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09 Mar 2017 20:46:57
Eds reds just watching shalke v mgbach. i've read on here we are interested in nastasic abd kolsiniac of shalke - both playing well. Dahoud looks fantastic! ! Any news on these three players joining liverpool?
10 Mar 2017 15:40:35
We are interested in both Kola and Nasta BUT I think interest in Dahoud has cooled.
11 Mar 2017 00:51:26
Cheers noah.
09 Mar 2017 20:18:48
So just for a bit of fun with all the odd rumours flying around if there had to be a choice between can or the ox who would you choose?
09 Mar 2017 20:43:36
Can - we don't need the Ox thanks.
{Ed025's Note - emre can is the present day carlton palmer zimbo..no one can actually believe he gets paid to play football mate.. :)
09 Mar 2017 23:21:26
I've given him a fair bit of stick myself mate - fairly consistent said I'm not sure he fits in the 4-3-3 as he's not creative enough going forward or defensively sound enough for deeper role.
Having said that he's also had some good games, and tends to play particularly well alongside someone more mobile to complement him.
I'd be OK to see him leave if we get in a top deep midfielder, but likewise more thank OK to see him stay as he only 23 and there's enough there to potentially see him develop with time.
Ox on the other hand I see absolutely no need for. Has his moments but nowhere near reliable enough, poor attitude and doesn't score enough goals. Would rather see Wilson/ Ojo/ Woodburn given a shot.
09 Mar 2017 23:26:40
This from a club that has James Mccarthy and Aaron lennon.
10 Mar 2017 00:36:53
If we only listened to people that support the top 4 sides it would be would a boring world indeed.
09 Mar 2017 23:22:29
Easy Can. At least he has the chance to improve, i don't think Ox will.
10 Mar 2017 08:44:11
I'd rather take a gamble on Ramsey than Ox.
10 Mar 2017 14:17:19
Come on ed, that's harsh, especially coming from an everton fan - you lot are often known for your particularly skewed observations of players, especially your own😉
Can has been awful this season that is true, he has had a lot of good games for us though. The problem i have is that he hasn't improved in almost 3 years. He still cannot apply his talents better and more consistently and still has not improved on anything he is bad at. Furthermore i feel he is too similar to what we already have without actually fitting in well anywhere. Too unintelligent to play in hendersons or wijnaldums place, not skillful enough to play in lallanas, and still can't pass the ball beyond 10 yards. I feel he needs to go to a lesser club that suits the level he is at now.
10 Mar 2017 15:23:55
In a time when we have no character in our squad why on earth would we want to buy players from arsenal, where having nice hair comes before football, inconsistency keeps you in the team and 4th place is seen as a trophy.
10 Mar 2017 15:45:42
I wouldn't, Chills. Both as with Walcott, have stagnated at Arsenal just like their manager. I wouldn't touch any of them. I would keep Can as he has more upside than the stagnating Ox.
10 Mar 2017 22:11:29
Ox is the textbook definition of average. And that's being kind. He's not quick enough to be a winger, not clever enough or skilful enough to be a number 10 and frankly isn't a centre midfielder. Let him go to City or Man United and waste their transfer budget.
10 Mar 2017 16:48:21
It doesn't matter weather hebus good or bad. The point being we don't need another running midfielder. We have plenty. Can we have a deep lying midfielder or strong CM. Comfortable in possession and defensive aspects?
09 Mar 2017 13:18:04
Hi Eds,
I was wondering if anyone knew anything about freelance scouting in football.
I was talking to someone a while back who used to do some freelance scouting for a number of semi-professional clubs in the south of England.
The deal was that a club would come to him and say that they were looking for a LB from the local area. He would then recommend some left backs which he had been watching in the amateur leagues and he would get paid a fee for every successful signing.
For him it was just a bit of pocket money as he loved watching the amateur teams play and would've been at the games regardless.
However, would/ has this sort of system worked higher up the food chain. Are their freelance scouts who clubs approach to scout players for them, or have these been superseded by agents putting their own client's forward to clubs.
Cheers in advance Eds have a great day.
{Ed002's Note - I can't answer regarding semi-professional clubs in England but they will not do much scouting. For the senior professional clubs you will typically find there are a number of people that a club retains or employs regarding the "scouting" of players including a permanent Chief Scout and a perhaps a Head of International Scouting who all will report in to the club via a Director of Football or whatever. There is also be a guy who co-ordinates all of the reports and ensures that they go to the correct person. Obviously no one at the first team level is going to see or be interested in any reports related to kids so there is a hierarchy that deals with young kids, potential academy players up to the first team squad. There are then scouts retained (sometimes on a permanent basis, sometimes on a part time basis and sometimes on an ad hoc basis) by clubs to cover specific countries and/or areas of the world - France, South America, Adriatic & Old Eastern Bloc, Iberia etc.. On top of that there will be freelance scouts (often ex-referees and amateur club staff who will stay within their particular area of expertise and region). Once a player has been looked at a couple of times and reports reviewed, then someone from further up this chain will take a look. Eventually a chief scout will take a look, or if it is a potential first team player, then perhaps a coach or a manager will take a look. Some clubs also have advisors which include, taking one EPL side as an example, ex-managers or highly respected people within the game.
As a good example of this system - and one I know a decent amount about, there are a number of people that Chelsea retain or employ regarding the "scouting" of players including a permanent Chief Scout and a Head of International Scouting - Scott McLachlan - who all report in to the Director of Football. There is a guy called Matthew Hallam who co-ordinates all of the reports and ensures that they go to the correct person. Obviously no one at the first team level is going to see or be interested in any reports related to children. There are then scouts retained by the club in specific countries and areas of the world - France, South America, Adriatic & Old Eastern Bloc, Iberia etc.. On top of that there are both formal and informal "advisors" who often have an opinion to give - some of these are very well known people.
As for Manchester United, they will continue to look to appoint a Director of Football and have been working hard on trying to persuade someone to come - but it is proving to be a real struggle to sell the opportunity to him. Under him, they will seek to rebuild the scouting structure by adding new people and generally follow the model used by the likes of Chelsea. In the interim they have already started to make changes so they are working hard to improve.
Within the English game, particularly at lower-professional levels and with youngsters, scouts often include ex-managers and referees at that level.
With younger kiddies clubs often restrict their search area by distance - For example, Southampton has a fan shaped catchment area stretching out from Southampton and up to Swindon to the Northwest and the outer-reaches of the metropolis to the Northeast. Sunday league and youth games in this area will often see someone scouting on behalf of Southampton as they concentrate on local talent.
The London clubs, such as West Ham, have the benefit of two multi-tiered clubs that have developed numerous players who have gone on to play at the highest level - Chelsea, Spurs and West Ham have always had a good relationship with one in particular - Senrab.}
09 Mar 2017 18:04:32
Ed002 you really are indispensable to this site.
{Ed002's Note - As you get older stuff like indespensible, and the pads that go with it, become far more common Benny.}
10 Mar 2017 13:15:02
Absolutely cracking answer Ed002 and a great read. I second what Benny said!
Cheers very much.
{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}
09 Mar 2017 14:22:11
Hello fellow Reds. Quick question.
I'm going down to the match with my friend who is a Burnley supporter (sitting separately in the stadium) . What's the best place to grab a couple pints close to the stadium before the match? He won't be wearing Burnley colors or anything. I normally just go straight into the stadium when I go. Alternatively, what are the rules about open containers around the stadium? I've previously bought beers at the gas station close to the Main Stand and drank around that parking lot, but can you buy/ bring and walk around outside the stadium drinking? A pub or the sort obviously better if it's raining. Hoping to make a big day out of it. Thanks for any and all advice.
And oh yeah, let's freakin smash Burnley. Top 4 is right there. We just got to reach out and grab it.
YNWA.
09 Mar 2017 16:16:31
Definitely the Sandon. 1 minute from the stadium, very big pub, some eye candy behind the bar. Every time I go to a game I have a few drinks in their conservatory area before hand.
Cannot recommend it highly enough. Great atmosphere in there.
09 Mar 2017 16:56:13
The Arkles on Anfield Road is also good and your friend can wear his colours with no problem.
09 Mar 2017 19:07:46
I also recommend the Arkles for mixed company.
09 Mar 2017 19:38:44
Thanks for the feedback! Is the arkles an away supporters' pub, or just relaxed towards away supporters? For a Liverpool experience though, Sandon is better?
09 Mar 2017 20:11:52
If you want to get in with a bit of singing, go to the Albert. Personally, I meet with a load of guys outside of 'The Twelfth Man' (or, the Salisbury for the older generation) . Depends what you want really. All of the pubs will be very busy.
The Albert is pretty much next door to the Twelfth Man.
If you like it a bit rough, 'The Park'.
Hope you have a great time. If you see Kate Bush there, it's me!
Up The Reds. 😎.
10 Mar 2017 16:26:28
If I see you Kate I'll say what up!
09 Mar 2017 14:03:40
Accidentally hit send too early Eds. Any way I can edit before you all post?
{Ed001's Note - redo it mate and I will delete the early send.}
09 Mar 2017 14:12:05
Ok cheers.
{Ed001's Note - no worries.}
09 Mar 2017 12:18:52
Hi all,
With alonso retirement, (can't understand why) just wondering if any reds would have him back for a year.
I know edd001 will say about going back😉, But for me it would a great deal, as I still think he could do a job and can you imagine if we'd of had him in our squad this season. thanks.
{Ed001's Note - no point bringing him back now, but he would have been a fantastic addition for this season.}
09 Mar 2017 13:40:22
Would you rather have had Medel or Alonso for this season Ed001?
{Ed001's Note - Alonso is the best player in that position, but Medel offers more flexibility as he could have covered for injuries at the back as well. As Xabi is retiring, so would only have been one season, I would go with Medel for that reason.}
09 Mar 2017 23:24:01
Still surprised we didn't at least try to get convince him when he left Real. would have been the difference in 13/ 14.
09 Mar 2017 23:00:24
I would have taken him back as soon as Rafa got the sack. Dreadful decision to let him go regardless of the issues behind the scenes. Great player and even and a true gentleman.
09 Mar 2017 11:45:17
It's a bad state of affairs when we have a game coming up at the weekend against Burnley and i am more worried about getting a result compared to when we play anyone else out of the top 6.
09 Mar 2017 11:58:57
Burnley are rubbish on the road and regardless of that fact I honestly think if we don't win then questions have to be asked.
I'm sure we'll be fine tho, looks like couts has turned corner, mane is a machine, Firmino back.
🤞.
09 Mar 2017 12:51:36
without sounding arrogant, Liverpool should be beating burnley at home, no excuses.
09 Mar 2017 19:09:11
Leicester scored 3 after no league goals in 10 games.
09 Mar 2017 23:05:04
Pretty sure I read that same post on here before games vs Swansea, Wolves, Hull and the like and remind me of how those games turned out again, KK7?
Seriously, we need to dispense with this notion that we should be beating these teams. The PL has changed now and our mentality needs to change with it.
We all saw how Utd and City (both at home) stumbled vs Bournmouth and Stoke this week so we are in no position to run our mouths and be cocky about anything especially, with our dreadful record vs lesser teams of late. We should be ready to fight and claw for the three points vs Burnley cos they won't be easy despite their poor record away from home. It is such arrogant attitude that our players play with and as a result, show no belief nor desire to win such games.
10 Mar 2017 13:06:17
I agree with you Noah which is why this is the perfect game for the PLAYERS to prove they have learnt there lesson from those previous defeats, I would take a 1-0 win right now, its simply vital we beat burnley on sunday.
10 Mar 2017 15:19:04
Should we respect Burnley and play cautiously or play with pride and attitude and teach them some good footballing lesson? Not sure what people actually want from this team? This team should easily deal with the likes of Burnley.
09 Mar 2017 10:22:06
I would like to say what a player Alonso was and wish him the best . Great buy from Rafa.
09 Mar 2017 10:47:20
Pity he then stabbed him in the back to try and get . Gareth Barry.
09 Mar 2017 11:23:07
It's between him and Suarez for the best player I've ever seen play life. All the best to him and think he'll need the time off to arrange his trophy cabinet because it must be flooded!
09 Mar 2017 11:33:32
I don't blame Rafa the club was in massive debt and 27mil and what he was on was a lot of money back them,
{Ed001's Note - that was not why he was wanting to swap the two, as Barry was offered a similar wage.}
09 Mar 2017 11:59:40
Why did he want the swap if you don't mind me asking? Rafa seems a manager who is good at the technical side of the game (apparently man management is his big weakness), so surely it must have been obvious that Alonso was one of the best players in world football.
{Ed001's Note - Alonso had not been playing to his best following injury and Rafa had feared he would never return to his best. As for Barry, I have absolutely no idea why he wanted him, bad scouting, like so much of the dross he bought, I would suggest.}
09 Mar 2017 13:55:53
Alonso did have an absolute stinker of a season, the Barry bid failed, Xavi stayed and had a magnificent season the following season, but the bridges had been burned, sadly.
09 Mar 2017 13:23:36
Rafa wanted to sell him to Juventus the season before and for some reason the deal did not happen. Xabi then had the best season for us. Real came calling for him and he couldn't resist a chance to return. We got a good long and wasted it on Aquilani and all those now praising Lucas couldn't step into the shoes of Xabi when he left us.
09 Mar 2017 16:06:51
I think I remember rafa falling out with xabi when he chose to stay with his wife rather than play a champions league game. Don't know if that had something to do with him selling him.
{Ed001's Note - that was a big part of it yes.}
09 Mar 2017 16:10:26
Turn it in with the Lucas bit, honestly Harry you come out with some stuff sometimes mate.
{Ed001's Note - and what was meant by Xabi returning? He never played for Madrid before.}
09 Mar 2017 17:10:03
Alonso couldn't resist a return to Spain.
09 Mar 2017 23:16:16
No Harry. Alonso could not resist the fact that Rafa (for reasons only he can say) stupidly wanted him gone cos he stayed with his wife after delivery or cos he wasn't sure Xabi would recover well from injury.
We now know how well he recovered as we have seen the great success he's had since he left us. Real had nothing to do with it. They knew Rafa wanted him gone and swooped in and got him. We had a great team and Rafa broke that team up due to his arrogance.
Alonso NEVER wanted to leave us until Rafa forced him out in favor of the supremely woeful Barry, later replaced by the pathetic disaster that was Aquilani. Some world class manager he is. NOT! I always maintained even then, that Rafa should have been sacked for forcing Aloso out even then and I stand by my statement.
10 Mar 2017 15:28:13
Noah
Alonso had a dreadful season prior to his all time beat on a red shirt and like every manager Rafa feared for the player just like you want Sturridge to be replaced. You cannot slag of managers wanting a replacement of a player who wasn't hit either injuries.
Rafa didn't force him out. Give me a break. He wanted Barry who was pairing with Gerrard in the heart of that England midfield and trust me both Bary and Milner were outstanding for Aston villa.
Many players fell out with Rafa, From Albert Riera to Craig Bellamy. That doesn't make him a bad manager. In case then half of the Dortmund squad fell out with Klopp FYI.
I was in Asia when Liverpool toured for pre season and still remember the fans pleading for Alonso to stay amid his move to Real. ( Banners and quotes ) .
Alonso is my all time fav player. But facts are facts. Simple as that. You can't deny what happened.
We cashed in for Alonso and spend it on Aquilani who came in injured while we had Lucas who couldn't step into the heart of midfield.
11 Mar 2017 15:08:39
Harry, read Carras column in the paper today (unfortunately he writes for the Fail, but anyway! ) I'm certain he knows the situation a billion times better than you and he said Alonso left as Rafa didn't attempt to mend the bridges he had burned the previous season. If he had Alonso would've stayed, accordingly to a player who played with him and who is a Liverpool legend.
09 Mar 2017 07:27:55
Morning all, hope all is well I've wanted to post so often but have been really busy moving house and I've been away, finally all settled feel like I've missed loads of info 😠I need to catch up, anyway Chamberlain anyone?
{Ed001's Note - welcome back and please no! We have enough players with a poor attitude already at the club. We need some players with real desire and drive, the Ox has none.}
09 Mar 2017 08:33:15
Over 120 games for Arsenal and only 9 goals, No thanks.
09 Mar 2017 09:22:44
Good squad player but wouldn't be cheap. We need players which can improve the first team and I don't think he quite does that.
09 Mar 2017 11:15:05
Hey ed01, which players would you list as having poor attitude? I am not very observant, so I actually hold a high opinion for most members of the squad in regards of appliaction, though Emre has been irritating in a lot of matches by not doing his defensive tasks with enough vigour (last game excluded) .
{Ed001's Note - most of the squad have problems in that they get their heads up their arse thinking they have done all they need to after a couple of good results. That is why Henderson stands out, as he is one of the few that doesn't do that. In fact it is probably quicker to list those with a good attitude - Hendo, Firmino, Lucas and Couts. I am not including the kids in this, as they are still learning and their attitude will change over time if coached right and they mingle with the right type of players. Get the right influences around them etc and they can learn to not take anything for granted. We have far too many players shouting their mouths off on social media, in the papers etc but not backing up their gobs when it matters.}
09 Mar 2017 12:56:32
who needs action when you've got words eh ed001? lallana and mignolet are 2 of the worst in terms of mouthing off, all the talking should be done on the pitch.
{Ed001's Note - exactly. Arsenal are terrible for doing their talking off the pitch, then going into hiding on it.}
09 Mar 2017 13:50:19
Agree, personally never thought chamberlain should have joined Arsenal at the time but I do like him as a player I must admit, i can see a lot of movement for us this summer.
09 Mar 2017 12:58:45
And how many has Henderson scored for Liverpool? The fact OX has been a hit and miss and primarily used as a sub. He ran the show last night against Bayern. He is physically built and has pace. Better than Can but he is no specialist hence he is always used as a cover. Arsenal will demand big money and I am not interested to buy another "Jack of all trades" player.
We need one specialist CM, Either good in tackling / defensive aspect of the game or has a superior range of passing and knack of unlocking or splitting defense form that deep position.
If you want to spend, spend someone who would bench Henderson or Wijnaldum from first team.
I repeat a specialist.
09 Mar 2017 15:00:29
I wouldn't buy the Ox. We have so many youngsters coming through. I think we need a defensive midfielder in the mould of Leandro Paredes. Then we need to sign Jack Butland.
09 Mar 2017 15:36:17
Why would he cost a lot isn't he into the last year of his contract next season if he doesn't re-sign arsenal will look to recoup what they can £15m maybe.
09 Mar 2017 23:41:53
Parades and Butland would be good shouts Ron.
09 Mar 2017 23:45:36
We need players who will improve us and anyone thinking that Ox will do that, is deluding himself. He like Walcott, Gibbs and Ramsey, have stagnated at Arsenal and will only serve as as nothing but an expensive squad-filler so NOPE on him. By the way, if you are rating the Ox in a game where Bayern pretty much where playing without getting out of second gear then, I'm sorry but that makes no sense. Also, Ox is not better than Can even tho, Can has been here 3 seasons, still developing while Ox has been in the PL since for 6 seasons and won't get any better, IMO. I think both went toe to toe at Anfield and sorry but Can got the better of him and everyone in Arsenal's midfield.
09 Mar 2017 00:50:37
Was thinking today about how everyone goes on about our centre defenders and how we leak so many goals, maybe if they had more protection we wouldn't be leaking so many? Nearly all the best defences in the world have a defensive midfielder protecting them for example Chelsea - Matic, Juventus - Khedira, etc. Hope we sign a defensive midfielder this summer people say we leak goals to much and that is true for ever since mascherano left we have never had a decent defensive midfielder. Lucas had one great season but then fell apart giving away needless fouls just outside the box and couldn't get in the team, stevie in our title run never really made that many tackles just dictated the play from the back. I think Klopp should use his Dortmund formation the 4-2-3-1 next season. I think getting someone alongside Henderson to make tackles and protect the centre backs would be a great Addition and prevent us getting smashed on every counter attack against us. Can't think of many options but Danilo Peirera or William Carvalho would be great for example. What do you think eds? Do you think Stewart could step up even? Or Williams I heard you rate him highly in that position?
{Ed001's Note - they won't make it if they are not getting chances.}
09 Mar 2017 09:30:45
CyKlopps, a spot-on post in my opinion, the DM discussion comes along regularly on these pages but I think you'll find many feel we don't need one or that Henderson already is one. That's why we are heading for another 50 goals conceded this season, yet again.
{Ed001's Note - it is not because we do not play with a DM that we concede so many and putting one in the team would not fix the problem. So shortsighted to suggest that is the problem.}
09 Mar 2017 09:49:03
Ed a defensive midfielder that could protect the two centre backs when the full backs are the other side of the pitch would be a huge benefit.
{Ed001's Note - that depends on how we play. If you are playing with fullbacks then there is no need for a defensive midfielder to protect them as there would be enough players back. Even then, the defensive midfielder usually ends up slotting in between the centre backs to allow them to cover behind wing backs, which would still leave us with the issue that our centre half pairing do not like being dragged out wide. It would also not protect us from a keeper that gives no confidence.}
09 Mar 2017 09:51:09
I am not saying by the way replace henderson just simply play one alongside him in 4-2-3-1 and I am sure they would compliment each other very well.
{Ed001's Note - how would they? Just playing a DM there would mean they would be tripping over each other. It is not about just shoehorning the latest FM fantasy formation on the team. DMs are just a cover for a lack of quality, intelligent players who can defend.}
09 Mar 2017 10:22:39
I don't play fm ed I just watch a lot of other teams as well, I respect your opinion but I don't agree with it, many teams play that way and it works very well for example Dembele and Wanyama who compliment each other very well even though Wanyama is useless spurs are great defensively if we got a good defensive midfielder we would be more protected and leak less goals. Nearly every title winning team every season has one, Leicester had kante last season and chelsea had him this season playing alongside matic and i haven't seen them trip over each other once.
{Ed001's Note - have you watched Spurs play a lot? If so you would notice that their centre halves are comfortable at fullback, so do not mind being dragged out wide, while the defensive mids fill in the gap between them. We do not have centre halves comfortable out there, so bringing in a DM would not help, as he would just be another body in the middle. We do need more fight in central midfield, but not a DM, which Kante is not anyway, and nor is Dembele. The reason Chelsea struggled early in the season was because they played Kante as a DM and he was ineffective. He never played there last season for Leicester either, why does this crap keep coming up? Do people just not watch football? He played a central midfield role, a proper, old fashioned central midfielder who just used his athleticism to get around the pitch and get back when needed. That is why the Leicester coaching staff used to say their central midfield was Drinkwater in the centre and Kante either side of him. He is not, was not and will never be a DM unless you want half a player. Dembele is a playmaker, not a DM.}
09 Mar 2017 11:06:42
In my opinion there's no one quick fix to this as there's a number of issues, our keepers don't coordinate the defence or instil any confidence, this needs to be addressed. Our centre half pairings don't provide adequate cover to our keepers who already struggle with confidence and they don't Instil confidence, this needs to be addressed. Our full backs don't provide adequate cover, this needs to be addressed. Our midfield at times doesn't provide cover for any of the defence at times, this needs to be addressed.
I'm of the opinion that a player of the same mound as Kante would address one of these issues. A competent centre half to play alongside Matip will also help, full backs who are good at defending will also help and either a new keeper or a coach who is capable of improving our keepers is another step.
If we spent our entire window addressing these issues and nothing else I'd be a very very happy person. The likes of Goetze and whoever else we're linked with up front can surely be put on the back burner for a year - I'm working on the assumption Coutinho stays btw.
There's plenty of goals in the team as it is, it's our consistent leaking of goals over a number of years that needs to be put to bloody bed once and for all.
09 Mar 2017 11:28:43
Ed I don't disagree I know we do need another centre back that can be comfortable in wider positions, it is obvious already we are definitely going to be getting a centre half this summer but would a player who can break up the play, make interceptions, and protect the back not be a good addition as well? Fair enough you can call Kante a centre midfield but in my eyes he does everything a defensive midfielder does, breaks up play makes many interceptions and passes it on to more attacking players to to do the damage. I wasnt calling dembele a defensive midfielder at all I was comparing him to henderson as both are playmakers just dembele has a defensive midfielder in Wanyama beside him in the formation I think henderson could thrive in that formation and I think would work better especially against the lesser teams we find so hard to beat. I think you are missing my point.
{Ed001's Note - different system being played by Spurs, it is like comparing apples and oranges. We do not play the way they do, so we can't put out the same type of players they do. I wouldn't want to play the way Spurs do, it is effective in the main, but it is far too defensive and overly reliant on Kane.}
09 Mar 2017 12:35:14
Khadiera is not a defensive midfielder. If we target a CM this summer it has to be Naby Keita. This lad is like a Kante, A multi tasker and sheer quality.
09 Mar 2017 13:17:54
Did United ever play with one under Fergie?
09 Mar 2017 13:19:46
Dembele is much more than just a playmaker. He is in between a good DM and an excellent CM. Could do both the job given what is important. I have seen him playing behind an actual CM and ahead an actual DM. He is blessed. One of a kind
I love when the boss speaks about midfielders, One of my fav subject in the game. Kante is a mystery for people and football pundits who goes by the names rather than the poaitons. He could act as anything.
It is no secret that Klopp loves his full back to press high. Out latest crush ( Pierera ) is no defender. This means we will always need an extra body in the middle but Klopp doesn't want a mere stopper. He wants someone who could do more than just stopping a god damn football.
That is Why we need to offload Can for someoneline Keita or Kessie.
09 Mar 2017 14:30:04
Ed you said you would love us sign Gary Medel before is he not a defensive midfielder?
{Ed001's Note - nope. Just because he plays as a defender at times does not make him a defensive midfielder when he is in midfield. He is much more than that, more of a deep lying playmaker who also breaks up play. He is not as limited as a defensive midfielder.}
09 Mar 2017 15:07:40
I don't know how you want to label a player but we need someone who can prevent opposition midfielders from running at our central defenders unchallenged. We need someone who can intercept through balls which our centre backs fail to do.
Whatever letters of the alphabet you want to label them, we need someone to perform these roles. The current players are incapable, unwilling or not expected to.
09 Mar 2017 20:41:24
Sideing with ed001 on this one. The pure DM is a thing of the past. The player occupying space in front of the CBs needs to protect them, but also play some ball, and pose somekind of threat making forward runs. He needs to be able to move past a pressing opponent to give himself some more time on the ball. I'd say we should go all out for Keita in the summer, he'll be exactly what we need. Can see him and Hendo taking turns, or playing alongside eachother or Hendo being pushed forward. Would give us much needed flexibility.
Stewart I don't rate. Don't see him making the grade. No trickery, slow on the ball, dodgy passing at times.
09 Mar 2017 21:00:02
Paredes for me, he wins the ball and starts an attack. He reminds me a bit of Molby with his passing range and his ability to create time and space for himself.
Much better than Carvalho on the ball IMO.
09 Mar 2017 23:06:03
It seems many just want us to play the way other teams play without looking at the minor details regarding their formations, schemes and players vs our own. Klopp will NEVER play like Spurs or Chelsea so stop with the nonsensical comparisons.
Klopp's system does not use a DM, period. This is because the no. 6 in Klopp's system is required to be the quarterback that starts the play and be a safety (NFL defensive position) when we don't have the ball. At BVB, Klopp had Sahin at the no. 6 position and they bossed the league with while having the best defence, to the point that Sahin was voted player of the year in the Bundesliga. Sahin is not a DM and will never be one. He is a DLP.
We don't need a true DM in Klopp's system cos defensively, it is the team that attacks and defends together and we can see that it works perfectly judging by the Spurs and City games where we kept clean sheets. The goals we concede are due to individual errors and breakdown in communication as well as momentary bottle jobs by individuals. Can we do with a Kante-type CM? Absolutely as that is the CM we should be looking at to protect the CB's. Not a DM as that simply won't work with Klopp as Ed has exposed.
10 Mar 2017 12:10:41
Just like Paredes Noah.
10 Mar 2017 15:27:15
Klopp played Bender at BVB who is a DM Noah.