched, linesman who was in the best position to see the incident didn't flag, so it should not have been a penalty and the Cheating t* t should have been yellow carded.

2. Rafael, no more than 20sec's before the tackle which saw Stevie G sent off, jumped in two footed leaving the ground when he saw Meireles coming in for a 50/ 50 ball, player not punished.

3. The Stevie G sending off, Webb never even saw the tackle facing the other way and it was not clear whether the linesman saw anything either so I amazed how he came to HIS decision. But I got to admit it was a red card.

4. Giggs dove in the box in the second in a bid to get another penalty, player not punished.

Webb is supposed to be the best ref in the country, but on today's performance as well as some of the games he has officiated between the Scum and ourselves, you would be forgiven for thinking he was a manc in disguise. There were other little incidents that went unpunished, but those above were the main ones.
Moving on, better performance all round, looked more solid at the back with the exception of Aurelio, as the game went on we started pressing the manc defence forcing the odd mistake, but were are still miles off from were we should be, but patience is the key and some decent new arrivals in the Transfer Window.
Finally HTF did Ferguson's Stoodge big fat Sam and Southgate come up with Berbeslof for MOTM, should have been either Kelly or Pepe.

Redbarron113

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09 Jan 2011 18:23:24
Anyone bored?

stick this on.

real madrid v villareal. sky sports 1, now. excellent game, end to end stuff and football being played properly.

ed, you know anything about villareal's manager? he's got these lads playing like barca. really getting at real and theyre away from home.

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09 Jan 2011 18:21:30
09 Jan 2011 16:32:03
Was watchn the game on line with Martin Tyler commentating, my god he has a lump in his pants for giggs. Actually sratch that he seems to have feelings for everything to do with manure. He kept making references to how big the gap was between us and them. God i HATE Sky pundits and commentators but especially Tyler and anti red Gray. Its like they made a pact with the scum in 92 to love and support them no matter what.
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09 Jan 2011 18:21:11
Liverpool Rumours
If Torres is staying put, only thing that will make me sure of that is if the owners offered money for new players. can't see him staying if not much money is offered

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09 Jan 2011 18:20:22
Liverpool Rumours
Ed do you think kenny can get the best out of thm fringe players the like of babel n jonjo but especially getting joe cole back to the form what was always an pain in our apse aswelll as the mancs?

{Editor's Note: Possibly - but Babel may still leave.}

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09 Jan 2011 18:17:44
Just a quick question, with gerrard out for 3 matches and carra out as well will reina get the captaincy or will it go to sum1 else. by the way great to see the team playing like one especially when we went down to 10 men, i think we dealt with the w* ks i mean mancs well especiallydown theflanks
huddz red

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09 Jan 2011 18:17:32
Absolutely 'wonderful' to see Liverpool hater and friend of fergie as ITV pundit today. Also what about Owens little dig at the club.

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09 Jan 2011 18:15:04
Liverpool Rumours
Why does everybody think this "macca" is some kind of fortune teller? No offense but jsut becuz he got one thing rite plus a few people said hes getting sacked right after the match.

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09 Jan 2011 18:15:00
Liverpool Rumours
Suarez and Arda turan are a must in january, that will see us thru til the summer, our season is now officially over.Lets start building now

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09 Jan 2011 18:14:54
Torres needs some help. Perhaps Kenny could now return as our new number 7. We need a Peter Beardsley or similar.

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09 Jan 2011 18:13:06
Liverpool Rumours
Yet again fergie's pet ref webb gives him a favourable decision, we don't have 11/ 15 players to make a squad to take on the top 4 right now but shelvey should play in the stevie g role, lets buy a good defender l/ side winger and support for nando.As for motm berbatov my apse it was pepe. For those who go week in and out we need NOISE PASSION and a reason to believe

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09 Jan 2011 18:11:55
Liverpool Rumours
ha we are carp we need new players complete overhaul take advantage of spanish interest of gerrard and torres and we might be able to waste another 250 million on unknown talent that doesn't work

ian rush to the laptop

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09 Jan 2011 18:10:57
Linda said(webb is, how do you say politely'''a challenge to agree with, even by referee satndards)classic,

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09 Jan 2011 18:07:39
Even john henrys beautiful wife linda is having a go at webb but in a polite way, god i love her, lol, jimmybosun

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09 Jan 2011 18:02:03
Liverpool Rumours
09 Jan 2011 16:46:20
"Martin kelly was like a brick wall at right back- he should play more
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09 Jan 2011 17:59:43
Liverpool Rumours
Torres today was a damn right disgrace.
He was lazy and arrogant almost with the attitude of i won't move unless its on a plate.
I was made up when the king took him off.
Today was the day he had to prove us all he still has passion but yet again he let the fans down.
i honestly think he thinks he is bigger than the club and would happily cash in now and replace with a stiker who will work for not only the club and manager but for the badge.
I think its fair to say torres' time is up. regretfully.

Martin Kelly a definate boost and i was almost certain he was to get MOTM and then berba wtf.

glen johnson will be used as a rw, he is not at melwood for the next few days due to his missus having a kid.

stephen ireland unveiled wednesday.
Nzogbia Friday.

And a double strike swoop

All this in time for EVERTON.

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09 Jan 2011 17:59:36
Liverpool Rumours
ED -

Is gerrard out of the blackpool game or does the ban start after?

Anyway- are we all convinced now that Kuyt is not good enough to start as our wideman week in week out?

We lack so much pace it is untrue and we have nobody with the fight and tenacity to put that tackle in and get the team and crowd on top. . Gerrard tried but unfortunately Webb is a manc lover! This is where we miss Mascherano. . the number of times his pitbull like work would get the kop in full voice.


Who feels Banega would be better than that Mvilla?

Hes young, composed, quick and v similar to Masch.

We also need a wideman- I wouldn't go for Young - hes just a jumpd up little hero. And bcoz hes english apparently hes worth £20m. . no chance!

PETER NUNN YNWA * * * * *

{Editor's Note: Ban is immediate I believe.}

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09 Jan 2011 17:57:29
Just heard the post match reaction of Kenny Dalglish on BBC. . . . Lovely, Witty and fantastic. . Finally we have (after Benitez) a man who calls a SPADE a SPADE. . . . . Short and crisp. . . .he made his point. . . .And I am beginning to hate the British press. . . .Why don't they give Liverpool legends their due? . .

We played well. . . . We don't mind losing as long as the effort is there. . .What I liked the most today were (not only Kelly and Agger but) the substitutions. . . A good manager must make good substitutions. . .Either you have it in you (like Mourinho, Hiddink) or you don't (Benitez, Hodgson). . . .we were comfortable with the ball and not afraid of it as in the Hodgson era. . .Lots and lots of positives. . .

and yes. . . .Hats off to HOWARD WEBB. .I doubted he could put in a better display than the WC final. . .But he has proved me wrong. . .HOWLER HOWLER HOWLER. . I am sure he will go on to become the next GRAHAM POLL. . .

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09 Jan 2011 17:56:57
After today's game, wait until KK has a couple of training sessions, we will be even better. Completely different LFC today. Roll on Blackpool game.

Lee73

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09 Jan 2011 17:54:01
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Can't fault the players today, a whole-hearted committed performance, its a shame it was 11 v 12 then 10 vs 12! How Howard Webb is viewed as the best in the game is beyond me. . If it was 11 vs 11, I think we could have at least drawn that game, as we were relatively comfortable at the back. Agger and Skrtel were solid at the back, Kelly did very well against Giggs and Evra, considering MU tried to get at him, Aurelio lasted 90mins, Kuyt ran himself into the ground - it was the 1st time i have ever seen him exhausted!, Lucas was good (but needs to improve his 1st touch, it gets him into trouble), Meireles' passing was very good, Maxi was a little unlucky to be subbed as i thought he was our best attacking threat, Torres looked more spritely, but only had 1 chance - we need to create more in order to get him scoring again, and Gerrard didn't have enough time to get into the game

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09 Jan 2011 17:51:38
LFC fans take time to allow the King to progress this team. We have been wonderful over the years and lets not becoming crazy with changing every manager each time we get into a hole.
Lets get behind our team up to the end of the season and get the players we need to improve our team.

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09 Jan 2011 17:48:33
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The substitution of Torres was the correct thing to do given the circumstances. We were down to 10 men, he had run himself ragged (first time in a long time) and he didn't look like scoring. You could see in his face as he reached KK at the touchline that he wasn't upset about it.

Kelly looked good - very good. Shelvey shows enormous potential. Lucas earn his salt today as did Kuyt. Agger showed bits of the class we have been waiting for and Skrtel looked more solid. Maxi - though not inspiring - put in a decent game as did Meireles and and Aurelio.

Reina very nearly stopped the pen and had a solid game.

All in all the team (both before and after the sending off) looked far more balanced, far more confident and far happier in themselves.

If they can maintain that composure for the Blackpool game then I think we will be looking at a Torres hat-trick and possibly an appearance by Pacheco.

Can't wait.

RED LENIN

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09 Jan 2011 17:47:51
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How long has Torres got left on his contract and does anyone think with Kenny signing till the summer will boost him as a player and as a person i would like to see another striker to at least try and help Torres i think he is board and wants out but at the same time he is a very loyal person and just like any footballer just wants to win things who would make Torres shine again Adebayor offers strength so he could play the target man role and let Torres feed off him

Raina

Kelly Skrtel/ Wilson Agger Aurelio?Insua

Johnson Meireles Lucas Babel/ jojo

GerrardTorres Adebayor

i think Lucas and Garrard could swap in and out with Adebayor coming in to help Torres

and if everyone who keeps asking for new midfielder where would you play Gerrard, Lucas, Meireles, jojo, Poulson, maxi, babel, if a new mid came in. I think the players we have can do a job for us if coached and trained properly

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09 Jan 2011 17:47:47
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How refreshing to see the lads play with some passion at the theatre of cheats! kelly was mom for me and its onwards and upwards! 3 good signings due this wk so its happy days. ps if you happen to read this site Mr Webb your a top top w. . r!

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09 Jan 2011 17:47:42
Liverpool Rumours
Howard webb was over heard asking fergie was he entitled to his christmas bonus now

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09 Jan 2011 17:44:15
I didn't watch the post match comments mate because i was so f*cking angry that Allardyce and co give a cheat MOTM and didn't want to listen to what they had to say. But i'll watch it later to see what Kenny said.

Blair Mayne YNWA
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Very true mate, the mind boggles when two great football pundits give a cheat motm, but then again they could not give it to the other cheat Howard Webb, or could they.
Redeyedhector {ed's note - Fat Sam is the biggest cheat in the game, hardly a surprise decision really.}

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09 Jan 2011 17:43:54
Although we lost it is a good day for Liverpool - the return of the King.
It was great the look on Fergies face when asked about Kenny's return - pure look of worry on his face.
Stand aside Whiskey nose the King is back!

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09 Jan 2011 17:42:05
Berbatov man of the match, what a complete disgrace, itv divers/ cheats do prosper u should be ashamed.
Oh ye before i go Howard(will never see a world cup again)Webb is a c* t! !

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09 Jan 2011 17:41:35
Ed I know the Gerrard tackle was a red, but what annoys me is that he didn't even see the tackle. All he knew was what the man united players told him. You really think he can give a red if he didn't know what happened? You watch the reply, he couldn't see the tackle. The penalty also was awful, couldn't see it properly and didn't even ask his assistant. The 2 decisions lost us the game. I think if we got them we would of won.

So how can he give a red if he didn't see the tackle ed? {ed's note - I would hope that is what assistants are for. I do agree he is a very poor referee, but I am not going to crucify him for making the right decision when there are so many wrong ones there!}

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09 Jan 2011 17:41:28
This is theturdz speaking
howerd webb is not only dictating were the title goes with his bias towards manu he now has a say in were the cups will go this can't carry on the powers that be must look at his performances at old trafford and see that he is giving all dodgy decisions in manures favor

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09 Jan 2011 17:35:06
09 Jan 2011 17:09:04
Im getting sick and tired of idiots blaming lucas everytime we lose. its getting BORING! . NO MENTION f* *ING GERRARD GETTING SENT OFF THE DICK. THANKS ALOT TIT.

he has done more than enough over the years i find it too hard to blame him there is too much he has done lol

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09 Jan 2011 17:33:07
Ed who is honestly the better player (not whether which one we need) out of alexis sanchez (udinese calcio) and javier pastore (palermo)

cheers {ed's note - tough question, I prefer Sanchez, so exciting to watch that lad play, but overall Pastore is probably a better player.}

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09 Jan 2011 17:32:53
Really Pissed off Joe Cole is injured again, what a disaster of a signing he has been.

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09 Jan 2011 17:32:15
Liverpool Rumours
Susu. . .

Anyone catch the kids on LFC.TV yesterday? This kids looks better and better everytime i see him play.

Ed - Do you think King Kenny will bring him into the first team squad this season?

RedTrev {ed's note - I expect him to get on the bench for the next game myself. I know Kenny rates him highly, but he had no chance of getting on the bench today after playing yesterday! Hard to say though, Kenny is his own man and often used to make unexpected decisions, even when he first came into management.}

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09 Jan 2011 17:32:07
The thing you need to remember about scum is its not luck its the gobs* te refs that dare not give anything against them. U can go through a season and find something in every game. West brom last week it was a pen but they won't give it. When scum say chelsea bought the league that's all they have done, I remember when they got Veron 28mil that has got to be more than 10yrs ago and we still haven't beat that. Now I know Lucas and kuyt work hard but its not enough, kuyt I'd get rid of Lucas will do as cover. Kelly has got to keep his place I think kenny will do that, put glen on rw he is dangerous goin forward just can't defend. I know the squad is thin but if they don't have a lot to spend in Jan just get 1 player 2 if we can but no more squad players we have enough filling up the starting 11.

LAVERS

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09 Jan 2011 17:31:43
My team for Blackpool. .not sure if Gerrard is suspended, then Lucas for Stevie.

Reina

Kelly. . . .Skrtel. . . . Agger. . . .Aurelio Johnson. . Gerrard. . Maireles. . Jovanovic Babel. . . . Torres

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09 Jan 2011 17:31:01
Liverpool Rumours
WTF Berbatwot man of the match - surely even a neutral can see it was Kelly

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09 Jan 2011 17:28:43
Liverpool Rumours
Jus to add to that point was he the ref wen roy carroll scooped the ball outta the net for utd v spurs ?

{editor: I believe that was Mark Clattenburg}
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That was Clattenburg Ed. Was Webb the ref in the carling cup final and refused to send Vidic off for a foul on Agbonlahor and just gave the pen?

Blair Mayne YNWA

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09 Jan 2011 17:24:31
Was delighted to see Shelvey come on. he showed some fight. i know the free kick was a bit mad but hes got balls and passion. feel a great sense of pride ater today.
LfordRed

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09 Jan 2011 17:24:11
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That was terrible today i hate howard webb

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09 Jan 2011 17:22:59
The penalty was a no no. .dive at best. Gerrard's sending off was a 50:50 and Carrick came of worse. simple. He came into the back of Gerrard and hurt himself the poor souitherner. Never a red, maybe a yellow. .my view is should have been nothing. Mr Webb should be ashamed and after me supporting him after his World Cup final exploits.

P.S. Did not Notice Gerrard on the pitch before or after is red. We played pretty good without him and may in the future? Overated in my book nad believes the hype!

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09 Jan 2011 17:21:59
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Is it just me or did anyone else see just seconds before the Stevie G's red card Rafael's tackle (both feet were off the ground when he and Meireles went for teh ball). I just want to make sure i was watching the same game us Mr Webb. Why wasn't a free kick awarded to liverpool and Rafael punished. If Mr Webb is going to follow the letter of the law then he MUST do so at all time and not only when its in favour of United.

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09 Jan 2011 17:20:27
What are the liverpool players twitters? thanks

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09 Jan 2011 17:18:21
Liverpool Rumours
Made up Kenny took Torres off, proved no one is bigger than the club.

Macca

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09 Jan 2011 17:17:56
Liverpool Rumours
Kenny Dalglish spoke of his desire to 'bring back the happy memories' for the Liverpool fans who today welcomed his return with rapture.

Chants of 'Dalglish' could be heard throughout our 1-0 FA Cup third round defeat to Manchester United - and the man himself admitted he was overcome with emotion to be back after 20 years away from the Liverpool dugout.

"The reception of the fans was unbelievable, " said Dalglish. "It crossed my mind to do a Mourinho or a Gary Neville and run down the line to their corner but I never made it!

"But the fans have always held a special place for me and my family and thankfully they've got a long memory of those happy times. I hope we can bring them back. Their support for me today was superb.

"I cannot see into the future. All I can do is promise the same as when I signed in 1977 - 100 per cent commitment from Kenny Dalglish.

"The next six months will be fantastic for me. If we put as much effort and commitment to the cause as we have today then we should be alright.

"It's my responsibility to encourage the players and improve them, and hopefully we'll get better."

Asked what his old adversary Alex Ferguson said to him before kick-off, Dalglish replied: "He said 'Welcome back'. I thought he'd be up here first to warm you up before I came in to be honest!"

Liverpool lost 1-0 following a controversially awarded penalty after less than a minute of play, Daniel Agger making the slightest contact with Dimitar Berbatov.

Ryan Giggs duly converted, and though the Reds initially looked good for an equaliser, their task was made all the more difficult by the straight red card flashed by referee Howard Webb to Steven Gerrard for a strong challenge on Michael Carrick.

Dalglish added: "Obviously I'm not going to be pleased to lose a match but the most important thing for us is what we got out of it - that we had a great deal of effort and commitment from the players. Their endeavour and enthusiasm and commitment to the cause was matched by the supporters and if we get everyone pulling in the same direction we'll have a good chance to improve things going forward.

"I don't think any one of our players could be faulted for effort and commitment. Yes, they might pass it better or finish it better but this is a hard place to come.

"To concede a penalty in the first minute and get a man sent off was always going to make it difficult for us but the boys stuck to the task. Up until they hit the post late in the second half they had the penalty shot and very little else. If we can restrict the top teams to that then it bodes well for us."

Dalglish substituted Fernando Torres with 14 minutes remaining.

Quizzed on the striker's form, he said: "We couldn't have got any more from Fernando in terms of effort and commitment. He ran himself into the ground. It's a great sign he's determined to get himself back and silence any critics he's got. He did everything that was expected of him on the day.

"When you look at the lads, it doesn't matter how good a player you are - you've still got to have a bit of confidence. And we've got to get that confidence back in him.

"We've got to get the players confident and believing in themselves. Once we get that then we'll move forward."

The Reds had to do without Glen Johnson, whose wife fell into labour.

"The lads were thrown into a wee bit of turmoil yesterday with Glen Johnson's wife going to have a baby and it's 100 per cent proper that he wants to be with her, " said Dalglish.

"Young Martin Kelly comes in and he's as good as anyone on the pitch. That's great encouragement for Martin and for all the young boys out there. Jonjo Shelvey came on and was a wee bit ambitious with his free-kick, but at least he's looked up and noticed something."

Dalglish was asked if he would appoint any new coaches to help him turn Liverpool's season around.

He replied: "I don't know - I've only just turned up. If there are people who have left positions then obviously they'll have to be filled."

Regarding possible new signings, The King added: "If somebody had said to me, this is your squad of players, would you take the job? I'd have said yes with the squad of players we've got. I've got no pre-conceived ideas of players I have in mind to bring in. Whether there are other targets there that the club had in mind before I came in, I don't know. And I shouldn't know because I wasn't in a privileged enough position to know."

Reporters wanted to know more about how Dalglish's return came about.

He told them: "I was on a boat, I was happy! Then I got a phone call from John Henry and he said 'Do you want to come and look after the team until the end of the season?'

"Being a professional athlete I was at the bar!

"It's brilliant. It's amazing how quickly the memory comes back to you. It doesn't seem that long ago that I was in the dressing room.

"It's a club that means a great deal to me and my family."

barry proudfoot

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09 Jan 2011 17:17:23
Kenny was great today?
What could we fault him for?
Subs? - He made them nice and early and babel caused problems.
Selection- brilliant!
Commitment- Superb
Unity- Amazing
Post match interview- brilliant!
He did everything he could im not just saying that cos he is kenny super!
It is so clear we need a winger a quality one

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09 Jan 2011 17:17:02
Liverpool Rumours
Whoever said this "Take out torres when we r a goal down with 15min to go?what the hell is he thinking?(thats what u said when rafa did the same thing last season)" is showing a naivety. What did Wenger say yesterday "I don't care what the result is as long as it's not a draw". This shows what the managers think of the FA cup. Kenny's priority is to get as far up the league as possible and to get the players playing with some spirit. He needs to protect his best players - he's got 2 league games this week after all - why flog Torres into the ground.
As for Howard the Duck - terrible referee. Berbatov is a cheat and ITV are a joke for making him MOM.

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09 Jan 2011 17:15:48
Liverpool Rumours
Dont get me wrong i think Torres is superb when he is on form, but how long do we wait for him to find his form?
What about we take 40/ 50m and buy 2 top strikers. LLorente and Suarez or Nagredo and Aguero any 2 of the four mentioned? ?.

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09 Jan 2011 17:12:21
Liverpool Rumours
We've been withotu stevie for 6 weeks and we did well?
3-0 villa
3-0 west ham?
2-1 away to spurs robbed thanks a lot konchesky.
RIGHT ed i know everyone has done this but i can't resist a review!
Pepe- Best Keeper in the premiership hands down.

Defence- Flipping solid as! Aurelio top freekick so unlucky :(! Kelly- Future star. Skrtel looked okay didn't lunge into stupid tackled kept his head! Agger is world class no contact never a penalty.
8/ 10 defence brilliant stuff.

Midfield- We didn't have the best midfield in the premiership for most of it i thought we played well lucas is sort of average he has improved greatly sort of like danny murphy i think he will be a good player he just needs to choose wether he is going to be more defensive or attacking. great effort son. Meireles needs to beef up that's all he is lacking. We looked confident we didn't rush things we just missed gerrards creativity!
7/ 10 Good stuff guys!

Attack- We chased and chased and that was good to see guys we badly need winger i repeat BADLY! Replace kuyt with Glen. not too much to say on attack we did our best just away at OT tough game to be robbed 1-0 was decent.

Subs- Truly fantastic subs gave the players enough time thanks kenny not hodgson 10 minutes to go throw Jova on!

Overall - Im really proud today havent got any banter from any manc fans !
DONT SELL BABEL is my final point
YWNA !
20 years out of the game? Lost his touch. my arse !
thoughts on kenny ed? {ed's note - he did all we can ask, he got the players playing for him, it was a huge improvement.}

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09 Jan 2011 17:09:59
Martain Kelly man if the match today. There's work to be done but getting beat 1 nil at united by a pen with 10 men is not a huge deal, I like the fact that Kenny brought on shelvey something that wouldn, t have happened before and he didn't look out of his depth. Hope we progress from here and Kenny is successful

Bob loblaw

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09 Jan 2011 17:09:21
Agree with most of that kb but thought kuyt was awful and can't even manage the simple skill of ball control

allred

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Kuyt worked so hard today, up and down, covering. Doing the spadework when we were down to 10 men. Cant fault him for that.

KB

would never doubt kuyt's work rate KB but surely the abillity to control the ball is very basic and its not just this game its most games, but in fairness it isn't just him.
i guess we will have to agree to disagree

allred

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09 Jan 2011 17:09:04
Im getting sick and tired of idiots blaming lucas everytime we lose. its getting BORING! . NO MENTION f* *ING GERRARD GETTING SENT OFF THE DICK. THANKS ALOT TIT.

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09 Jan 2011 17:06:25
Totally agree with you there Blair.Did you see how gutted Kenny was at the after match interview, we all say that no one is bigger then the club, King Kenny comes close.
Redeyedhector
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I didn't watch the post match comments mate because i was so f*cking angry that Allardyce and co give a cheat MOTM and didn't want to listen to what they had to say. But i'll watch it later to see what Kenny said.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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09 Jan 2011 17:05:38
Ramythered"

Another twit who doesn't understand the game or Torres' commitment to Liverpool. And over-rating the performances of Shelvey and Ngog on the basis of them being young. And under-rating the performance of Lucas who has been carrying the midfield and needs a rest. People like you will only realise how good Torres is when he leaves

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what game did you watch mate twit (LMFAO) please torres is a overrated pile of donkey dung who has giving nothing to our club this year or in facted the back end of last year the sooner people like you grow up and see what he is doing the better stop living in the past and the lucas thing ha ha he spent the most of the match on his bum after being robbed of the ball by the mank scum jojo and ngog played very well agger and kelly outstanding these lads have points to prove hunger and heart torres makes his £100k+ and goes home and laughs at us and has add's nothing to the team this season all this he gets no service is bull he had 5 or 6 balls played to him today and have game up on everyone just one volly is all he could manage your telling me that where gonna miss him we'll miss him like a bad case of crabs

RAMYTHEREDS YNWA {ed's note - Lucas has an excellent game, he carried Meireles and Shelvey, neither of which seemed to have any first touch today. I have never seen two players control the ball so badly so often as those two did today. I don't know what was up with either, but both played extremely poorly.}

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09 Jan 2011 17:04:35
Liverpool Rumours
Just heard that Howard Webb has signed a new 5 year contract with United!

Lovett32

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09 Jan 2011 17:03:46
Liverpool Rumours
Cannot understand the buzz around honda.
Was watching japan vs jordan tonight.was not at all impressed by him.He was played on the right wing, could not run behind the defender, always passing backwards.
Also the one freekick he took was closer too the corner flag than the goal.Better spend that cash on someone else imo. {ed's note - oh well if he played badly in one game, completely out of position as well, he must be rubbish. Thankfully we have you here to inform us all! Sorry I couldn't resist the sarcasm mate. But please don't judge him on one performance, he is better than that honestly.}

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09 Jan 2011 17:02:32
Dont know if anyone has posted this yet, but did you guys see how when Torres was substituted he didn't sulk or shake his head, he literally ran off the pitch and then shook Kennys hand and embraced him. Shows how much he respects the King. Great stuff. Ed your thoughts on that? {ed's note - there is not one player at the club who doesn't have respect for the King. One of the players messaged me to watch Liverpool TV yesterday so that I could join in the celebrations with them, just before it was announced. They are delighted to have Kenny in charge, everyone at the club has the utmost respect for him.}

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09 Jan 2011 17:02:20
My view on the match after watching it and not highlights:
Berbastuff is a diving cheat it should never have been a pen.
Gerrard's tackle was a 50:50 and Carrick came off worse hurting himself therefore should never have been a red. . . . if it was for raised studs on Gerrard's behalf then a few other players should have gone before and later. .

Ref should never be allowed to get anywhere near a World cup after that display.

In terms of our performance, I think we played with more heart, more discipline and more invention. Considering KD has only had 24 hours to work with the squad as manger I was quite pleased with our performance especially after going down to 10 men. . . .personally, I never noticed Gerrard was not on the pitch before or after he left.

Here is to the future and youth!

IggyPop {ed's note - will people please understand that jumping off the ground with both feet is a straight red. Doesn't matter whether you get the ball or not, it IS a straight red. Did you see Kenny arguing about it? Please understand that the players all know this as well, it was a stupid mistake by Gerrard who had a rush of blood.}

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09 Jan 2011 17:02:17
Players that impressed today - Shelvey (hungry and stole the ball in tackles - much better than Lucas) Kelly (got skinned once by Giggs and not again - good future) Babel looked hungry, Reina - what a player and person! i just hope he continues to become a legend.

Players that did not impress - Agger looked slow, Torres depends far too much on service to him.

Berba disgraceful dive! Lost all respect for the guy and WEBB - 2 big decisions in15 min that changed the game.

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09 Jan 2011 17:01:43
You honestly thought lucas had a good game?

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09 Jan 2011 17:01:14
Liverpool Rumours
One of the positive note tonite is many of us r stand behind our manager.keep it up.no matter what happen, we must trust him.n remember, kenny is a MANAGER, not a MAGICIAN.if the result r not in our favour, do believe him.just like what u did tonite.i'm happy when many of u r slagging me when i criticise kenny.u can never be a big club if u keep changing ur manager.unless u have a billionaire chairman.
In Kenny I Believe.

Shebby

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09 Jan 2011 17:00:36
Liverpool Rumours
From Manchester United captain Rio Ferdinand on Twitter: "To be in the fourth round is what we wanted and what we got, such a great feeling to win against one of our fiercest rivals. Definite penalty.

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09 Jan 2011 17:00:24
There would of been UPROAR if hodgson would of took torres off. what a joke. no one will say nothing about it on tv. knocks me sick!


fair comment ed. but i don't see bringing ngog on as positive? fair enough the other two. but everyone would of made silly comments about taking el nino off if it was ANY other manager. i remember rafa doin it when we had difficult fixtures the week later. but no one cared about the reasons behind his choice. its so obvious. i just think people are going to make excuses for whatever kenny does wrong. ALL OF A SUDDEN ITS THE PLAYERS FAULT! {ed's note - isn't that how it should be? I fail to see your point at all. Hodgson was a disaster because everything he did was defensive and was all about mediocrity. Kenny is a winner and you can see that in everything he does.}

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09 Jan 2011 17:00:11
Pains me to say it but i thought gerrard deserved red card. . It is the penalty that did my head in. . a blatant dive. . . and to be honest if that was not given then we would have drawn the game. . I thought that overall we can be encouraged even in defeat. . my only real criticism of the team was that they continue to give posession away too easily. . merelies being the main culprit. . . rome was not built in a day though fellas. . . the passion was there and I thought we more than dealt with them when we were down to ten. . funniest moment has to be shelvley's shot. . and lucas's reaction (stared at him as if to say "are you off your head")
jonnybarnes89-90
p.s don't you just love howard webb!

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09 Jan 2011 16:58:19
Liverpool Rumours
What great news torres is staying put, just hope we can get another world class striker with him, also what great game young kelly had today, this lad is gonna be something special, great to see us play with bit more commitment , looks good for future well done kenny .

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09 Jan 2011 16:58:00
Is Kenny Dalglish taking the moral high ground - unlike Ferguson regarding players diving ?

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09 Jan 2011 16:56:45
Lucas had a poor game. Get real I thought he was excellent. The back four played as a unit, threw their bodies on the line and for the first time this season Skrtel looked like a defender. Kelly was excellent and should keep his place.

Attitude, Commitment and the will to play for the shirt was evident. Kuyt looked shot at the end but at Blackpool I would bring in Johnson on the right. Was not sure about Meirless today but Kenny was quick and decisive in making subs.

Overall, yes I am really dissapointed about going out the cup but we had more positives today. Just watched Kenny and by god he's positive, humerous and these players will go that extra step for him. He had the press boys eating out of his hands.

I hope we can bring in a player this week, beat Blackpool and that will bring a surge of extra positiveness throughout the club.

A special word for the fans today who have taken a battering in the media. Truly magnificent a credit to the club.

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09 Jan 2011 16:55:53
There would of been UPROAR if hodgson would of took torres off. what a joke. no one will say nothing about it on tv. knocks me sick!

{Editor Note: I'd imagine it is because Kenny Dalglish was being positive by bringing on attacking players like Babel, Shelvey and N'Gog not to mention the fact that we were positive from start to finish, and Torres wasn't just standing up there while the other 10 defended for 90mins.}

No mate, there would have been UPROAR if either Allardyce or Southgate had criticised ANYTHING the king said, seeing as he knows far more about football than both of them put together. The king is BULLETPROOF. He is a walking legend and no pundit has any right to criticise him in ANY way. You will see this more and more. He has a Fergie-like aura of absolute awesomeness that just puts people in their place. It's called deference. And it suits us. . . .
Can't wait for the Fergie King Kenny banter.
Duckula

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09 Jan 2011 16:53:39
Liverpool Rumours
Sad V Lost. . . . . .
This season vl jus finish i guess top 10. . . . .
V need quality players nyhow. . . .
unless and untill v don't get v won't evn finish top 10. .
Our Bench quality is pathetic no1 there who cam come in as a sub n do something. . . . .
No ball possesion no attack. . . .
Forget abt da wish list atleast get a good playmaker in center and a good winger ASAP. . . . .

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09 Jan 2011 16:52:31
Well played despite the result - like the posiitivity shown by the players! and thought Kelly had a great game. hope he keeps his place for the blackpool game!

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09 Jan 2011 16:51:31
Although we lost, I thought it was one of our better performances of the season. To lose 1-0 to a penalty that shouldn't have been, mostly with only 10 men, away from home and the manager has only took over yesterday, against the best team in England at the moment, is pretty good. Obviously disappointed to lose but there were a lot of positives. Kelly played very well, and the line was well led by Agger. Babel was OK too, and should start just behind Torres next match. Aurelio played well, considering he has not played much game time. Next match I would like to see us start like this;

Reina

Kelly Skrtel Agger Aurelio

Johnson Meireles Lucas Maxi

Babel
Torres

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09 Jan 2011 16:50:18
Liverpool Rumours
Well another defeat at the hands of Man U :-( I though Howard Webb could and should have consulted the linesman! Hope we watches his highlights and spends the next few nights awake! As of Gerrards sending off. . Well a definate yellow!
Why is it that Man U seem to have all the luck! They are playing really average football, and in my view the worst Man U team in 18 odd years! Yet they still win time and time again. . Thought luck evens out over the year. But this rule never seems to apply with them!
Looks like they will win the league by default this year! 19 th trophy handed to them on a plate . . Think I'm going to go down the pub :-(

Good luck Kenny you going to need some ! {ed's note - the refs have been told to immediately red card anyone who jumps into a challenge off the floor. Gerrard's challenge was a straight red, not yellow.}

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09 Jan 2011 16:50:13
I was so pleased torres was taken off i wanted it to happen after about 5 minutes not cos of his performance? i mean once gerrard got sent off it was game over for torres but i didn't want him being smashed! Did you see the way he was being hacked at? it was disgusting rios challenge from behind! Goodness me poor lad the main issue with him is his reputation he is such a fantastic footballer that he is being double teamed and marked hard EVERY game :( same thing is happpening with shrek over at united.

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09 Jan 2011 16:50:13
Howard Webb u F* * * DISGRACE. . Anybody remember the tottenham game 2 seasons ago when they were 2-0 down. .penalty that never was - then what happened? Gerrard was a red - he knew it. Great performance from the lads, much better! Thanks Mr Webb and the cheating s* * that is Berbatov(MotM? ha ha ). .U ruined what would have been a brilliant game. . Long live the King LeeYNWA

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09 Jan 2011 16:48:59
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We lose again now. . .are they any rumours now that King kenny gonna be sack? ?

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09 Jan 2011 16:46:53
To all the ones laying into to Torres and doubting his commitment. Go have a look at all the articles to-day about him saying he will honour his contract. So hopefully you will change your mind and maybe get off his back.

It's the 1st time this season i've been proud of our team performance. I'm not getting carried away because for me the B.Pool match is huge for Kenny especially if we get beat. Then what will people/ fans say about him?

Blair Mayne YNWA

PS. I've only had one text from a mate/ Man'ure fan today. Says it all really!
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totally agree with you there Blair.Did you see how gutted Kenny was at the after match interview, we all say that no one is bigger then the club, King Kenny comes close.
Redeyedhector

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09 Jan 2011 16:46:13
To all those simple uneducated Championship / Football Manager generation slagging off Kenny Daglish for taking Torres off - are you for real? Some reality checks for you:
1 We were one nil down with 10 men - were we going to do something from open play?
2 What had Nando contributed to the game?
3 What would you have done?
4 The decision bears no comparison to decisions by Rafa - games where he did it we were in lead and had not killed game off and usually ended with a draw :(

Kenny Daglish's selection and handling of the game today fills me with confidence and can see positive things happening hopefully keep Kelly at RB and push Johnson forward and find a left winger and another centre forward.

PS the bald headed centre mid for Man Ure had a blinder for them - Webb I think he was called

Red Paddy YNWA

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09 Jan 2011 16:44:55
Well lads. . Couldn't look at the match. Just wondering who played well and who didn't and was gerards tackle bad?
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They all give 100% mate which is all we ask of them. But Martin Kelly for me was outstanding he has a good footballing/ defensive brain already and he was up against Evra and Giggs.

Gerrard's tackle wasn't a horrendous tackle but it was worthy of a red card in my opinion.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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09 Jan 2011 16:44:01
Well it wasn't hard to see that that was Strkel's soundest display. Agger gives us a lot more than just his own performance. However we mustn't lose sight of the fact that Kelly is a centre half and as such must play there alongside Agger for the rest of the season. Aurelio was very dodgy today and showed that defensively he can be a weak link. We need a stand out left back.

Midfield was ok but it was difficult after the yellow, i mean red that was shown to Gerrard. And let us lay off Torres. Given nothing but shadows to chase for the majority of the game. We were unable to put much pressure on them meaning that when Torres did get the ball he didn't have an out other than back.

But seriously, whilst the application and attitude was better today, that shouldn't have been difficult considering what the players have delivered this season.

If there isn't a marked change on the pitch then you can put to bed the argument that it was Hodgson and not the players.

Results gets managers the sack, the players obtain the results. Players have no further wriggle room to get out of.

It's s* t or bust for them for the rest of the season. Dalglish has been quite clever, he's actually got himself into a win-win position.

If he cannot halt the slide, then the players get the blast. If he can, he'll be seen as the Messiah and his reputation will actually be enhanced.

Bob the Red

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09 Jan 2011 16:43:29
Liverpool Rumours
Never a pen but do think it was a silly tackle by gerrard
Hope Roy watched Agger today class centre back need someone along side him maybe a cheeky bid for m Richards unhappy at city?
Thanks to mrs johnsons for having her baby Kelly had a great game

Your views ed ?
Gary moon

Gary

{editor: I thought it was a good game. We can be proud of the performance today.}

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09 Jan 2011 16:41:16
Agree with most of that kb but thought kuyt was awful and can't even manage the simple skill of ball control

allred

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Kuyt worked so hard today, up and down, covering. Doing the spadework when we were down to 10 men. Cant fault him for that.

KB

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09 Jan 2011 16:40:49
"To all the ones laying into to Torres and doubting his commitment. Go have a look at all the articles to-day about him saying he will honour his contract. So hopefully you will change your mind and maybe get off his back.

It's the 1st time this season i've been proud of our team performance. I'm not getting carried away because for me the B.Pool match is huge for Kenny especially if we get beat. Then what will people/ fans say about him?

Blair Mayne YNWA"

Well said, BM. If only some of the others posting in here took a little more of a mature approach or understand football and Liverpool as much as you do.

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09 Jan 2011 16:38:25
Got to say that's the first time ive seen kuyt knackered with 10 minutes to go . good so lads . think we would have won if it was not for the ref .

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09 Jan 2011 16:36:02
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Kenny's done really well the team showed confidence even with one man down. & the substitutes were really awsome. he is givnig the young ones a chance . he believs in the young lads. this what we need from a manager. . am sure poulsen would do worser than jonjo . kennys the right man. if it isn't for that webb c* t we should have won it. .

ED; whats your thought ed, on the game. .?

{editor: A good game overall, Gerrard did deserve the sending off on paper, it was reckless. Fergie's new signing (Howard Webb) had a good game.}

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09 Jan 2011 16:35:56
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Ok we lost to the scum but the overall play was promising two wrong decisions destroyed the game. What to buy? Striker is so obvious it's untrue. I'd like to see suarez. Wingers mata and turan. Richards as cover for rb/ cb and taiwo as lb. Ok maybe a few quid but get rid of deadwood ( poulsen/ konk/ Jovanovic/ insuia/ ngog/ etc) and maybe just maybe. I'm sure transfer targets will be sort after soon. Hopefully no c/ Cole crap anymore. Let's just get behind the boys and move up the table a little. Good luck Kenny.

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09 Jan 2011 16:35:24
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Although a huge blow, gerrards suspension could be a blessing in disguise. over the next 3 games the team will have to play together, rather than feed everything through gerrard. i expect a backlash at blackpool. 4-0

ryan c belfast ynwa

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09 Jan 2011 16:34:39
"Sad day today I really think we could of got a replay
if torres gave a s* t we looked so much more dangerus
as soon as he went off what you think ed do you also think
will be givin funds would like to think we could still
attract. Big players but our youth that played to day
did them selfs proud maybe we should look in the res.
rather then spending big jojo kelly egg nog give yourselfs
a bow lucas sorry buddy you looked slow tired and
weak we need strong players for a mid and torres thanx for
the goals and everything you have done but £40million
for somone who doesn't want to be their we could reinvest
in 3 - 4 good young players for that what do you think ed

ramythered"

Another twit who doesn't understand the game or Torres' commitment to Liverpool. And over-rating the performances of Shelvey and Ngog on the basis of them being young. And under-rating the performance of Lucas who has been carrying the midfield and needs a rest. People like you will only realise how good Torres is when he leaves

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09 Jan 2011 16:32:06
Liverpool Rumours
After that performance RH could phone a few of the players up and say why didn't you play like that for me.

Obviously KD gave a more inspiring team talk and told the likes of Kelly, Aurelio, Babel, Ngog, show me what you can do and i'll keep you.

Gerrard red may be appealed but ITV shows KD looking at the screen and he wasn't that angry.

If there was no penalty we would of had a draw and that would of been a fair result.

Also i think Kuyt needs to work on passing because the amount of times he just shifted the ball back to the Mancs was endless and he didn't put Torres or Ngog through all game.

Great decision putting Ngog for Torres. Shows he's not afraid to take the big players off.

Needed some more width but overall that was a top 6 performance.

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09 Jan 2011 16:32:03
Was watchn the game on line with Martin Tyler commentating, my god he has a lump in his pants for giggs. Actually sratch that he seems to have feelings for everything to do with manure. He kept making references to how big the gap was between us and them. God i HATE Sky pundits and commentators but especially Tyler and anti red Gray. Its like they made a pact with the scum in 92 to love and support them no matter what.

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09 Jan 2011 16:31:55
What a day makes!
It was like a breath of fresh air!
Kenny's first 11 was spot on with what he had at his disposal.
Kelly should now be given a long run in the starting 11.
All the players showed up today and gave there best against 12 manure players (Webb).
Very positive signs today and most of all a manager who shows full respect, experiance and enthusiasm before and after a match.

Well done Kenny and welcome back!

RedAk1

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09 Jan 2011 16:31:21
In reply to

09 Jan 2011 15:39:29
Different day, same s* t - sack dalglish

why don't you just jog on pinning up you howard webb poster in your bedroom, i feel so sorry for you!

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09 Jan 2011 16:30:48
Well lads. . Couldn't look at the match. Just wondering who played well and who didn't and was gerards tackle bad?

{editor: In my opinion I don't think anyone played bad, Babel, Kelly and Shelvey played really well when they came on. Gerrard's tackle was bad.}

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09 Jan 2011 16:30:35
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If Howard Webb is England's best then god help us all. If I was a referee I'd be insulted.
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Totally agree mate!

Howard Webb is guilty of 2 so called pens against Spurs for Man'ure. He's guilty of 2 so called pens against us for Man'ure.

My point is if this wasn't Howard (the Manc) Webb then the FA would have had him doing Championship games 18 months ago never mind another Man'ure game.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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09 Jan 2011 16:30:20
Liverpool Rumours
You can see the difference kenny has had on the players so far. Under hodgson we got beat 3-1(I think) by man utd and under kenny 'exact same squad' we have lost only by one goal which was a penalty (shouldn't of been as berbatov is a diving c***.)
Martin kelly was like a brick wall at right back- he should play more
We need another winger (preferably turan)
A striker to partner torres then he will have more to do with the game( preferably suarez, negrado, toivonen)
And I was happy with aurelio at the LB today pity he is injury prone
Play daniel ayala more aswel seeing as though he's back from loan
Got to say tho agger and skrtel were like a brick wall today
Reina was my man of the match after his like 6 saves in a row
We should sign Joaquin from valencia for the right wing and then I would say were sorted what do you think of this ed
Thanks {ed's note - I do like Joaquin myself, I think he would suit the Prem.}

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09 Jan 2011 16:29:58
Well lads. . Couldn't look at the match. Just wondering who played well and who didn't and was gerards tackle bad?

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09 Jan 2011 16:29:51
"Why havnt we got rid of lucas? another poor display just not upto the standard!"

Another poor quality comment from someone who doesn't understand football - go and read the ratings after the match and see.

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09 Jan 2011 16:29:45
Firstly. .well done lads great team effort, I actually felt something today i havent felt for ages watching us: pride!
they tried and tried.
now it is clear, sell torres and johnson play kelly, buy turan, right side sorted!
see how marveaux does or get a left winger ie mata and a striker. should get enough from gj and ft sales if its needed and if we match the effort today, coupled with an extra bit of something going forward we will be okay.
think about it.
free goal, man down, against top of the prem and WE are sposed to be in such a mess and it was only one nil!
btw webb you are a coward, studs to sternum in the w/ c didn't get a red but at ot. .fergie must have been horny, two blow jobs in one match is record even for you! {ed's note - what happened in the WC is irrelevant to the sending off today. All the players get spoken to by the refs about what is going to be cracked down on that season. This season it is the feet off the floor lunge that is being cracked down on, whether the ball is won or not you are not allowed to jump in. Gerrard knows this and he still jumped in. He let the team down, again, he needs to cut that out of his game.}

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09 Jan 2011 16:28:44
Liverpool Rumours
Sad day today I really think we could of got a replay
if torres gave a s* t we looked so much more dangerus
as soon as he went off what you think ed do you also think
will be givin funds would like to think we could still
attract. Big players but our youth that played to day
did them selfs proud maybe we should look in the res.
rather then spending big jojo kelly egg nog give yourselfs
a bow lucas sorry buddy you looked slow tired and
weak we need strong players for a mid and torres thanx for
the goals and everything you have done but £40million
for somone who doesn't want to be their we could reinvest
in 3 - 4 good young players for that what do you think ed

ramythered

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09 Jan 2011 16:26:58
Liverpool Rumours
Take out torres when we r a goal down with 15min to go?what the hell is he thinking?(thats what u said when rafa did the same thing last season)

Shebby

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When he took him off we were a man down and had no chance of scoring from open play.

but rafa took torres in a even game, which we needed to win!

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09 Jan 2011 16:26:41
"Am i the only one who thinks we can dig out a draw. Ive barely critisized torreS this year, i always thought he would come through but god hes awful. bring on ngog at once!
We need him to hold the ball up. Nando is the worst on the pitch but he shud be the best. Lets hope he prooves me wrong though.
Harry5"

Excuse me for asking, but does the "5" in your name refer to your age? I have never once seen Ngog look good enough to even shine Torres' boots, never mind replace him in the team. The team has been exceptionally poor on getting service to Torres under Hodgson and we had 10 for most of the game today, so no service again to Torres. It is"fans" like you who do not really understand football who make these silly comments. Go back to the days under Rafa when Torres was averaging nearly a goal a game and see how often he looked "poor" for much of a match, only to see him suddenly get a ball in a reasonable position, then skin the defender and/ or goalkeeper and score. .then everyone rave about him as the world's greatest striker. When we give him decent service he will be banging them in again.

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09 Jan 2011 16:26:31
Did I see Gerrard , Meireles , Maxi and Kuyt swapping positions in the first 30 mins ?

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09 Jan 2011 16:24:48
Alri ed,
jus wanted to say i thought we looked so much better in defence 2day with agger in there, and with aurelio also. the team selection was very positive in the sense that he didn't play kyrgiakos or konchesky, if stevie hadnt of been sent off i think we wud of at least forced a replay because united hardly threatened. dissappointed 2 be knocked out but theres a lot of positives to take, we have a busy 2-3 weeks coming up so we need to look at the positives and try cope without stevie, come on you reds.
what u think of it today ed?
welcome back KING KENNY

{Editor Note: Far more positive, passing was better and we tried to get forward and score. Defence was brilliant, Kelly and Agger in particular.}

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09 Jan 2011 16:24:18
Jus woken up n recieved confirmation dat luis suarez signing will b signing announced on mon, like i posted yesterday, but hazard will b delayed till after derby, more 2 come
Sharky"


This is not the real Sharky and its obvious to many of us regulars , the English used is no where as good as Sharky's consistent standard of posts.
For people pretending to be someone else, this is a criminal offence , many people (idiots mind) put bets on information posted on here, and posting as someone known to be a reliable source will be looked at in the same way as online fraud.
Roy
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Well spotted Roy, the real Sharkey actually spells it "Sharkey".

That's the best 90 mins i've watched all season (except the result). It seems to me if i were in any doubt that Kenny coming in has give the club, fans and players a massive boost.

Berbanob is a cheat but was still voted MOTM by Allardyce and co. And we all know that Martin Kelly was MOTM. It would'nt supprise me one bit if Kelly stays RB and Johnson plays RW against B.Pool in mid-week.

To all the ones laying into to Torres and doubting his commitment. Go have a look at all the articles to-day about him saying he will honour his contract. So hopefully you will change your mind and maybe get off his back.

It's the 1st time this season i've been proud of our team performance. I'm not getting carried away because for me the B.Pool match is huge for Kenny especially if we get beat. Then what will people/ fans say about him?

Blair Mayne YNWA

PS. I've only had one text from a mate/ Man'ure fan today. Says it all really!

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09 Jan 2011 16:23:51
Liverpool Rumours
For streams try freefootball.org loads of free streams for all of fa cup, premiership, c/ league matches.
Also can howard webb really be are best ref to take charge of top matches personally i think he has been poor since before world cup. lets hope the new regime can produce an improvement in quality of squad and play lets also wish king kenny and every one behind the scene the best long live the kop all true reds believe

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09 Jan 2011 16:23:11
With regard to the Gerrard sending off! If you get to see the replay, just watch Webb - he doesn't actually see the incident. He is looking the other way at the time of the tackle. He responds to Carrick's rolling around! No referee should send any player off were he has not actually seen the incident - unless his linesman or the fourth official has, and he can confirm the tackle was dangerous.
Next time Webb referees at Anfield he should be given a loud, long booing, to let him know he has cheated us over the last few seasons and not in just this game!

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09 Jan 2011 16:23:06
Liverpool Rumours
There would of been UPROAR if hodgson would of took torres off. what a joke. no one will say nothing about it on tv. knocks me sick!

{Editor Note: I'd imagine it is because Kenny Dalglish was being positive by bringing on attacking players like Babel, Shelvey and N'Gog not to mention the fact that we were positive from start to finish, and Torres wasn't just standing up there while the other 10 defended for 90mins.}

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09 Jan 2011 16:23:05
Liverpool Rumours
09 Jan 2011 15:39:29Different day, same s* t - sack dalglish

who is this clown? manc probably!

ryan c belfast ynwa

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09 Jan 2011 16:22:48
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09 Jan 2011 12:45:23
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Who is the right man for the manager's job in the summer?

Hiddink - Will he resign as manager of Turkey? Highly successful with PSV and a host of International teams.

Rijkaard - Took Holland to the Semi's of Euro 2000. Turned Barce into a football superpower again, but it could be argued he had the money and quality players in place already, bearing in mind Sparta Rotterdam were relegated under his command and his spell at Galatasaray was unsuccessful.

Villas Boas - Big risk for such a young manager, but has a very promising future.

Deschamps - Born winner, in his first managerial post with Monaco he won the French Cup, then took them to the European Cup Final, took Juventus back into Serie A and turned an average Marseille into champions in his first season.

These are the main contenders I seem to here about more often than anyone else. Does anyone has a preference other than the above mentioned and why?

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Your suggestions are very good and I would have any of them as manager with perhaps tge exception of Villas-Boas. But i would like to add the name of Quique Sanchez Flores. If torres stays then i think this man can reignite the fire in his belly and i think torres will flourish with his attack mindded football. Plus the small factor that he is spanish will help seen as we have Reina and Torres and Maxi who all speak spanish and Suso and Pacheco are our most promising youth talents and also spanish. Adding to this Sanchez Flores has won silverware, is tactically astute and is not afraid of moving abroad after his time with Benfica. Just a thought

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09 Jan 2011 16:22:47
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Torres was taken off because we have another match in midweek and it was always going to be hard to get something from the game

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09 Jan 2011 16:22:29
Liverpool Rumours
Why havnt we got rid of lucas? another poor display just not upto the standard!

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09 Jan 2011 16:21:53
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Thumbs up to king kenny, he really tried just on d first day, we din conceded to many goals lik we use to wit roy, d defence was perfect kelly did well, fabio aurelio did well, if gerrad was still their i'm sure we would hav been able 2 equalize, wat we just need=wingers nd a striker dats all.wat do u think ED.pls pot this my 10th time i'm writing

{Editor Note: I was pleased with everything today. Much improved.}

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09 Jan 2011 16:19:26
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09 Jan 2011 15:18:50
Take out torres when we r a goal down with 15min to go?what the hell is he thinking?(thats what u said when rafa did the same thing last season)

Shebby

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rafa did it for the wrong reason, he concentrated on the europa league instead of prem(getting champions league football)
kenny did it to concentrate on the prem, wise move!

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09 Jan 2011 16:17:45
What a disgraceful performance from England's so called top referee. Any person who watches the likes of "Lie to Me" will understand that Berbertov displayed the classic symptoms of a liar when asked about the penalty.
Amazingly, Webb didn't consult the linesman even though he did not raise his flag and was only 5 yards away. Perhaps the linesman should have raised his flag and pointed towards the United end to indicate a dive!
With regard to Gerard, yes, I have seen players in similar tackles sent-off, but I have also seen plenty of players NOT sent-off in that instance. Given the magnitude of the game and that fact he had already given United a "dodgy" penalty he could have been a bit more lenient with Gerrard.

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09 Jan 2011 16:16:47
Well disappointed about the result but overall pleased about the performence. my mate text me saying it wasnt a pen and he's a man u fan. two or three weeks ago i didn't know where the next win would come from but now i think maybe a good run in the europa league, possibly even to win it, ed am i being to optimistic.
also can anyone complain abot nando being taken off.

always a red

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09 Jan 2011 16:15:51
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Typical old trafford!
although we hardly threatened utd, i did admire some parts of the 2nd half, 10men collective resiliance and reina's 5 save combo

hope kenny can get 1 or2 players in who will:
a) know how to attack when in possesion
b) actually look to threaten.

you watch a game and tell me honestly, every player is clueless about what to do with the ball, because no matter what ball is on they just give it to stevie, he can't produce the spark everytime. and the lack of invention going forward draws torres out to the wing, and by the time 3 sideways and backward passes have given someone space to whip in a cross, theres nobody in the box. alot of hopeful punts up field today. training at melwood tomos should be intensive; learn how to take your first touch for all players.

i have faith in kenny to change our fortunes this year and possibly win europa. i think 6th is most realistic we can finish, so Ed, if we win europa do we have right to defend it the following season?

it was more encouraging to see kelly in team today, i thought he did very well. would be my regular RB pushing johnson onto right wing, either that or try to flog for about 12million. we need a back up striker and a LW (TURAN) to carry us to end of season. I would like to see mavinga tried at left back as konk is bobbins and aurellio just isn't my cup of tea.

the ethos of the whole squad is safe passes and no aggresive attacking.
cmon the redmen against blackpool wed, and ed do you think gerrards red can be recinded for derby game? it could have been a yellow that today.

cheers

mart84

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09 Jan 2011 16:15:17
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Take out torres when we r a goal down with 15min to go?what the hell is he thinking?(thats what u said when rafa did the same thing last season)

Apsolute Nonesense. When Ngog came on he held it up better than Torres and put a shift in. I would start Torres over Ngog all day but the change was the right one. Rest him for wednesday and start fresh in the PL.

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09 Jan 2011 16:14:31
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Martin kelly was formidable keeping out both evra and giggs!
I think we can happily bid johnson a good bye. And welcome santon.
Agger looked good. .
Reina was formidable too. These three players continued to play with passion even after gerrard's dismissal.

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09 Jan 2011 16:12:56
Thats the best i've seen us play for ages! kenny made such a difference in this first game, and under the obvious circumstances we did bloody well! mr kelly was a star, don't you agree?
torres is my concern, the lad needs more service, and he is just so lacking in confidence, and we all know what he is capable of, get behind him and give him a lift, and we will soon be singing his name again, plus, soon he will have a new partner!? ?. well done to kenny for meeting torres off the pitch and showing he has faith in him, and so should we!

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09 Jan 2011 16:12:28
Liverpool Rumours
Steve clarke coming in as coach maybe number two
jackie boy

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09 Jan 2011 16:11:06
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Anyone think we should try and resign John arne Riise? Hes only 30, would be a cheap buy too, temp replacement i suppose

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09 Jan 2011 16:10:32
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Proud 2day of the proformance kelly motm bar far. maybe with gerrard being missing for 3 games it could see us move for a midfielder i hope banega or maybe mvilla. need a winger this window maybe 2 and a striker to help torres as he is feeding off scraps.

DARCY YNWA

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09 Jan 2011 16:10:24
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Take out torres when we r a goal down with 15min to go?what the hell is he thinking?(thats what u said when rafa did the same thing last season)

Shebby

Think anyone watching the game today will agree that torres could still be on the pitch now with an open goal and would still look uninterested (really don't get what is going on with him at the moment!?) but fair play to Kenny taking him off it shows he aint as untouchable as he thinks he is. Owen looked more interested and showed more effort when he came on for the scum than Torres showed all game. Love the boy to bits but he really aint showing nowhere near the effort he did in his first season. anyone remember the reading game when he got kicked all over the place in the league cup but went on to score a hatrick? Where is that Torres now? cause all i see is a bloke who gets kicked in the first 5 minutes then hangs his head all game standing on his heels complaining at every decision and don't wanna chase anything

Sandwich

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09 Jan 2011 16:10:08
We were the better team today and played more attacking. Don't forgett Dalglish has hardley had 5mins with the team. Torres looked happier although it seems he's carrying a slight ankle injury ( hence why he was brought off). I think more positives than negatives today. Skertle, Agger, Gerrard, Meiress ( spelling ), Babble, Kelly and Lucus all played well

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09 Jan 2011 16:09:57
Come on guys! What's with all the Torres done F##k all crap. Once Gerrard was sent off, he was never going to get much service until alot later in the game. I thought we played ok with more effort & commitment than I've seen all season. That's not to say there was much quality! I thought Kuyt might have swapped places with Babel when he was a spent force late in the second half & Kelly was very good as was Agger. It's just a pity that we lose Gerrard for 3 matches, but he's only got himself to blame. I also think Meireles saved Rafael by pulling out of the tackle. You can't hit the ball with both feet unless your feet are of the ground & I've seen plenty of players winning the ball with a 2 footed tackle & get sent off.

The Irish Rover

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09 Jan 2011 16:09:50
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Well shebby. Only he could do something what our previous manager couldnt. . And torres was appalling. If the arrival of king (who he once said was his hero) can't command a better effort from him, then he surely doesn deserve to play the 90minutes. It was a wise decision. And all three substitutions were refreshing. Loads of positives. It reminded me of the arsenal game on opening day which in my opinion was our best performance this season.
I am taking alot of positives from this game.
What do you think ed?

Breathtaking PHOENIX

Red for life!

{Editor Note: I think Torres had lack of service from the wide areas today which wasn't in any way helped by Gerrard's sending off. He worked very hard today I thought, and that's all he could do if he was feeding off scraps.}

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09 Jan 2011 16:09:26
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I told ye last week alex the c. t had decided it was a peno to beat us , howard webb at old trafford need i say anymore , at least we didn't lie down and if gerrard hadnt gone i think we might have got a result , anyway things look better today than last week , ps, howard webb have a look at yourself and your so called ref skills which are quite shambolic at best , should not be allowed to ref at old trafford again ,

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09 Jan 2011 16:08:36
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Just tell me how Howard Webb is one second playing on! Then next second sending someone off! shocking!

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09 Jan 2011 16:08:16
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Take out torres when we r a goal down with 15min to go?what the hell is he thinking?(thats what u said when rafa did the same thing last season)

Shebby

yeah but that was when torres wanted the ball last season he didn't look interested today waiting for the ball i thought the subs were spot on

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09 Jan 2011 16:07:55
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Should not be too hard on ourselves today, more positives then negatives to take out of this match. Once again Howard Webb is the centre of attention, what on earth is Agger trying to do? His performance was shambolic IMO. Kelly was amazing as usual, definitely put him first in the pecking order at right back. Babel and Shelvey made quite a good improvement when coming on. Torres was looking . . abit sharper then usual! Obviously the loss of Gerrard took away a lot of confidence from the team. But overall, im happy with the guys today, they actually looked like a side with a bit of passion. Now boys, let us climb that table and back into the top 4

looked like a side with passion! it was manure away if we aint got passion for this we never will?? we could have had frank spencer in charge today and would have still been up for it! and remember kk is just a man do we not remember his signings?? speedie! hutchinson! etc etc don't think kk will be spending this window? that will be down to dc and if were led to believe he didn't do anything that good at arsenal and spurs!

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09 Jan 2011 16:07:21
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Take out torres when we r a goal down with 15min to go?what the hell is he thinking?(thats what u said when rafa did the same thing last season)

Shebby

erm. . torres wasnt doing anything. . he didn't even work up a sweat! I think Kenny did the right thing in take'n him off as he wasnt interested/ fit/ right in the head (score out the on u think fits!)

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09 Jan 2011 16:06:07
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09 Jan 2011 15:18:50
Take out torres when we r a goal down with 15min to go?what the hell is he thinking?(thats what u said when rafa did the same thing last season)

Shebby

And last season Torres showed same weak form?

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09 Jan 2011 16:04:26
A lot of posotives to take from the game today. .Agger and especially skrtel need lessons in when to stand off and when to get tight. But on the hole with a bit of work liked the shape of the team today. all the players looked like they were trying to impress today and i reckon team spirit will improve thanks to king kenny. .

Need to work on in and out goings now.

ED do you believe kenny is the right man 4 the job full time??

I have no doubt we will attack more and work harder as a team but lets not 4get some of these players still lack ability. .Will the time away from top lvl management be telling 4 kenny in the long term??

{Editor Note: I don't know, he's only been here one game though.}

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09 Jan 2011 16:04:15
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Considering we was down to 10 men we didn't do to badly considering the form we was in i was expecting to lose 3 or 4-0 lol i think he set out the right defence, definitly not a penalty berba was a fairy lol, kenny set the team up more positively than roy did so i think next few games we will see better football from the team unfortunetly no gerrard but like they said in the modern day football u can't take ur feet off the ground my opinion that just is silly and turns the game into a game for pansy's and girls. .but those r the stupid rules, , , to me it was a 50/ 50 challenge for the ball and gerrard came off better than carrick unfortunelty carrick cried like a baby to get the decision. .welcome back kenny and goodluck YNWA

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09 Jan 2011 16:03:41
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09 Jan 2011 14:10:12
Manchester United are interested in youngster Tom Daley as the club are always on the lookout for divers whoever posted this is spot on ha ha funny la

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09 Jan 2011 16:03:37
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Take out torres when we r a goal down with 15min to go?what the hell is he thinking?(thats what u said when rafa did the same thing last season)

Shebby

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Shebby mate, we are entitled to our opinions but i believe that is the best thing Kenny could do. It shows Torres that he is the boss and is not afraid to take him off when he is not performing. . No one is bigger than the club. .

Macca

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09 Jan 2011 16:02:02
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Take out torres when we r a goal down with 15min to go?what the hell is he thinking?(thats what u said when rafa did the same thing last season)

Shebby

Be more respectful shebby . you're not the manager . you're too blind to notice that torres was missing his chances and also was taken off with the next game in mind he was tired. these cheap fans are one reason why i dreaded the kings return. All hail the king it was a good performance

True Red

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09 Jan 2011 16:01:39
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Shebby you are a clown !

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09 Jan 2011 16:01:27
Anyone seen King's prematch interview?

"What did you tell the players?"

King: "I'll keep that between the players. You arent workin' for Fergie, are ya?"

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09 Jan 2011 16:00:19
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Howard Webb voted the manure player of the season by their fans

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09 Jan 2011 16:00:16
Defence looked pretty solid, the main thing for me was Dalglish tried to make positive substitutions even with us down to ten men.

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09 Jan 2011 16:00:05
Funniest thing I saw on Twitter today. .Evans hits post and Webb just fails to knock in the rebound!

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09 Jan 2011 16:00:02
Liverpool Rumours
If Howard Webb is England's best then god help us all. If I was a referee I'd be insulted.

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09 Jan 2011 15:59:29
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HOW TO WATCH LIVERPOOL ON THE INTERNET
(I know it's late, but store it for future use)

1. Install the browser Google Chrome.

2. Look in the top right (your right) corner and you will see a spanner.

3. Click on the spanner and select 'tools'.

4. Click on extensions

5. At the bottom right (as you look at it) you will see 'Get More Extensions >>'. Select this.

6. In the search box type 'Chrome Live Football' and search.

7. Click on Chrome Live Football and then click on install.

8. A small football will then appear in the top right (as you look at it). Click on that and it will list all the live games available all over europe.

You may occasionally need to install other programmes, but you will always get every Liverpool match (or any other). Sometimes you will only be able to find it with foreign commentary and sometimes you will get it in English. You will alos get most La Liga matches, Greek matches, Italian matches and French matches.

Cur and paste the above into a document and save it for future reference.

RED LENIN

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09 Jan 2011 15:58:50
It was great that Kelly & Shelvey featured today. I hope Kenny plans on bringing some of the young guys through. Would love to see Suso be given a go.

-IamTheCosmos

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09 Jan 2011 15:58:12
"Even tho the result wasnt in out favour and we had a cheating bulagrian against us i think most of our players played well and our defence was great we just need width and a partner for torres"


I don't blame the Bulgarian , most players would have done the same . however the ref a joke , he had a duty to consult his linesman - which was much closer and did not flag for a foul - but web completely decided on the penalty .
Gerrard tackle would have been given as red 7/ 8 times out of 10, but I am willing to bet if the opponents were a team other than united Stevie would have been yellow carded.
Roy

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09 Jan 2011 15:57:53
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If I were Kenny, I'd tell the team to get it into the United box as much as possible and whoever may get the ball to go down at the slightest touch. If they get to cheat then surely we're just levelling up the scores to what they should be.

liverpool fc are no cheaters, whatever the circumstances, partly why i support the club. morals man, morals!

ryan c belfast ynwa

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09 Jan 2011 15:57:32
Allardyce says united will be scary when they hit top form
I think they have, why else would they play like that every week
It will be funny when slur retires
They will be nothing
Very good game even though we lost kenny should be proud of how we responded to the blackburn defeat

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09 Jan 2011 15:57:27
Well played Martin Kelly- great performance. Surlely deserves a regular start.

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09 Jan 2011 15:57:21
Need a top class striker and winger for derby game

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09 Jan 2011 15:57:15
If we had a winger that has the pace and the ability, I think we could have gotten a replay. Torres didn't get any service because Gerrard got red carded (which was fair).

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09 Jan 2011 15:57:15
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Unlucky liverpool did not deserve 2 lose webb always favours man u when he is referee flipping match fixer.

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09 Jan 2011 15:56:49
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What about Gary mac as kennys number 2?

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09 Jan 2011 15:56:23
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Take out torres when we r a goal down with 15min to go?what the hell is he thinking?(thats what u said when rafa did the same thing last season)

Shebby
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wise up mate diference we were down to ten men, another big game on wed, and it we let torres knw if he isn't playin well he will come off and who were we playing when rafa did that and torres was playin well.fairplay to the lads but you could see the change already in the team doulbe sub on the 60 instead of roy makin changes on the 80min kelly was awesome hope he keeps his place the fans who were there WELL DONE LADS YNWA

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09 Jan 2011 15:54:49
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Howard webb is a great manchester united fan from childhood.

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09 Jan 2011 15:54:17
Liverpool Rumours
In my view we only need:
Winger - Turan 15m
Versatile attacking mid - Honda 12m
Striker - Suarez/ Hulk 16m

E.H LFC

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09 Jan 2011 15:53:42
Amazing subs kenny! babel could have caused trouble if united dint lock down !
NEVER A PENALTY? but that's how it goes we can take this into the next games kenny is a legend narrowly beaten by a united rat c* t.
YWNA!

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09 Jan 2011 15:53:31
{Editor Note: And what did the players around him do to help him get into the game? Nothing again.}

Sorry Ed - So no one helped Torres today, no-one did any running or fighting for the ball, what do you actually mean by your comment? World Class players make things happen, by skill and effort and commitment.

John B

{Editor Note: Torres got no service from either winger today, and when Gerrard went off he was isolated. He can't just get the ball and do everything himself.}

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09 Jan 2011 15:53:28
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The person posting about taking Torres off. He'd been up front on his own all match and Kenny wants to keep him fresh for Wednesday's game at Blackpool which given we were down to 10 is the more important game for our team.

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09 Jan 2011 15:52:36
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We may not of won, but I am very proud of the performance we gave today, we shoul all be.

You'll Never Walk Alone

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09 Jan 2011 15:52:27
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Which games will steve g miss

{Editor Note: The next three Prem games, which include Blackpool and Everton.}

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09 Jan 2011 15:52:19
09 Jan 2011 15:35:42
Now for the next few games, team should be:

Reina

Kelly Srktel Agger Aurelio

Johnson Lucas Shelvey Maxi

Kuyt Torres
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Why jhnson and not meireles johnson has done notjing this season to be worthy of playing, keepmthe team and add for the loss of gerrard

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09 Jan 2011 15:51:27
Liverpool Rumours
Ed Torres of was a good decision. Ngog would have watched the game plus Torres was not getting a look in. So letting Ngog get a try was a good choice not as god as our #9 but sometimes effective

{Editor Note: He had an ice pack on his ankle when he came off. But he got little to no service today.}

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09 Jan 2011 15:51:17
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It was a great match today and who has been saying Babel is a waste? i think he is a great asset. even though we have lost, i think i am high spirited today. Nando was just a shadow of himself today and what else could have been done than to replace him?

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09 Jan 2011 15:51:11
I think if rafa or roy who sub torres tonite, all of u will call for their head.fact.

Shebby

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09 Jan 2011 15:51:00
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09 Jan 2011 15:18:50
Take out torres when we r a goal down with 15min to go?what the hell is he thinking?(thats what u said when rafa did the same thing last season)

Shebby

omg what a proper gobs* te shebby was you watchin torres for 75 mins when we was down to ten men he never looked that arsed too me i seen him 3times with hands on hips we gave a good performance would we have done any better with 11 men yes but a fight from 10 men an if you look at the sending off when gerrard went in for that tackle howard the manc webb had his back turned an never saw it he only turned around as gerrard was on the floor (please post on rumours page)

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09 Jan 2011 15:50:57
Defense was solid, Midfield solid, but you can see how much we need that winger, I say Get a winger and a striker in Jan. its a must. Put Johnson on the right wing, I don't get it Bale is great going forward so spurs make that move from left back to left wing. Why don't we do the same with Johnson, hopefully kk will do so, as Kelly was solid. IF we can go get a Mata, turan type and them a top class striker to pair with torres we will be back in champ league contention.

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09 Jan 2011 15:50:53
Liverpool Rumours
Well, we can take away a few positives from the game today:

. Kelly looked brilliant, much better than their "wonderkid" Rafael.

. Babel actually looked good.

. The team looked more united, with a fighting, never-say-die spirit.

. I saw my team constantly attack a quality team for the first time in over a decade.


The game also showed us the error of our ways. If Kenny had been appointed in the summer we would have gotten to 4th spot at a canter based on today's performance.
Hopefully, we can make some quality signings in the next 20 days. We would have won if Berbat* t hadn't dived and we had some real wingers. I'd like Turan, Llorente and Honda, please.

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09 Jan 2011 15:50:40
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Take out torres when we r a goal down with 15min to go?what the hell is he thinking?(thats what u said when rafa did the same thing last season)

Shebby


yeah but last season torres was scoring for fun this season hes struggling and torres would complain at been taken off under rafa but he knows he's not at is best.

grantscratch

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09 Jan 2011 15:50:28
Absolute rubbish

man utd played well. never really tried. control the ball from the back.

Man u controlled the centre of mid well. Berv walked around the pitch doing very little.

Just shows the difference between the teams.

Kenny should come on TV and say "we will knock man u off their perch"

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09 Jan 2011 15:50:19
If gerrard didn't get sent off torres would have had some support :( WELL DONE LADS POSITIVE FOOTBALLL FOR ONCE

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09 Jan 2011 15:50:05
Agger changes the whole dimension of our defence. so much better at the back today.

aurelio looked shakey and made some dodgey passes but is a massive improvement on the alien.

shelvey and babel need lessons in how to control a ball.

people slating torres but when he was actually given the ball his touch looked better and he seemed to have some skill back. remember he's had f* * all service all season and today with 10 men did you think that would change?

lucas and kuyt put in a shift and a half.

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09 Jan 2011 15:50:04
A world class forward shouldnt need his team mates to supply him perfectly everytime. . he wasnt making any runs and walked back when he lost the ball. He is awesome on his day but he didn't try today.

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09 Jan 2011 15:48:04
Ive been reading people saying torres showed no fight? he chased the ball down everytime won most in the air, and bringing players into it! So how can you question him? Very pleased with todays performance. Berbatov is a disgrace!

El Nino 9

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09 Jan 2011 15:47:49
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Ed, im sure you have your work cut out for you after any game, never mind todays. respect dude!

ryan c belfast ynwa

{Editor Note: I certainly do mate. I'm currently reviewing 24 posts, with another 40 or so to follow!}

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09 Jan 2011 15:46:50
ITV MAN OF THE MATCH IS A DIVING CHEAT!
THIS IS THE CANCER OF TODAYS GAME

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09 Jan 2011 15:46:35
Nice to see the team playing football properly again and passing the ball out from the back - even when down to 10 men .

The full backs already appear prepared to carry the ball forward .

Would like to see a few signings made to compliment the attack .

1977

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09 Jan 2011 15:45:17
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Torres substitution was with blackpool game in mind, he knew that himself, which is why he wasn't too disappointed

ryan c belfast ynwa

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09 Jan 2011 15:44:23
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Liverpool Rumours
"Jus woken up n recieved confirmation dat luis suarez signing will b signing announced on mon, like i posted yesterday, but hazard will b delayed till after derby, more 2 come
Sharky"


This is not the real Sharky and its obvious to many of us regulars , the English used is no where as good as Sharky's consistent standard of posts.
For people pretending to be someone else, this is a criminal offence , many people (idiots mind) put bets on information posted on here, and posting as someone known to be a reliable source will be looked at in the same way as online fraud.
Roy

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09 Jan 2011 15:44:11
Terrilbe call on the penalty, most effort Ive seen all year. Torres needed to come off, I don't think he is being lazy, he just looks off the pace, out of shape still. I think all of last years injuries are still playing a part in that, he doesn't look as fast as I remember either, he use to be able to beat any defender for pace. Stevie G got a little unlucky, but again if we played that hard in the prem we will win 85% of games.

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09 Jan 2011 15:44:08
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What A Great Show and Fightback by King's Lads today even without Stevie G (Thanks to that C* T Howard Webb). Even after this loss i feel Optimistic with the way we played today. I am Sure King Kenny would get us out of this storm. By the way Great Diving skills by Berbatov to get a penalty. . ! C'mon Lads Get in there . . Lets Start this with Blakpool! Kudos to Kelly. . Great defending !
YNWA KING KENNY

Men of the Match for me - Martin Kelly (Lad's got great future) and Pepe Reina (what else should i say about our own spanish Scouser. .Brilliant)


What do u think about the performance today ed ?

{Editor Note: Much improved.}

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09 Jan 2011 15:44:01
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Itv witch hunt pundits fatsam uglyfucgate why not wheel in baldy gray to?

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09 Jan 2011 15:43:30
Amazing - Kennys' first game back, with not a lot of luck - Torres was not very good ( and I'm being kind ), and to be honest he could have come off earlier, although I;m not a fan of taking off strikers at any time.

And Lo and Behold a bleeding RAFA lover comes on and criticises Dalglish - thanks Shebby you've got me and most of the others on here laughing at you.

In RAFA we trust - NOT.

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09 Jan 2011 15:43:24
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Martin Kelly had a wonderful game, both offensively and most importantly defensively. He should be in the starting XI every time ahead of johnson. Wouldn't you agree with me editor.

{Editor Note: 100% agree.}

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09 Jan 2011 15:43:06
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Tp shebby
took off torres to sabve him he had spent a long time upfront on his own looked off the pace and tired - when you are tired late in a game more likely to pull a hamstring or something and lose him for 6-8 weeks.better to take him off as we were up against it anyway , can't beat 12 men when you have only 10

good decision in my opinion

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09 Jan 2011 15:42:26
I thought Shelvey and Babel had good games when they came on. In fact I thought it was a good decision by Kenny at that time in the game.

Already more hopeful for the rest of the season.

Come on Kenny were right behind you

YNWA

FT

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09 Jan 2011 15:41:56
Next match at Blackpool Line uo should be:

Reina
Kelly Agger Skrtel Aurelio

Johnson Meireles/ Shelvey Gerrard Babel

Kuyt Torres

Sounds pretty solid, good game today. HEADS UP, it was a solid game and we played extremely well being one man down. First game for Kenny and looking forward to Blackpool game!

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09 Jan 2011 15:41:26
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I'm really proud of kenny and the lads today they showed alot of heart it's a shame we didn't get anything out of the game but you couldn't fault the effort, if we play like this every game we will be alright

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09 Jan 2011 15:41:21
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A lot of positives to take from the game today. football was better, there seemed to be a lot more determination from the team. may have lost the game, but didn't lose the fight.
team performance:
reina 8 (best in the world)
kelly 9 (wonderful performance)
skrtel 7 (massive improvement)
agger 8 (brilliant)
aurelio 8 (unlucky with free kick)
kuyt 6 (didnt impress)
*gerrard 5 (what was he thinking?)
meireles 5 (poor) {shelvey 6} (fighter)
lucas 6 (poor)
maxi 7 (can be better) {babel 6} (up for it)
torres 6 (wasnt too involved) {ngog 4} (hardly had a touch)

ryan c belfast ynwa

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09 Jan 2011 15:41:05
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Kelly was brilliant, today among all. Torres seem to be much better but was isolated after Gerrard's dismissal. We need quality winger and a good forward. Hope there is Turan, Honda and a striker. .
Ed, ur thoughts on todays performance, especially Kelly's one. He makes me feel, why we signed Johnson when we had him. . Hope things get right. . YNWA

{Editor Note: Kelly was excellent. And going forward he seems capable, he got in behind Evra and put a good ball into the box.}

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09 Jan 2011 15:40:55
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Take out torres when we r a goal down with 15min to go?what the hell is he thinking?(thats what u said when rafa did the same thing last season)

because torres was sh*t we needed fresh legs if anything he shud of gone off sooner! !

{Editor Note: Not helped with the lack of service he got.}

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09 Jan 2011 15:40:47
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Take out torres when we r a goal down with 15min to go?what the hell is he thinking?(thats what u said when rafa did the same thing last season)

he is thinking blackpool wed night as we are only 4pts from reg and that is a bigger game for us now

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09 Jan 2011 15:40:11
09 Jan 2011 15:34:10
Kelly, Agger, Aurelio, Shelvey, Kuyt played well.
Lost to a dodgy penno there.
Gerrard's tackle was a red though. Nowadays unfortunately.
But we played OK. Fought for it and decent spirit.
KB

agree with most of that kb but thought kuyt was awful and can't even manage the simple skill of ball control

allred

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09 Jan 2011 15:39:55
Martin Kelly totally immense today , a throw back to the great young players of yesteryear .

For a centre back he really knows how to play the game and has the quality to attack from the back .

Martin Kelly is my man of the match - incredible display .

LFC a different team today , they must be proud of themselves and looking forward to the next match .

1977

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09 Jan 2011 15:39:42
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Ryan Giggs 'the penalty helped us the sending off helped us even more' subtext 'thanks Howard'. Despite the game starting as 11 v 12 and ending 10 v 12 and everything conspiring against the lads overall the performance gave me a lot of hope for the rest of the season. Martin Kelly was awesome. Give Kenny a little time and I'm sure that the reds will be firing on all cylinders.

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09 Jan 2011 15:39:29
Different day, same s* t - sack dalglish

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09 Jan 2011 15:39:09
A red card to the home side and a cheated-penalty to the home side at Old Trafford?
Why, that hardly ever happens.

And if there's truth to the Torres to Juventus rumour. 30+mill, I'd cash in straight away. He's even lazier than Berbatov was two years ago.

{Editor Note: Had an ice-pack on his ankle when he went off did he not? And I gather that he said today he was seeing out his contract at Liverpool.}

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09 Jan 2011 15:38:09
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Berbatov"people who know me know i don't go down easy" . "there was enough contact to make me loose my balance" - what a load of sh*te
cheated once again at old toilet
good performance by us skrtel and agger were brilliant and a lot more effort from the whole team
we can hold our heads up unlike after wolves and blackpool
things looking up already, more posotive good substitutions even taking torres off he wasnt having the best of games but playing isolated up front late in a game he could have pulled a hamstring or something as he tired and ngog has done ok this season
the king is back

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09 Jan 2011 15:37:38
No need for a new right back kelly was outstanding but new blood is essential, stop dragging our feet and bring the likes of honda and turan etc

allred

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09 Jan 2011 15:37:23
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09 Jan 2011 15:18:50
Take out torres when we r a goal down with 15min to go?what the hell is he thinking?(thats what u said when rafa did the same thing last season)
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Take a better look u muppet Torres had an ice pack put on his ankle straight away.

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09 Jan 2011 15:37:23
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Should not be too hard on ourselves today, more positives then negatives to take out of this match. Once again Howard Webb is the centre of attention, what on earth is Agger trying to do? His performance was shambolic IMO. Kelly was amazing as usual, definitely put him first in the pecking order at right back. Babel and Shelvey made quite a good improvement when coming on. Torres was looking . . abit sharper then usual! Obviously the loss of Gerrard took away a lot of confidence from the team. But overall, im happy with the guys today, they actually looked like a side with a bit of passion. Now boys, let us climb that table and back into the top 4!

YNWA.

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09 Jan 2011 15:37:06
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Im not too disappointed with the result! Yes i know we wanted to advance and beat manure but we were miles the better team even with 10 men, the performance we put in was excellent and roll on the rest of the season! The players were up for it and that's what we need, with a few additions in january and continue playing like today we will be back in the top 6 (where we need to be) in no time !

What do you think Ed ?

{Editor Note: Pleased with the performance and we were unlucky with that penalty.}

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09 Jan 2011 15:37:05
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Ok so we just got beat by the scum. But looking at the bigger picture there was so much more energy, fight and togetherness in the team 2day i actually feel proud after it and i suppose that's all most people have wanted to see through the season. And for the 1st time in years we have a manager who makes subs at a time when they can actually have an impact on the game (that has peed me off for so many years now). Kenny will get em goin again!

YNWA!

Flipper

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09 Jan 2011 15:36:30
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Take out torres when we r a goal down with 15min to go?what the hell is he thinking?(thats what u said when rafa did the same thing last season)

Shebby


everybody gonna start on kenny now?
we gave a great account of ourselves 2nd half howard webb wants shootin for givin the penalty, s* t we aint got stevie for the derby but shelvey looked good wen he came on


motm martin kelly excellent display, this young lad is turning into a great player

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09 Jan 2011 15:36:28
Proud of the fight we showed today. .starting to feel like Liverpool again!

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09 Jan 2011 15:36:15
Football interviewers are brilliant - Mr Berbatov was it a penalty? Brilliant, I wonder what the answer would have been if he'd asked Agger.

And the other one is Mr Giggs - what were the important parts of the game - eerrrm let me think about that one - aha - the early goal and the sending off.

These people get paid to ask theses questions

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09 Jan 2011 15:35:42
Now for the next few games, team should be:

Reina

Kelly Srktel Agger Aurelio

Johnson Lucas Shelvey Maxi

Kuyt Torres

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09 Jan 2011 15:35:38
We only lost due to uniteds12th man
Howard webb is a joke and shouldnt still be allowed to ref after the disasterous world cup final
Wonder how much the mancs payed him to give that good showing
Apart from that played well and only lost due to mr webb
Good return and a nastynstart to kennys second spell in charge
Btw im so glad that johnnos wife is in labour kelly was class and took no sh!t off anyone
He will be quality

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09 Jan 2011 15:35:27
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Plenty of positives from todays performance. Till Gerrard was there, we were very strong and it feels very harsh to concede the penalty, which never was the deserved one. down on one man is hard against any team and against united it had to be. But I still think it was a much better performance. Your thoughts on the match, ed? Esp. Penalty and Gerrard's incident. I failed to watch it clearly due to lack of pic quality. . Thanks. .

{Editor Note: Gutted with the defeat obviously. But pleased with the more positive football and the fact that had the referee not been a clown and given them a dodgy penalty we could have got them back to Anfield.}

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09 Jan 2011 15:34:59
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I am very proud of the way we actually played football today not the long game football, if we never had berbatov diving and gerrard sending off it would of been a different game, nice to see KK giving the youngsters a chance kelly was very good babel looked good torres? Ed?

LFC FAN (From Cardiff).

{Editor Note: I would agree. And Torres got no service today again. Hopefully if we play the same formation for the remainer of the season Gerrard will get further forward and support him. But our need for a quality winger was evident today.}

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09 Jan 2011 15:34:56
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Take out torres when we r a goal down with 15min to go?what the hell is he thinking?(thats what u said when rafa did the same thing last season)

Shebby

what did he do all match? f* k all again

{Editor Note: And what did the players around him do to help him get into the game? Nothing again.}

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09 Jan 2011 15:34:22
Liverpool Rumours
I struggle to see how it was a penalty. ah it was a better performance than most this year

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09 Jan 2011 15:34:12
Liverpool Rumours
Torres was taken off by Rafa when LFC were drawing a league match against Brum whilst chasing a champions league place. Bit different to an FA cup match against SCUM at old toilet when 1-0 down with 10 men. Grow up and let Rafa go.

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09 Jan 2011 15:34:10
Kelly, Agger, Aurelio, Shelvey, Kuyt played well.
Lost to a dodgy penno there.
Gerrard's tackle was a red though. Nowadays unfortunately.
But we played OK. Fought for it and decent spirit.
KB

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09 Jan 2011 15:33:41
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Even tho the result wasnt in out favour and we had a cheating bulagrian against us i think most of our players played well and our defence was great we just need width and a partner for torres

turan honda and suarez

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09 Jan 2011 15:32:44
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09 Jan 2011 15:18:50
Take out torres when we r a goal down with 15min to go?what the hell is he thinking?(thats what u said when rafa did the same thing last season)

Shebby

Got to disagree with you Shebby. . Torres wasn't up for it today and a fresh pair of legs at that time is what was needed. For me Kenny put fresh players on at the right time.

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09 Jan 2011 15:32:42
Unlucky lads, gud fighting performance. Just a shame that f* king cheating rat headed pr* k berbatw*t had to go diving in the box and webb in his united shirt giving them the poor decision. Then itv hav the cheek to giv him man of the match.
We fort hard and deserved a rematch at anfield, man u were poor for most of the match and i am fuming becuz i it wasnt 4 that pen we wud hav got a decent result.

Kelly was fantastic btw.

E.H LFC

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09 Jan 2011 15:32:37
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I have a theory and why Torres played so bad. It hit me after 65min that he has a man crush with Rio ferdinand. That is why he always let him take the ball away and especially hit him from behind. Torres couldn't get into the game because he was looking at Rio. Please Mr Torres stop looking at guys and start playing football!

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09 Jan 2011 15:32:24
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Despite loss im very happy. defence seemed very good and solid, all of them. disappointed with kuyt think his passing was very poor and torres didn't get good service from kuyt. despite loss i think every1 should be proud of the way kk got us playing. wot u think ed?

pimpdaddy84

{Editor Note: It looked like a completly difference defence today mate. Hopefully we stick with it for the season. Kuyt isn't a right-winger and we need a good winger in the window. Torres needs more support.}

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09 Jan 2011 15:31:10
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Howard Web deserved motm, He won them the game! . At least we seen a big improvement on how we played under Hodgson.

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09 Jan 2011 15:31:08
Unlucky today. never a pen and if we had 11 men we'd have won. much better football all round. more attacking, better defence, more fire in our bellies.

man u were poor

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09 Jan 2011 15:31:07
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Ive never rated merieles and today proves hes not commited to the cause. Kenny has got his work cut out and we need new signings in several positions. . . red11

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09 Jan 2011 15:30:27
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Take out torres when we r a goal down with 15min to go?what the hell is he thinking?(thats what u said when rafa did the same thing last season)

Shebby


Yeh but torres was crap again today m8, and im a lifelong liverpool fan
YNWA!

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09 Jan 2011 15:29:49
Well despite Scum U winning courtesy of Howard "im a Manu fan" Webb, i was impressed on our overall performance. We did not look like we were all over the place like the last few games. What we need now though is what many have been saying, a few quality additions to the squad. The likes of Arda Turan, Mata and Honda would be ideal.

The Roachmiester

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09 Jan 2011 15:29:33
Fat sam and southgate award the man of the match to the bloke who cheated to get a penalty, no wonder them plonkers don't have jobs

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09 Jan 2011 15:29:16
Just heart-breaking to lose a game like that. .really well played and with alot of heart. .lets keep it going and with a couple of good strong signings we will climb up the league

Come on the REDS.

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09 Jan 2011 15:28:52
Bright Side:

*King Kenny

*Martin Kelly

*Fighting Spirit

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09 Jan 2011 15:27:49
Why did we give up at 75min itself?

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09 Jan 2011 15:26:49
The way i see it is we was not outplayed, just two very BIG mistakes on the ref part!

But what do you expect at OT! Always the 12th man.

Shown big improvement going into league games.

Still lacking a bit of quality, especially in defence, .
Babel looked good when he came on. Torres still looking a bit low?

Still onwards and upwards. 4th spot finish i'll put money on that.

Lee73

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09 Jan 2011 15:26:20
Liverpool Rumours
Disapointing
but if not for a dodgy pen and a dodgy sending off we would of done them.

team played better anyhow
2 or 3 signings if possible and we can move up the table.

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09 Jan 2011 15:24:13
Demento must be ecstatic - he was worried the Premier League couldn't find a suitable replacement for Mike Riley - his worries are over -they have in the name of Howard Webb.

You have to question is both decisions, not as to whether they were right - but - would he have given them if they had occurred the other end.

Two footed tackle by Rafael Curly Hair on Meireles just a before Steveie's tackle from the side, if he'd given it and a subsequent deserved yellow - Stevie's tackle would not have happened. And if Torres had gone down that easy would Webb have given a penalty to us - NO WAY, I've answered my own question.

Tough first game Kenny D - but they are showing a bit of fight and running.

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09 Jan 2011 15:22:21
I think lucas has been shocking today, his passing is poor, tackling is week and brings nothing special to the team whatsoever. Rather have mereiles and shelvey playing in the middle with gerrard playing of torres.
With some help shelvey could be our new alonso.

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09 Jan 2011 15:21:28
I'd take torres of , he just doesn't look interested
no fight

thebritvickid

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09 Jan 2011 15:20:46
Liverpool Rumours
Kelly is 10 times better defender than Johnson !

{Editor Note: Without a doubt mate. Hopefully Kenny sticks with him.}

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09 Jan 2011 15:20:18
Liverpool Rumours
Ed do u agree wit me dat 2days defeding was d best?

{Editor Note: Without a doubt. Skrtel even looked solid. Agger makes the difference and glad to see Konchesky out. Kelly was outstanding and should keep his place in there over Johnson. Pleased today.}

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09 Jan 2011 15:16:08
First training session should be how to control the bloody ball

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09 Jan 2011 15:08:58
Guys i think this one might be beyond(please prove me wrong) us but i am impressed with the fight the lads are showing for kenny and LFC. Lets go and climb that league

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09 Jan 2011 15:08:26
09 Jan 2011 14:46:05
Is it just me or is miereles afraid to commit to a tackle

LAVERS

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I'd pull out too if Raphael was jumping in with two feet. Good player and will get even better in this 4-5-1 shape.

-IamTheCosmos

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09 Jan 2011 15:06:40
For god sakes roy still hasnt made a sub, lol. Superb subs btw .
Harry5:)

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09 Jan 2011 15:04:01
Who is on bench to come on?

Thebritvickid

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09 Jan 2011 15:00:21
I no we are losing, but all playing well except torres today so far, we are at least attacking even with 10 men

Chris

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09 Jan 2011 14:59:03
Even if we lose we seem a lot better already.

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09 Jan 2011 14:54:53
What do you guys see in meireles? yet again another crap performance from him. He gives the ball away every time and his shooting is appalling.

Ferryhill Red

{Editor Note: I'm sure it was more difficult for him, given that United had an extra man and he had one less option to pass to.}

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09 Jan 2011 14:52:02
Liverpool Rumours
Shelvey and Babel coming on.


If I were Kenny, I'd tell the team to get it into the United box as much as possible and whoever may get the ball to go down at the slightest touch. If they get to cheat then surely we're just levelling up the scores to what they should be.

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09 Jan 2011 14:49:16
Liverpool Rumours
Howard Webb has signed for manure. FACT

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09 Jan 2011 14:46:05
Is it just me or is miereles afraid to commit to a tackle

LAVERS

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09 Jan 2011 14:41:38
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Meirless is a great passer of the ball and an intelligent footballer but my god someone needs to give the lad some courage. hes pulling out of way too many 50/ 50s

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09 Jan 2011 14:38:16
Push on, attack, attack.

We have to take the risks. FA cup.

Get forward put pressure on and try to get the goal.

free kicks and pens. corners

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09 Jan 2011 14:37:52
Its a while since i last posted but read the site every day.
i have a couple of things to say - welcome home king kenny and you can see the players are looking better already with him in charge he will bring back the belief
secondly Howard Webb(chairman of th scum supporters club) is a disgrace the linesman never gave the pen who had a better view than him and the gerrard tackle is a foul and a yellow but he is coming in from the side and it is carricks kicking leg follow through that is caught - yes painful yes a foul and yes a yellow for being late but it is NOT dangerous - anyone who plays/ played the game(apart from fat sam) will tell you that - if he had jumped in from the front then he can break someones leg but from the side it is the kickers follow through that you catch so the leg is off the ground and you will not ever break a leg in a challenge like that.
howard webb is a disgrace and ferdinand shouting his mouth off got gerrard sent off

just hope we nick a 1-1 draw

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09 Jan 2011 14:36:57
Ed's note - Gerrard had to be red carded - jumped in with two feet, only himself to blame.

- - Yea ofcourse ed, but, but I think Carrick was also going with two legs, they both went at the same time only Gerrard was a bit too late. Rafael also went with two legs just a minute before that incident on Raul Meireles. He was unnoticed because Raul didn't make too much of it and Rafael's stud wasnt showing. Now I ask you this if you were to referee a match like Manchester United vs Liverpool, would you give a decision like that? I understand Gerrard was bit too silly, but as a Referee you have no right to ruin a match like this with two completely ridiculous decisions. And as we all know it's all goes to ManUnited' favor in Old Trafford- -No wonder in that if you ask me.

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09 Jan 2011 14:36:53
Cheating B* * * s.

Even Sam Alardyce said it wasn't a penalty.

FT

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09 Jan 2011 14:36:42
Liverpool Rumours
Now that Gerrard is going to be out for 3 games we are going to have to go out and buy someone special that can win a game.

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09 Jan 2011 14:36:27
Am i the only one who thinks we can dig out a draw. Ive barely critisized torreS this year, i always thought he would come through but god hes awful. bring on ngog at once!
We need him to hold the ball up. Nando is the worst on the pitch but he shud be the best. Lets hope he prooves me wrong though.
Harry5

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09 Jan 2011 14:36:01
Chaps calm down that was red. As for poor refs and descions. Blame fat blatter and boing boing platini.

ynwa muzmacol

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09 Jan 2011 14:35:45
Yed think big nose would have ran out of brown envelopes by now? or did he get some off arry? ?

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09 Jan 2011 14:35:36
Liverpool Rumours
Never read anything in the Sunday papers about Webb signing for united!

Chin up Kenny, onwards and upwards

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09 Jan 2011 14:34:00
Looks like Gerrard lost his head in the heat of the battle. He's no good to us in the changing room. Still think it wasn't a penalty tho & Webb is being a bit of a home bird. It's a pity! We where doing Ok.

Ed! What did you think of Rafaels tackle on Raul just before Gerrards? Do you need to be rolling on the ground before it can be deemed a dangerous tackle?

The Irish Rover

{Editor Note: I think he deserved a yellow for that for the pure intent. He went in with two feet which were off the ground and had he not got the ball it was a red.}

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09 Jan 2011 14:33:57
Liverpool Rumours
F* king joke. never a penalty, diving c* t. red was harsh but somewhat understandable, although webb is a manc loving scumbag. come on the pool, 2-1 win, pull it together lads, theres a hint of fight about us today, better football played also.

ryan c belfast ynwa

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09 Jan 2011 14:31:16
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Torres now needs good supply into the box.

we can get a pen, if the goal gets to him.

Need to push on with fullbacks. Its the FA Cup. So we are in it to win it.

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09 Jan 2011 14:29:56
Liverpool Rumours
Coward Webb. What a tosser! Yellow maybe but they both flew in. . and Berbatosspot should have been booked for the dive!
Another ref scared at the Theatre of Plebs!

El Diablo!

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09 Jan 2011 14:29:09
Liverpool Rumours
Has kenny peed off howard web ?

I don't think he is helping matters by going mental; on the ref in the tunnel

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09 Jan 2011 14:28:47
Liverpool Rumours
Never a red card or a penalty easy a 50-50 tackle and it was just the same as rafeal on merilas and nut was givin is this the same ref who absaloutly bottled the world cup final or and btw luis suarez is 3/ 1 on at skybet to sign for liverpool to 6/ 1 for spurs

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09 Jan 2011 14:28:39
Ed heard a rumour barnes beardsley and rush are comin on at half time. Gerrard had to go lads stupid tackle but berbatov took two steps from tackle and fall.

Fowler is god

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09 Jan 2011 14:28:14
This is theturdz speaking
as soon as i knew webb was the ref i knew then we would be on the recieving end of biased decisions against us he hates lfc and the fans hes all for united and what better way to spoil the kings homecoming by gifting this game to united hes a f* *ing disgrace obe my arse he shoul be knighted for services to united the yorkshire prick

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09 Jan 2011 14:26:41
Liverpool Rumours
Surprise, surprise. Howard Webb, resident Old Trafford ref, is put in charge of the biggest game in British football.
He's given Man U three dodgy penalties in the last few months - all at Old Trafford. After this monkey made a fool of himself in last season's 2-1 defeat he should have never been put in charge of this.

But, of course, he's contracted to Man U and must ref all their games.

The penalty was DEFINITELY not a penalty. If De Jong's assault on Alonso in the WC Final is a yellow, then Gerrard's tackle (IN WHICH HE GOT THE BALL) should have been laughed off by that moron.

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09 Jan 2011 14:26:12
Two-legged tackle. totally a penalty.no doubt.

Shebby

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09 Jan 2011 14:25:56
Good performance from the lads, shame webb had to ruin it. penalty was embarrassing and gerrard red card was yellow at worst (didnt see de jong karate kick be punished in the final like that). We are not sitting bak and hav been the better team , which is very good considering hodgsons away performances. i think we can get a draw if we push, but it is going to be difficult with 10 men. So come on reds lets show the scum (including webb) we are worthy winners today.

E.H LFC

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09 Jan 2011 14:25:38
Liverpool Rumours
Webb d***head didn't send de jong off in wc final for nearly killing alonso, but sends stevie off for sliding on floor
Defo united fn and we all know it
What did he get an mbe for
Greatest knob head in country
Cheating mancs got them a cheating ref

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09 Jan 2011 14:24:43
Liverpool Rumours
I don't think weebb is kuyts favourate person in the world right now. After world cup and this match.
Hes havin a go at him now
Harry5

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09 Jan 2011 14:24:31
What a dirty cheating diving t$£t. took a step after the touch then went down and still got pen, well done howard. you'll get your money for that. . . .

gerrard, 2 footed but got ball, or ball + player, he wasnt going into carrick, carrick's foot hit gerrard when getting ball.

mugged at the scum, as usual.

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09 Jan 2011 14:24:31
Liverpool Rumours
Berbatov's s diver

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09 Jan 2011 14:24:19
Liverpool Rumours
Not impressed with the ref
should not of been a pen and not a red card either

should been yellow. also there right back rafael i think it is. why was he not sent off ok he pulled out but i thought if there was intent its meant to be a red and there was intent

what ya think ed {ed's note - Rafael never left the ground, the players all know that leaving the ground is an automatic red, Gerrard knows this.}

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09 Jan 2011 14:22:06
Berbatov F###ing cheat that was never a penalty, gerrard sending off defo foul but yellow card carrick faking it T##T, on the pitch 12 vs 10 howard webb man of the match so far PR##k.

Maxi playing well whats with torres he just don't want to play take torres and lucas off.

LFC FAN (From Cardiff).

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09 Jan 2011 14:21:42
Fergie best signing - howard f* *ing webb

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09 Jan 2011 14:21:42
Liverpool Rumours
Well its a better performance today, but I'm now with the people saying its time for torres to go Roys gone and he's still not interested. This is how the scum stay unbeaten they cheat, same thing happened last week with west brom.

LAVERS

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09 Jan 2011 14:21:31
How much have they payed the ref {ed's note - Gerrard had to be red carded - jumped in with two feet, only himself to blame.}

BUT ED HE GOT THE BALL! {ed's note - it doesn't matter - he left the ground and the players have been told that is a straight red. He needs to grow up and get this out of his game, he is letting down the team by doing this.}

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09 Jan 2011 14:21:26
Refs a f#%*in manc.mancs are going thru the back of Torres everytime and we are given nothing.

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09 Jan 2011 14:20:27
Does this mean that stevie will miss the next 3 games or dosent that count in cup games?

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09 Jan 2011 14:19:47
Dont worry guys , its all hodgsons fault. Lol
Harry5

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09 Jan 2011 14:17:57
Thank you f* *in Webb ruined the game now. Well was ruined after 2 mins given berbacheat a penalty.

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09 Jan 2011 14:17:38
Liverpool Rumours
People rate aurielo but he is just bad as konchesky but just because pass performances you rate him hotly watch in the fa cip

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09 Jan 2011 14:15:47
Howard webb is a f* *ing s* t d***head

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09 Jan 2011 14:14:59
Liverpool Rumours
One goal down (pen)

Gerrard is off (RED)

Kenny looks worried

Ref Ref

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09 Jan 2011 14:13:38
Liverpool Rumours
Wonder if Howard Webb will come out for the second half with his Utd top on with number 12 Webb on the back?! !

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09 Jan 2011 14:13:15
Howard Webb won the title for MU 2 seasons ago when he 'gave' them a dodgy penalty when trailing 2-0 to spurs. Looks like he wants them to win the FA Cup now. After his performance in the World Cup Final he shouldn't be allowed to referee anywhere.
Mal 02

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09 Jan 2011 14:09:28
Liverpool Rumours
Always seems to be the same. Refs seem to be afraid to cross fergie. All decisions seem to go to united.

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09 Jan 2011 14:08:26
Liverpool Rumours
Gerrard red card man u 1-0 after 2 mins. . hmmmwats going on here

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09 Jan 2011 14:07:50
Howard Webb is a blind, fat f*ck (and that's not a rumour).

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09 Jan 2011 14:07:48
Howard Webb! f* *ed up world cup, now handed the game to the scum!
Lee73

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09 Jan 2011 14:07:19
Liverpool Rumours
I don't believe what i'm seeing! Red Card!? ? ?. After awarding a penalty after Berbatov dived.Howard Webb is a sh*t ref and it looks like he's a Man U fan.

The RoachMiester

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09 Jan 2011 14:06:44
Is webb a utd fan or summin . f* *in ridiculas
Harry5

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09 Jan 2011 14:06:38
Does Howard Webb support Man U? Totally against us today.

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09 Jan 2011 14:06:20
Liverpool Rumours
How much have they payed the ref {ed's note - Gerrard had to be red carded - jumped in with two feet, only himself to blame.}

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09 Jan 2011 13:55:03
F* *ing get stuck in torres. Tackle, challenge . Just something.
Harry5

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09 Jan 2011 13:54:56
Liverpool Rumours
Despite being 1-0 we do look much better on the ball and we seem to be playing as one unit keep it up boys From dan h

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09 Jan 2011 13:54:07
Why on earth doesn't kelly attack those set pieces?

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09 Jan 2011 13:37:45
As a Liverpool fan, what do you expect Kenny to do?

He is no magic answer.


The greatest player ever to grace Anfield? One of the greatest managers ever to grace the dugout? He knows exactly what it means to be Liverpool. If ANYONE can work miracles it's the king.
Alright i got fairly whiney about people bashing our players and manager this season. But if ANYONE bashes the king i will personally turn up at their house and slap them in the face. All these managers you've all been harping on about, and NONE of them could offer a patch on the wave of euphoria the king has brought to anfield. Just watch the fans' reaction. This is as good an appointment as NESV could have possibly made. And he will play wide, attacking football, with an emphasis on the players enjoying themselves. . .


Weak Berbatov you diving cheeser. . . .and Reina nearly had that too!
Duckula

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09 Jan 2011 13:35:47
Liverpool Rumours
Gotta love howard webb

muzmacol

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09 Jan 2011 13:35:29
Liverpool Rumours
Bunch of fxxxxxg cheats

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09 Jan 2011 13:35:12
Liverpool Rumours
BERBADICK THA DIVING BAST*ARD!

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09 Jan 2011 13:33:55
Liverpool Rumours
Purple nose looks like he had no sleep all night3-1 liverppol

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09 Jan 2011 13:30:05
Liverpool Rumours
Not happy with raul on wing. Smacks of roy madness. Soon as 'hard workin' kuyt is sold the better.

Muzmacol ynwa

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09 Jan 2011 13:28:45
Liverpool Rumours
Old red nose looks excited KK back in charge. He can feel a challenge on it's way. There was a wry smile on his face when asked about his appointment as though we've finally got it right

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09 Jan 2011 13:24:38
Why would you sell maxi he has probably been our best player so far this season
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Cause he is avg and not good enough for LFC. he also seems to have very little stomach for a fight. Thats why.

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09 Jan 2011 13:20:30
Liverpool Rumours
Best of luck LFC today.

Great to see Gerrard and Torres playing up-front again together.

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09 Jan 2011 13:18:51
Liverpool Rumours
Just seen owen interview and i think he's an a* e.

but one great thing i think everyone would agree with is we won't be going for carlton cole now. yeppy

pimpdaddy84

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09 Jan 2011 13:18:17
09 Jan 2011 12:55:07
Liverpool Rumours
Any team with Lucas in is weak, centre mid should without any question be Gerrard and Meireles, Torres should be partnered by Jovanovic or Kuyt or Cole playing off. I thought KK would see that

* * * * *
Actually makes me sad some LFC fans cannot see how rubbish Lucas is. Then they get on Meireles' back after only a few games when he is a proven Int & has played awesomely for Porto. No wonder we are where we are. Same with Kuyt, lovely lad, but he is so avg, lacking any pace and basic skills.

If we want to be a top club, we have to be realistic.

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09 Jan 2011 13:17:34
Liverpool Rumours
Why is mereiles playing on the right again?
only difference between last week is kelly playing!

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09 Jan 2011 13:17:15
Liverpool Rumours
Itv turned team
Y would kd play raul on right and kuyt up front

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09 Jan 2011 13:15:26
Liverpool Rumours
MAN UTD: Rafael, Ferdinand, J.Evans, Evra; Nani, Carrick, Fletcher, Giggs; Berbatov Chicharito. Subs: Lindegaard, Owen, Anderson, Smalling, Fabio, Obertan, Gibson.

This is apparently utds team today. Ferguson is so confident he hasn't bothered to name a keeper! Surely we can manage a victory now. Shoot on sight boys, shoot on sight!

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09 Jan 2011 13:14:28
Liverpool Rumours
Sitting here at Old toilet and you know what? There is a buzz again. . . THE KING IS BACK. . .lets have it! RED77

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09 Jan 2011 13:13:57
RE:Lucas in is weak, centre mid should without any question be Gerrard and Meireles


Center of mid is always strong player with a good passer. discipline.

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09 Jan 2011 13:13:27
Are people really disagreeing with my statement that a centre mid of Gerrard and Meireles is better than Lucas and Meireles??

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09 Jan 2011 13:13:21
09 Jan 2011 12:54:51
No koncheskey. very very interesting. not even on the bench. . . . . . . .

harry5:)

* * *

that will be because he is sh1te.
- - - - -
Hes injured dead leg

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09 Jan 2011 13:10:26
Liverpool Rumours
Bit dissapointed in the team for today

woud have liked to see the likes of pacheco, wilson and amoo at least on the bench , if not starting.

this would've definatl, y sent out a message of intent.

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09 Jan 2011 13:09:55
Liverpool Rumours
Good to see Kenny on the TV

Looks So Reflex's looks up to it., confidence

Its better than having mourhino

You'll never walk alone.

Come on you reds

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09 Jan 2011 13:09:42
Interviewer; What are you going to tell the players?

Kenny; Do you work for Alex Ferguson?

Classic!

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09 Jan 2011 13:09:01
Liverpool Rumours
What a mug adrian chiles.
long live the king, final score 2-1 to liverpool.

always a red

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09 Jan 2011 13:08:48
Liverpool Rumours
09 Jan 2011 12:12:22
Liverpool Rumours
It will help massively that our star players say they want to stay because that means we can bring in top players easier. But we do need a team fit for Torres.

* * * * * * * *
We have a team fit for Torres the way he is playing. He needs to wake up and smell the coffee.

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09 Jan 2011 13:05:55
Adrian chiles
What an a* ehole
Shouldnt employ people that are 100percent biased
He put a downer on everything

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09 Jan 2011 13:05:51
Liverpool Rumours
09 Jan 2011 11:30:10
Liverpool Rumours
Glad to see Torres is commited, just watch him now that woy has gone. now just get him the worldclass partner he needs.

* * * * * * *
Always thought Torres is better in a 4-3-3 system (4-5-1) when defending. He needs two pacy wingers who can cros and link up with him and an attacking CM (of the 3) that makes runs forward. Ed, your thoughts? {ed's note - I would prefer to see that formation with our current players, but I will trust Kenny to make the right choices from what he sees on the training pitch.}

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09 Jan 2011 13:04:25
I would pull in Steve Clark

Plus Peter Reid, and Ray Wilkins.

They need more coaches

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09 Jan 2011 13:04:04
Liverpool Rumours
Put a fiver on us winning 3-1 at odds of 50/ 1. Not bad odds I thought, especially with the King now taking over.

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09 Jan 2011 13:02:54
Sammy lee is such a great coach.

look at the wonderful job he did at bolton.

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09 Jan 2011 13:02:08
Liverpool Rumours
What a joke! Reports that Hodgson has walked away with 7 million for putting an historic club in the relegation zone, selling a promising player Da Lalle Valle and recruiting s* te like Konchesky and Poulsen! Benitez got 6 million and he took us to two European Cup finals and also won us an FA cup. Hodgson did his best to destroy us and gets even more money! PURSLOW has a lot to answer for - what a t* t!
My son tweeted on Twitter: "If Hodgson is the gentleman the press would have us believe then he would resign and not wait to be sacked for a big pay-off". He also had thousands of followers when he laid into a respected journalist who was trying to defend that retard Hodgson.
People in the press continually try to blame Benitez for the state of our current squad but seem to forget that under Benitez not only did we conquer Europe but we went to the San Siro, Nou Camp and Benaubeu (spelling) and taught some of the European greats a lesson as well as humilating United at Old Trafford. Most of the "poor" squad are still at Anfield!
Also the press continually slated zonal marking yet Liverpool's defensive record was among the best. Reina almost every season picking up the Golden Gloves award. Hodgson reverts to man-marking and we concede that many goals that we are in an negative goal difference. Where are the man-marking critics in the press - bloody silent now aren't they! !
Come on Kenny - restore that pride and greatness please!

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09 Jan 2011 13:01:57
Just seen the team sheet and normality has returned to LFC once more. Welcome back King Kenny, regardless of what happens today or over the coming weeks, you have brought a smile back to our household and your teamsheet today just highlights how wrong Roy has been persisting with players who should never have ever worn the famous red shirt.

Agger and Aurelio back where they belong. Torres supported by Captain Fantastic, come on lads, put the effort in today and show the world the what LFC is all about.

Thanks to John and Tom for making the decision.

Good luck. YNWA

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09 Jan 2011 13:00:23
JUST HEARD FROM A MATE. THIS IS THE TEAM FOR TODAY

- - - - - - - - - - -REINA- - - - - - - - - - - -
KELLY- - - SKRT- - - - - - AGGER- - -AURELIO


JOHNSON- - - -GERRARD- - -RAUL M- - -BABEL

- - - - - - - -TORRES- - - - - -COLE

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Raul would have his work cut out with Gerrard going walk about! !

Maxi on the left, Lucas in with Raul, Gerrard behind Torres & Babel & Cole on the Bench!

The Irish Rover

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09 Jan 2011 12:56:45
Liverpool Rumours
09 Jan 2011 12:52:44
Liverpool Rumours
Johnson missing. interesting

harry5:)
* * * * * * * * * * *

his wife is in labour.

square tomato

Thought Glen didn't poke his wife anymore only his mates?

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09 Jan 2011 12:56:08
Liverpool Rumours
Kuszczak,

Rafael, Ferdinand, Evans, Evra,

Nani, Carrick, Fletcher, Giggs,

Berbatov, Hernandez.


Isnt Evans a bit of bitch when powered on by two strikers

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09 Jan 2011 12:55:29
09 Jan 2011 12:39:51
Liverpool Rumours
As a Liverpool fan, what do you expect Kenny to do?

He is no magic answer.

Dont caare which fan you are go back to your own site.
Probs a spud or an arsenal fan
if you are arsenal shouldnt you be dusting your trophy cabinet. that all it collects DUST!

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09 Jan 2011 12:55:07
Liverpool Rumours
Any team with Lucas in is weak, centre mid should without any question be Gerrard and Meireles, Torres should be partnered by Jovanovic or Kuyt or Cole playing off. I thought KK would see that

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09 Jan 2011 12:54:51
No koncheskey. very very interesting. not even on the bench. . . . . . . .

harry5:)

* * *

that will be because he is sh1te.

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09 Jan 2011 12:53:41
Liverpool Rumours
Liverpool Rumours
Expect Kenny's appointment to show radically in Torres attitude.
I've heard he's delighted with KD - he will rediscover his motivation with a manager he respects.
solidair

Believable (47) Unbelievable (4)

Now he announces finally he's staying with us. Good start, now let's see the goals coming in.

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09 Jan 2011 12:53:05
Liverpool Rumours
Liverpool Rumours in reply to:
Never mind Dalglish as manager,

how much do we need a player of his calibre, left foot, right foot, running onto through balls, back to goal, scored from in and outside the box, the guy had everything.

LFC1

i totally agree with you! lets hope all the players listen and learn from the master craftsman; he will certainly encourage and target young talent within the club, what a mentor he will be; if they are good enough they will get their chance, along with talented new signings, and if one or two can emulate kennys skills when he was playing then nuff said!

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09 Jan 2011 12:49:58
Liverpool Rumours
What's going to happen to sammy lee?

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09 Jan 2011 12:49:40
Liverpool Rumours
Just read on this site that meireles is a replacement for alonso are you having a laugh meireles not in the same class but i know who is ever benega of valencia he is class and of the same mould of alonso great passer can play in the holding role where he will get the ball and play it around great skills and wouldn't cost around 10-15 mill what do you think ed as i think he has been link with us

{editor: He is a similar type of player to Alonso.}

everybosy as there opinion ed but for me they are 2 completely different players meireles plays more forward playing short quick passes to try keep play going alnso is more a deeper pick passes player why do you think he scored so many halfway line goals.

{editor: Sorry I meant Banega.}

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09 Jan 2011 12:49:38
Liverpool Rumours
Can we get the midwife to keep glens wifes tights on until may

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09 Jan 2011 12:47:32
Liverpool Rumours
RE: Glad to see Torres is commited, just watch him now that woy has gone. now just get him the worldclass partner he needs

He already has the world class partner he needs. He's called Steven Gerrard

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09 Jan 2011 12:47:02
No koncheskey. very very interesting. not even on the bench. . . . . . . .

harry5:)

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09 Jan 2011 12:43:33
Wait a second i remember arbeloa getting injured also a rb. got taken out of the team. when we won 4.1

harry5:)

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09 Jan 2011 12:39:51
Liverpool Rumours
As a Liverpool fan, what do you expect Kenny to do?

He is no magic answer.

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09 Jan 2011 12:36:30
Liverpool Rumours
Sometimes I think, why can't we just have a sugar daddy like sheik mansour, no talk all action, but then we sell the club to someone like NESV, who hav only made one good decision so far, and that is to hire king kenny.
Stupid Y*NKS,

Thanks but no y*nks

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09 Jan 2011 12:33:47
Liverpool Rumours
Reina,

G Johnson, Carragher, sketel Aurelio,

Lucas Joe Cole


Gerrard
Kuyt Milian


Torres

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09 Jan 2011 12:33:22
Liverpool Rumours
Hi ED I submitted earlier in the week regarding the managers position stating that we had to have faith in the owners and they would to do the right thing at the rights time. I am so glad that i was right and they have finally reached what I think was the best option at this troubled time.
Listening to the Liverpool fans responses gives me goose bumps, Dalglish as manager is the best news at a dire time that anyone attached to the club could have had.
As Shanks said "it feels like we are walking ten foot tall" Liverpool once again feels like "HOME" it feels like all the family coming home for Christmas, it feels like stepping back into those Golden years. For the first time in years it feels like LIVERPOOL (no matter what the result, truly YOU'LL NEVER WALK ALONE.

How do you feel ED

Evered

{editor: I am over the moon}

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09 Jan 2011 12:31:33
Liverpool Rumours
Not felt this good for months. .
COME ON REDS

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09 Jan 2011 12:29:32
Liverpool Rumours
Honda in action against jordan. . . 1st tym ever ill wtch him play. .

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09 Jan 2011 12:25:22
Liverpool Rumours
Long live the king! more positive news in the last 24 hours than in last 2 years and a ball has nt been kicked. please give young sterling a chance he is a star or have him on the bench.

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09 Jan 2011 12:23:29
Liverpool Rumours
We have signed

Hazard
Bojan
Jovetic
sakho
hummels
santon
and got rid of
poulsen
jova
skrtel
kygiakos
maxi

relaaaxxx . in my FIFA 11 only

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09 Jan 2011 12:21:26
Liverpool Rumours
Where can i wotch the game online?

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09 Jan 2011 12:19:38
I have never understood why poulsen is captain of denmark when agger is 50000 times the player he is o.O

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09 Jan 2011 12:18:38
Liverpool Rumours
Right lads.

I've read and loved this site for a while now and this is my first post.

Liverpool Football Club has an amazing history. A history built on togetherness and belief no matter what. Built by Shanks and continued through other great managers. Rafa and Houllier included.

Slowly we are getting back to our roots. Roots some of the new breed of fans don't quite understand. Which isn't a criticism it's just the way the media can control our thinking.

The owners act in a dignified manner keeping things quiet until they are ready to talk. Also they have just shown they are not afraid to act, and are prepared to listen.

So now it's our turn, the fans or as Kenny said our people. No longer do we argue with each other or question every aspect or decision. We support our team and support each other. Strength in Unity is what we the fan are world famous for. Look how many travelled to Istanbul, Dortmund, Athens etc etc. Even at Blackburn the other night our fans sang all night trying to lift the team.

That's what we're about. So ignore the press, radio, and tv channels. Liverpool Football Club is the only place you need to go to find out the truth.

Keep the rumours coming guys and keep up the good work editors. The future starts now. .

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09 Jan 2011 12:18:21
I see an aurelio freekick. history can repeat itself. . .

harry5:)

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09 Jan 2011 12:17:07
Fully agree with Warnock (probably the first time) Diouf is not only a disgrace to football but the human race

TC

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09 Jan 2011 12:11:18
Liverpool Rumours
Liverpool Rumours
IHaveaBoomstick Reina, johnson, skrtel, agger, aurelio, kuyt, lucas, meireles, maxi, torres, gerrard - just given by Graham Beacroft
Official team kids
Matthew thompson

++++++++++++++++++++++++

Here lies the problem if you are correct. Johson can't defend, its there for all the world to see. The answer and soloution is obvious, so obvious its not wot=rth bothering with. 3 weal links in that team, both flanks and the RB.

Muzmacol YNWA

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09 Jan 2011 12:07:53
Liverpool Rumours
I would be happy with almost any side today, so long as we a) attack, b) have no konchesky or poulsen in squad, c) play 2 up front and finally d) kelly right back either in place of or moving johnson to wing.

Fina point while i'm happy that man has gone and pleased Kenny is in charge; please stop with the Keegan like 'saviour0 nonesense! its painful and embarrassing.

Good luck today play and enjoy, nowt to lose today imo!

Muzmacol ynwa

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09 Jan 2011 12:06:11
Attacking football here we come !

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09 Jan 2011 11:51:52
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Ed, if you were asked to pick what you think is our best starting 11 and bench what would it be and in what formation

{editor: Reina, Kelly, Carragher, Agger, Aurelio, Johnson, Gerrard, Meireles, Jovanovic, Cole and Torres. Subs: Jones, Skrtel, Lucas, Pacheco, Babel and Maxi. I would play 4-4-1-1. What about you?}

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09 Jan 2011 11:50:42
09 Jan 2011 09:12:19
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Gerrards house is up 4 sale but i think he just wants to move house nothink eles ed do u no urself if it is up 4 sale and any news on any singings yet?

{editor: I am not sure about Gerrard's house, I think it is just a rumour. I can't see Gerrard leaving though. No news on signings, sorry.}
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he wouldn't sell his house even if he left for gods sakes!

harry5:)

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09 Jan 2011 11:49:02
09 Jan 2011 09:13:26
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JUST HEARD FROM A MATE. THIS IS THE TEAM FOR TODAY

- - - - - - - - - - -REINA- - - - - - - - - - - -
KELLY- - - SKRT- - - - - - AGGER- - -AURELIO


JOHNSON- - - -GERRARD- - -RAUL M- - -BABEL

- - - - - - - -TORRES- - - - - -COLE

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United would have a field day with that midfield. If they control the midfield they'll control the game.

Trishan

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09 Jan 2011 11:46:06
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Wheres the updates on the page ed

{editor: Sorry there has not been anyone on the Liverpool page, I am getting through them now.}

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09 Jan 2011 11:45:19
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TO THE PERSO WHO POSTED THIS
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09 Jan 2011 08:39:01
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My wishlist

In
Suarez 15m
Honda 12m
van der Wiel 10m
Schmelzer 10m
Wickham 6m
Turan 10m

Summer
Mata 15m
Hazard 20m

Total 98m
Out
Konchesky 3m
Poulsen 4m(Sevilla willing to pay that amount 0.o)
Kygriakos 1m
Johnson 15m(Madrid, Inter, Juve willing to pay that)
Spearing 1m
Darby 1m
Aquilani 14m
Maxi 4m
Jovanovic 4m
Cole 6m
Babel 8m
Ngog 7m
Total 68m

98m-68m=30m which is a fairly reasonable amount
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why would you sell maxi he has probably been our best player so far this season
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09 Jan 2011 11:36:37
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My wishlist

In
Suarez 15m
Honda 12m
van der Wiel 10m
Schmelzer 10m
Wickham 6m
Turan 10m

Summer
Mata 15m
Hazard 20m

Total 98m
Out
Konchesky 3m
Poulsen 4m(Sevilla willing to pay that amount 0.o)
Kygriakos 1m
Johnson 15m(Madrid, Inter, Juve willing to pay that)
Spearing 1m
Darby 1m
Aquilani 14m
Maxi 4m
Jovanovic 4m
Cole 6m
Babel 8m
Ngog 7m
Total 68m

98m-68m=30m which is a fairly reasonable amount

This is a rumor page and why would we sell maxi and cole and also spearing and even possibly jova when maxi has been awsome spearing will be cole will be and jova hasnt been given a chance?

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09 Jan 2011 11:12:28
The game is on normal tv itv1 from 1.30pm

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09 Jan 2011 11:10:41
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Brilliant, He's had the Job one day and the King has already done something that Roy couldn't do in six months. Inject some Positive energy and optimism into the fans. just look at this site, Friday all doom and gloom, Saturday everyone's got there imagination back.
I thought Hodgson would at least steady the ship, after a month I realised it wasn't going to work.

FSG, though maybe acting too slowly, have in fact probably got this right. Now realising that things could only get worse. The fans are now happier within one day, will probably pack out Anfield, and be back to their best and hopefully this will give the players a buzz and give them the passion back. They realise that whatever happens now, Kenny can't take the blame for a poor season, and if it all works out, they could possibly give him more time, or they find a new man (which they've given themselves more time to identify without having to appoint someone in panic) They can turn around at the end of the season and say it was only temporary no matter what happens.

There's nothing to lose and everything to gain, hopefully this will show in the way they play the game and start hunting teams down.

Everyone knows what type of player is needed, and it looks like Kenny has been watching those players.

Even if we don't get anyone else in, I expect to see a better performance out of those already there. If anyone can get those players to give their all, the King can.

Come on Liverpool. YNWA

El Diablo!

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09 Jan 2011 10:58:59
"Ok whoever is saying gerrard is leaving why the f* k would he leave liverpool now, he is playing under king kenny who is his childhood hero"

1. Admission that this season is a write off and that next year will be rebuilding with a young team for the future.

2. That SG wants to be winning trophies, has a couple of years left in his legs and can do so at Real Madrid whilst Liverpool bring through the youth.

3. That it will be of long term value to liverpool if the future coaches experienced life in different leagues and under some of the worlds best managers before rejoining the coaching staff.

4. That the 'team' will benefit in the long term by allowing them to develop more creativity across the midfield rather than relying on a single player - who frankly is to free a player tactically to pin in his desired centre midfield role.

5. That Real Madrid are likely to pay silly money, for a short term purchase, which can help the rebuilding.

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09 Jan 2011 10:50:04
Get real liverpool supporters you not a good team any more just a poor avarage team 4 0 today

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09 Jan 2011 10:44:26
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KELLY- - - SKRT- - - - - - AGGER- - -AURELIO


JOHNSON- - - -GERRARD- - -RAUL M- - -BABEL

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I thought miereles was out injured? Ed?

{editor: I think he is fit again.}

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09 Jan 2011 10:41:07
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Ed what is your prediction for today mate?

{editor: Man Utd 0 - 24 Liverpool. In all seriousness I just hope it is a great game.}

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09 Jan 2011 10:39:02
Just spent the majority of an hour explaining to my girlfriend who KK is and what he means to the club and got myself all excited again. cheers john and NESV/ FSG, i honestly don't think there's a better choice than the one that was made

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09 Jan 2011 10:15:13
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We got benitez out we got the yanks out now we got hodgson out where does it end, we got king kenny in so what happens if we don't improve will we turn on the king surley its the over paid players on the turf that have put our beloved club in this mess.why can't we go back to the days where every1 from the top down to the pitch had liverpool in there blood and not £ signs.also y can't agger play left back thought his die hard approach v arsenal was brill just what this club needs oh and another 10

{editor: Agger hated playing left back.}

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09 Jan 2011 10:10:26
Nah mate im in australia! all good, i try those sights. thanks buddy

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09 Jan 2011 10:07:49
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Hi boys Stevie here any1 wann wish me luck 4 2dayz game then ur welcome, kk has told me tht i will be in the stands as he h8s me. nando is on his last warning, hull r gonna buy him for cut price 10ner on last day on window,

watch dis space

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09 Jan 2011 09:59:00
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Hi ed just wondering where I can view the game tonight?

{editor: Kick off is 1:30pm. It is on ITV1, if you cannot get that channel then there have been some links posted on this site.}

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09 Jan 2011 09:46:44
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?Above all, I would like to be remembered as a man who was selfless, who strove and worried so that others could share the glory, and who built up a family of people who could hold their heads up high and say, 'We're Liverpool'.?

bill shankly

ryan c belfast ynwa

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09 Jan 2011 09:45:14
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Why liverpool is still not playing Kelly in first team. Remember his performance against Chelsea. Chelsea was in excellant run at that moment and Kelly coped with Malouda (LW), who is in great form at that period of time. He should be our premier Right Back and put Johnson at Midfield.

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09 Jan 2011 09:44:54
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Not a rumour but love it that not only people I know but a couple of people here agree that Kelly should be RB & Johnson move to RW. Kills two birds in one in my opinion. Also frees up Kuyt/ Babbel/ Maxi to support Nando. Same with Aurelio, push him forward & get Insua back. Wings covered until suitable signings come. What's your opinion ED?

{editor: I like the idea of the right hand side being Kelly and Johnson. Not sure about Aurelio on the left, Maxi is playing well there. Aurelio is also our most solid left back so I would like to see him played there.}

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09 Jan 2011 09:44:53
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Something for the team to think about today,

?If you're not sure what to do with the ball, just pop it in the net and we'll discuss your options afterwards.?

bill shankly

ryan c belfast ynwa

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09 Jan 2011 09:40:59
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{editor: You where a bit young? Im 19! I know that he, like others before him played attractive pass and move football. We should see more possitive team selections and performances.


cheers,
your the new ed arnt you? your doing a good job mate.
obviously the history shows he has a winning method to the way he works, just wasnt sure if he won games by attacking, or the jose way of shutting teams out, to be honest i would just take a few wins at the moment and climb thew table. we are lucky in the sense that everyone has been dropping points this year, and a decent second half of the season could push us up to at least challenge for top four. lets hope chelsea continue to slide and tottenham get caught up in the champions league for as long as possible so they drop points in the prem. hope the board back him in jan, and we get in some players.

{editor: Yes I am the new ed and thankyou.}

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09 Jan 2011 09:37:50
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Roy's Gone. . . .KENNY IS BACK. . . . TODAY'S TEAM. . .Brucie. nicol. hansen. gillespie. burrows. houghton. whelan. Mcmahon. barnes. rush. beardsley. ha ha . we can hope. come on you red men.

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09 Jan 2011 09:26:47
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Ok whoever is saying gerrard is leaving why the f* k would he leave liverpool now, he is playing under king kenny who is his childhood hero

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09 Jan 2011 09:22:33
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09 Jan 2011 09:01:57Liverpool RumoursHey anyone know where i can catch todays game online for free? not showing on my pay tv! spewing!

where i am the game is on itv mate, is it not the same for you? if not then try atdhe.com or myp2p.com

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09 Jan 2011 09:22:04
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Am I the only one who still thinks that Babel has something to offer? So many people have said to sell him yet he hasn't been given a fair chance in his preferred position since we have bought him.
I think if Kenny can bring Turan in, which I strongly believe he will try to do, we have a good enough team to move up to 4th.
Reina

Johnson Agger Skrtel Aurelio

Kuyt Gerrard Meireles Turan

Torres Babel

With Kelly, Cole, Jovanovic, Ngog as replacements its minimal money out, 12m approx, yet could seriously work. I believe between Benitez and Hodgson, Babel's confidence was destroyed and I think King Kenny might just get the best out of him.
What do you reckon Ed?

{editor: You have made some good points, I do beleive that we need a world class striker to partner Torres though.}


i completely agree about babel, he like many other players is all about confidence. he had a great first season when he arrived because he was in the team on a consistant basis. i know his workrate at times is poor, but it must be difficult to motivate yourself if you no even if you score your gonna be dropped next game. he offers so much more than n'gog upfront imo, he also would be better on the right wing as opposed to being played down the left. offers alot more than kuyt going forward.
babel came with a huge reputation of being the next thierry henry, now im by no means saying he will ever reach that level but he is a talented player. maybe a 7/ 8 game run with kenny's arm around his shoulder may give him the foundation to go on a gain the support of the fans and show us what he can do.
also ed, ive gotta be honest, im 27, so the last time kenny was in charge i was 6/ 7and although i was a fan at the time i was a bit young to remember. what sort of football does he like to play? are we finally gonna see some offensive displays?

matt 27

{editor: You where a bit young? Im 19! I know that he, like others before him played attractive pass and move football. We should see more possitive team selections and performances.}

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09 Jan 2011 09:19:02
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Morning lads here is my dream team for this year

: : : : : : : : : :Reina: : : : : : : :

Santon: : Lovren: :Agger: : Coentrao

Johnson: :Gerrard: Honda: : : :Turan

: : : : : : Nando: : Suarez: : : : : :

what are the chances Ed??

{editor: I can't see there been 6 signings in January, looks a good team though!}

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09 Jan 2011 09:16:36
Roy thanks for 6 months u were here, sorry u have to leave but it wasnt working at. good luck with ur next job. kenyny shoulve been manager at the start, but we gotta put theselast 6 months behind us and go forward. come on king kenny. u can do it.

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09 Jan 2011 09:13:26
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JUST HEARD FROM A MATE. THIS IS THE TEAM FOR TODAY

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KELLY- - - SKRT- - - - - - AGGER- - -AURELIO


JOHNSON- - - -GERRARD- - -RAUL M- - -BABEL

- - - - - - - -TORRES- - - - - -COLE

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Hmm. like this though could be bit narrow on the left. I would have Maxi with Babel on the bench.

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09 Jan 2011 09:12:48
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09 Jan 2011 07:47:07Liverpool RumoursAm I the only one who still thinks that Babel has something to offer? So many people have said to sell him yet he hasn't been given a fair chance in his preferred position since we have bought him.

i agree mate. personally i think if babel was played a lot more he would prove a lot of his critics wrong. he has pace and an eye for goal, not to mention a thunderous strike. i think his problem is that, under benitez, he was played out of position on the left as torres was the lone striker, so he couldn't perform to the best of his ability and he knew he wouldn't get on in front of torres, which made him lazy. show a little confidence in him and give him a run up front, WITH TORRES, he could be a nightmare for the opposition. a lot of people don't seem to realise this. pacheco is slowly going the same way, played on the left, where he is ineffective. rush himself once said, 'a striker needs a run of about 6/ 7 games to hit top form', give babel that run

ryan c belfast ynwa

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09 Jan 2011 09:11:22
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Just watched Turan on YouTube (dont kill me just yet I know it makes then look good) and I really think he encompasses all that Liverpool is and should be, a quick skillful player who plays a pass and move game, good resale value, captains experience, but for me most importantly this lads screaming out to wear a Liverpool shirt, he wants to play for us and would have pride and honour in wearing that shirt, Ian st john said in his autobiography that everytime he put a Liverpool shirt on it was like he had every single fans energy behind him and he actually had tears of pride running down his face in a line up, that's the type if player we need. . .
Long live the king, get us Turan and bring back the pride! !

Trillionaire

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09 Jan 2011 09:01:57
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Hey anyone know where i can catch todays game online for free? not showing on my pay tv! spewing!

cheers

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09 Jan 2011 08:42:12
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Whats all this cr*p about mediocre players we keep getting linked with. stop all the crap about english players. There are none out there really.
There is only Gerrard and wilshere and adam johnson.

our liverpool reserves are exactly that. all this about wilson and kelly sparing ecclestone etc none of them are really premiership - their not even championship material.
Liverpool fans wake up and stop going on about these less than mediocre players.
foreign players are way more technically gifted and skillful. english players are very rarely at the same level.

I posted Liverpool future team earlier - so have a look at that. Serious contenders for tile with that team
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Absolutely correct m8 i dnt undersstand y we r linked with these junk players, try buyin sum class from la liga example or some talents like 20's bryan ruiz, if we sold these rubbish players and buy raw european talent we cud have a gr8 reserve team as well as sum decent bakup players, also think suso and pacheco shud be givn more of a chance n nando needs sum1 like hulk or cardozo to play with.
main message: sel spearing, ecclestone, kelly and the rest of the lfc school team and buy suum top youth players, make them better wit exp, then lets see whos competing 4 title our example shud be the gooners, look at their team, we need young strikers like them.

wafa

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09 Jan 2011 08:39:49
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Haven't felt this good in a long time. Feel sorry for Roy in the end, decent bloke just in wrong place at wrong time, job should have gone to KK in first place. Embarrassed for alot of the comments about him. Sure he understands it wasn't about him, to be fair, more about us getting our club back after all the turmoil of recent years.
Great to feel the positive vibe again, thanks Kenny and good luck big man!
L19Red

Team Selection.

Reina


Kelly Skrtel Agger Aurelio


Gerrard Meireles


Johnson Cole Babel


Torres

Subs: Jones, Wilson, Shelvey, Pacheco, Kuyt

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09 Jan 2011 07:44:06
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All this rumour text about forwards and attacking midfielders and nothing about defenders. Fact is that our problems stem from the fact that with Carra injured and Agger only just back we have had to rely upon 2 centre backs with no brains, no pace and no ability. Get Cahill from Bolton put him alongside Agger, put Kelly in at right back and replace Konchesky. If we then start building from the back and not humping balls forward we have the players that can create and play attacking football.

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09 Jan 2011 06:55:33
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I see shanks words still in kenny's head. " it's a honour to play and work you" an honour to work and play for LFC. That's what is missing from our club right now, Is tommo coming macca or Ed?
Just woke up picked phone up, to see if anything more of kenny, and seen the return of kenny from holiday. this an backto sleep now lol see 1 man can make a man this in between sleep, Sack the naked wife laying next to me. Zoe laps waiting at that airport wasn't there

{editor: It is unclear who will be assistant to Kenny.}

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09 Jan 2011 06:51:10
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Just read KK's interview with LFC.TV and I think quite rightly so he's trying to calm us all down and asking us to be realistic about our expectations for the season. Reading between the lines he's basically saying lets take it one game at a time and see where we end up. He's well aware that certain players have under performed or have been perceived as showing no pride or commitment in the shirt in the past but this is what he won't stand for. I think he'll be looking to improve on our points tally from first half of season (and lets be honest that should be the bare minimum we can expect) but also rediscover the connection between the fans and the players. As the saying goes you can't polish a turd so lets keep our expectations in tact, but on the other hand lets all get back together as one - massive group hug - put the past behind us and move forward! With regards to transfer rumours, I don't think KK will be afraid to use youth if he believes they can do a job so the main bulk of spending maybe won't come to the summer so be warned. Lets hope today is the first day of something beautiful. COME ON REDMEN!

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09 Jan 2011 05:59:14
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King Kenny & Damien Comolli must act fast and signed either these players cos other clubs are hovering:
Davide Santon, Mamadou Sakho, Fabio Coentrao,
Marko Marin, Arda Turan, Eden Hazard, Moussa Sissoko, Alexis Sanchez, Hulk, Luis Suarez, Romelo Lukaku.

P/ S:Regretted that we didn't make an offer for Dzeko.27 million is a steal.He's the ideal partner for Torres.

YNWA-G351T

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09 Jan 2011 05:27:31
Seriously. these rumours linking us with Carlton Cole, and Stephan Ireland, has to stop, now woy has gone. am sure kenny won't sign these carp players who are cinsidered as waste even by their own clubs. .

ED, any thoughts! ! ! ! !

{Editor's Note: We will have to see what happens.}

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09 Jan 2011 05:20:40
Agger ( our best dfender @the moment) for a swap with Villa's Stephan Ireland. what a s* t player he is now.even villa is now trying to get rid of him .this press now a days are making rumours that make us fans sick.

As far as i know lfc have only intersted in Ashly young, am sure kenny won't buy this type of s* t!

ED: are there any truth in Ireland Rumour. .do you think kenny will go for him. .

{Editor's Note: No.}

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09 Jan 2011 05:07:21
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How fitting that NESV were hiding in the background all that time every Liverpool supporter was calling for new owners. They have proved they can turn around the fortunes of the Red Sox after winning a couple titles and they have come in for Liverpool at a
time when this is very much needed.

King Kenny was their plan all along and have spoken about him favourably on numerous occassions, how could you not. He was the last manager to win the league at Liverpool, most decorated player and has proved he can do it managing another club under the right circumstances, which Nesv look to be willing to back him on.

Mark my words Woy, King Kenny won't be uttering anything about attempting to settle for draws or attempting to settle for losses against shiite opposition at home. When he steps up it will be "We want nothing but to WIN". This is what Liverpool was built on and this is what supporters want to hear when you want them behind you.

Put yourself in the place of any of the Liverpool players and consider you're playing in the FA cup where passion and pride is everything on top of that at manure. We're set for a firecracker. And when this revolution is complete we're gonna shut the rest of you fookers up, its gonna be for good.

It's not a ruuumour!

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09 Jan 2011 04:29:57
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Watching Steven Gerrard walk up to the spot to take the penalty late in the game against Blackburn Rovers, I was confident he would score for Liverpool. When faced with adversity, Gerrard often rises to the occasion. Earlier in the season, Gerrard cooly slotted home a penalty against fiercest rivals Manchester United even though the vast majority at Old Trafford was begging him to miss.

Except Gerrard's penalty against Blackburn didn't go according to script. After Gerrard pulled one back for Liverpool and then won a penalty, the Reds had a chance - with five minutes left - to find an equalizer. That is, if Gerrard could first slot the penalty away. But he didn't and the ball sailed over the bar.

Usually I don't question a player's character, but in this particular instance with a chance to put Liverpool in the ascendency, Gerrard flubbed his shot. Now whether he did this on purpose or not, we'll probably never know. I respect the man as a footballer, but based on how Gerrard took the penalty, I have to question whether he tried to miss it on purpose or not.

The way that Gerrard chipped the ball over the bar seemed to look so unlike the way that Gerrard normally takes a penalty kick. He seemed so nonchalant when he took the shot. And even after it sailed over the bar, he didn't seem that bothered.

Realizing the precarious position that manager Roy Hodgson is in, I have to question whether Gerrard thought about missing that penalty on purpose or not. Yes, Gerrard is Liverpool through and through, but in his deep psyche he must have considered the thought. It certainly seemed that way judging by how he took the penalty kick.

By shooting the penalty kick over the bar, Gerrard has most probably decided the fate of Hodgson's future at Liverpool

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09 Jan 2011 04:27:03
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Also heard about a possible loan deal for udinese striker Floro Flores? Not sure if hes any good as ive never seen him play but hes got a funky name!

micky bo belfast red

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09 Jan 2011 04:27:02
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Editor Note: There are a select few who don't like it but I don't think it is that big an issue.}

Your rite ed Alonso is a basque boy and he had no probs going to madrid

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09 Jan 2011 04:25:41
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* *Rumour* *
Kenny Dalgish & Damien Commoli has already agreed to table an offer for Ajax Forward Luis Suarez & Arda Turan , next week as NESV has given the green light to make the deal go through. .( Kenny have being scouting both the players for a long time & Commoli also has interest in both players) looks like this kenny is acting realy fast.

ED : do you have any info regarding this. .

{Editor Note: None mate.}

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09 Jan 2011 04:20:32
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I heard a roumour at the pub, don't know how true it is, but someone was saying Gerrard Missed the Penalty against Blackburn on purpose.

He decided to sell Roy Hodgson down the river. And placed the shot over the bar knowing that he would bring Hodgson's downfall and stay king of the dressing room.

By that time in the game, Gerrard knew the game was over

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09 Jan 2011 04:01:14
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To be honesti think are central midfield is quite stron with, gerrard, lucas and meireles and even cole if need be but i think our backs are below average.

Skrtel and kyrigakos are clumsy and are always havin lapses in concentration, Cara is injured and our only one left is agger, (who is top class)
So we should find a strong defender with lots of experience in big leagues. we should snatch up Turan, and Mata if we can and from there kk can destroy the premier league.

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09 Jan 2011 04:01:02
Arda Turan's girlfriend is HOT

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09 Jan 2011 03:45:03
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Hi, ed, will, kennys, no2, be, in, the, dugout, 2mrw, i, have, heard, talk, of, wilkens/ rush, any, info, mate

{Editor Note: Probably not, he just arrived back from Dubai in Southport in the early hours of the morning. Maybe next week.}

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09 Jan 2011 03:41:21
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Hi all,

This is more a statement rather than a rumour! I'm always on the site checking for news (great site! With ED's that know what they are talking about! !). When Macca posted that hodgson would be gone before the scum game I was in my element! No disrespect for the man, I just don't think he was the right man for the job under the circumstances but he done himslf no favours on camera and on the pitch, talked rubbish and negitive tactics! Not what we want for our club! I wanted benitez out 2 years ago and Kenny was always my choice to replace him, I was gutted he didn't get the job in summer! Today has been the most excited i've been since we won the C.L 2005! Thats too long! I have to give alot of respect to Martin Broughtin for pulling off the sale of the century because so far NESV have been everything this great club needed! They don't bulls*&t us with broken promises, they said they would listen to the fans and bring us back to the greatness that we once were! So far they have kept their word on the first two! And appointing King Kenny is one step closer to the third! I believe souness was the man that started our decline and now that the legend is back, he will take us forward! He will unite the fans again, bring pride back to name that has lost its way through bad management since he left. Kenny will give the players the main ultimatum that the fans deserve!

"When you put on that Red jersey with that beloved crest, you are not playing for a wage, you have been given the opportunity which is every supporters boyhood dream to become immortalised as someone who plays or played for the greatest club that ever will be! You are not 11 men on a pitch, you are hundreds of thousands of people all wanting to win! You are the Greatest Football Club in history! You are Liverpool FC!

To all that is Liverpool! Bring on the scum! !


Irish, Red and Proud! !

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09 Jan 2011 03:16:02
Just need to take it easy lads. .king kenny is not a miracle worker. poor players still at the club. ill take a draw at old trafford and take the b* tards at anfield. .nesv need to back king kenny in januarywith quality signings

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09 Jan 2011 02:18:13
I think a Diamond formation for LFC .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Reina. . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . .Johnson. . . .Kelly. . . Agger. . .Aurelio. . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . .Gerrard. . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . Lucas. . . . . . . . . . . . Meireles. . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Cole. . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . .Torres. . . . .Jovanovic. . . . . . .


Just about the most interesting game there has been in a long time .

1977

{Editor Note: Wouldn't fancy having Gerrard in front of the back four to be honest mate.}

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09 Jan 2011 02:05:20
Watching Arda Turan on youtube he does look quality he has speed, strenght, skill, can assist and score goals but reminds me bit of Aaron Lennon the way he plays out wide speed skill.

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09 Jan 2011 02:02:55
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Ed what do u think the chances are of ray wilkins as kennys no 2 i think he would be a exellent choice chelsea not the same team since he left also will transfer targets remain the same now that roys gone or will kk have his own targets what u think ed

{Editor's NOte: ray is a really nice guy and would do a good job - but I am not so sure he will be in the running.}

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09 Jan 2011 01:53:44
Liverpool Rumours
Tomorrows line up:

Reina
Johnson Skrtel. Agger. Aurelio

Lucas
Maxi Meireles Babel

Gerrard
Torres

Subs: Gulasci, Kelly, Wilson, Kuyt, Pacheco, Cole, Jovanovic.

Red&White789

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09 Jan 2011 01:49:05
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Ed - i posted a short while ago about kenny coming back and getting carra in now.i can see why you might be reluctant - he's a defender ad perhaps it could be sad he'll bring that approach to the way the team is set up.all i would say is that he would bleed for the club, as would kenny and i think with him there he could act as a great link to the squad and learn from the king at the same time.he's also a student of the game and i think would pick up some great habits from kenny. i also think kenny needs to work with somebody as passionate about the club as him but somebody younger who could take up the job in a few years.stu

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09 Jan 2011 01:22:53
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Kk to get top 4 finish not imposible also bring in turan just 1 out of 3 or 4 players in transfer window going to give whole club a lift its been needing starting with hammering scum tomorrow roll on good times

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09 Jan 2011 01:02:10
Hi Everyone just a little debate with KK in now what would you be happy with this season

FA Cup and Europa league winners with Europa spot again - bel

or

Champions League spot - unbel


LFC Fan (From Cardiff)

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09 Jan 2011 00:45:48
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Kenny was not my choice for manager but we shud all back him now. i know he will give the whole team a lift but we need to start playing as a team and win a few game to get a run going. he'll get a backing from the stands that no other man could even dream of. just wish i could be at his first game back at anfield in the dug out. my boys have never witnessed the king as player or manager. they only know what i told them and the videos i've shown them and they're jumping with excitment. lets all get behind him now and hope he can bring in a couple of players of the caliber of barnes and beardsley and houghton and let us climb the league into the top 4 and beat the scum in the cup and go on and win it and win the europa cup as well! ! ould whiskey nose must be s* tting himself! ynwa

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09 Jan 2011 00:28:30
Hope saf has some poppers tonight, i bet his arse must be twitching knowing his f@@@k buddy is no longer in charge and that the king is comimg after him.

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09 Jan 2011 00:25:04
Liverpool Rumours
Ed here's an interesting thought!
What are the chances that if Dalglish gets the managers job full time that he'll bring in Benitez to do his old job as ambassador for the club?
It was Benitez who brought Dalglish back if you remember and I'm sure Raffa would love to come back involved within the club because of his love and the fact his family are settled in caldy

{Editor Note: Rafa wouldn't come in that role I don't think.}

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09 Jan 2011 00:24:22
Jonovic to get started tomara with Torres and were playing a 4.3.1.2 sud be interesting

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09 Jan 2011 00:22:43
People on this site need to get a grip. trying to tell us who dalglish targets are, he has said he hasnt even had time to think about targets. he got of the plane from dubai and went to the team hotel and done interview, so stop pretending you know. seriously its a bad joke the way people come on this site and pretend to be in the know. half of you arnt even from liverpool . tenner says this does not get posted
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so what if we're not from Liverpool

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09 Jan 2011 00:22:04
Liverpool Rumours
THIS IS KING KENNY'S FIRST INTERVIEW.


~Firstly, Kenny, another dramatic day at Liverpool Football Club?~


Obviously it's a great honour for me to be back in charge of a football club which means so much to so many people. When somebody gets a bit of pleasure there's always the disappointment of someone else, and it's Roy. Roy is a very honourable guy with loads of integrity and I feel really sad for him. He came in at the start of the season when Rafa left, he tried his best but it just didn't happen for him and the disappointing thing for me is that this opportunity has come along and he has lost out. If you ask any manager if they want to manage Liverpool Football Club there's no way in the world they're going to say no, so he came in and unfortunately for himself and everyone else it didn't work out as we all hoped and I don't think there's anybody who supports the football club who will get any pleasure out of seeing it not work.


~How does it feel to once again be the manager of Liverpool Football Club?~


I'm a very lucky person. That's twice I've been very fortunate. I came here as a 15-year-old boy when Shanks asked me to sign and I was a wee bit homesick thinking I was too young to leave home. Then I got back as a player and left the club in February 1991. I'm fortunate to come back, even if it's only to the end of the season it makes no difference to me, this place is very special and all we can do is try our best to move the club forward a bit and try to win some more games.


~What was your immediate reaction when you were asked to step in and help the club out?~


Marina and I were away for a break, but I said at the start of the season that if they wanted me to help in any way, shape or form then I would do. My situation never changed. I was there to be of help to the football club and if John and Tom and Ian Ayre and Damien were happy to offer me the position then there was no way I could be disrespectful and not take it. I've been a very lucky boy to be asked to do this. All I would say is I'm going to do the best I possibly can to try and help the club, but everybody has to pull in the same direction. There's no point not being a unified unit. If we pull in different directions we won't get anywhere. I'm really looking forward to it and it'll be a real pleasure for me to be in that dressing room again and on the bench.


~What's the reaction been like so far from your family, friends, ex-players and fans you've seen?~


I was on the plane to come back from Dubai and it went out to take off and the news hadn't broken. Then it came back in to repair something and everybody's phone was going and people were coming up to me to say 'Congratulations, all the best'. My family have been brought up here and know what the football club stands for and what it means to a lot of people, so they're delighted. The excitement has to calm down a wee bit, we have to make sure we turn the excitement into some positivity for everybody and make sure we win games. That's the most important thing we have to do and the best way for us to do it is to support each other and we're very good at that. As someone once said, the closer we are and the harder we work then the luckier we'll get. So we'll work hard to get the luck we need.


~You've spoken in the past about your desire to manage the club again, how confident are you that you can turn Liverpool's fortunes around this season?


I always said I'd help but I also made it perfectly clear I wasn't going to stand on anyone's toes to help. I was happy to help in any way I could, the football club and Roy. I think people know what they're getting and what's in the package with Kenny Dalglish, they know they'll get honesty and a great deal of commitment. I'll take my chances and hopefully we'll get more positive results than negative ones.


~It has been a disappointing campaign so far but why do you think the results haven't been what we'd like and will a big part of your job now be trying to lift the confidence of the players?~


Some people may find it strange that you're talking about some great players - Steven, Fernando, Glen Johnson, Martin Skrtel, Daniel Agger, Raul Meireles - and you mention confidence. It doesn't matter how good you are, if you're not confident in what you're doing and not believing that it's going to turn for you then you're not going to play as well. You can point them in the right direction and tell them how good they are, but they've got to believe in it. Our lads will admit themselves that they've not achieved this season and not maintained the standards that they're very capable of reaching. I might be fortunate and I might come in and get the luck that Roy missed out on. I'm sure Roy will be sitting and watching and hoping that we do well, because when you read the statement he made when he left the club then that tells you how dignified the man is.


~On Sunday you'll walk out at Old Trafford to the sight and sound of 9,000 Liverpool fans singing your name - how do you think you'll feel when you make that walk along the touchline?~


I'll feel very humble and probably a bit emotional. They know that they're equally as important as what we are, not just for Sunday's game but for every game. We might lose a game - not necessarily on Sunday - or we might not play too well and that's when we'll need their support. We also as a squad of players and as a management have to give them something to cheer about as well. I'm sure our people will respond if we go out there and they see that our lads are proud to play and that they'll do their best for Liverpool Football Club. We'll do our best to get the results that they all want, we won't always be successful, and to be perfectly realistic I think we have to say 'Let's just start walking before we run'. Let's not go crazy here and think the season changes and we're going to sweep everything aside now and go undefeated from now to the end of the season. We're perfectly capable of doing it but let's be realistic, let's just go out there and try our best and take things one game at a time.


~Manchester United away in your first game back - exciting or daunting?~


It's the same for both clubs I think. I'm sure Fergie would have picked an easier game if he could have picked one. Old Trafford is a fantastic stage to go and play your football, it's an FA Cup tie and the FA Cup has been devalued of late with people fielding weakened teams. United lost to Leeds last year after putting out a weakened side and I can't see him doing that tomorrow. All we've got to do is concern ourselves with us. Sammy, Mike, Damien and Roy up to today have been getting the boys ready for the game so they'll be the ones who are bigger players than me, but I'll be there beside them on the bench and we'll all be singing from the same hymn-sheet.


~And have you thought about what you'll say to the players in your first team talk?~


Yes, but it's changed 25 times on the flight home, so I'm sure it'll change again before the morning.


~Do you think you'll feel nervous before kick off?~


I felt nervous last night after I got the phone call, and I don't think there's anything wrong with feeling that anticipation. I also feel a great sense of pride to try and help everybody get what they want, which is results.


~You'll be renewing past rivalries with Alex Ferguson as well, of course. . ~


Yes, I don't have a problem with that. You have to respect what Alex has done in the game and you don't do it through gritted teeth. It's a fantastic achievement what he's done, his track record is fantastic, we respect him as a person and a football manager. It's all well and good people disliking him or disliking Manchester United, but it doesn't mean you don't respect what other people have done in football.


~Away from matters on the pitch, will you be having conversations with Damien Comolli and the owners with a view to bringing in new players during this transfer window?~


I'm just in the door. I'm sure there will be conversations but honestly, I have had minimal conversations about what's happening. I need to sit down and be told. I've got straight off the plane to do this interview and to try and get a message to the supporters and hope that I can repay the trust that John, Tom and the other footballing people, Ian and Damien, have put in me.


~How excited are you by the challenge which lies ahead this season?~


I'm really looking forward to it. You get nervous with anticipation but I'm looking forward to it. The games come up thick and fast, Sunday and then Wednesday at Blackpool and then the derby next Sunday. We've got to get on with it. It's really exciting and something I'm looking forward to. There's no fear, just a nervous anticipation about what's going to happen.


~What is your target for the rest of this season?~


To get as many wins as we can muster and then take it from there.


~And finally, what's your message to Liverpool supporters as we all look forward to your second term as manager?~


I'd just say if there's excitement among the supporters then I can share in that excitement. I think we've got to be realistic and a little bit patient. It's not going to turn overnight. I know there are lots of times when a manager leaves a football club and a new guy comes in and gives everyone a lift, well if the players get a bit of a lift then it has to last for more than one game. We've got to get it right between now and the end of the season and as I said earlier, there might be some disappointments but the biggest disappointment for me is if everyone who is involved in this football club doesn't give everything they have to give. If we do that then we have a good chance of finishing the season well.


~I'm sure everybody is right behind you Kenny and we all wish you the best of luck. .~


It's a great pleasure to be back. We're working for people we know we can trust and working for people who only want the best for us as well. Let's just hope we can take this journey over the next five or six months together and have a successful time.GOOD LUCK KK.

Red Wizard

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09 Jan 2011 00:20:52
If you had the slightest understanding of how the search for new talent works you would know that Comolli is there to sift through the players put forward by the scouting staff in accordance with the player specifications laid out by the manager. The manager then has the last say on which players fit his style of play and vision for the team.

Dave Mc


And if you looked at the EPL and the successfull teams and the past successes which we have had, there has never been a figure like Comolli at any of those clubs - if you employ a manager then you employ a vision that manager has, not one which is subject to the vision and ideas of someone else and the way they want to set a team up and the way they want to play, . I thought Steve Mcmahon was a great player for us, Joey Barton is a player similar in style to McMahon ( just ask their John! ) would you have Barton over McMahon or vice versa - perhaps you can see that it is the idea of the individual we are employing as a manager not someone who would give us a generalisation of what we want in the player s that are signed

scousepower

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09 Jan 2011 00:18:05
Liverpool Rumours
With me only been 19 I havnt enjoyed much success but the way the older fans Talk of King Kenny I'm reali excited ha

And ed do u reckon he'll give alot of the players like jonoavic and pacheco as well as testing players in other positions

Darzokid YNWA

{Editor Note: I'm sure Kenny will play the players who fit into his system and who deserve a chance to play.}

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09 Jan 2011 00:16:22
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Just ready dalglish interview he said, "Let's not go crazy here and think the season changes and we're going to sweep everything aside now and go undefeated from now to the end of the season. >>We're perfectly capable of doing it

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09 Jan 2011 00:15:25
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PACHECO should start tomorrow!

REINA

JOHNSON AGGER SKRTEL AURELIO

KUYT MEIRELES GERRARD COLE

TORRES PACHECO

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09 Jan 2011 00:15:03
Liverpool Rumours
Teams for tomorrow:

Reina
Johnson- Skrtel- Agger- Aurelio
Meireles- Cole
Kuyt- Gerrard- Rodriguez
Torres

Van der Sar
Neville- Vidic- Ferdinand- Evra
Nani- Scholes- Carrick- Fletcher
Rooney- Owen/ Berbatov

Full strength united side could cause an upset especially if Owen starts. Dalglish come back a few hours ago and has not even trained with the team nor spoke to them, so i think liverpool can only get a result by players giving 100%.

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09 Jan 2011 00:14:43
How about if roy were to take over at westham. he could have c.cole then. lol
ha ha ha

harry5:)

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09 Jan 2011 00:13:58
Liverpool Rumours
With kenny now in, a new sense of belief about the place, the season going the way its going, the possibility of a few signings, are we out of the race for the title? with the way its going, anythings possible, bit out of reach yes, but top 4, top 3 certainly?
believable = yes
non believable = no

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09 Jan 2011 00:12:16
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This Messiah. .sorry Macca, is getting alot of praise! (of which I also applaud as he has calmed a few of our supporters down!)

. . BUT. . .

Why is he avoiding the Suarez questions being put forward to him?. . . No news? fake Macca? got lucky with manager predictions?. . . Who knows, only Macca knows. .

Macca? . care to assist?

GIANTkiller

{Editor Note: I think it may have infact been the fake Macca who posted stuff about Suarez, I'm not so sure. But what I'm sure of is that he said Hodgson would be gone before the Man Utd game and he got slaughtered for it. Many, many people have egg on their face.}

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09 Jan 2011 00:11:24
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Sacking Roy was not the answer we have to many average players and until this changes we will never challenge for the top four again.Times have changed yet the club has not, we can no longer attract top players or managers. Apart from Reina, Gerrard & Torres non of our others players would get into Chelsea, Arsenal, Manure, Man City or Spurs teams.
And that says it all for me.
John W Henry needs to put his money where his mouth is. It will take us years to challenge for a place in the top four, never mind win the league.
It hurts me to say but. . i think Torres will leave in the summer and who can blame him, he doesn't even look like he wants to play for us any more.
Some people on this site are so unrealistic, what do you think ed?

Paddy1981 YNWA

{Editor Note: Sacking Hodgson not the answer? So were you happy with negative tactics and long-ball football? Were you happy with the players having no faith in Hodgson? I know I certainly wasn't. Our team isn't the greatest, but anyone can see that our team isn't so bad that we should be sitting close to the relegation zone. If Hodgson had played the right way maybe we would be doing better. But we can still attract top players and a top manager because we are a top club.}

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09 Jan 2011 00:01:21
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People on this site need to get a grip. trying to tell us who dalglish targets are, he has said he hasnt even had time to think about targets. he got of the plane from dubai and went to the team hotel and done interview, so stop pretending you know. seriously its a bad joke the way people come on this site and pretend to be in the know. half of you arnt even from liverpool . tenner says this does not get posted

{Editor Note: Why wouldn't it get posted? }

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09 Jan 2011 00:00:38
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I personally believe KK is going to be a huge success and will remain as manager for as long as he wants it. KK to bring the Premiership back home where it belongs. Wasn't it a scotsman (Shankley that rebuilt LFC last time) Now it's KK turn to follow in the footsteps of the great shanks and rebuild LFC properly. "Footballs a simple game complicated by fools"

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08 Jan 2011 23:56:38
What a horrible ugly spitting prick el had diouf is, a parasite to humanity, you had a player with a double leg fracture and he is stood over him telling to get up and stop pretending, and to think he use to be one of ours, where did we go wrong with the p@@@@k

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08 Jan 2011 23:55:52
Liverpool Rumours
Hey ed wat time is kick off tomorrow

{Editor Note: Kick-off is at 1.30pm.}

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08 Jan 2011 23:55:44
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God Bless Kenny Dalglish time to finish what you started , also Roy Hodgson no sympathy for him had no respect for the greatest supporters in the universe we welcomed you and you treated us like gonks , oh an by the way Paco is in Hoylake his kids are at school he told me he was out of work an living here , I don't care if people believe or not , He was with Guillem Ballague in the Carriage works before Christmas , great site ed you have the patience of a Saint to put up with some if the plantpots on here God bless ya loads

{Editor Note: Kind words. Cheers mate.}

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08 Jan 2011 23:52:41
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I for one would not want to see owen coyle become the next manager. Sure hes done well with bolton but he hasnt had alot of experience with top teams with high expectations. Remember RH was mansger of the year last year and he was dirt

{Editor Note: The difference is that Hodgson's tactics are defensive, negative and he plays awful long-balls all the time. Coyle plays the right way, nice passing football and he attacks. Coyle is modern, and sets his teams up to attack and win. That's the type of football we want to see. And lets not forget how much the players like Coyle.}

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08 Jan 2011 23:45:08
Pako is living in Hoylake and s currently not working.
He was approached by West Ham in the summer to manage them but declined.

Macca

====

Hey Macca. .I bet any of those people living in those houses claim to be from West Kirby. .it's yards to the borderline! !

I live in West Kirby but I'm yards from Caldy. .

lol. .

Frenchy.

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08 Jan 2011 23:44:35
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Good luck to kk and the boys tomorrow, winning against manure in the theatre of cheats would be special! I av been told by a scout that we will sign 3 players in Jan, one being a huge signing and the other 2 being very good players, no names but this time next wk they will wear the famous shirt! fingers crossed and let the good times roll! p.s. I hope they can understand what Kenny is saying? lol and thanks for trying Roy, a good man and im gutted for him cus he is like a uncle we all have, just too big a job!

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08 Jan 2011 23:40:31
Liverpool Rumours
To all the loyal fans who have been through the mill over the last year or so, now is the time for reflection, now is the time for a reality check. King Kev was right when he said that the Liverpool team has been in decline for quite some time. Cup competitions have papered over the cracks for far to long. The holy grail of the league title, whatever it is called, is what this club is renowned for. We really can't compete with a crowd of 40 odd thou every week, we can't compete when we spend 10 mill on a player and that is the big spend of the season( and he can't be a duffer) unlike manure who can waste 20 mill on any s american misfit and just right it off. So to all you people who think that by adding 2 or 3 up and coming players is the last piece of the jigsaw need to get real. King Kenny will know this, and he will know that he is not going to get 200 million to spend, so the long haul is what we are in for. But don't despair, all empires come to an end , whether it be military, financial or sporting. Ours did and so to will Manures when red nose retires, dies or gets assassinated( believe me, they are worried about the end of Ferguson) Hopefully the start of a new empire starts tomorrow. The Greatest player to have graced the hallowed turf of Anfield deserves the greatest voice in football to sing him and his team back to the top, SO SING YOUR HEARTS OUT FOR THE REDS, Lets have twelve men on the pitch and have a big proud heart in your chest.

Through the wind and the rain. Never forget.

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