Liverpool Banter Archive March 09 2011

 

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09 Mar 2011 23:45:55
Pete-H {Ed001's Note - because his ambition is to be Spain's number one keeper, it wouldn't matter how well he played the number one for Spain will always play in Spain.}

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I think you're you're right Ed unfortunately, spain have good keepers playing in Spain but reina is probably the best they have but is always going to be overlooked whilst not playing in Spain. However what is confusing is that in pepe's last interview he said that he dosent really see his future back in Spain as the only teams he would really want to play for already have there first choice keepers. Unless something has changed recently I.e barca have decided to get rid of valdes etc. I beleive this a reason for the recent link with every premier league team in the champions league.

Bob loblaw

Ps hope he stays he's the best keeper in the world at the moment.

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 23:38:18
I dow no wat u are all on talking about gerrard leaving in the summer he still got 3 decent years in him and kenny defo taking charge summer and gerrard not stupid he knows under kenny we diffrent team and he knows we got money cum summer too buy better squad players soo why wud he wanna leave wen he cud finish career winning trophies with a team he loves does not make sence now if he left yes if woy was in charge still but is it me but dow gerrard look up too the king

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 23:39:50
Hi ed001! You said in
a post earlier that sanchez was 1 of 2 signings you wouldve liked to happen last january, if you don't mind ed, who was the other one? Banega maybe? Just curious ed! {Ed001's Note - Honda was the other one, I was desperate for us to get Honda and Sanchez.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 23:27:59
"Yo so ed, i know how many times u've gone over the suarez europa league thing! But hes included in the squad for braga? Any knowledge on the situation? Cheers"

if u look on the liverpool website, where it says the squad that went to braga, it says that some people that can't play (e.g. suarez cos he's ineligible, kelly cos he's injured) travelled with the squad! just check the website!

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 23:18:10
Hey Ed,

Just saw on the Europa team lists that Gerardo is listed as a forward. 20 year old Spanish striker, know nothing about him, do you have any info on him? Could he be a potential for us in the future or were they just looking to fill up the team sheet?

RMD {Ed001's Note - it is Gerardo Bruna, plays on the wing or up front for the stiffs. He was listed as Argentinian until recently which confused a lot of people (including me!).}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 23:13:15
Jason {Ed001's Note - I understand what you are saying, but he has brought me nothing I didn't get bigger and better from the likes of Souness and Dalglish and they all had to leave eventually too. I would just rather he left before it is clear he is gone, rather than hung around too long and made it plain he is not what he was.}

I suppose I'd rather he left on a high but fear the same as you Ed- wud hate to see him struggling for fitness and form for the next few seasons as we rebuild- ideally he cud lift the perm next year then move on/ retire but wishful thinking I'm afraid!
Jason (good debate Ed- ya certainly hold ur own! ) {Ed001's Note - that is the problem, we might just win the Prem, but I wouldn't want to put money on it right now. That would be the perfect scenario for everyone.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 23:13:47
Ed u said gerrard didn't play in the 4-1 win at utd, but he played a big part, won and scored the pen, won the free kick aurelio scored. ! {Ed001's Note - yes mate, already realised I was thinking about Alonso and it has been posted, my mistake.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 23:09:32
Just let me make some more KOP music
Any old way you choose it
It's got the Kings stamp, you can't KOP it,
Any old time you use it
' Gotta be the KENNY way
If you wanna win with him
If you wanna win like him



Aint got no song for a TARTS

who can't play the KENNY way

I lose the beauty of the game

Without the DALGLISH touch in it



That's why go for that pass and move game
Any old way you choose it
It's got a LFC red &, you can't KOP it,
Any new time you use it
It's gotta be the KENNY way
If you wanna win with him
If you wanna win like him



He took his loved one across the hurdles
Suh-he can lend any man a soothing hand
I must admit he had a rockin' band
Man, they were blowin' like a hurricane



That's why go for that pass and move game
Any old way you choose it
It's got a LFC red &, you can't KOP it,
Any new time you use it
It's gotta be the KENNY way
If you wanna win with him
If you wanna win like him



Way down South they had a old whiskey
Them Cokney C*N*S they had a jamboree
They're drinkin' brew from a fake european cup
The folks a-dancin' there got all shook up

And tried playin' that LFC 80s way
Any old way you choose it
Aint got a LFC red so you can't KOP it,
Any new time you use it
It's gotta be the KENNY way
If you wanna win with him
If you wanna win like him


PS - - It is adapted to the tune of BEATLES ROCK n' ROLL music song. simple changes in word to fit THE KENNY WAY

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 22:55:48
Jason {Ed001's Note - no, I expect him to do what Carra does and sign without question any contract offer after telling the club to pay him what they think he is worth. I expect him not to agree deals with Chelsea behind the club's back, then demand a huge pay rise to stay. I expect him to act professionally and not to assault djs who don't play a song just because he tells them to. I don't think it is much to ask of a player myself.}

Fair enuf ed he's no angel and like us all has made mistakes. The Chelsea saga being his obvious biggest but at the end of the day he stayed and we all loved him for it- to demand a huge pay rise to stay was fair at the time- he was amongst the best in the world back then. I think his rare off field mistakes have been completely compensated for on the pitch. I think it's fine that u feel it may be time to look to the future for the sake of the club but I feel he deserves to be recognised for his unparalleled excellence and contribution over the last 10 years. Sorry to argue Ed but the guy has giving me some of the happiest times of my life!lol
Jason {Ed001's Note - I understand what you are saying, but he has brought me nothing I didn't get bigger and better from the likes of Souness and Dalglish and they all had to leave eventually too. I would just rather he left before it is clear he is gone, rather than hung around too long and made it plain he is not what he was.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 22:42:29
Fully agree with the ed here Coady is twice the player of Spearing, fair play to the lad he give 120% when he gets a run out but he isn't good enough for us in a period when we are moving forward. Coady, Shelvey & Lucas to be the back up for M'vila, Miereles & Gerrard next season.

BBB

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I'd like to know what fault you can find with him, pray tell me, do enlighten me.
His distribution is good, his tackling is good. He is a local boy, what we need, some scouse blood for the future. {Ed001's Note - he is very slow though, Coady is already a better player at a much younger age.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 22:45:01
Re UCCM
Actualy torres scored the equalizer and gerrard scored the penalty that put us 2-1 up. Trust me ive watched the highlights 100s of times, literally. Just thought id clear that up.
Red bl00ded!

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 22:38:19
Wijnaldum would be a cheap and very good winger for Liverpool. Redlips

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 22:39:26
Hi ed, just a few quick points from previous comments about gerrard not being mr lpool and his legs going. I was just wondering why you think this? I do not know him but anyone who saw him at the recent euro match when he was ceebrating in the stands must have seen his genuine joy at us going ahead. Also why do people think he will go now when things are looking so positive when he could have gone before. Another point was about his legs going. I think he will play on for years in a slightly deeper role. His passing is so good he can still have a big influence on games as alonso did. Just a few thoughts don't know if anyone else agrees {Ed001's Note - he can not play a defensive game, he has no defensive awareness, hence the last ditch tackles when he has suddenly realised the player he should have been tracking has got in behind him while he was ball watching. Otherwise I would say the same, though he could work on it in training and improve it, he does seem able to take in what he is coached.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 22:34:24
Didii hamman won us the champoins league final.

aintree dave
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Oh, was that Didi who made a miraculous double save from shevcenko and two penalty saves in the shhotout? For some reason I thought it was Dudek.

Well done Didi.

LIVERPRES

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 22:29:34
where is martin hansen down the pecking order?
i remember he was on the bench a few times this season, but seems to have dropped below gulacsi
the lad just seems to have something about him

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 22:29:56
I can't agree with you.
I think Spearing shows great promise, bearing in mind he had back injuries which has obviously limited his first team opportunities, he hasn't had much pitch time.
I think he has played superbly of what I've seen and I fully support him to cement a starting XII place. Can't be worse than Poulsen, could be better than Lucas. Of course, I won't dare to compare him to Masch but give him 5 years and see what the score is.
I think he has a the potential to be a fantastic first team player.

I'd like to know what fault you can find with him, pray tell me, do enlighten me.

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You do realise that in 5 years Spearing will be 28, don't you? We don't have time to wait for a player who will only ever be average reach his peak. He'll never play regularly for Liverpool - Coady is faster, harder in the tackle, better in the pass, better leadership skills and a far better shot, even though there's a 5 year age gap between the two.
As the Ed pointed put, he's also very slow; as well as having a tendency to panic and pass into a vacuum or hoof it up the pitch.
In my opinion, he'll never surpass the level Lucas is currently at (if he even equals it, which is doubtful).

The only reason he's still at the club is because he's a local and a fan. He would have been shipped out ages ago had he been from anywhere else (I'm not saying that's a bad thing). If we're looking to get CL next season then he'll be shipped out in the summer - he's not even good enough to be a squad player for a top 4 team (in my opinion).

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 22:30:47
Has everyone forgot the Napoli game in November?

Kiss the badge YNWA

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 22:27:04
09 Mar 2011 17:41:55
Right wana start a debate here the team of 1988 or barca of the modern era just copying the lfc website i wasnt old enough to see 1988 team so how good were they ?


You may find it hard to beleive, but I actually think the 1988 team would make the current Barcelona team look like Barnsley. No seriously, it would be a close game (probably
the greatest game ever) but I think Liverpool would win 5-3!

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 22:27:05
R.E post at 20:52:55 first time poster on this site and was just wondering how Ed 001 could miss the fact that gerrard won and slapped a peno past van der sar in the 4-1 victory at old trafford? the treatment gerrard is getting is very harsh to say the least. West ham final 2006 scored 2, started the comeback in istanbul, scored the winner against olympiacos. There is not much the lad hasn't done in truth, voted best player in champs league, pfa young player of the year, player of the year, what more do you want? open your eyes people, open your eyes.

Ian the red
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couldn't agree with you more! the things Gerrard has done for this club and some people still want to get rid of him !
He has given us so many memories that IMO he will stay and give us more! if he wanted to leave he would have hinted at it but he hasn't! either its just rumours or its people that have no faith in Stevie G . if Stevie has an injury it will stop him making long runs and hence his bad performances . i bet if he had no injuries people wouldn't be pushing him out the door like this . people are saying its his age but look at the likes of scholes and giggs , even the likes of Drogba are in their 30s and are still brilliant players .
So could the posters and the ED's please stop posting negative opinions on Gerrard and get behind him! To play good you need support! Thanks . {Ed001's Note - I am sorry but I will give my opinion whether you agree or disagree is upto you, but I am not going to refrain because you don't like it.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 22:16:40
{Ed001's Note - you live in a dream world, Gerrard has won nothing single handedly, every single match consists of 11 players and our best performance, the 4-1 win over United, he didn't even play in. Alonso is a far bigger miss for us than Gerrard. As for his presence making our players play better, you just said he won everything singlehandedly, so make up your mind. Perhaps we should just play Gerrard on his own to see if you right?}

No disrespect Ed, But Steven Gerrard DID play in the 4-1 win and scored if i remember rightly (the equalizer) then Torres went past Vidic who missed a header for 2-1, Then aurelio free kick 3-1, The Dossena (I think) 4-1, Ronaldo pen put United 1-0 up. That was the first CAM KISS, We played in silver that day.

UCCM

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UCCM is defo right on this one. .stevie played that game. there was however no alonso that day. . . {Ed001's Note - my mistake, sorry.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 22:19:10
{Ed001's Note - you live in a dream world, Gerrard has won nothing single handedly, every single match consists of 11 players and our best performance, the 4-1 win over United, he didn't even play in. Alonso is a far bigger miss for us than Gerrard. As for his presence making our players play better, you just said he won everything singlehandedly, so make up your mind. Perhaps we should just play Gerrard on his own to see if you right?}

No disrespect Ed, But Steven Gerrard DID play in the 4-1 win and scored if i remember rightly (the equalizer) then Torres went past Vidic who missed a header for 2-1, Then aurelio free kick 3-1, The Dossena (I think) 4-1, Ronaldo pen put United 1-0 up. That was the first CAM KISS, We played in silver that day.
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No, Torres equalized to make it 1-1 and then Gerrard won and scored the penalty to put us 2-1 up. But we didn't have Gerrard or Torres for the previous fixture against them at anfield which we won 2-1 in which Vidic was sent off after fouling Alonso and Babel scored the winner.

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 22:09:36
Didii hamman won us the champoins league final.

aintree dave

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 21:41:21
Whoever said payet isn't good enough because of his stats needs shooting this guy will only get better and will be a major star. i watch french football all the time and he is one of thr star preformers out if that league along with milva. and i am sure one of the eds will back me up on this

LD {Ed002's Note - I concur that Payet is a very good player.}

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I never once said he isn't a good player, I said that judging on the stats of him over his career in a s**te french league, im not too sure I would like to take a chance on him.

I would much rather see us sign Turan and Young for the wide berth positions with cole, marveaux and maxi competing for places.

I have seen plenty of Payet and I agree, he does look like an intellegent player. My main doubt comes from how much would he cost us? And is there any better value for money players out there, like young, who we all know what we will get out of him. There is no risk with young.

Going back to the stats I quoted, don't get all arsy mate, I was simply puttin it out there how many goals they have been involved in throughout their careers, as it is goals our club is looking for, not just players who can do a trick or 2.

If we were to buy Payet, Young and Turan, then all the better as we can get the best out of 3 players over the course of a long season, but if I had to choose out of the 3, it would be Young and Turan all day long for me.

But that's just my opinion!

LFC Till I Die
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Personally I'm just as sceptical signing players from france as I am signing them from italy. Not exactly done well for us have they french signings? The league is so poor that I consider it to be about the level of the championship. Gourcuff is probably one of best players in the league and he couldnt string three passes together in a slow easy league like italy.

Just my two cents (which is probably all its worth haha)
Rewflo

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 21:44:44
{Ed001's Note - you live in a dream world, Gerrard has won nothing single handedly, every single match consists of 11 players and our best performance, the 4-1 win over United, he didn't even play in. Alonso is a far bigger miss for us than Gerrard. As for his presence making our players play better, you just said he won everything singlehandedly, so make up your mind. Perhaps we should just play Gerrard on his own to see if you right?}

No disrespect Ed, But Steven Gerrard DID play in the 4-1 win and scored if i remember rightly (the equalizer) then Torres went past Vidic who missed a header for 2-1, Then aurelio free kick 3-1, The Dossena (I think) 4-1, Ronaldo pen put United 1-0 up. That was the first CAM KISS, We played in silver that day.

UCCM

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 21:45:59
I don't know why everybody is going on about the left back spot, glen johnson has played superbly there and there are quite a few right footed left backs about, in my opinion that shud be his new position although he does semm like he could be quite versatlie
huddz red

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 21:46:48
R.E post at 20:52:55 first time poster on this site and was just wondering how Ed 001 could miss the fact that gerrard won and slapped a peno past van der sar in the 4-1 victory at old trafford? the treatment gerrard is getting is very harsh to say the least. West ham final 2006 scored 2, started the comeback in istanbul, scored the winner against olympiacos. There is not much the lad hasn't done in truth, voted best player in champs league, pfa young player of the year, player of the year, what more do you want? open your eyes people, open your eyes.

Ian the red

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 21:51:17
Ed can suarez play for us if ajax gt knocked out the europe cup?and has elia agreed a contract for the summer?

{Ed002's Note - No Suarez cannot play in the Europa Cup this season regardless of what happens to Ajax. Elia has not, to my knowledge, agreed a contract.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 21:31:50
09 Mar 2011 21:21:27

Hey ed just watching the tottenham vs ac milan game, and what do you think about the 18 year old german kid merkel? {Ed001's Note - hard to say, Spurs have just stood back and defended deep allowing Milan to play, anyone could look good. Though I have to admit I am not taking too much notice as the game is boring me to tears, this is a Milan side there for the taking and Spurs have done exactly what they moan about other teams doing. So much for 'Onest 'Arry and his attacking footie.}
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Arry speaks out of his wrinkly arse.

LAVERS

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 21:31:51
{Ed001's Note - you live in a dream world, Gerrard has won nothing single handedly, every single match consists of 11 players and our best performance, the 4-1 win over United, he didn't even play in. Alonso is a far bigger miss for us than Gerrard. As for his presence making our players play better, you just said he won everything singlehandedly, so make up your mind. Perhaps we should just play Gerrard on his own to see if you right?}
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I guess gerrard mustve scored all 3 goals in champs league final and then sprinted back and performed a double save to deny Shevchenko aswell, and then banged in all our penalties too. .no that's because he is not a one man team. As the Ed points out also when gerrard was out we still beat chelsea and man utd as long as Alonso played. .however when it was reversed and we were without Alonso. .we didn't fare so well.
You could say that Gerrards form maybe dipped when Alonso left. .as did Mascherano also. Alonso was THE key player for us and losing him was a disaster. Gerrard was important but we seem to do fine without him now that meireles has adapted to premier league.
Rewflo

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 21:31:55
09 Mar 2011 20:00:18

09 Mar 2011 18:01:11
How the dickens does Poulsen get a game infront of Spearing?

Early indications show Poulsens getting the nod over Jay against Braga. Jay is twice the player Poulsen is already! Poulsen can't pass to any player more than 2 metres away. Jay is an absolute warrior! He might not be much in stature, but he don't have anchor that midfield well.

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Spearing is a terrible player. Personally, I'd rather we play with 10 men than play either of these players - they're both as bad as each other and neither can pass for their lives.
I think Coady should be 2nd choice DM ahead of both of those clowns.

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I can't agree with you.
I think Spearing shows great promise, bearing in mind he had back injuries which has obviously limited his first team opportunities, he hasn't had much pitch time.
I think he has played superbly of what I've seen and I fully support him to cement a starting XII place. Can't be worse than Poulsen, could be better than Lucas. Of course, I won't dare to compare him to Masch but give him 5 years and see what the score is.
I think he has a the potential to be a fantastic first team player.

I'd like to know what fault you can find with him, pray tell me, do enlighten me.
His distribution is good, his tackling is good. He is a local boy, what we need, some scouse blood for the future. {Ed001's Note - he is very slow though, Coady is already a better player at a much younger age.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 21:32:28
Come on ed and fellow reds- why all this animosity to stevie! The guy has been a hero for us and can still contribute a lot. For u to say he hasn't been as influential in our trophies as alonso is outrageous. Do u remember olympiakos, Milan (goal and won the penalty, and played his heart out)? Do u remember a game against west ham in fa cup final? Awesome ball to cisse for 1 goal then a wonder strike in the final seconds! I for will always remember these times and countless others where he has been immense. To question his attitude to our clud I think is an insult to us all! And to imply he has bled the club dry with his wage demands, etc. Well he deserves every penny- we are a big club- he's a big player and like all big players at big clubs he is on big wages! Y shud he get less than fat Frank, Rooney, Terry or Ferdinand? U prob expect him to play for free?!

Jason {Ed001's Note - no, I expect him to do what Carra does and sign without question any contract offer after telling the club to pay him what they think he is worth. I expect him not to agree deals with Chelsea behind the club's back, then demand a huge pay rise to stay. I expect him to act professionally and not to assault djs who don't play a song just because he tells them to. I don't think it is much to ask of a player myself.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 21:21:27
Hey ed just watching the tottenham vs ac milan game, and what do you think about the 18 year old german kid merkel? {Ed001's Note - hard to say, Spurs have just stood back and defended deep allowing Milan to play, anyone could look good. Though I have to admit I am not taking too much notice as the game is boring me to tears, this is a Milan side there for the taking and Spurs have done exactly what they moan about other teams doing. So much for 'Onest 'Arry and his attacking footie.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 21:08:14
Subs.

Gerrard
Carra
Joe Lewis
Coady
Sterling
Wilson
G.Johnson
Kuyt
Adam
Pacheco
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Im sorry but theres no chance that Gerrard and Johnson will stich around just to be subs and Adam will not move from Blackpools crown jewell to Liverpools waterboy -Mc

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 20:55:52
Over the last few weeks or so I've had to laugh at some of the garbage certain editors have been saying about gerrard.ie: gerrard is finished, gerrard should be on the bench, gerrard isn't the man you think he is, gerrard isn't in dalglishs league as a player etc etc.there has been more but I don't feel like wasting my time writing it.anyway I've been wondering what had brought this all on?how long had they thought this for?did this start 7 years ago when he was more or less single handedly winning every trophy we have won to date?or is this something they have come up with on his recent form?they seem to know so much yet they don't know that gerrard hasn't been 100% since around this time last season.people also talk of his form over recent months where he hasn't even been played in his rightful position.without gerrard we are toothless if he is fit or not so just be greatful of what you get out of a man who's club wouldn't have won anything in 7 years without him.we wouldn't be in the europa league without him this season.torres wouldn't be classed as the worlds best striker without gerrard feeding him every pass for 2 seasons either.you all seem to have a short memory.also as regards to being in dalglishs class of player, gerrard would of walked into ANY liverpool team of the 70s or 80s.stick to your calls for him to be benched and see how the team plays then tell me he's finished.his presence alone makes our players play better because they know there playing alongside a legend and liverpools greatest player of the last 20 years {Ed001's Note - you live in a dream world, Gerrard has won nothing single handedly, every single match consists of 11 players and our best performance, the 4-1 win over United, he didn't even play in. Alonso is a far bigger miss for us than Gerrard. As for his presence making our players play better, you just said he won everything singlehandedly, so make up your mind. Perhaps we should just play Gerrard on his own to see if you right?}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 20:36:54
09 Mar 2011 19:36:37
I must say Gerrard played reasonably well against united if he was truly injured before the game. He honestly didn't look injured, just off but I really hope it was because of the injury.
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He has had a re-occurinng grion strain on and off over the past couple of years. It will always re-occur now and again but he can manage it and reduce the chance of it getting worse by not playing 2 games in a week. You can play on a groin strain but you risk the strain becoming worse and the chance of a tear. It restricts your movement on the pitch and you wouldn't want to over stretch it hence the subdued performance from Gerrard vs Utd. Hopefully he hasn't teared it but it is clear Stevie has not been properly match fit for a while but hopefully his groin repairs over the next week sufficiently for him to play 30 minutes against Braga at home and then he should start against Sunderland.

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 20:24:33
Spurs have it easy tonight compared to what we faced. .

2011
. . . . . . . . .Abbiati. . . . . . . . .

Abate. . Silva. . Nesta. . Jankulovski

. .Boateng. . .Flamini. . .Seedorf

. . Robinho. .Imbrahimovic. .Pato


2005
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Cafu. . . .Stam. . . Nesta. . .Maldini

. . . . . . . . . . Pirlo. . . . . . . . . . .
. . . .Gattuso. . . . . .Seedorf. . .
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. . . Shevchenko. . . Crespo. . . . .

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 20:00:18

09 Mar 2011 18:01:11
How the dickens does Poulsen get a game infront of Spearing?

Early indications show Poulsens getting the nod over Jay against Braga. Jay is twice the player Poulsen is already! Poulsen can't pass to any player more than 2 metres away. Jay is an absolute warrior! He might not be much in stature, but he don't have anchor that midfield well.

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Spearing is a terrible player. Personally, I'd rather we play with 10 men than play either of these players - they're both as bad as each other and neither can pass for their lives.
I think Coady should be 2nd choice DM ahead of both of those clowns.

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 19:54:23
KENNY DALGLISH VOWS TO PUSH LIVERPOOL CLOSER TO MANCHESTER UNITED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE : WE'LL DO A LOT OF WORK IN THE TRANSFER MARKET

New signings and training ground sweat will help close gap


Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish wants to resurrect the club's glory days as quickly as possible and surge ahead of Manchester United - and he wants to do so by bringing in new players to augment his squad.

The Reds last won a league title during the Scot's first stint as boss two decades ago, while their rivals have won the domestic championship on 11 occasions since.

With the two North-West giants now locked on 18 top-flight league triumphs each, the former Celtic boss admits that United have pulled away in recent years. And he wants to improve Liverpool to ensure they can challenge for top honours once again.

"We know where we want to go as a club and we do not want to be one that's going to be sixth or seventh or eighth in the league, " Dalglish said.

"There are five positions between us and United in the league at the moment, it is a gulf. There is a lot of work to be done to get where we need to be.

"But we will do a lot of work on the training pitch and transfer market to get there as quickly as we can.

"We have to push closer. The underbelly of the club is looking as good as it has since I can remember, with the development of the academy. That is going to serve us well for years to come."

Dalglish also sees the gap in quality between the two sides as relatively small in the context of how competitive the Premier League has become in recent years.

He added: "You can't say the gap between first and sixth is huge when the one between first and 20th is narrowing".
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ED this has to be proof we are going to spend big in the summer doesn't it? also if Kenny is planning this surely he should be manager for years to come? Your comments would be much appreciated ED .
Cheers ! {Ed001's Note - it is not a proof of big spending, but it is tantamount to admitting that Kenny is staying.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 19:56:50
Hey ED look what a sad Manchester United fan said about Liverpool just before we crushed them 3-1 !

"Dalglish you talk too much about United. First it was about Fergie comments about that cheat refree and now you want to push Liverpool to be like United but not any other team? Sorri it won't happend. Am sure you jealous of United Success."

Your thoughts about this ED ? {Ed001's Note - I don't see anything interesting in the comment at all, just typical fans talking about other clubs.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 19:36:37
I must say Gerrard played reasonably well against united if he was truly injured before the game. He honestly didn't look injured, just off but I really hope it was because of the injury.

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 19:35:04
Can the people stating Gerrard isn't worth his wages realise he's had a number of injuries this season (let's not forget the biggest one came from the England Game); I'm sure he would agree he's not playing as well as he can but by the same token him playing with an injury is better than Poulsen in the starting line up.

I can't see him saying he'll do his all to get Daglish the job full time only to leave in the summer. I'm sure he will be back to his best next season.

One of the troubles we've had as a team is when a number of players playing sub standard in a game the other players do; Gerrard has been the exception to this in a number of seasons (I can also see Suarez being like this - grab the game by the scruff of the neck and making something happen to inspire his team mates).

In the summer we want to be replacing players who are struggling to get in the team with players that are going to challenge the 1st team players; I can easily see Konchesky, Poulsen, Darby, Jovanivic (although you got to feel sorry for him as he's not had the chance in his preferred position), Cole (maybe - high earner to be sitting on the bench week in week out and at the moment isn't going to be 1st choice) and Aquilani (I know its obvious) and replacing them with the players that others have suggested. I can also see Pacheco going (back to spain) however I do think he will do well there.

We should replace the worst players with players that are going to be selected week in week out to create competition. If we get those 6 players then not only do we have a stronger first team but also squad.

If the profits etc. mean we have £40m to spend and about £20 in sales (£60m totasl)then that would be great but we're trying to 2nd guess NESV at the moment and not many people know what they are likely to do.

Hoola

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 19:01:24
I would like to see our team look something like this next season. .

Gk - Sergio Asenjo(first option)/ David de Gea, 2nd GK Peter Gulacsi, 3rd GK Dean Bouzanis
RB - Kelly, Johnson, Irwin
CB - Ayala, Musacchio, Carra
CB - Agger, Wilson
LB - Insua, Aurelio, Mavinga, (SHORT TERM)
RW- Arda Turan, Payet
CM - Lucas, M'vila, Spearing
AM - Meireles, Javi Martinez/ Ever Banega, Shelvy
LW - Marveaux, Honda/ Jeffren, Suso
FWD/ SS - Suarez, Kuyt, Pacheco
CF - Carroll, N'gog, Nikola Saric

A squad of 32 players with depth and would be allowed as 7 of those would be under 21 witch means the submitted squad would be 25 players, with 8 homegrown players (iInsua, Peter Gulacsi, Carra, Kelly, Johnson, Irwin, Ayala, spearing to make the magic number 8).

players in:
1. Sergio Asenjo or David de Gea
2. Musacchio
3. M'vila
4. Javi Martinez or Ever Banega
5. Arda Turan
6. Marveaux
7. Payet
8. Honda or Jeffren


13 player clearout!
Konchesky 1m
Gerrard 18-25m
J Cole 2-4m
Jovanovic 2-4m
Kyrgiakos 1m
Maxi 2m
Reina 18-25m
Poulsen 1.5-2.5m
Darby 1m
Skrtel 5-8m
Aquilani 5-8m
Degen 1.5m - unless free don't know his contract length at liverpool
El Zhar 1m - unless free don't know his contract length at liverpool

- making around £60-£75m
- spending around £85-£90m
- with the owners investing around 35M tops!
- getting ride of all the dead wood!
Would be amazing to see this, who else agrees? but guessing most will be upset with two out goings in Reina and Gerrard but deal with!? does the players coming in look at least realistic ed? {Ed002's Note - Certainly some of the players listed are possible.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 18:29:48
Ed what are you thoughts on Fernando Gago, and are there any truth to the rumours? {Ed002's Note - I don't know of any firm interest.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 18:21:32
Whoever said payet isn't good enough because of his stats needs shooting this guy will only get better and will be a major star. i watch french football all the time and he is one of thr star preformers out if that league along with milva. and i am sure one of the eds will back me up on this

LD {Ed002's Note - I concur that Payet is a very good player.}

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I never once said he isn't a good player, I said that judging on the stats of him over his career in a s**te french league, im not too sure I would like to take a chance on him.

I would much rather see us sign Turan and Young for the wide berth positions with cole, marveaux and maxi competing for places.

I have seen plenty of Payet and I agree, he does look like an intellegent player. My main doubt comes from how much would he cost us? And is there any better value for money players out there, like young, who we all know what we will get out of him. There is no risk with young.

Going back to the stats I quoted, don't get all arsy mate, I was simply puttin it out there how many goals they have been involved in throughout their careers, as it is goals our club is looking for, not just players who can do a trick or 2.

If we were to buy Payet, Young and Turan, then all the better as we can get the best out of 3 players over the course of a long season, but if I had to choose out of the 3, it would be Young and Turan all day long for me.

But that's just my opinion!

LFC Till I Die

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 18:23:58
Edz, what are your opinions on the potential of Martin Kelly? I note he is a powerful runner with the ball and has an effective stride pattern like bale and gerrard but actually how quick is kelly? and could he become an attacking full back in a similar mould to bale? Kelly can certainly cross the ball well, but is he also potentially technically gifted enough to run at pace to the edge of the oppositions box, cut in and shoot accurately? {Ed002's Note - He is young and we will have to wait and see. He looks mature for his age and I am sure will make an excellent attacking right back for years to come.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 18:24:50
Ed and fellow lfc fans , has any 1 applied for final tickets to europa league in dublin? the problem is i would never get tickets from lfc website but get them through uefa but the gamble is that liverpool might not get there and ive got non refundable tickets to europa league finall , i might take the gamble as i feel we have a great chance of getting there.

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 18:24:58
ED. . JUST ASKED YOU ABOUT GERRARD LEAVING IF GOES YOU SAY NOT TO REAL MADRID THEN WHERE ELSE AS I DONT SEE HIM ANYWHERE IN THE PREM. . MAYBE AC MILAN IF NOT REAL MADRID. PLUS IF NOT A SWAP DEAL HOW MUCH WOULD YOU EXPECT TO GET FOR HIM 20 MILLION I THINK. I WOULD STILL RATHER HE STAYED THOUGH HE IS AND SHOULD BE A 1 CLUB MAN EVEN IF JUST SUB AFTER SUMMER. .
REDBUDD. . P.S TURAN WOULD BE GREAT . . {Ed002's Note - If you read my response you will see I said that I don't expect him to leave. As such it is not a question I can sensibly answer. If Suarez leaves in the summer where do you think he will go?}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 18:19:58
Hi ed great job on the site

if pepe does leave do you think we would go for ben foster with birmingham needing money i think they would sell cheers

irish red

{Ed002's Note - I do not think he would be a target.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 18:16:25
Question for everyone who is going mad about gerrard leaving; i don't really have a strong view on it as of yet but, do you think steven gerrard is currently worthy of his 110k+ all his extra's currently?

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 18:01:11
How the dickens does Poulsen get a game infront of Spearing?

Early indications show Poulsens getting the nod over Jay against Braga. Jay is twice the player Poulsen is already! Poulsen can't pass to any player more than 2 metres away. Jay is an absolute warrior! He might not be much in stature, but he don't have anchor that midfield well.

Poulsen's just a liability, got to get rid of him in the summer. I'd rather Stevie Wonder in the starting XII than that hopeless goon. Juve must be laughing it up.

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 17:49:22
How many times we've to say this to you people? Yes, Gerrard's a great player (on paper), and yes, he's been immense for over the years. But he's offering nothing of essence to the team right now. In fact that's been the case for the past two years.

More worringly is the fact that he can't, he WON'T be arsed into improving to an acceptable. His attitude's been nothing short of disgraceful.

As the ed so very correctly pointed out, it's about jettisoning those players that are no longer adding anything to the team. Stevie's no longer bringing anything of note in the team. In fact it's more like him hindering the side.

People need to put sentimentality aside and be objective about the whole thing. We've to thing about what's best for the team and nothing but only the team.

And in light of that, I don't believe at all that Gerrard leaving would downgrade us in any way, quite the opposite in fact.
A young, hugely talented, hungry and passionate Javi Martinez, for example, would be far better than an old, fairly injury-prone, uninterested Gerrard who's more or less lost his mojo and desire.

It's pointless to suggest he be given a Scholes/ Giggs-like role.
Firstly, the above players are humble, selfless fellas who put the others first. This you cannot expect from Gerrard. Too arrogant and selfish.

But all that pales into insignificance when you consider that the bloke has more or less lost his desire. This as he's a starter, the skipper. How worse will it be if he were to now learn that he has to be a Jing Sung Park? It's not gonna work.

Best to sell him, get in a young, gifted and hungry lad.
The marriage has to end. Will do both parties a world of good.
The Torres went, in came Luis and Andy, who've revitalised the side.
We can do the same with Gerrard.
It's what the team needs.

Lastly, to Kev of/ south, who asked how many trophies Arsenal have won since Henry left.
Well, how many did we win when Torres was with us, at the peak of his career.

Ps: if Stevie does leave we'll probably sign three central mids, won't we? M'Vila, Adam (assuming they join) and his replacement?
I think additional to Marveaux, we'll need two more wingers.

Thanks
I-HATE-HODGSON

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 17:41:55
Right wana start a debate here the team of 1988 or barca of the modern era just copying the lfc website i wasnt old enough to see 1988 team so how good were they ?

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 17:44:17
Whoever said payet isn't good enough because of his stats needs shooting this guy will only get better and will be a major star. i watch french football all the time and he is one of thr star preformers out if that league along with milva. and i am sure one of the eds will back me up on this

LD {Ed002's Note - I concur that Payet is a very good player.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 17:17:23
Adriano has weight problems, discipline problems and just came back from injury. If we could curb the weight and discipline issues 100% we should pull him in till season end for a view too another 1year.

Cassano is one we should have moved for and lost out, even tho Adriano is on a rapid decline I think he would be useful for half a season & he not cup tied so another useful striker to play in the Europa League.

MGY.

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 17:01:02
SUBS
1. Brad Jones
16. Soritios Krygiakos
38. John Flanagan
44. Emmanuel Mendy
26. Jay Spearing
10. Joe Cole
12. Daniel Pacheco
24. David N'Gog

We'll do well to sneak the eighth sub in.

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 16:53:29
Sorry amigo, as soon as I posted that question to you I spotted my posts from today. Many of my most humble apologies.

Rewflo {Ed001's Note - should I book you in at specsavers anyway? Hmmm wonder if I can charge them for advertising?}
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Book me in. .something tells me I will be coming out with Penfold style Jam jar glasses ha ha

Rewflo {Ed001's Note - years of squinting over comp screens doing this site has destroyed my eyesight, I think Penfold jam jars are very in now thanks to me! =oD}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 16:45:16
I would appreciate a response please, you can e-mail me personally. Thanks
Rewflo {Ed001's Note - are you for real? You have loads of posts on the site, I think you need your eyes tested mate!}
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Sorry amigo, as soon as I posted that question to you I spotted my posts from today. Many of my most humble apologies.

Rewflo {Ed001's Note - should I book you in at specsavers anyway? Hmmm wonder if I can charge them for advertising?}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 16:42:33
Romantic attachments you say? then, I guess that's why Man U (Scholes, Giggs, Ferdinand) and Chelsea (Lampard, Drogba, Terry) are winning titles
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Why are they winning titles? with the exception of Terry who has always been rubbish. They are all performing on the pitch. Fergie is not sentimental and would not hesitate to drop any of those players (or even sell them for that matter) if they caused problems or didn't perform. .and they keep winning titles.
Steve needs to pick himself up for one final push for premiership. Ed is right about how we kept players much longer than we should in the past.

How come when lucas or poulsen play rubbish you don't all leap to their defence? Why because you know they don't have the ability of gerrard. .so really we should be more on gerrards case if he has a bad two years than those players. .because we EXPECT alot better from him.

Rewflo

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 16:41:26
Adriano released from Roma, I know he has a problem where he can't walk past the lappy clubs but would he be worth a punt til the end of the season to prove himself?

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 16:28:20
We need to buy a really bright, young winger this summer; so Eden Hazard or Sanchez

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 16:28:59
Hi eds,

I've tried posting a number of times over the last few days now and NONE of them have been uploaded. Am I being edited out of the website?
If so might I enquire why please?

I would appreciate a response please, you can e-mail me personally. Thanks
Rewflo {Ed001's Note - are you for real? You have loads of posts on the site, I think you need your eyes tested mate!}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 16:29:46
I am always on this site now, i am addicted to coming here to see the latest news.

I am so excited with the players we have signed and the names of players we have potenially been linked with such as Alexis Sanchez, Adam, Benzema.

Am much as it pains me to say it, but it would be nice if Man city would be willing to swap Joe Hart and Adam Johnson for Pepe, meaning that we would be getting two good players for one and both english. With Sanchez and Johnson on the wings with the potenial of Benzema up front with Carroll and Suarez is mouth watering. I would love us to purchase Micah Richards too from city for anthoer young english talent.

My Team for next season would be along this lines. Ed please pass your thoughts?

Hart

Kelly Richards Agger Baines

Meireles

A.Johnson Sanchez

Benzema

Carroll Suarez

Subs.

Gerrard
Carra
Joe Lewis
Coady
Sterling
Wilson
G.Johnson
Kuyt
Adam
Pacheco {Ed001's Note - I don't really see the big deal about Hart, he is a good keeper, but not great.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 16:30:41
Nevermind. i got one through.

Thanks eds

Rewflo {Ed001's Note - no worries, but you have seriously had loads posted, I have even seen responses to your posts and posted those as well.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 16:23:09
So, according to some fans, it doesn't matter if Gerrard leaves.i thought only some players are unfaithful to leave the club but here I can find so many unfaithful fans.when Gerrard was at his best, you all would praise him and all.have you all forgotten who led the fightback when we won the Champions League just to mention one.it's so disgusting to read all these stuffs being posted against him.does he deserve to be sold coz of some below average performances? i don't think so when I consider some below average players getting praises from some fans here.SHAME ON ALL THOSE WHO WANT TO SEE GERRARD SOLD AND TRYING TO FIND HIS REPLACEMENT ALREADY.YOU LOTS CAN'T BE REAL LFC FANS. {Ed001's Note - oh I suppose you think we should still have the likes of Dalglish on the pitch now then? The time to sell is when performances drop, that is the Liverpool Way, to be ruthless in removing players that are no longer up to scratch. There were ructions when Ray Kennedy left, it made the team stronger. But players like John Barnes were still playing for the club long after they were no longer good enough and it cost us. Players can't be kept due to a romantic attachment to their past achievements, it has to be about what they are capable of in the present day and the future.}

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That's just your thinking Ed001.you say the time is to sell when performances drop. .fine.even with his performances dropping, Gerrard is much better than some other players on the pitch for Lfc. if we are having our worst standings in the EPL for the past two years, that doesn't mean only Gerrard has been below standard.there are some players in Lfc that are not worthy to wear the red shirt.does that mean we have to sell all of them then?if Gerrard isn't performing according to his standards then there are other 10 players on the field besides him.if the others are giving good performances everytime, then we should win all the games.Romantic attachments you say? then, I guess that's why Man U (Scholes, Giggs, Ferdinand) and Chelsea (Lampard, Drogba, Terry) are winning titles.anyway, opinions may differ but the name of Gerrard will always be linked with Lfc.may be just like King Kenny. {Ed001's Note - any player not performing on a consistent basis needs to be sold, you are making no sense whatsoever and basing your statement on pure sentimentality. I have no idea what point you are trying to make by comparing other teams and other players to this situation, each player should be judged on his own merits, not those of Lampard and Terry. Gerrard has not performed well, worse he has not even worked harder to make up for it. He needs to improve his workrate and his performances, if he is no longer capable of playing at a high level for us then it is time to move on and we can replace him with someone who is.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 16:23:32
09 Mar 2011 15:24:27
Lads, just remember the impact that giggs and scholes has had on utd winning titles. ferguson won't have sold those players at 31 for no amount of money. why should we be any different. Stevie is a class act and will continue to be.
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Unlike Giggs and Scholes, Gerrard hasn't been the best of examples off the field, surely that's not the impact you want to make to youngsters, great player, poor role model.
If we were all to believe the rumours of past discrepancies that have followed Gerrard we wouldn't have him at the club at this moment, and there is no smoke without fire. The likes of Hyypia would be a great role model, to have him back at the club would be a bonus.

Big Bill

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 16:10:10
Gerrard to stay deffo. .he will become a superb holding midfielder as he slows down with age! Ge is a legend and we need legends at Lfc.

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 16:14:06
ED according to many things I have read (sportingo , goal , caughtoffside and many more!) Liverpool are the club that made a 35m pound bid for Alexis Sanchez! ED surely if we had Sanchez we would have the best attacking line in the league! I know it seens unlikely but we have to remember we have KK as manager and are a team on the up! So don't be surprised if we are linked with big name players that cost a lot of money because we also have very good owners that will invest in the team! Your thoughts ED ?

{Ed006's Note - He would be a class signing no doubt, as for the best attacking line in the premier league that is debatable.}
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ok ED maybe not the bedst chemistry but we would certainly have the best attacking line on paper! Do U agree ED ?

{Ed006's Note - Did you say chemistry as in Fifa Ultimate Team? lol. Anyway, like I said it is debatable, Chelsea have Drogba, Torres and Anelka, United have Nani, Rooney, Berbatov and Hernandez and City have Tevez, Silva, Dzeko and Ballotelli. We would be a much better attacking side but there are other clubs that have got great attacking players also.}
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sorry ED! I made it kinda confusing! i meant we could have the most hardworking front line and they could work wonders for us! Just imagine :
Liverpool 4-1 Manchester United Scorers : Suarez Carroll (2) Sanchez!
Surely it would help us push for Champions League or even better! your thoughts ED ? {Ed001's Note - I think it would be a great attacking threat, but we would need to provide the attacking players with a good defensive platform to spring from.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 16:21:36
On the Gerrard debate.

No fans said that he was lacking in talent (or at least not me) its his effort which has been lacking, not just this season but every season since we finished 2nd.

Now while its unfair to judge him by past standards (which he set unbelievably high for himself) that is what we must do. As fans we have to accept that sometimes if a player is feeling as though he is stagnating then he will want to leave. If Gerrard still had the same workrate as Kuyt or Lucas then this wouldn't be an issue.
Anyone saying that he is too old to play at that level and do that much work is wrong. He is capable, Kuyt is same age and runs probably 3 times as hard and long. Gary Mcallister was older than both and was absolutely amazing for us.

Playing 6 out of 10 for a player of gerrards ability for almost 2 years is not acceptable, 7 out of ten minimum. There's no room in football for sentimentality, if a player doesn't perform for liverpool (no matter who he is and what he has acheived) then he needs to pick himself up or leave. I hope he comes back to his best. .I really do, it just doesn't seem like happening. And if he does the every poster on here can personally say they told me so on here and I will eat the biggest humble pie ever.

Rewflo

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 16:01:09
Hi Ed

Don't know if anyone will agree with me, but I think that Gerrard has been a big influence at Liverpool and has certainly made his mark - BUT - I think the players around him perform better when he is not playing, its like when he is playing they all expect him to do something special and therefore hold back themselves. When he is not playing the players realise the have it to do themselves and this appears to me to give a better balance to the team.

Gerrard to stay or £20-25m in the bank for a budding young replacement?

Mmmmm, theres the thought

do u remember if gerrard was playing on sunday?
ok so now do you remember the score?
kuyt reina lucas torres now gerrard Ok no one is bigger than the club but we still need to show love and respect to someone who has given us so much, i don't think the people saying this know anything about sport, life and liverpool in general, its all fantacy football.
"you will never walk alone" really can you say that and then say we should take a good offer for our steve!
one last point just imagine one of the best midfeilders to grace this earth teaching the likes of shelvy coady suso everything he knows! yea lets just let that slip through our fingers. he has been at the club all his life given everythin and hearing this makes me sick and angry.
billynwa

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 15:58:12
ED according to many things I have read (sportingo , goal , caughtoffside and many more!) Liverpool are the club that made a 35m pound bid for Alexis Sanchez! ED surely if we had Sanchez we would have the best attacking line in the league! I know it seens unlikely but we have to remember we have KK as manager and are a team on the up! So don't be surprised if we are linked with big name players that cost a lot of money because we also have very good owners that will invest in the team! Your thoughts ED ?

{Ed006's Note - He would be a class signing no doubt, as for the best attacking line in the premier league that is debatable.}
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ok ED maybe not the bedst chemistry but we would certainly have the best attacking line on paper! Do U agree ED ?

{Ed006's Note - Did you say chemistry as in Fifa Ultimate Team? lol. Anyway, like I said it is debatable, Chelsea have Drogba, Torres and Anelka, United have Nani, Rooney, Berbatov and Hernandez and City have Tevez, Silva, Dzeko and Ballotelli. We would be a much better attacking side but there are other clubs that have got great attacking players also.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 15:54:42
"I am a big fan of steven gerrard, i hope he doesn't go but if he goes i would like Diego, Juventus
or Yoann Gourcuff, Bordeaux to replace gerrard. what do you all thing."

Gourcuff moved to Lyon in the Summer for 22m euros, about £17m, Good price for Lyon. I highly doubt he'll be moving on the summer.

. . and Diego moved to Wolfsburg last year sometime. . that was very old news. Try to keep up. since then been fined failing to follow instructions. I thought everyone knew that? You don't. .

So both names you incredibly got all information wrong. . smells like a Man Utd fan to me. . no knowledge of the game.

Rumours I've heard are:

Linked to Roma striker Mirko Vucinic and potentially involved in a three way battle for highly-rated Ivory Coast striker Gervinho. Also looking at Fernando Gago who I personally don't think we need. We don't need any more mercenary Argentinians and finally a player, nicknamed 'La Pantera' (the panther), Lucas Barrios of Borussia Dortmund.

PS. Hope you're all still rejoicing at the weekends game. Still celebrating that. Shame Ferguson's silence to the media has sort of distracted everyone from what a brilliant beat-down we gave them.

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 15:45:28
Ed i thought i would join the gerrard debate , do you think it would be a wise move? to me if i was luis suarez , andy carroll or any other new player and i saw gerrard leaving as i was arriving it doesn't exactly look good , now i know u say gerrard thinks hes bigger than club and isn't performing as well as he can but will the other liverpool players think this? i think it would affect future signings a little , can't believe so many people are anti gerrard , i never wanna sell him because he is my favourite player of all time , think of all the stuff he has done for this football club , i can't imagine him in another shirt.

what you think ed? u honestly think its in liverpools best interests to sell gerrard?

{Ed006's Note - I know other ed(s) think Gerrard should leave but I'm in the same boat as you. I would never wish to see him for a different club, I don't think he would wan't to play for another club. I hope we don't sell him.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 15:24:27
Lads, just remember the impact that giggs and scholes has had on utd winning titles. ferguson won't have sold those players at 31 for no amount of money. why should we be any different. Stevie is a class act and will continue to be.

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 15:18:47
So, according to some fans, it doesn't matter if Gerrard leaves.i thought only some players are unfaithful to leave the club but here I can find so many unfaithful fans.when Gerrard was at his best, you all would praise him and all.have you all forgotten who led the fightback when we won the Champions League just to mention one.it's so disgusting to read all these stuffs being posted against him.does he deserve to be sold coz of some below average performances? i don't think so when I consider some below average players getting praises from some fans here.SHAME ON ALL THOSE WHO WANT TO SEE GERRARD SOLD AND TRYING TO FIND HIS REPLACEMENT ALREADY.YOU LOTS CAN'T BE REAL LFC FANS. {Ed001's Note - oh I suppose you think we should still have the likes of Dalglish on the pitch now then? The time to sell is when performances drop, that is the Liverpool Way, to be ruthless in removing players that are no longer up to scratch. There were ructions when Ray Kennedy left, it made the team stronger. But players like John Barnes were still playing for the club long after they were no longer good enough and it cost us. Players can't be kept due to a romantic attachment to their past achievements, it has to be about what they are capable of in the present day and the future.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 14:56:06
To all those wanting GERRARD to leave
R u a RED from Liverpool or a RED with a devilish soul? He will stay and we will cheer him on. Maybe he is slow and lost his flair a bit in the last 2 years, but this is Liverpool. When we could show faith in a JUDAS for 6 months who is the reason for our position (coz he sulked and dint score) then how can we forget a man and berate him who gave us memories of ISTANBUL and WEMBLEY. U must be kidding me? I would like him to stay and play 60 mins every game as he would be a great influence for any TRUE RED who will play for LFC in the future. Playing alongside a legend always inspires people and can u imagine - - GERRARD, CARRA and KENNY there around these youngsters at the same time to show what they could achieve if they stayed loyal to fans and not money.
for me, GERRARD, CARRA and KENNY are the pillors of 21st century LFC like Liberty, Equality and Fraternity for democracy.
Eventually, let KK decide what he wants and stop with these BS rumors
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How fickle, we are not saying we are against Gerrard in any way shape or form, we are simply saying that the team plays better without him, and that is a fact.
Every TRUE RED as you put it understands what Gerrard has done for the club, that does not mean we should keep him around for memories, we want to push on and get better, not remember what players once did for us.

Anfield Andy {Ed001's Note - otherwise we would still be watching Dalglish on the pitch rather than the dugout....}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 15:11:02
I know people are saying about getting turan, but if we are buying young players in this is only going to stop the chance of our young kids breaking into the 1st team.
Suso, coady, sterling and silva can only be a season or two away from being ready for the 1st team.

LAVERS

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 14:51:19
I would rather see any yound english player with the work ethic that they have rather than having a benzema who things he is amazin when he is just not.

and about gerrard leavin, he won't leave now towards the end of his career if he didn't leave 5 years ago

hes a red through and through

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 14:52:01
ED what do you think our ideal team for next season would be? please post and comment ED :) {Ed001's Note - ideal? Well it would have Messi in it for starters. Or do you mean ideal and realistic? I just want to be sure before I try and figure one out.}
Ideal and realistic if you can please ED :) {Ed001's Note - I would have to say:
Reina
Kelly - Ayala - Agger - Johnson
- - - - - - M'Vila - - - - -
- - Meireles - Lucas/ Suso
Suarez - - - - - - - - - - Turan
- - - - - - Carroll - - - - - - -
That is trying to keep it realistic as possible.}

Sorry Ed just read this post and would like to ask you something :
If you were to just be realistic and not 'as realistic as possible' who would you have in the team Ed ? {Ed002's Note - I don't think he would change it.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 14:41:34
To all those wanting GERRARD to leave
R u a RED from Liverpool or a RED with a devilish soul? He will stay and we will cheer him on. Maybe he is slow and lost his flair a bit in the last 2 years, but this is Liverpool. When we could show faith in a JUDAS for 6 months who is the reason for our position (coz he sulked and dint score) then how can we forget a man and berate him who gave us memories of ISTANBUL and WEMBLEY. U must be kidding me? I would like him to stay and play 60 mins every game as he would be a great influence for any TRUE RED who will play for LFC in the future. Playing alongside a legend always inspires people and can u imagine - - GERRARD, CARRA and KENNY there around these youngsters at the same time to show what they could achieve if they stayed loyal to fans and not money.
for me, GERRARD, CARRA and KENNY are the pillors of 21st century LFC like Liberty, Equality and Fraternity for democracy.
Eventually, let KK decide what he wants and stop with these BS rumors

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 14:25:35

I have it on good authority that the team to face Braga tomorrow will be as follows providing there is no injuries: (4-2-3-1)

25. Pepe Reina
2. Glen Johnson
22. Daniel Wilson
23. Jamie Carragher
37. Martin Skrtel
28. Christian Poulsen
21. Lucas Leiva
18. Dirk Kuyt
17. Maxi Rodriguez
4. Raul Meireles
9. Andrew Carroll

SUBS
1. Brad Jones
16. Soritios Krygiakos
38. John Flanagan
44. Emmanuel Mendy
26. Jay Spearing
10. Joe Cole
12. Daniel Pacheco
24. David N'Gog

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 14:11:46
On the Gerrard subject, I totally agree that others play better when he is not there.
I have watched Liverpool squander attacking options too many times, and opted to pass to a central Gerrard who is doubled up on, as oposed to passing out wide and attacking the flanks.
Gerrard would still command upwards of £25M, and it could appear to be the same as the Torres situation. Let one player go for big bucks, to buy, or atleast put cash towards, two quality players.
When Torres left and we got Carrol and Suarez we lost a player who hadnt been playing well, would get kicked in the opening ten minutes and sulk for 80 more, for two strikers who wanted to play at the highest level, and chose Liverpool to be the place to do that.
If we sold Gerrard, with extra finance we could quite easily go after both Banega and Javi Martinez, sell one midfielder, who at times prohibits some atacking options, and is less and less influential as time goes on, and gain two young fresh and inspiring players.
I also believe that Suso should be moved to CM, as his passing ability is unreal, got a sweeter left foot than Gareth Barry anyday.

Hate to say it, but I would agree that if a good offer came in then it would be time for captain fantastic to leave!Any thoughts ed, or anyone else?

Anfield Andy

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 14:18:43
Steve Parker {Ed001's Note - I fully understand what you are saying about gay footballers, we were just discussing how nice it was to see Glenn Hysen supporting his son after he came out. There were many rumours suggesting sexuality was holding back another son of his as well, I hope that is not true. But I do not feel that it is up to you to name a footballer as gay - it is up to the person concerned to decide whether or not his sexuality is open or not. Personally I fail to see any kind of issue here as I really do not give a toss whether a player is straight, gay, bi-sexual or any kind of other sexual. My only interest is their ability on the pitch.}

* the issue is wider and about fans and how the game has been damaged by the issue. The issue is important not to expose players, but to talk about how we shape the game for the future in terms of fans and associated issues.
Perhaps this is just a forum for wishlists, backslapping and moaning.
OK - we can live with that.

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 13:57:07
"The Madness of King Roy XXXIV"

The emergence of Keisuke Honda after six weeks in the 'transfer jungle' doesn't seem to have ignited any spark in me. I believe in the player and think he may prove a valuable asset to our 2011/ 12 squad. But, since the recent results, I have almost forgotten about him. Then I read that Ada Turan is injured and I wonder if while we sleep, DC has been hunting down these targets? I beleive in DC, NESV and KK.

I'm not going into the usual wish-list/ endless guessing what will happen scenarios, yet I will say that there will be a big clear out at the end of the season. No shock there and no Septic Sid guesswork needed for that Steve! I also suggest that Reina will go and that there will be at least one major surprise in terms of movers: I would almost guess that either Agger or Skrtel will leave and that concerns me. I am not convinced about Skrtel but bekleive in Agger.

Anyway, if I could finish with some general words about the game:

1. MOANS & GROANS: this has become the hottest issue in the game this season. Both Sir Axel Forgerson and Obscene Whinger have gone into overdrive on complaining. EVERY game the two of them are bitching about something. Everything is someone else's fault and every game they have miserable faces of anger and frustration. You're right Obscene - the whole world is against you and your "very young and immensely talented players who are viciously robbed of the ball every time with disgraceful and vicious tackles"!

2. THE MEDIA: enough has been said about Ferguson and his media blackout. Even the MUFC fans can't believe the way he has turned on them. This man has had his inflated ego dented (starting last Sunday) and is shocked at the way the media treat him. Even Prince Andrew is asked questions Fergie!

3. THE FA: I regularly rant about this cadre of clowns who do nothing to manage the game in the country. They appointed Capello and gave him a pay rise when he failed! They smiled when Cole was 'punished' by Chelsea and did nothing about it (imagine the trainee getting away with shooting a player at the training ground? Think he might be in jail now?) and now they have the chance to punish Ferguson. Don't hold your breath!

4. COCKNEY COMEDY ACT: I for one think Spurs will lose by a good three goals tonight - and wish it so. I was appalled at the Cheeky Cockney Comedy Manager writing in the newspaper the other day about how innocent he was. I still want to know if he was lying when he said with a cheeky Cockney grin and shrug of the shoulder - "I don't even know 'ow to turn on a PC!" A modern manager using all the tools to keep in touch and on top of the game? Maybe I could call him and ask him? "I don't even know 'ow to use a mobile phone thingy!"

5. PUNDITS: God, I've started, so I need to finish! I need to exempt Graham Taylor, Pat Nevin and Craig Burley from my usual rant about these usless and overpaid TV people. Three who have new ideas and things to say. The rest are still "utterly sensational, brilliant and geniuses and amazingly unbelievable at everything they do!" By the way - talkS**T - will Adrian Durham and Stan Collymiore cut the faux antagonism. We don't need to call in and marvel at it. It's as false as Stan's achievements when he was with us and equally as irritating.

Finally: I am still banging on the door of the editors and making my views know on the subject of gay footballers. There is a paranoid fear of even discussing it on forums like this. Be brave I say. It won't degenerate into a 'naming and shaming' expose and legal minefield if you moderate it carefully. But it will highlight a very important issue that affects fans as much as players.

Steve Parker {Ed001's Note - I fully understand what you are saying about gay footballers, we were just discussing how nice it was to see Glenn Hysen supporting his son after he came out. There were many rumours suggesting sexuality was holding back another son of his as well, I hope that is not true. But I do not feel that it is up to you to name a footballer as gay - it is up to the person concerned to decide whether or not his sexuality is open or not. Personally I fail to see any kind of issue here as I really do not give a toss whether a player is straight, gay, bi-sexual or any kind of other sexual. My only interest is their ability on the pitch.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 13:59:28
Just gonna put this out there
Suarez is better than Torres, not just on recent form, on ability. Torres is a finisher with pace, but does not really take many people on, or have a good pass to create much. Suarez has pace and can finish, but can take people on, creates things for other people, brings others into the game.
Torres - Great player, individual
Suarez - Great player, makes those around him play great aswell, team player.
Ed, would you agree? {Ed001's Note - I have to say that I have been highly impressed with Suarez since he joined us, I was sceptical, to say the least, about his ability to transfer form from the Dutch Eredivisie to the English Premier. But he has actually looked even better than he did for Uruguay and Ajax, much better. There was always the suspicion that it was Forlan making him look good with his excellent workrate and movement, but now it seems that it was a very mutually rewarding partnership. Suarez does look far better for the team than Torres has ever done.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 13:37:01
Hi Ed

Don't know if anyone will agree with me, but I think that Gerrard has been a big influence at Liverpool and has certainly made his mark - BUT - I think the players around him perform better when he is not playing, its like when he is playing they all expect him to do something special and therefore hold back themselves. When he is not playing the players realise the have it to do themselves and this appears to me to give a better balance to the team.

Gerrard to stay or £20-25m in the bank for a budding young replacement?

Mmmmm, theres the thought!

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 13:21:54
Very nice site!

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 13:15:23
My thoughts on our team to play Braga :
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _REINA_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
JOHNSON_ _ _KYRGIAKOS_ _ SKTREL_ _ _WILSON
RODRIGUEZ_ _ _MEIRELES_ _ _LUCAS_ _ _ COLE
_ _ _ _ _ _ NGOG_ _ _ _ _ _KUYT_ _ _ _ _ _ _

SUBS: JONES , CARROLL , SHELVEY , SPEARING , JOVANOVIC , AGGER , POULSEN .
what you think ED is this possibly the team for tomorrow ? {Ed001's Note - possibly, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Carroll start.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 12:59:13
Hi. stevie injured again on liverpooltv, also it says luiz is in the travelling squad. . .does that mean he can play? ?

matty b {Ed001's Note - no, it means he has traveled as part of the squad, it is still a getting-to-know-you period for Suarez, the club are making the most of any opportunity for him to train with the team.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 12:53:05
Where did this Gerrard leaving rubbish come from? Must be Bitters or Mancs posting. People saying we had Arbeloa and Riera contributing a few season's ago! Are they real? Torres leaving means he will go? Weren't there postings that suggested they didn't celebrate goals together? It is even suggested that Arsenal are a better team without Henry - just how many trophies have they won since he left?
Remember the second half against Napoli, SG got both goals in the PL at Old Trafford and has been MoM 8 times this season in the LFC fans web site. He was head and shoulders England's MoM in the international where he got the recent injury.
True he hasn't shown the form of two seasons ago but why would we want to build a squad without him? Do we really want to replace him with some untried foreign player, who might not want to play for us because his wife doesn't like the climate.
It staggers me how fickle some people can be. Great win and look around to see who didn't play so well and suggest they may leave.
OK so now we have Carroll and he is the future. I believe he could be, but hang on, he has only played 15 minutes in a game we were coasting. I am glad KK shows the sense not to build without solid foundations. Everyone has to prove themselves but if you have a player who has been doing it for 10 years and is still committed why suggest a parting of the ways?
Please accept that SG should stay until he retires.

Kev in the South

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 12:45:13
I would just like to add i doubt weather Gerard is leaving being the great servant he has been nor will he get sold against his wishes it is not the Liverpool way.
But if he left he would leave with my best wishes he has stuck with the club through thick and thin.
Now we are entering a new exciting process of rebuilding it may be the right time for him to go if he so wishes.
To those with issues on Gerard just remember he is the best servant this club has had since Dalglish.

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 12:40:44
{Ed002's Note - Damien Comolli is tasked with finding a permanent manager for the club. However, if Kenny Dalglish wants the job on a permanent basis, I would imaging the job would be his for the taking.}

With regards to the above. .Ed do you think NESV are still a little unsure about KK? They could make him permenant mgr now but seem to be waiting. .Maybe they will do this in the nxt few weeks but i have a feeling they wanna see a bit more from him tactically b4 they commit long term. .they may wait until pre season?

We still get linked with mgr's like van gaal recently if they were 100% sure they could end all speculation now. .

Would be very brave decision too upset 90% of supporters and go with someone new now don, t you think?

{Ed002's Note - I really don't know what they are thinking but they set a realistic end of season schedule for everyone - Dalglish to prove himself, Comolli to seek options that may be available. As I said, if Dalglish wants the job then it will likely be his for the taking. There is no need to rush in to any decisions on this.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 12:36:45
Jeremy toulalon
Nigel de Jong
Nehur sahin
for Gerrard replacement if it happens?

Ed who would you have? {Ed002's Note - Read the earlier posts and you will see.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 12:30:44
RedSG great post. Like it.
Duckula

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 12:21:43
I have Stevie G as a "like" on Facebook & its just come up as breaking news that he is out for tomorrow night! That groin niggle is clearly at him quite a bit! As long as he's ready for Sunderland is all i can say! Gonna miss him tomorrow big time!
Cheers,
Irish Kev.

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 12:23:36
Ed, i think i might get slated here, but why don, t we try and bring in David Beckham as a squad player for a season, yes he is old but his deliver is still second to none and the money that could be generated by the club in one season with shirt sales in the far east etc who still love him?

{Ed002's Note - It would be a complete waste of time and money.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 12:15:56
Loads of people keep on mentioning Ever Banega as a possible signing - he can't hardly get into the Valencia team and had major work permit problems when Everton tried to bring him to England a year or so ago, and to my knowlege he hasn't uprooted any trees internationally since then, so the same issue would arise. Martinez, M'villa, Gerrard, Lucas and Merilles as senior midfielders would be a mouthwatering prospect.

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 12:04:32
SORRY - I copied and pasted from the LFC.tv site.

He may have travelled he may not play!

{Ed002's Note - It is not that he "may" not play - he "will" not play as he is cup-tied for this season.}

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09 Mar 2011 12:02:02
Suarez is STILL cup-tied!

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Gerrard has not travelled to Braga? ?

Any ideas has his injury flared up again? ?

Squad that has travelled:

Jones, Johnson, Meireles, Suarez, Carroll, Cole, Pacheco, Kyrgiakos, Maxi, Kuyt, Lucas, Wilson, Carragher, Ngog, Reina, Spearing, Poulsen, Shelvey, Kelly, Skrtel, Hansen, Gulacsi, Flanagan, Mendy.

YNWA JNS {Ed

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 12:02:02
Suarez is STILL cup-tied!

-----------------------------------------------------

Gerrard has not travelled to Braga? ?

Any ideas has his injury flared up again? ?

Squad that has travelled:

Jones, Johnson, Meireles, Suarez, Carroll, Cole, Pacheco, Kyrgiakos, Maxi, Kuyt, Lucas, Wilson, Carragher, Ngog, Reina, Spearing, Poulsen, Shelvey, Kelly, Skrtel, Hansen, Gulacsi, Flanagan, Mendy.

YNWA JNS

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 12:00:57
09 Mar 2011 11:38:34
"Squad that has travelled:

Jones, Johnson, Meireles, Suarez, Carroll, Cole, Pacheco, Kyrgiakos, Maxi, Kuyt, Lucas, Wilson, Carragher, Ngog, Reina, Spearing, Poulsen, Shelvey, Kelly, Skrtel, Hansen, Gulacsi, Flanagan, Mendy."

Why would Suarez be in the squad?

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 11:42:02
Best business we ever did - £50M for Torres & look what position we are in now with Suarez & Carroll.

Should anyone want to leave, by definition we WILL be in a stronger position. If your heart and mind arent at Liverpool then you are of no use to us.

If Reina did want to go and SG then so be it. I hope its not (and they are committed to the cause) but they are only cogs in a much bigger machine.

***WELSH KOPITE***

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 11:38:26
Stevie G leaving is IMO absolute Ball Ox. He will only be leaving if KK does not want him, which is highly unlikely seeing the gushing comments KK made about Stevie G only a month ago. Those who think we would get £20m plus for him at his age are living in cloud cookoo land. Whilst Stevie G's performances over the last 18 months have dropped from his world class standard, we do not know if this is due to injuries or age or both. What I do know is that he is still a very valuable member of the first team and has the ability to continue to do so for 3-4 more season. Whilst he may not have been a world class performer over the last 18 months, he is still a better than any of our other midfielders. He will not be sold. Reality Red

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 11:38:34
Gerrard has not travelled to Braga? ?

Any ideas has his injury flared up again? ?

Squad that has travelled:

Jones, Johnson, Meireles, Suarez, Carroll, Cole, Pacheco, Kyrgiakos, Maxi, Kuyt, Lucas, Wilson, Carragher, Ngog, Reina, Spearing, Poulsen, Shelvey, Kelly, Skrtel, Hansen, Gulacsi, Flanagan, Mendy.

YNWA JNS

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 11:29:28
Why would stevie g want a move away from lfc? kk is in charge and the team is playing better. there will also me alot of players leaving aswell as good players coming in . so next season is going to be big.
also why would stevie g come out and say he will do everything for kk to be permanent manager? or is it that the owners are looking for a new manager? {Ed002's Note - Damien Comolli is tasked with finding a permanent manager for the club. However, if Kenny Dalglish wants the job on a permanent basis, I would imaging the job would be his for the taking.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 11:09:23
Ed002's Note

I see. So if say Chelsea were to agree a fee with Udinese and personal terms with young Sanchez now, either Chelsea, Udinese or the player could still pull out of the deal . . renege?

{Ed002's Note - Yes, of course.}

Regarding Gerrard, well, he's certainly been terrific for us, for years. I appreciate all he's given on the pitch for this club. But I feel it's perhaps time to move on.

His past two or so years have, imo, been reminiscent of Henry's at Arsenal a couple years back.
He's become too powerful, grown the "I'm bigger than the club" mentality, as reflected by his attitude. Everything being about and going through him . . it's not a healthy situation. In fact it's BAD!
His role in the removal of Benitez and the hiring of his successor Roy Hodgson really was the last straw for me.

For far too long myths and half-truths have been perpetuated about Gerrard being the centre that holds this team. Whilst Gerrard's impact indeed knew no bounds, he was never and never will be the sole pillar of this team.

The were tons of games we played (well) and won in 2008/ 09 without the "talisman" skipper. This season, even, we've played well in games and won without him. In fact you'll find that we'd play well in his absence and the next match be bollocks when he's there.

Liverpool, folks, were never a "one-man" team at any stage. Two years ago we had players such as Alonso, Arbeloa, Riera etc whose contribution was as good as anyone's. If there's one player this team has truly missed, it's Xabi Alonso, as evidenced by our slide last season and limited creativity this year.

Don't be disheartened, fellas. When Henry left Arsenal, doom and gloom was predicted.
But look what happened: the likes of Fabregas and Van Persie weren't being good players to great players. Adebayor replaced Henry and became a better player for Arsenal, not necessarily better than the Frenchman, of course.

Responsibility was shared, there was more balance in the team, players played with more freedom and less pressure (of having to please their "star" captain). Basically, Arsenal became a team in what, if you want to, a new era, new beginning.

I remember how well Arsenal started that season. The aplomb of their play, the craft of Fabregas, the finishing by Adebayor, the defensive steel of Gallas and Toure at the back . . everyone was free and enjoying their game. Henry was long forgotten even before he landed in Catalonia.

The same could happen here at Anfield. Players Lucas and Raul could get even better. More freedom and less pressure of having to please and cover the shortcomings of "Mr Liverpool".
There'd be a breath of fresh air, a sense of a new happy, free and relaxed beginning.

I'm sure even Pepe might consider staying if he'd thought otherwise. Pepe's no mug. He knows how influential the "local boys" Carra and Stevie were in Benitez's departure and Roy Hodgson coming in. These two are as much too blame for our decline the last two or so years through their powerplay with a certain banker who played football manager with my club, with our club. Pepe knows this, and I'm willing to bet that it has pissed him off, he hasn't forgotten

As the ed has pointed out on numerous occassions, fans see the skipper through tinted glasses, and I bet many believe that Gerrard, just like us the fans, is just a victim of a muddy H+G reign. Well, he's much more than that.

I do appreciate the good he's done for us, but a parting of ways would probably suit all involved well. He goes to La Liga or Seria A or Bundesliga and get a change of scenery. Win two or three title.
We start afresh with a new young, team, new leader and just be a team.
Arsenal did it we could do it.

What you reckon, ed, am I perhaps a tad harsh on the skipper?
Also, about this Sissoko you say he might be Gerrard's likely replacement. How old and exactly good is he?

Thanks
I-HATE-HODGSON

{Ed002's Note - I did not say that Sissoko is his likely replacement as I have no knowledge of Gerrard leaving. The question was asked hypothetically. I think Sissoko would be an excellent addition to the Liverpool midfield, regardless of whether or not Gerrard leaves.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 10:56:16
ED If Gerard is to leave would you think Sahin would become a top target and whats our chances of bring in Javi Martinez?
I have a feeling our Spanish ventures are limited nowadays would you agree? {Ed002's Note - I expect that the club have identified their midfield targets already.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 10:50:24
Have I missed something here? Where has all the talk of Gerrard leaving come from? Liverpool are only going one way and that is up! The club is at probably at its most stable for the last 5 years - with a manager who knows what it means to manage Liverpool and owners who are prepared to back their manager. We say it every year that next year will be our year, but with some well though out signings, we can challenge for the Premiership next season. Gerrard is not the player of 2005 or 2006, but he is still one of the best in the world. I can see Gerrard, like Scholes and Giggs, being at Liverpool well into his 30s, and still being effective for us.
In the summer, I hope we can sign a left-back (Aly Cissokho, Mamadou Sakho or Leighton Baines), a central midfielder (Ever Banega, Javi Martinez or Yann M'Vila) and two real wingers (from Adam Johnson, Juan Mata, Pablo Hernandez, Dmitri Payet, Ashley Young) I'm sure there are other options our there, but these are players who could make a difference. Moving on players will also be important this summer, the likes of Jovanovic, Poulsen and Cole, who haven't played to the standard we expect could be moved on a replaced with young talent we can develop - Oxlade-Chamberlain and Connor Wickham for example
RedSG

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 10:50:27
This is the exit song from the church at my Dads funeral (in malaysia)he was a liverpool supporter for all of his 67 years

When you walk through a storm hold your head up high
And don't be afraid of the dark.
At the end of a storm is a golden sky
And the sweet silver song of a lark.
Walk on through the wind,
Walk on through the rain,
Tho' your dreams be tossed and blown.
Walk on, walk on with hope in your heart
And you'll never walk alone,
You'll never, ever walk alone.

Walk on, walk on with hope in your heart
And you'll never walk alone,
You'll never, ever walk alone.

a true supporter never give up until his dying breath

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 10:42:06
If stevie leaves we would have money to buy just about any midfielder we want. so i say let him go have some fun in spain and we can choose someone 8 yrs or so younger who could be better by gerrards age

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 10:43:44
Wish everyone would stop banging on about gerrard leaving?? its never going to happen! he came out an made a statement and said he would end his career here an do you honestly think kenny is going to let mr liverpool leave? not a cats chance! Gerrard has said he wants to end his career at liverpool now the king is in charge, and he wants to be involved in the club when he ends his career! oh i know what kenny has thought(IF I WAS ONE OF YOU IDIOTS SPREADING THESE RUMOURS!) i have 3 world class players in my team (carra, gerrard, suarez) and even tho im trying to build a team worthy of winning the league and getting in to the champions league and even tho i won't get to sign the players i want to next season due to the fact that we will probably not qualify for the champions league! i will sell captain fantastic an take a massive step backwards! where do you people start these stupid rumours? ed do yourself a favour an don't even entertain this rubbish! Love the site :) p.s dosent matter what midfielder we would sign to replace gerrard he would never have the same passion an desire as steven gerrard! Liverpool born an bred YNWA!

WOOZ LFC {Ed002's Note - You are doing the same yourself by harping on about it.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 10:35:23
I ED , I have a question that has been bothering me why did we not been bothering me why did we not try harder to get Honda, and if we did but he chose to go Napol did but he chose to go Napoli instead, why would he choose napoli over lfc? nstead, why would he choose napoli over lfc? By the way fantastic game yesterday gave all my Manu friends a lot of stick today! hibsylfc {Ed001's Note - he was holding off negotiations until after Nations Cup campaign, then we were busy trying to get a striker. I don't know how concrete our don't know how concrete our interest was in him or if we were just hoping for a cheap deal, just that we had reps there speaking to his people. The only reason I can see for choosing Napoli would be the lifestyle in Italy and maybe Champions League football.} that we had reps there speaking to his people. The only reason I can see for choosing Napoli would be the lifestyle in Italy and maybe Champions League football.}
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Honda feels that the game in Italy or Spain better suits his style of play, he also feels its more likely that he will qualify for champs league there as the only team really interested England is lfc.

Talented player but if he doesn't think he can cut it in England then I certainly dont.

Hope this helps

Rewflo

It has nothing to do Napoli and Honda doesn't believe he couldnt cut it in England. If you knew anything then you would know he has extreme confidence in his ability.

His UK representitive was at Melwood for a full week discussing a move but the Asia Cup and CSKA got i the way. The deal will be looked at again in the summer but Napoli isn't the problem. . try AC Milan and Barca.

My belief from my contact is that we will NOT sign this player.

Again i can prove my links quite easily to Honda if any of the ed's wish to contact me.

Souness

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 10:17:35
If gerrard wanted to leave he would have went to chealsa a few years back let's face it he hasn't got that may years left and will end with livpool

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 10:19:19
First Verse
Steven Gerrard is our Captain,
Steven Gerrard is a Red,
Steven Gerrard Plays for Liverpool,
Scouser Bourn and Bread.

Second Verse
Then one night in Turkey,
It was 21 Years to Come,
With a Liverbird Upon His Chest,
He Brought The Cup Back Home

Third Verse
Steve Gerrard, Gerrard
he'll pass the ball 40 yards
he's better than Frank Lampard
Steve Gerrard, Gerrard

he is not going to go.
he will be in lfc until his last dying breath

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 10:05:45
Does anyone know the full squad list that has travelled to Braga?

Thanks

YNWA

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 09:56:29
Ok, we always get posters on here putting down their wish lists of players they want at a club. I'm not going to go down that route! I'm going to try & look at the players we want to keep in a 26 man squad, also leaving 4 places for young players such as Suso, Sterling, Coady etc to have the opportunity to get involved more next season. This bringing the actual squad up to 30. I'm not really concentrating on who would get into the first 11 because you can't really rely just on your first 11.

So Obviously we have Pepe & Jones
Defenders Kelly, Agger, Carra, Mavinga, Skrtel, Johnson, Wilson, Ayala
Midfielders Raul, Gerrard, Lucas, Shelvey, Cole
Forwards Carroll, Kuyt, Luis, Pacheco

Si I'm able to pick only 19 players plus any 4 younger players to come thru, bringing a total up to 23. That's 7 players short of a squad of 30. Also I haven't really weilded the axe that much! There's players like Cole & Skrtel that a lot of people don't rate ( including me) still in the squad.

Players with no future & should be taken of the wage bill are Soto, Maxi, Aqua, Spearing, Ngog, Insua, Poulsen plus players we haven't seen around for a while (Degan, El Zhar etc).

Is there anyone I've missed to be in the squad & try & bring the total players required down from 7? Is a 30 man squad too much or not enough for sustained PL, FA Cup, Europa Cup & League Cup campaign? Ed anyone I've missed? 30 man squad enough? Too many players to change at once in the summer? Cheers

the Irish Rover {Ed002's Note - I am not sure Pacheco will be around next season.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 09:42:26
All this talk of a back-up striker makes me think about one we let go. Dalle-Vale was unstoppable as a youth / reserve striker and to think that Woy allowed him to be a makeweight in the Konchesky transfer still makes my blood boil. As a striker he would have been worth considerably more than Konchesky in a couple of years time. If I remember correctly we have a buy-back option on him. I think we should maybe allow him another season at Fulham and then bring him back.
Ecclestone is also making an impact on loan at Charlton - I think it would be good to get him loaned out in the Premiership or Championship next season at a club where he will play week in week out and then get him back in the squad. We can keep N'gog as back up (4th striker) next season and then replace him with one of the above.

Bob

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 09:44:56
OK. gerrard is not leaving in the summer.
My source - the messiah of this website - - MACCA.
check his post on the site on 8th march 2011 @10.51 pm

MACCA, WE BELIEVE UR OPINIONS MORE THAN THE EDS however WE LOVE THE EDITORS TOO

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 09:38:31
I still think the only player worth wearing a liverpool shirt would be Bastian Schweinsteiger. If we lose Gerrard or anyone else from that team. We really need a person that can pass a ball like Bastian Schweinsteiger

I agree Schweinsteiger is a great player but i would go for Ever Banega myself.

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 09:35:13
Why does nt Gerrard move to Barcelona or man utd.


Haven't you got anything better to do?

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 09:32:31
All these rumours about Gerrard leaving is making everyone very nervous, i can't believe that these people haven't thought is was an oppositions fan who started the rumours. It wouldn't be the first time in the world when someone has done that.

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 09:31:44
Yo ed! How bout mertesacker as cb? You think he's good for lfc? {Ed002's Note - Sure but I am not aware of any interest.}

Mertesacker is far too slow in my opinion, i don't think i have ever seen such a slow player. I would go for Kjaer. .

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 09:28:31
Just an update on Connor Wickham. The boy is highly thought of throughout the prem but he loves Liverpool. His family can see the finances at the club have been resolved and the future does look a lot brighter but he is being tapped up almost daily. He has a buy out clause in his contract if a BIG club comes in for him and he has had his head turned by the Spurs interest. He has been to see the training facilities and was impressed with Harry's enthusiasm and energy in his job. He is concerned at the number of strikers at the club already but has been advised at least 2 will be moved on with 1 big name hopefully coming in. The boy just wants to play and doesn't want to be a bench warming bit part player but he is realistic to understand he will have to be part of a rotation program at the biggest clubs.
Also, there was a lot of friction between us a millwall over the signing of the young keeper recently. We offered potential loan signings to soften the blow but they were not happy with the way the whole transfer was handled and rejected any deals. Kenny Jackett has tried to bridge the problem and is hopefull of future loan deals like Ayala/ Eccleston/ Darby/ Ince have enjoyed outside of the prem. He is a good man and likes to get the ball down and play so i would trust any of our kids with him if the feud can be resolved

Red Scouse (Southern section)

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 09:08:54
Hi everyone if stevie wants to leave let him he has given so much to our club let him taste a diffrent team he will be back also everyone didn't want torres going but look at what we have ended up with suraz looks awesome also raul is shaping up nicely kuyt has started to shine now torres is gone i don't want stevie to go but as a loyal fan to him and has he has been loyal to us let him go as i said he will be back


lfcmike

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 09:11:22
If Gerrard was ever gonna leave he would have left in the summer.
Everything is beginning to fall into place now at Liverpool football club
He did not look like an unhappy member of the squad in the stands at the last europa league game when Kuyt scored.

L1

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 09:12:29
Dya know what I know this is arumour and banter site but can't we filter the excrement posts that we see? even some of the Eds , look back to eight months ago , Rafa just left , the carpetbaggers where touting us round like a high class brass to the highest bidders not caring One iota about this club and probably would of sold off all our top players if it weren't for Mr Broughton , We were in debt to our eyeballs , looking at administration , we brought in Norman wisdom who nearly destroyed our club , mate we were staring At the abyss , then on one October night it changed the fans ousted the shark parasites and NESV came in and SAVED our great institution which is LFC mate we have walked through the storm it's been a traumatic time but our heads our held high still a bit to go but were getting there We have solid owners , who see LFC as a long term vision to get us up were we belong , who will back Kenny and D.Comolli with the money to get the right Players that will be good enough but proud enough to wear the shirt , Kenny is doing that , NESV are doing that the true and proper fans are doing that with their unflinching support and passion for this football club , LFC are on the way back it is to the shame of previous administrations that LFC were left behind , Without a stadium , Marketing Promoting the brand worldwide , while we saw the likes of UTD and Arsenal move forward with innovation and vision we were stuck in a time warp , but now things have changed it will take time but we are in safe hands , so to the doom merchants and false prophets I will say go and spread your lies elsewhere , the proper fans know the score , so don't be afraid and Walk on with hope in your heart
Liam

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 08:57:15
Hi, ed!

Just to ask. (1) Where are all these sudden "Gerrard to leave" rumours emanating from? (2) who, in your opinion, would likely be his replacement? (3) This Marveaux and Payet. Would you say that they have what it takes to one day be on the same level as, say, Robben, Silva, Malouda?

(4) Earlier today I heard a rumour about us pursuing 18 year old Cameron Park, left winger at Middlesborough. Anything you've heard about this?

Lastly, is it possible to for clubs to conclude legally - binding contract (excluding pre-contracts) with a player outside the window, like Manure could with Pastore?

Thanks
I-HATE-HODGSON


ps: have any of you folk here considered that perhaps Turan ain't that good enough? We hear that Kenny's working hard to get in Young. He may've "recommended" him to Hodgson, but what if much more better options have sprung to the table? This "Turan this, Turan that"'s becoming a tad tedious now.

If Kenny deems the lad good enough and needed, he'll go after him, but till now there hasn't been a shred of evidence to suggest he intends getting him in.

As for Young, well, I think a man who played in and coached some of Liverpool's most successful sides would be in a better position anyone else to know what players this team (and he) needs to return its former glory.
Many of us would prefer Sanchez over Young for I think obvious reasons.

Well, The King's eye sees a lot deeper that obvious, so when he says Young is we man, he is, he has to be. {Ed002's Note - (1) No idea; (2) Sissoko; (3) No - but you are talking about exceptional cases. It is not possible to transfer registrations outside of the transfer windows so "legally-binding" would obviously not be possible. But certainly a fee can be agreed - which is what Chelsea have been looking to do in respect of Sanchez.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 08:40:38
I don't believe SG is desperate to win the league and therefore will be looking for a new club. He's desperate to win the league WITH Liverpool. He has medals with us and wants to beat Manure to no. 19 but I can't believe he would go to any other club just to complete his collection - it wouldn't mean anywhere near as much as if he won the league with us. He's staying at LFC for life.

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 08:16:21
Just strolling down the page and can't believe what i'm reading, Gerrard might leave in the summer? Where has this rumour come from? His idol is in charge, We will be challenging next season for top honours, I'm not convinced by this at all. Gerrard will be a Liverpool player next season

Corkpoolred

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 03:54:14
RE: We nearly went bankrupt because of two owners - you forgot to mention that we are one of the most profitable clubs around.}

Liverpool transfer spending last 8 years. We have made a lost every year apart from the last two where we sold off Alonso, Arbeloa, Masherano, Torres and not for great amounts. I still think they where worth more.


Season 03/ 04 - -£2, 250,000
Season 04/ 05 - -£25, 300,000 Champions League 2005
Season 05/ 06 - -£25, 640,000 FA Cup 2006
Season 06/ 07 - -£15, 660,000 Gillett and Hicks
Season 07/ 08 - -£39, 850,000
Season 08/ 09 - -£6, 250,000 2nd Premiership
Season 09/ 10 - £8, 650,000 Profit sold Xabi Alonso, Alvaro Arbeloa
Season 10/ 11 - £5, 150,000 Profit (Nesv£288m)Sold Javier mascherano, Fernando Torres


Arsenal Tranfer Spend - players lost.


Season 03/ 04 - -£16, 650,000 Premiership Title
Season 04/ 05 - -£1, 600,000 2nd + FA Cup Winners (Sold Ray Parlour.Martin Keown)
Season 05/ 06 - -£6, 780,000 (sold Patrick Vieira, Robert Pires)
Season 06/ 07 - £17,000,000 Profit (*Moved to new 60'000 Emirates) (sold Thierry Henry. Ashley Cole, Sol Campbell)
Season 07/ 08 - -£13, 400,000 (Fredrik Ljungberg, Jens Lehmann)
Season 08/ 09 - £50,000 Proft
Season 09/ 10 - £31,000,000 Profit
Season 10/ 11 - -£6, 800,000 League Cup Runners up +

Well I think Arsenal are almost at a stage where they will start winning trophies. Arsen Wenger managed to get them into a new stadium and once arsenal are financial stable. They will spend big to get in one or tow players that will move them into Barcelona status.

I take your point about trophies and this year Arsenal where meant to win everything. Wenger rebuild the team, new stadium and was ready to fill the trophy cabinet

If it doesn't happen this year with the premiership. Then next year will be arsenals year. They are ready to start winning

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 04:07:25
Why does nt Gerrard move to Barcelona or man utd.

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 04:46:18
I am a big fan of steven gerrard, i hope he doesn't go but if he goes i would like Diego, Juventus
or Yoann Gourcuff, Bordeaux to replace gerrard. what do you all thing.

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 05:28:27
Hi ed was just wondering do you think there is any chance of alonso returning in the summer or near future. .would love to see him in the red shirt again

Great site btw :-) {Ed002's Note - It is most unlikely.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 05:46:00
Tevie has a persistant groin problem which has hampered his season. But I also think that with the impressive performaces of Lucas, Raul and Prince Luis, they have over shadowed the good work that Stevie has done, in the middle of the park.

Yes some people do not like Stevie the person, but to doubt Stevie the player and somehow forget what he has done for us in the last 10 years, is jusk incredible and to be honest sounds like somthing a Manc would say. But what do I know?

Blair Mayne YNWA

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It's what gerrard does now. . not the last 10 years. offcourse out of form is something every player deals with , that's ok . but it seems like he lost his passion to play for liverpool , I assume he thinks it would be impossible to get title with liverpool and overthinking his option . . I can honestly say i would agree with gerrard if he decides to find some silverware somewhere else. As a player point of view everyone wants silverware. .

I wish him the best if he leaves. If not i hope he improves

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 06:04:47
We need to change our defence

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 06:55:36
Morning. the big issue with stevie g and all top players is that if any players have a great season or two then all tops clubs will be having a look at them. there has always been interest gerrard as he is and was a top player, he would walk into most teams in europe. im sure if saurez has a top couple of seasons, come the summer all the papers will say hes leaving, madrid want him etc etc same with big andy. . . .thats football guys. i can't see stevie leaving and i don't want him to. weather he is a nice bloke or not he is liverpool captain so i will back him all the way. i would say that maybe saurez isn't a nice bloke after biting some one but again i will back him now he plays for us. far to many people change there opinions on a day to day basis. before utd game it was all get rid of him, change this now that we whooped them were gonna win the league next year. . have faith and it will come good, kenny aint no idiot, hes been there done it and had an ice lolly whilst wearing the tshirt.

still smiling from sunday.


matty b

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 07:14:35
Hello eds! What are the chances of us getting javi martinez or ever banega regardless of stevie g leaving or not? Thanks ed! {Ed002's Note -Banega is possible.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 07:46:16
What is all this bs about gerrard leaving? He isn't going, he's older now and he will play out his days with liverpool, end of.

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 08:00:08
Just watched the Istanbul match for the millionth time. Stevie G isn't going anywhere. End of.

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 03:02:45
Arsenal Transfer Record last 5 years.

Players Purchased In Season 10/ 11
Marouane Chamakh Free *bargain buy
Kyle Ebecillo £500,000
Laurent Koscielny £10,000,000 *bargain buy
Sebastien Squillaci £4,000,000[ *bargain buy
Ryo Miyaichi Undisclosed
In £14, 500,000
Players Sold
Fran Merida Free
Philippe Senderos Free
Luke Ayling Free
Eduardo £6,000,000
Sol Campbell Free
Jay Simpson £1, 200,000
Havard Nordtveit £500,000
Nacer Barazite Free
Out £7, 700,000
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Total -£6, 800,000
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Players Purchased In Season 09/ 10
Thomas Vermaelen £10,000,000 *bargain buy
Samuel Galindo Undisclosed
Sol Campbell Free
In £10,000,000
Players Sold
James Dunne Free
Rene Steer Free
Abu Ogogo Free
Kolo Toure £16,000,000
Emmanuel Adebayor £25,000,000
Out £41,000,000
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Total £31,000,000 money in the bank
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Players Purchased In Season 08/ 09
Amaury Bischoff Undisclosed
Mikel Sylvester £750,000
Andrei Arshavin £15,000,000 *bargain buy
Justin Hoyte £3,000,000
In £15, 750,000
Players Sold
Mathieu Flamini Free
Alexander Hleb £11, 800,000
Gilberto Silva £1,000,000
Out £15, 800,000
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Total £50,000 money in the bank
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Players Purchased In Season 07/ 08
Samir Nasri £15, 800,000 *bargain buy
Aaron Ramsey £5,000,000 *bargain buy
Luke Freeman £200,000
Lassana Diarra £4,000,000 *bargain buy
Bakari Sagna £6,000,000 *bargain buy
In £31,000,000
Jens Lehmann Free
Lassana Diarra £5, 500,000
Matthew Connolly £1,000,000
Joe O'Cearuill Free
Ryan Garry Free
Jose Reyes £8, 100,000
Fredrik Ljungberg £3,000,000
Out £17, 600,000
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Total -£13, 400,000
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Players Purchased In Season 06/ 07
Eduardo £7, 500,000
Nacer Barazite Free
Lukasz Fabianski £2,000,000
Denilson £3, 400,000 *bargain buy
William Gallas (Swap AshleyCole)
Alexandre Song Billong £1,000,000 *bargain buy
Fran Merida Perez Free
Joe O'Cearuill Free
In £13, 900,000
Peggy Lokando Free
Arturo Lupoli Free
Thierry Henry £16, 100,000
Jeremie Aliadiere £2,000,000
Mart Poom Free
Fabrice Muamba £2,000,000
Sebastian Larsson £1,000,000
Bisan Lauren £500,000
Anthony Stokes £2,000,000
Ashley Cole £5,000,000
Pascal Cygan £2,000,000
Sol Campbell Free
Ryan Smith £300,000
Graham Stack Signed
Michael Jordan Free
Out £30, 900,000
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Total £17,000,000 Money in the bank (*Moved to new 60'000 Emirates)
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Players Purchased In Season 05/ 06
Tomas Rosicky £6, 800,000 *bargain buy
Mart Poom Free
Theo Walcott £9, 100,000 *bargain buy
Emmanuel Adebayor £7,000,000
Vassiriki Diaby £2,000,000 *bargain buy
Aleksandr Hleb £11, 200,000
Armand Traore £250,000
Vito Mannone £350,000
Nicklas Bendtner £200,000 *bargain buy
In £36, 900,000
Robert Pires Free
Mark Howard Free
Frankie Simek Free
Sebastian Svard Free
Patrick Cregg Free
Stephen O'Donnell Free
Daniel Karbassiyoon Free
Dean McDonald Free
Adam Birchall Free
Olafur Ingi Skulason Free
David Bentley £10,000,000
Patrick Vieira £13, 700,000
Jermaine Pennant £4, 670,000
Quincy Owusu-Abeyie £1, 500,000
Stuart Taylor £250,000
Out £30, 120,000
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Total -£6, 780,000
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Players Purchased In Season 04/ 05
Emmanuel Eboue £1,000,000 *bargain buy
Mathieu Flamini £1,000,000
Manuel Almunia £2, 500,000 *bargain buy
In £4, 500,000
Edu Free
Chris Wright Free
Matthew Hislop Free
Rami Shaaban Free
John Spicer Free
Tomas Danilevicius Free
Stephen Bradley Free
Sylvain Wiltord Free
Igor Stepanovs Free
Nw**kwo Kanu Free
Ray Parlour Free
Martin Keown Free
Dominic Shimmin £300,000
Francis Jeffers £2, 600,000
Out £2, 900,000
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Total -£1, 600,000
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Players Purchased In Season 03/ 04
Arturo Lupoli Signed
Robin Van Persie £2, 750,000 *bargain buy
Jose Reyes £13,000,000
Gael Clichy £250,000 *bargain buy
Johan Djourou £0 *bargain buy
Jens Lehmann £2,000,000
Philippe Senderos £2, 500,000
Cesc Fabregas Free (Poached From Barcelona Free 16year spainish unemployment law forbids 16year old signing professional contracts)
In £20, 500,000
Dean Shiels Free
Alex Bailey Free
Craig Holloway Free
Ashley Probets Free
Liam Chilvers Free
Nicky Nicolau Free
John Halls Free
Guillaume Warmuz Free
Oleg Luzhny Free
Efstathios Tavlaridis £250,000
Jerome Thomas £100,000
Moritz Volz £500,000
Giovanni Van Bronckhorst £3,000,000
Out £3, 850,000
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Total -£16, 650,000
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Just goes to show how well Arsenal have been run within the last 5 years. Winning Trophies is not the most important thing.

From a business View.
Arsenal
1- Offer a better "footballing Product" to wotch (attacking Football)
2- Maintain Crowd revenues dispute not winning trophies.
3- New 60,000 seat stadium
4- Better younger technical Players on average wages and below average transfer fees
5- Maintain Champions League Spot - Make last 16 champions league every year.
6- Every year Arsenal Improve dispute losing some players Great players. Eg Kolo Toure, Emmanuel Adebayor, Mathieu Flamini, Alexander Hleb, Ashley Cole
7- In the past, Arsenal have managed to sell Assets such as Henry, Veria, just at the right time to make profit on transfers.

{Editor Note: I never disputed that Arsenal weren't a well run club, nor did I dispute that that Wenger was a top class manager. I'm just making the extremly important point that despite this great business etc., they've won no trophies. The fans want silverware. PS: Didn't Arsenal record a loss like a week ago based on the financial year?}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 02:46:03
I still think the only player worth wearing a liverpool shirt. Would be Bastian Schweinsteiger. If we lose Gerrard or anyone else from that team. We really need a person that can pass a ball like Bastian Schweinsteiger

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 02:41:04
RE: What trophies has he won? That's what counts

It really annoys me when people say that about Arsen Wenger. He is one of the best managers in the world. He has won the Premiership, FA cup, turned arsenal into massive club. He has managed to improve the technical quality of the Arsenal Team while maintaining champions league spot within the last 5years. They have built a new stadium within the last 5years. Bought younger players in the last 5years. While teams like Liverpool have gotten wost within 5years. We have a old stadium, Almost went bankrupt, Managed to loss champion-league spot, lost 5 expensive star players less than they where worth.

Arsen Wenger - Arsenal

1997-98, 2001-02, 2003-04 Premiership Title
1998-99, 1999-2000, 2000-01, 2002-03, 2004-05 Runner Up Premiership 2nd
1998, 2002, 2003, 2005 FA Cup
2001 Runner up FA Cup
2007, 2011 League Cup Runner up
UEFA Cup Runners-up : 2000

Arsenal are still a very good team that will be even strong next year. Soon they will revenues matching Manchester Utd if they continue to improve. {Ed005's Note - Sorry but mentioning Arsenal being runners up in competitions counts for nothing. Plucking at straws. No doubt Arsene Wenger is a top class manager and has done wonderful things at Arsenal, but for such a massive club not winning a trophy in 5, possibly 6 years is simply not acceptable therefore it doesn't matter how little their team cost for the quality in it - it has produced zero to merit that. And we have an old stadium, but at the same time a historical stadium which the fans love. We nearly went bankrupt because of two owners - you forgot to mention that we are one of the most profitable clubs around.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 02:18:37
The arsenal Team cost 98.80MILLION

Robin Van Persie £2, 750,000
Nicklas Bendtner £200,000

Andrei Arshavin £15,000,000
Samir Nasri £15, 800,000
Theo Walcott £9, 100,000
Tomas Rosicky £6, 800,000

Cesc Fabregas Free (Poached From Barcelona Free 16year spainish unemployment law forbids 16year old signing professional contracts)
Denilson £3, 400,000
Aaron Ramsey £5,000,000

Lassana Diarra £4,000,000
Alexandre Song Billong £1,000,000
Johan Djourou £0
Vassiriki Diaby £2,000,000
Emmanuel Eboue £1,000,000

Laurent Koscielny £10,000,000
Sebastien Squillaci £4,000,000
Thomas Vermaelen £10,000,000
Bakari Sagna £6,000,000
Gael Clichy £250,000
Manuel Almunia £2, 500,000

ARSENAL TEAM NET £98.80MILLION

LIVERPOOL Season 10/ 11 £80, 450,000 Transfer Spend
Andrew Carroll £35,000,000
Luis Suarez £23,000,000
Raul Meireles £11, 500,000
Christ Poulson £4, 500,000
Brad Jones £2, 300,000
Danny Wilson £2,000,000
Jonjo Shelvey £1, 700,000
Yusuf Mersin £450,000
Paul Konchesky Swap
Suso Free
Fabio Aureilo Free
Joe Cole Free
Milan Jovanović Free

Why don't Liverpool just pay Arsene Wenger £20million in Cash to work for us. Im sure LFC would save it in the long run. Arsene Wengers transfer dealings have saved Arsenal £100 millions. Its amazing what he has done in the last 5years. {Ed005's Note - What trophies has he won? That's what counts.}

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 01:23:24
I honestly do not think Gerrard will leave before 2012!
Why would he leave right now?!
We're on a rebuilding mission now with Kenny, so it's exciting times for him & us!
He's the club captain, did you not see the way he celebrated Kuyt's goal in The Europa match the other night? He still loves LFC - no doubt about that!
I believe we definitely need to find a replacement of sorts in the next 18 months though - Coady hopefully, but it's probably too early for him yet!
Stevie showed positional discipline on Sunday vs The Mancs, which a lot of people said wasn't in his make up but clearly it is!
He is playing with a groin niggle so that is also keeping him back, that may have been at him for some time now, who knows - i have had a groin niggle for nearly 2 years now brought on by a trapped nerve in my lower back & i train 5 days a week when i can, but when its bad it's agony! Can barely move at times & i am the same age as Stevie G! I hope & reckon he will stay until 2012 or beyond & he is a legend of the club in my eyes. But Kenny without doubt is Mr. Liverpool in my mind! ! That man now has no equal at LFC in my eyes! I said a few weeks ago that if he could return us from the lower half of the league to near the top he'd overtake Bob & Bill in my eyes as our #1 of all time - he has in 2 months only & so Kenny for me now is the single greatest person in our history!
I for one feel privileged to have been a fan through both of Kenny's reigns & one day hope to tell my grandkids all about the the man, the legend, The King!
I'm not posting this in the hope people will agree / disagree with me - it is my opinion(s).
Sorry for the long post (again lol!).
Cheers,
Irish Kev.

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 01:01:21
In reply to below, do you think Sterling could be backup, very young I know but for a bit part player to get experience this chap seems to be quality and as a fourth choice I think it's worth bringing him through. He's young, English and better than Pacheco! Eds would it be too soon aged 16?

I don't know why people want new strikers. we've already gotten ourselves carrol and suarez. kuyt should be only used now as a back up striker with n gog back up for him

The more important areas are wingers . one midfielder and one good left back. so that's atleast four players there 2 wingers one cm and one left back. thoughts ed?

True Red {Ed001's Note - I think we need a back up striker more than a left back, Ngog is not good enough, or even close to being good enough, to even cover.}

yes we have to get a young one, a striker that is keen to play but that can wait and fight for a pace in the starting 11.or just Hoarau.

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 00:34:17
For mr personally Stevie leaving would be a massive loss for us. People have said on here on numerous occasions that we have to keep our best players if we are to challenge again. Stevie has not played well this season, we all know this. But he's still one of best players so if we let him go, who will we get to replace him?

We have another great backbone after the loss of Masch and Xabi. With Pepe, Lucas, Carragher, Agger, Kelly, Stevie, Raul, Carroll and Prince Luis. So why let Stevie go if he's a major part of our backbone?

Stevie has a persistant groin problem which has hampered his season. But I also think that with the impressive performaces of Lucas, Raul and Prince Luis, they have over shadowed the good work that Stevie has done, in the middle of the park.

Yes some people do not like Stevie the person, but to doubt Stevie the player and somehow forget what he has done for us in the last 10 years, is jusk incredible and to be honest sounds like somthing a Manc would say. But what do I know?

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

 

 

09 Mar 2011 00:28:55
Ed's - do you think Kenny can change Gerrard? If Kenny is Stevie's idol, Kenny would have some positive influence over the way Gerrard is around the club. I can't see Kenny putting up with such behaviour. I agree with a lot of other posters and hope Gerrard gets at least one other year. I think if Kenny can bring Stevie back, not only will he be awesome to have in the squad as a player, but also as a leader. I still believe he loves the club with a passion - I think he has lost something with all the garbage that has gone on off the pitch over the last few years. I hope we see a re-born Stevie next season.

LIVERPRES {Ed001's Note - if anyone can it would be the King.}

 

 

 

 

 
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