Liverpool Banter Archive May 09 2017

 

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09 May 2017 23:25:17
Hey ed002, hope you are doing well. Does Liverpool have any interest in ....

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09 May 2017 22:54:24
Did I mention the Ox? Oh yer I did a few weeks ago 👍.

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09 May 2017 22:52:00
Am I the only one ..................

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{Ed002's Note - You have no knowledge of the game or the truth about where everthing hangs right now. Like som many before you, you are b;laming someone else - embarrassing.}

09 May 2017 23:41:08
Good morning ed002 - ..........


{Ed002's Note - What a nasty little piece of worthless trash you are. You and the rubbish like you is what has dragged the likes of Liverpool down.}

09 May 2017 22:08:47
Not Liverpool related. but Ed02 ...

Jon.

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{Ed002's Note - Yes, as you say, nothing to do with Liverpool.}

09 May 2017 21:37:06
Slightly perplexed by some of the eds stating that klopp has been a failure? I vaguely remember him stating that he should win the league in hois first 3 or 4 seasons (hazy memory perhaps) .
This season has been frustrating at times, but are we not on course to finish a potential 16 points better off this season? Big improvement there.
I believe if we reach the top four, that would be a major step forward. But i would not be satisfied with anything less than a title push next season.

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09 May 2017 23:25:18
Many of the eds are not Liverpool fans bob and whether they would admit it or not will see things differently than us. It's football, everyone's entitled to their opinion, we can't say they are wrong and vice Versa. Besides, what is success? Again an opinion, I'd say getting top 4 this year would be a success, many would say only a cup only league is success. Who's to say? I'm happy with Klopp and looking forward to the next couple of games to hopefully secure that CL place!


10 May 2017 01:17:26
Great post.
Of course top is an improvement and I and I guess most others would have snapped it up, if it had been offered at the start of the season

The main frustration I have is that we can match or beat those teams around and above us, During them games we have played brilliant football and won or drawn.
but

Alas though we have come up short against teams below us.

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I am wary of West Ham who have been improving of late .

And Already relegated Boro have all the pressure off them now and will want to go out with a bang.
(Please not Downing)


10 May 2017 06:07:53
maybe look at it from the owners point of view, which is what i believe to be 'some of the eds' view. are they wrong? klopp was definitely hired to win the league. they want to win the league its simple.

if u look at it from a fans point of view, yes we have improved, and i only see little success if we atleast get top four. because that is a vast improvement in next seasons recruitment.

its just a different point of view.

successful season has to have a trophy in it, from liverpool's perspective.


10 May 2017 09:40:17
I think the season has been OK. A Champions League placing is a must and, if we achieve that, we can say progress is made. But to call the season a success? I think that is a little strong. Knocked out of a two-legged semi-final with Southampton. Knocked out of the FA Cup by Wolves. Still fighting for a CL place that we should have sealed weeks ago. Yeah to be honest it hasn't been that good - we haven't had European football so have had far more rest and recovery time yet have still, especially in the 2nd half of the season, under performed. 'Failed' is perhaps a strong word but I'm far from delighted with this season - if we get CL it will have been OK. If we don't do that then it will be a complete failure in my opinion.


10 May 2017 14:57:58
It's just a difference in opinion as far as the Ed's are concerned so NOT to bothered. It is the fans who by their own pre-season estimation thought we would be lucky to be 5th, then turned around and said we should have won the PL with the same squad they themselves said would be lucky to be 5th, is what I have a problem with.

You simply cannot work out that massive contradiction. They say our team has flaws in it which it does, yet thought we could win the league in spite of them. That is just nonsense. I never thought we could win the PL with all the issues in the team cos that was simply impossible and we are still seeing the issues right now.

Top 4 would be great as it is a massive improvement from last season. Could this season have been better? Of course. Has Klopp learnt lessons? He'd better have cos the issues with injuries and squad depth we have now had better NOT happen again. We go again v WH but first, we should all be Saints fans tonight vs Arsenal cos if Arsenal fail to win the we could go into the last game of the season knowing a win vs Boro will guarantee CL footie.


09 May 2017 20:37:24
I'd like to say well done to the lads LIVERPOOL FC at times we were scintillating and I know things got bad but I still feel quality wise and squad depth wise we are behind the other top 6, and still none of them have beat us, and whilst no UCL would be a hit though I hold hope, I don't know many fans from outside top 6 teams so no one can talk to me because they didn't beat us and that is sweeeeet!

Also thanks eds this site is awesome, i did read the post and really hope Keane isn't an option YNWA.

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09 May 2017 19:58:56
Thanks for the match review ed001!
Two points I would like to make, firstly what do you (and fellow posters) feel is the reason for the lack of movement and attacking intend in recent weeks. Do you think it's down to instructions from the coaching staff to try and improve the defence and the players have yet to find the right balance and are maybe being over cautious, or is it down to their over reliance on Mane? Secondly I have got to agree with you about the Milner penalty incident, quite embrassing how most of the team reacted to it. The only player who came to his aid was Coutinho. I only played the game at a low senior level, but if that had happened in my day half the team would have jumped in. Where was the big mean centre half or the midfield enforcer. The only leader we seem to have it Henderson. The only one to go anywhere near to Milners aid was probably the smallest player on the pitch. Unless the players fight for each other, what chance has the club. I think this is a very worrying sign.

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{Ed001's Note - I think it is both those two factors and the lack of a on pitch leadership driving them on. And thank you BB.}

09 May 2017 20:35:15
I'd rather go back to all out attack and let a few in because ATM it's dire. Really hard to watch.


09 May 2017 22:00:20
Spot on, Bobby. I played at amateur level in France myself and I had never seen that happen before that none of a player's teammates went in there to stop that nonsense. Milner was prolly not himself BUT he got NO help from any of his teammates apart from the smallest player on the pitch, which is disgraceful. Our team lacks leaders even tho players like Can, Matip and Lovren should be the ones taking that responsibility. One more thing to iron out in the summer, IMO.


09 May 2017 22:05:53
Milner had a few choices, he could simply have walked away, and not let the goalie try and intimadate him, he could have stuck up for himself, and not put his head down, and look like he was a the weak one, if the ref had been side on, while booking a player, he would have spotted that the goalie was in Milnera space, while also messing up the actual penalty spot . what happened is that with all the mind games Southampton got up to, they did indeed put Milner off, and his penalty kick was not good enough .


10 May 2017 03:15:41
he also had the option after forster had finished trash talking of electing a team mate to take the kick, meaning forster had just wasted his time with his mind games.


10 May 2017 11:34:36
What wound me up was that the linesman was standing 10 yards away from Forster and did absolutely nothing, didn't even notify the Ref of Forster's actions!

Linesmen really have become gutless over the last few years, I notice it all the time when I'm at the match (become a bit obsessed with it in truth) that they wait for the Ref to make the decision on which team is awarded a throw in before they raise their flag.

But in the end of the day Milner should have shown a bit of aggression back to Forster and stood up for himself and our big, physical players (Can, Lucas, Lovren, Matip, Can) should have come to Milner's aid and stood up to Forster too. I do think we are too nice, when was the last time our players got involved in a bit of handbags with the opposition? Klopp needs to get a bit of steel and fighting mentality into the players, its what Spurs have lacked for decades and Pochettino has instilled in them that has pushed them from also-ran's to challengers.


10 May 2017 12:48:10
well said scarface, we need a steve McMahon type player in the team, even brucie would have ran the length of the pitch to help out a team mate in that situation, we really need to man up and start fighting fire with fire, we cannot go forward with a soft underbelly.


09 May 2017 19:12:11
Studge to start in the next game for me. Origi unfortunately hasn't done enough to keep his place at this time.
Alternatively play Firmino up front but I'd prefer to give Studge his chance.

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09 May 2017 19:39:38
If Sturridge has only 2 games left might as well get the best out of him before he leaves.


09 May 2017 21:51:48
So he can get injured and not be sold an we can keep having the same problems with squad depth.

I love Sturridge but we have to let go it's like you're ex girlfriend was a 9on 10 now she what to a 5.


09 May 2017 21:54:53
I'd have started him last game - aswell as Lallana. How bad was Origi against Southampton - surely it's Sturridge to start at West Ham? We are Limping towards top 4. Do the players want really this?


09 May 2017 22:03:03
I don't think Studge is ready to start yet, IMO. I would play Lallana instead of Origi and put Firmino up top to press the WH defenders who are more than awkward with the ball then bring on Studge in the final 25 mins if need be later than that, to keep the defence honest if we're winning. Something has to change cos we seem scared to fail and with that mindset, we won't succeed.


10 May 2017 01:33:09
Origi
had an impossible task.
The team. Were that slow and lethargic in getting the ball to him and no one running off him to create space or give him an angle for a pass. As soon as he got the ball he was surrounded by the opposistions defenders and midfielders.

Lack of movement from players not in possession of the ball are as guilty as the young lad trying to hold it up for them.

And while I am at it I think Klopp has to have seen this a d should have done something about it rather than bollocking the 4th official.

The whole team and coaching staff were guilty of waiting for someone else to do something.
4 out of 10 for me.


10 May 2017 14:58:53
Brilliant analysis, Dermot. Many fans here and on other forums have been slaughtering him for not being like The Rock Dewayne Johnson and bulldozing his way through 3/ 4 defenders and scoring even tho he got NO help from his teammates and was hung out to dry in the midst of a ten man defence.

Now, they are saying he should be sold cos he has not played well. The question is who in the team played well in that game? NONE. But I guess he gets the brunt of the criticism cos you know, Studge who can't stay fit to save his life, was better (in 20 mins) than Origi whilst forgetting that defenders get normally tired at that stage hence some spaces start to open up.


10 May 2017 19:28:33
I agree.
A lot on here are asking why some of the U23s don't get brought into the first team.
Origi 22 years old and will have ups and downs for a while yet.

In my opinion he would score goals for fun at u23 level and everyone would be crying for him to be made up.
They can't have it both ways.

They are young lads, so live with it.

Whether a club our size should be dependent on a young lad is another point, but with Sturridge ongoing problems and Danny getting injured again long term that's where we are.

Klopp new about Sturridge and Danny's injuries but couldn't wait to get Bendeke out the door.


09 May 2017 18:33:05
Vote, Rafa back or stick with klopp?

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Rafa Klopp poll

09 May 2017 18:52:21
This is a joke isn't it? 😂😂.


09 May 2017 18:53:48
Bit of fun for Tuesday evening just curious as to what people think.


09 May 2017 19:07:29
Love Rafa but feel klopp fits LFC even more then mr Benitez did. Always wanted rafa back untill klopp came and i would have him back if jurgen left.


09 May 2017 19:26:56
Even I voted for Klopp.

Now if Klopp departed however.


09 May 2017 19:32:50
Landslide.


09 May 2017 19:41:18
Ok in a similar note, looking back would you have taken Klopp again or Ancelotti?


09 May 2017 20:30:40
Always got time for Rafa, but that no celebration thing was jarring that's my only criticism of rafa, klopp looks like he feels how I feel when we score, love that.


09 May 2017 20:35:45
Klopp.

Carlo improves good teams, Klopp build them.


09 May 2017 21:23:01
I love Klopp, but I'd have taken Ancelotti. He is a proven winner everywhere he goes. I trust Klopp to take us back to silverware though.


09 May 2017 21:36:28
I always thought Ancelotti would have suited United down to the ground. For style of play. Top players etc.

Klopp sometimes seems to ignore the obvious; regarding, the defences quality of play.
Times of substitutes etc.

But I think he's the right man for job at LFC although the club was premature in giving them a 5 year deal

Big season next year for Klopp, it's where it went pear shaped for Rodgers.


09 May 2017 21:52:14
Wouldn't Carlo improve Liverpool?


09 May 2017 20:05:06
Even if Rafa won the vote, what does that accomplish, exactly? Rafa left us nearly 10 years ago and in case you missed it, football has changed a lot since then BUT if you wanna stick to the past (a past where Rafa failed at winning the PL during his 6 year term) then have at it. The rest of us will stick with Klopp.


09 May 2017 22:08:30
Klopp for me, But he def needs someone streetwise next to him, as he makes far too many basic mistakes for a top manager .


09 May 2017 23:24:30
Carlo without a doubt. Better around manager. Klopp relies on man management and building up confidence in his players. I love Klopp and I try to be confident all the time and I am confident we will achieve top four but some of Klopp's decisions baffle me.


09 May 2017 23:42:13
Does anyone think Ancelotti is more tactically astute than? Klopp?


10 May 2017 06:34:09
Impossible to compare how tactically astute managers are unless they are in direct competition.
Ancellotti is an improver, Klopp is a builder.
Carlo goes to big clubs who are already doing well, rich on resources and on the cusp of success, tweaks them a bit, wins a few trophies then moves on.
Klopp is different. He'll come into clubs who need a re-build and are not resource rich.

Look at Carlo's recent clubs: Milan, Juve, Chelsea, Real, PSG, Bayern.
He wouldn't have succeeded at LFC as we've needed a rebuild.


10 May 2017 08:10:25
But Ron that doesn't mean Carlo couldn't do a good job at Liverpool. It doesn't even mean Klopp couldn't do a good job at Bayern.


10 May 2017 14:59:32
You are both right Razor and Ron hence, the comparison is pointless as footie is NOT an exact science, which is what we love about the game.


10 May 2017 21:36:14
But half the conversations in this website are about comparing one player, team or manager to another 🤔.


09 May 2017 18:23:48
New Ed002 Sharkopod about the latest Manchester United transfer rumours


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09 May 2017 18:31:32
Post this on the Man United page.


{Ed033's Note - You don't have to listen to it. Some people on here might be interested in what might be happening elsewhere.

09 May 2017 18:58:16
Will this make me jealous.


09 May 2017 20:59:16
I love football in general obviously not united but the fact I can get transfer news here too is quality, I have united freinds unfortunately loool so it helps the banter thanks eds.


09 May 2017 21:59:29
I think he was trying to make a joke ed. I look forward to listening to it when I get the chance!


09 May 2017 18:03:29
Ed1, if you're around mate.

Do you think our pursuit of a left wing is for someone to give us the same thing Mane does on the right?

And would that see Couts drop deeper and provide more cm competition? (Assuming he stays) .

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{Ed001's Note - to a degree yes. And yes, plus rotate further forward, depending on game, fitness and form.}

09 May 2017 19:10:09
we need to get bruma from galatasary will be a hell of a player for us any interest eds.


{Ed001's Note - I have not heard of any interest. Isn't he one of those with doubts over his age? I might be getting him mixed up with someone else though, only I seem to remember that was why he ended up going to Turkey as everyone else was unsure.}

09 May 2017 19:22:03
could well be ed not sure saying he's 22 on all sites i check i was thinking last nyt who we could get thought of him an now reports saying he's on strike haha very like mane but quicker .


{Ed001's Note - I am pretty sure he is from Sierra Leone and they had no birth records due to the civil war there. I could well have it completely wrong and be mixing him up with someone different. This is just a vague memory off the top of my head rather than a definite.}

09 May 2017 19:51:04
He was born in Guinea and moved to Portugal, I have no idea if there are concerns over his age though. He has been linked with Southampton, Spurs and Unt and is a tricky left winger so we have probably looked but like the above poster has said he is on strike at Gala at the moment and was hooked after 18 minutes in one match this season.


{Ed001's Note - so no though, different player I was thinking of. Thank you.}

10 May 2017 06:43:19
Looks like one of those "right footed left wingers" who likes to come inside onto his right foot a lot.

We need left footed left wingers who will provide width. We already congest the middle too much, that's part of the problem.


Liverpool v Southampton Match Review - A Liverpool Perspective

09 May 2017 18:07:54
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Liverpool v Southampton Match Review - A Liverpool Perspective

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09 May 2017 21:11:28
Great article can't complain about any of it I find wjindalum baffling sometimes and your right no one came to milners assistance when fraser forrester began his intimidation tactics coutinho tried but he's tiny, do you think we're to over protective of grujic? or do you think klopp wants him to get a fresh start next season, he looks quality I'm not saying straight in 1st team but he does add something different for me an exciting prospect.


{Ed001's Note - I would like to see him at least get subbed on earlier. It is just not giving him enough time to get involved.}

09 May 2017 15:36:57
Now we are being linked with Mo Solah again, love this time of year.

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09 May 2017 15:59:52
TBF He has been sensational for Roma.


09 May 2017 17:11:41
The egytian messi/ zola/ mane?


09 May 2017 17:24:08
Could be Mo Farah? He'd press all day long! He'd be the only player in Europe who could out last Kante anyway.


09 May 2017 17:50:52
So we then have two winters who could potentially be at the ACON? Makes zero sense.


09 May 2017 18:07:03
Salah has been excellent since he has moved away from Chelsea.


09 May 2017 18:09:52
What's the big friggin' deal with the AFCON? It's not until 2019, and it's not like every one of our competitors doesn't have the same issue to deal with. People can accept a potential 2-6 week injury layoff every season, but not a 2-6 week potential absence for the AFCON every two years, and then use it as grounds to not buy a player who might just make a difference? That's what makes zero sense.


09 May 2017 22:06:37
Spot on, Ra. Other leagues lose more African players all the time to the AFCON oh wait, this is the exact reason why the AFCON was moved to the winter months in the 90's (in order to have their players released) as all other leagues have a Winter break and the PL does not.

Maybe it is the PL that has to change it's MO instead of choosing not to sign African players cos their too rigid to join the rest of the continent in observing a winter break OR get enough depth in your squads to make up for their absences.


09 May 2017 13:59:57
why has our home form deserted us just when we needed it most? its a good job we have picked up those away wins but of course the frustration is that due to our lack of home form ( 0 wins in 3 winnable games since winning the derby) we are limping towards the line instead of already booking our place in the champions league.

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09 May 2017 14:09:23
No Mane and the team looks tired to me.


09 May 2017 14:43:16
Coz away team sit back and make it hard to break the wall unlike when we travel the opposition is in front of their home crowd and play little bit more open. We aren't omen dimensional.


09 May 2017 14:48:13
Culmination of injuries catching up with the team, tiredness, nervousness and teams dropping everyone behind the ball to frustrate us because others have had success with playing that way.


09 May 2017 15:45:08
Spot on, Scarface. It is mixed bag of "goodies" that have plagued us of late. I will say that 13 of or 20 wins came vs lesser teams many of who parked the bus (even on their home turf) against us. At home, we need pace and quality from the flanks (RB's and wide men) and that is not happening right now and makes us easy to defend against. This is where we need to find solutions in the coming two games cos I see WH doing (even at home) that and Boro as well.


09 May 2017 17:48:29
I do agree that it's a culmination of a few things catching up with us but I don't think the buck just sits with the players and I certainly don't feel 'tiredness' is the main issue. If players are that fatigued given a week off between games then they are not proper athletes, so again I doubt that is the main issue. The main problems have been preparation and tactics against certain opponents and injuries. When the same thing repeatedly happens against the same type of opponents then it has to be something more than just the mentality of the players. Either way we are away next game, and then relegated Middlesbrough at home, if we don't take all 6 then we don't deserve top 4 and if we don't get top 4 this season is a big failure. So very important couple of weeks for the future of Liverpool, some players and Klopp.


09 May 2017 17:58:19
Agreee with Ron, klopp wearing them out in training maybe?


09 May 2017 19:44:07
The players may look a bit weary but I think it's more of what has already been said on these pages: tactical changes such as less pressing, less interchanging among the forwards, slower passing and an overall more controlled cautious game. I'd add the big gulf in quality between the starters and the bench, too. We're susceptible to fast counterattacks and maybe Klopp no longer wants to see the "LFC self-destruct once again" headlines anymore? So we're getting a dose of slow "grind it out" end-of-season games.


09 May 2017 20:22:13
Players are more nervous than tired.
They appear to be too scared to concede on the counter attack and that's affecting their movement further up the pitch.


09 May 2017 22:07:13
Spot on Ra and Supermane. A season is a grind and the organisms are starting to tire which is normal. This is why mental toughness is key at this latter stage of the season cos you have to just survive the grind which may be what Klopp has decided to do especially with the notion that he may NOT want to see us self-destruct again like we did last season at Basle. It is a tough one for him and I am sad for him BUT he's the manager and it is his job, as well as the players ' and ours as supporters, to push them over the line cos they're going to need us more than ever come Sun and next weekend.


09 May 2017 22:03:14
3 reasons for me for the last 90 mins of drivel. No width. Didn't start Studge. Didn't start Lallana.


09 May 2017 13:38:58
I'm sorry ed002, you can carry on saying klopp isn't as good as Liverpool fans say he is what you have to understand is Liverpool have had one top four finish in the last 8 odd years and this man has nearly got us back there in his first full season.

He already has given us come quality memories in the big Dortmund come back, got us to two cup finals in his first year - now ed002 you would be right to say that he failed because we won neither of them, but for fans of a club who have been ridiculously mediocre over the last decade or so, it's nice just being involved.

So I don't know why you were expecting him to win the league or even challenge for it in his first year, we don't have the word class players Chelsea have, we don't have the depth that Tottenham have, they are 2 very very good teams that have finished above us, and as far as I'm concerned klopp said judge me after 3 years, and I'm willing to give him the time.

The fact is ed Liverpool football club has shown large amounts of progression under klopp.

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{Ed002's Note - (a) It is his second season - it is slightly embarrassing that some football fans fall back on the feeble excuse that last season was just transition. (b) I recognise that the Liverpool fans like to celebrate failure now - it strikes me as strange but there you go. (c) It is nothing to do with Chelsea or Spurs. It is about Liverpool. Klopp saidd he could win the league with the players he inherited and would need to make little or no change - that he what he promised FSG - maybe he is that naive and knows little of the game - else he was lying to the board? (d) I am suire you will give him endelss amounts of time as you appear to have been taken in by his persona.}

09 May 2017 14:24:54
Ruthless, Ed02 is right as to what Klopp told the owners and why he would tell them that in spite of the big holes the squad has, is baffling to me as that is simply naive or over-promising at best. Bringing other teams into it is just pointless, really. Klopp is NOT perfect and that much is clear and you can disagree with Ed02 all you want BUT you cannot disprove his/ her facts. And by the way, I am a HUGE Klopp fan.


09 May 2017 14:13:17
I thought THIS season was the transition? 🤔
Last season was the "free hit".
Next season is "our year" 🏆

I think secretly, deep, deep, deep down ed002 has a little man-crush for Kilpperty 😉.


09 May 2017 14:21:12
ed if we get top 4 this will be a good year for us. we have finished in top 4 once in 7 years. it is progress. yes klopp has a lot to learn with regards how he uses his players and the fact he relies on one style of play but he is what we have and we must stick by him. where have we celebrated failure? one team can win the league and it looked good at the start of the season then we dipped dramacially for a number of different reasons but we have to hope given money to spend he will get it right in the summer and allow us to compete with a larger squad
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{Ed002's Note - It will be a good year for the fans who celebrate failure but not for the club and certainly not for the owners. Vast amounts of money has been spent. The squad is constrained by size - Liverpool does not have a small squad.}

09 May 2017 14:23:05
Please tell why they give him a new contract.


{Ed002's Note - Because they were taken in by the persona.}

09 May 2017 14:45:27
Klopp is extremely limited as a manager but has that charisma to win fans and people outside. One of the reason people lor him. He wouldn't lace the boots of Rafa.


09 May 2017 15:31:10
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{Ed002's Note - It is astonishing the number of Liverpool supporters who change their names to be abusive to the Eds. Another embarrassing post.}

09 May 2017 15:42:31
Plot twist ed002 was once taken in by klopps persona and charm (smiling clown act) and made advances toward the charismatic German offering to help and advise him with certain things only to be rejected and shunned like mama sakho.


09 May 2017 15:45:37
I actually think if we qualify for champions league and he had the lure of CL football for potential targets then next year is the one he needs to deliver.
Yes he made a massive error talking up of winning the league to the owners, should of kept his mouth shut on that one.
But that aside I tho k taking that squad of players and into the champions league would be a step forward that we needed as we as fans should be realistic about the expectations of winning the league with the squad we have had and the fact we haven't won the damn thing in over 20 years.


09 May 2017 16:08:43
I've said it for years, Rafa is the one we need. Under him we were playing in quarter, semis and even finals of the Champions league. Now we even struggle to qualify.

He knows the quality players we need as well, if not restricted by dickhead owners (I can see trouble ahead with Ashley) .

I know he can be stubborn and could have handled the Xabi Alonso situation better but, tactically, he is light years ahead of Klopp.

I think we need to give Kipperty another year or two but, if he doesn't come up with the goods, I hope they bring back Rafa rather than than gamble on anyone else.


09 May 2017 16:09:44
Who cares what he told the owners. why is this continually mentioned? no one cares what he promised the owners. they have yet to deliver on a few of their own promises after years at the club. Put it this way, i doubt they'll be showin Klopp the door after delivering Champions League with little or no net spend.


{Ed002's Note - The owners care. Klopp will certainly care. Nobody is suggesting they will sack him - they can't afford to.}

09 May 2017 16:49:58
It's a good point Emre 👍.


09 May 2017 16:51:34
Too right they cant, its all about opinions i suppose! where you see a poor coach i see someone who is sorting the club out from the youths right up to the first team.


09 May 2017 17:12:38
You don't think Fsg are "a little naive" to think that Klopp could win the league with this team and little investment Ed002?


{Ed002's Note - No, I think Klopp was naive to say it or a liar.}

09 May 2017 17:16:53
Also i teally find it astounding that these very astute businessmen were taken in by Klopp's "persona". Off course they were also taken in by Brendan's dossier. I think there are bigger issues at LFC than Klopp's shortcomings as a manager.


{Ed002's Note - What would they be? The repeated tapping up scandals, the latest court case, the club being the most punished in Europe last season because of the fans?}

09 May 2017 17:36:19
Arguing with ed002 about Klopp is like mud wrestling with a pig. Eventually you realise the pig is enjoying it. Leave him to his wives and enjoy the insight he brings to this site.


09 May 2017 17:38:01
Sums up how violence and racial abuse are tolerated in some of the other larger leagues of Europe if we are the most punished.


09 May 2017 17:49:12
All who disagree with my post, if Klopp flops, who would you realistically want to replace him if not Rafa?


09 May 2017 18:38:44
Klopp is what we got and despite his failings, which all managers have might i add he is getting us back into the champions league. We were also playing the best football i have seen us play in years at the start of the season and that includes the yr we came second under bodgers.

Im no klopp apologist and i critisise him when he deserves it but i am also unashamed to say i am a klopp fan.

Will he get it right, i don't know but i have learned to enjoy the journey and not just the outcomes. Ed02 quite rightly has his opinion on klopp but don't see the need for outrage, just agree to disagree and i am also unashamedly an ed02 fan. and ed01 and ed25 and well you get the drift.


09 May 2017 18:51:00
He's doing exactly what he did at Dortmund, think it took him 2 years just to get them back into europe there. it wasnt success straight away. he'll continue trimming the squad and adding better players while leaving room for the youngsters to come through.


09 May 2017 22:08:56
Exactly, Emre and Coming. But I guess he must be a failure cos he did not win the league in his first full season cos clearly all the other managers at LFC have done that in the PL era, right? Total nonsense.


09 May 2017 17:41:46
All of the above Ed002 and also the constant failing of the owners not to learn from past mistakes. You said it yourself, a 6 year contract, taken in by Klopps Persona, taken in by the promises of one man which in reality is "pie in the sky". Tell me, before Fsg's ownership did Liverpool have as many of these "issues" that you have brought to our attention? You have admit Ed002, they are amatuers when it comes to the running of a football club?


{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has changed owners like Chelsea changed managers for a while. FSG has given stability but there is constant pressure to make changes and periodic threats. That is disruptive and the reason why other teams have the jump - and don't have an annual transition. The owners have done well in general terms but have been naive. They have suffered at the hands of the fans so that has disrupted the way forward.}

09 May 2017 18:51:18
By when exactly did Klopp promise FSG he would win the league?

FSG extended Klopp's contract to 2022 less than 12 months ago. That suggests to me that FSG will, to an extent, be patient in allowing him to develop a squad that achieves his promises. Giving him a new six-year contract and demanding he wins them the league immediately seems unlikely.

Top four is a realistic step forward. Most fans will be happy with that for now, and I'd be amazed if most associated with the club weren't as well.


{Ed002's Note - That was the promise when he got the job - don't look for excuses all of the time - it is exteremely embarrassing and something we see over and over from Liverpool supporters.}

09 May 2017 13:32:42
Apparently Klopp looking at Southampton's Romeu as a potential replacement for Lucas if or when he goes. what's Eds opinion on Romeu.

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{Ed001's Note - good player.}

09 May 2017 13:45:41
Where would he play though? We already have Hendo and Can to play in his position even if Lucas goes. And are we not looking at Keita as well?


09 May 2017 13:57:35
Great if there's any truth in it, be a good start to transfer dealings!


09 May 2017 14:25:18
Very good player. As for Hendo, his heel condition is worrying and we cannot wait for him to get healthy and play a run of games due to this. He needs to be eased back in and Romeu is the type of player we need.


09 May 2017 14:47:37
Hendo is not a stopper and shouldn't play at the base ( he has no attributes to play that deeper role) Romeu is a decent player but why not Stewart? They will replace Romeu with Stewart and in two years we will buy him back. It would a joke!


09 May 2017 14:58:36
Got to be honest, this is getting a bit embarrassing now! Every season we just go back to Southampton and sign a player or two off them for a massively inflated fee. Yes Romeu looks a decent player, will he transform us. probably not. If this is true then we clearly learn nothing, Romeu is a decent player but again he plays well because of how Southampton set up, we have plent of players who can get a foot in and pass it sideways, we don't have enough ball carriers with pace who can dribble past players and play clinical passes. We need better than Romeu and hopefully it's just paper talk.


09 May 2017 15:13:35
Henderson is finished imo.


09 May 2017 16:23:07
Benny, while I'm hoping you're wrong, what you're suggesting may actually happen. It's a permanent condition and bringing him on and off the field according to the condition of the heel throughout the season, may actually become a disruptive influence rather provide any benefit to the team's performance. It's a pity. Just yesterday there were posts about players from decades ago, and I would place Henderson right in there with some of the toughest, most dedicated and professional of LFC players. But a long term injury is just that, and not much can be done about it.

In terms of the OP, if Lucas leaves, then he definitely needs to be replaced. We need a holding player to face certain teams and styles of play. I'd go for Oriol Romeu without any doubt. He was well rated at Barcelona (but blocked by Sergio Busquets to the first team), and bought by Chelsea to replace a certain Michael Essien. Maybe he's just finally hitting his stride because Barcelona supposedly want him back.


09 May 2017 16:52:26
I've not seen it with this lad, nothing more than bog standard and Saints would rinse us for every penny again.
Paredes looks like a better player to me.


09 May 2017 17:50:33
Cheers ra. Basically summed it up for me, because I was to lazy.
He is a back up player now, and the sooner klopp pulls of the bandade (remove captaincy) from him, we can move on. Romeu is actually class. Reminds me of medel but better in the air.


{Ed001's Note - he is nothing like Medel, doesn't have the range of passing and is far worse in the air. Medel is excellent in the air, particularly for his height, Romeu's heading is something he himself admits to be a weakness. Medel is a playmaker, Romeu has not got the vision or range of passing for that. He is excellent at breaking up play, but lacks a lot in setting up play.}

09 May 2017 18:55:27
Good player but since we get linked with any half decent Saints player, I won't get too excited until I see something solid materialise.


09 May 2017 13:20:46
Very Disappointed with Origi lately. I am one of his biggest fans but he hasn't taken his chance since Mane got injured. At his age he should nearly be coming into his prime near 23. I hope he makes it in time. But I would rather see sturridge or Firmino as striker for next game.

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09 May 2017 13:33:18
Calm down, he lacks consistency but he's actually just turned 22. He's 4-5 years off most players' prime. He's done okay when he's played but I'm sure next season he'lol progress further.


{Ed001's Note - in the position he plays, experience is everything.}

09 May 2017 14:26:54
Spot on, Swisch, The last CF who was tearing it up at 22 was Rooney and even he needed time to develop as Ed said cos experience is everything in the CF position. I agree that he has not been great BUT we should NOT write him off cos we have seen what he can do when on form. He is simply unplayable. He is struggling being isolated up top with no help and BTW, he is not the only one struggling cos everyone is including the manager. I do agree that Lallana should start and Firmino should be back up top to give him a blow cos he needs it. Will Klopp do it? We shall see.


09 May 2017 17:31:12
To be fair N red, Kane and Lukaku both scored 20+ goals at 22.

I think this is the issue though. Everybody thinks that all players progress at the same rates. At 22 years old Owen was winning Balon D'ors and Drogba was unheard of. At 30 Owen was a nobody and Drogba was scoring in CL finals.

There is no point comparing players and using age as the primary support for your argument. Every player is different. It's about sporting the raw talent.


09 May 2017 13:08:42
Grujic looked quality for the under 23s against everton. I hope he gets a decent run/ chance next season. Also taa needs to be in the first team. Already looking forward to next season. YNWA.

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09 May 2017 13:46:13
he could still have a part to play this season, he has the attacking instinct our current midfielders lack, he could be very useful for us vs west ham.


09 May 2017 14:28:53
I think he should be earmarked to be brought on from the subs bench cos he is big, strong, has a great shot and very good in the air. We need all the help we can get right now.


09 May 2017 11:24:11
Ed01 was just wondering what you think of Brendan Rodgers? I think back when he was our manager you may have said he was an excellent coach just a very bad manager? I think we didn't do too bad under him we played some great football but also some very bad days that I would much rather forget (stoke) . He has gone to Celtic and won Manager of the year in his first year and won the league by a long shot. Do you think he has what it takes to make it at a big club again?

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{Ed001's Note - well Celtic are a big club to be fair. In a competitive league though, no. He still is far too fond of talking about himself and making everything all about him. It will cause the same problems it caused when he managed us, with players getting annoyed with always being to blame for anything bad, while never getting any credit for doing well.

We have still to see if he has learnt in the transfer market as well. Will he swamp the Celtic squad with attacking midfielders and buy lots of players who are not quite good enough, or will he keep the additions down? Basically, what I am saying is that it is far too early to tell if he has learnt anything. Right now he is getting by on being an ex-Liverpool manager gracing the little SPFL, so to speak. With no competition to speak of, there was no chance of that bubble bursting immediately to see what he is actually about.}

09 May 2017 12:59:47
We all knew he was Gona win the league with celtic. He's done that to get some trophies on his cv and then talk his way into a bigger job. Ed is spot on with his assessment. Think we could all win the league if we were in charge of celtic tho.


09 May 2017 13:10:46
Thanks ed for the reply ed. I wasn't trying to call Celtic a small club or anything. I think he would make a good coach ed with an experienced director of football under him. I don't like him as a person if I'm being honest after letting Pascoe and Marsh basically take the blame for his poor management by giving them the sack.


{Ed001's Note - that was extremely distasteful, Pascoe was meant to be a good friend of his. Shows a lack of loyalty.}

09 May 2017 14:32:20
BR is still who he is and that has not changed. Neil Lennon won a hatful of trophies at Celtic and actually had a good record in the CL with them. Where is he now? BR has not changed cos he prolly thinks he is better than he actually is cos he won trophies in a league my granny would win if she was manager.

He will milk the fact that he nearly won the PL with LFC all the way dry even tho, he is a woeful manager and even a more distrustful person with what he did to his assistants to save his skin. Pathetic lack of dignity, honor and loyalty from him.


09 May 2017 11:38:02
I think we saw how to play against a team who parks the bus last night, quick forward passes rather than side to side as that gives teams time to ajust.

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09 May 2017 13:36:27
Middlesbrough are a far poorer side than Southampton. Hopefully they won't pose us any problems but will
Probably have the game of their lives!


09 May 2017 14:22:37
Quick forward passes will penetrate any defence, the issue is how to play quick forward passes against deep-lying defences. Liverpool were passing side to side because they weren't creating enough space for themselves to play quick forward passes. Origi's movement in particular was just pants. Forward players need to move around, run in behind the defence to drag the defenders around in order to create options for quick forward passes. This then creates space for fullbacks to overlap. Our fullbacks are far from the greatest offensively (well Milner would probably be far more effective on the right), but it would still give them more bite.

Just look at what Chelsea did. All of their forwards were moving around, and then it let their fullbacks have an influence with their overlapping. Alonso had one of his best games of the season.


09 May 2017 14:35:26
Spot on, Swisch. Say what you like BUT Southampton have a very good team with quality players that I wouldn't mind at LFC, really so comparing them to Boro is unfair. They showed a bit that when pressed on Sun, they can pass their way out of it and this may explain why Klopp adopted a cautious approach rightly or wrongly.

They can play good football when they want to BUT they have admitted that they cannot go toe to toe vs us hence, they revert to bus-parking tactics. They did not park the bus vs any of the top 6 BAR us which tells you a lot.


09 May 2017 17:27:31
Swish, a bit early for making excuses. Boro will only be good if we capitulate like we've done so often since end of December, enough excuses, we throw the top 4 away now and we are a disgrace players and manager. there's enough teams falling over themselves to give us top four like Utd, arsenal and City and we are the ones who haven't grabbed the chances.


09 May 2017 10:29:27
Hi Ed001,

I was just wondering what you think will happen with Danny Ings next season?

Also, your opinion on him as a player and how you think he would fit into our current team would be very much appreciated.

All the best, hope the medical goes well, you'll probably meet Danny Ings in the treatment room!

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{Ed001's Note - he will spend most of it getting his fitness back mate, so nothing much will happen with him. He might well get an odd appearance in the cup and subs but nothing major.

I like him as a player, though I still have worries over his decision not to take penalties at Burnley. While he is never say die non-stop running, we need leaders and leaders do not shy away from difficult moments.}

09 May 2017 11:04:05
I never knew about the penalties issue. Although I would be tempted to give him the benefit of the doubt until I have seen more of him.

He was still very young and perhaps didn't feel like penalties were his strongest suit and that other people would be better.

However, coupled to the fact that he didn't want to take the number 7/ 8 when joining us it does allude to a concerning side of his personality.

Hopefully Klopp can give him the belief to fulfill his potential.


{Ed001's Note - he was the penalty taker at Burnley but asked not to take the penalties when it was known he was leaving. So he obviously did feel penalties were his strong suit up until then.}

09 May 2017 11:19:38
That's a very odd decision then. I wonder why.

He does seem to like to avoid pressure. When he joined he said he wouldn't take one of the low shirt numbers because he wanted to take the pressure off.

I would've hoped that a young player getting his big money move to one of the biggest clubs around would've meant he wanted to prove himself and thrive under the pressure.

Guess we can only see how next season goes.


09 May 2017 14:00:47
He was probably out of practice, I mean how many penalties do Burnley get? They never have the ball in the penalty area 😄.


09 May 2017 15:14:54
I don't mind the penalty thing - if it's not your thing then I don't put too much on that myself. The real issue I have is I think he's a hard working player, a top bloke and a very useful striker, but is he really good enough to play regularly?

It's going to be a long wait for him to be able to prove that either way unfortunately, which means behind Firmino we're left with Sturridge (injury prone), Origi (learning) and Ings (recovering) .

Unless Klopp is really going to 100% back Firmino to play as our lead striker, I think we really need someone reliable that can lead the line. Chelsea have Costa, Tottenham Kane, Man utd Ibrahimovic and Man City Aguero. by comparison Arsenal have suffered too long for not investing in a top CF to lead the line.

We should not make the same mistake.


09 May 2017 09:52:27
hey eds just wanted your opinion on ryan babel as a player and his liverpool career.

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{Ed001's Note - I have not long answered this question. He was too busy with his music to concentrate on footie and lost his way completely. Not even technique and he lacked concentration on the pitch.}

09 May 2017 10:47:21
Its a real pity as he had all the qualities to be a smashing player.


09 May 2017 11:10:47
Remember watching him against England u23 before we bought him and he looked like the next theiry Henry ended up more like Lenny Henry.


09 May 2017 14:39:34
Spot on, Jamesey. I even saw him before that at the U20 World Cup in 2005 (class of Mikel, Senderos, Fabregas, Llorente, Juanfran, El Zahr, Zabaletta and a certain Lionel Messi) and he was class there too. Sad he lost his way.


09 May 2017 08:36:43
Found this havening a google, Very Interesting.

"Before Sunday's game against Southampton, current Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp and ex-boss Brendan Rodgers had identical Premier League records after their first 65 games in charge of the Reds: W33 D18 L14 (117 points) .

We know Klopp drew his 66th game against Southampton.

How did Brendan do?

He won his. "

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{Ed002's Note - Up to now Klopp has been behind the curve in comparison to Rodgers - you shoud be pleased about this.}

09 May 2017 09:23:57
To be fair Brendan inherited players like Gerrard, Reina, Agger, Carragher, Henderson and Suarez.

Klopp inherited Brendan's mess.

You cannot compare different seasons anyway. As well as the above, Brendan was also competing in a league where Man United was managed by Moyes and LVG, Everton were managed by Martinez, Spurs were nowhere near being a good side and relied 100% on Bale etc.

In the last 2 seasons we have seen the level of competition in the Premier league go through the roof. When the likes of Crystal Palace, Stoke and West Ham can start paying £20m for a player, the competition will always be tougher.

What matters really is how we perform against our rivals season by season. Rodgers and Klopp have very similar records right now. Great. Both had a title challenge in their second season which petered out into mere CL qualification. Where we see Klopps true ability is next season. Does he completely flop in the Champions league and finish outside the top 4 again like Rodgers did? Or does he kick on and improve? That is what really matters. Rodgers started his career here very well. It was the dross which followed 13/ 14 that got him canned. Not his first 2 seasons. So this comparison is mute really.


09 May 2017 09:42:04
I would rather compare them after 122 games. And also compare their records in cup competitions.


09 May 2017 09:46:02
Agree very difficult to compare - Rogers had a fantastic run for a while, where SAS nearly delivered the title, but then he fell apart when he tried to remodel the side (buying in players like Balo and Benteke which were very different styles to previous season) . Those last set of results, like the 6 goals we shipped against stoke, were just abysmal and there was no faith left in the squad.

Klopp on the other hand took over a team in poor shape, and while he has made some mistakes, he has the team playing like a team and re-established a clear identity and pattern of play. Yes the few mistakes (like failing to strengthen at CB, FB and recruit a fit striker, and then more recently playing some very defensive setups) have still hurt and delivered some dissappointing results, however fundamentally we are learning and moving forward. I no longer go into games wondering who will play and if we'll be competitive. yes we can improve but aside from Chelsea and Tottenham I'd say we're next in line.

A couple of windows where we strengthen further, and if we manage to keep our best players like Coutinho, and we could be witnessing a return to a consistent top 4 spot rather than the one year where Rogers blew the doors off with Suarez leading the charge.


09 May 2017 10:00:23
Completely agree!


09 May 2017 11:50:09
Brendan came in with a reputation of Europe's best upcoming manager playing the Barcelona style of tital football. Failed in his third year and got the sack. Won nothing in between other than wasting trick loads of money on players.

Klopp is no different. Won nothing so far and will enter into his third and most crucial year next season. He has to deliver trophies else he gets the boots.


09 May 2017 11:51:23
MK That's if we make champions league, god forbidding we don't.


09 May 2017 09:41:22
What do you mean by that ed?

Like both managers just never understood the sacking of Rogers to bring in a German version of him as they are very similar. I also think to blame either of them for the team under performing is unfair. Yes there is things they should do like not playing players out of position but out of the pool of players we have sometimes there is no choice eg. Milners better at LB than Moreno. I personally think Courts is wasted in the LF/ LW position as a more central role would suit him but who else can we put there? Yes there is the youngster but for some reason Klopp doesn't think they are ready so well have to respect that.

Lets just hope Klopp is here for the very long term as that is exactly what the clubs needs.


{Ed002's Note - Quite frankly Klopp is not as good as the majority of the Liverpool fans think he is. They throw up the pitiful and embarrassing excuses of transition and he has not been at the club long enough, the tight fisted owners, the players not being good enough, the pitches being too dry, it raining outside etc..

https://twitter.com/WonderDogSparky }

09 May 2017 11:06:26
Ed002 says these things because he knows it winds people up. Ignore it. We know Klopp is a much better manager than Rodgers, no matter what some unknown ITK says.


{Ed002's Note - Try not to be a complete cretin. Right now Klopp has a poorer record than Rodgers. It is hardly "winding people up" to explain something that is correct to those who are blind and stupid. Embarrassing.}

09 May 2017 12:19:03
Klopp has a lot to prove so far. Not much of an improvement on BR imo (no trophies so far) and just like BR, the club cannot seem to keep a hold of its best players even under Klopp's regime.
Top4 now is imperative and Klopp needs to push on next season by winning a major trophy and securing UCL football for the force-able future. Otherwise, he will go down as one of the many managers that could not give the fans what they crave (the BPL) .


09 May 2017 12:34:25
ED002 really does think that Klopp is the great imposter. My response to that is "is there anyone out there with a proven track record that LFC could attract? "

I am struggling to find one.
Klopp is the best we can get and we will stick by him (for the time being at least) . If he is as bad as ED002 thinks then time will tell.


{Ed002's Note - I don't think I have said he is bad, but he is simply not as good as many think. Liverpool had several better options available to them when the decided on Klipperty - that has been done to death. Klipperty has won nothing for years as I have explained. He is stuck in his waus and is failing to show an ability to adapt and change. It doesn't make him bad and as the Liverpool fans are happy with the smiley clown approach and the lack of success, then long may it continue. FSG were dumb enough to give him a contract extension very early on - which suprised everyone.

So it is not a case of him being bad, it is in view a case of him not being good enough for Liverpool unless he can change. Until then, he will get by as the happy clown and the Liverpool fans will happy as the continue to celebrate failure.}

09 May 2017 12:36:05
As a number of posters have said, let's wait and compare records at the end of their tenure, not during.

What Ed002 says is factually correct, Klopp does currently have a worse record than Rodgers. No denying that.

There are a number of factors that contribute to that, as outlined by MK and others. I certainly don't think that Klopp is the messiah, he has faults as all managers do. I do believe that he is the right manager for us right now.

As to comparing eras, yep also difficult. For example, given Fergie's early years, I'm pretty certain he had a far inferior record to Klopp or Rodgers in his first X games, but he did OK? Of course, you can't compare eras, so that comparison is as irrelevant as comparing Klopp and Rodgers!

I feel more confident having Klopp than Rodgers. I'm sure most fans feel the same way. That's the only comparison that matters.


09 May 2017 13:06:16
I do like Klopp and I really hope he can bring success back to the club, but he's not addressed certain issues on field that were blatantly obvious when he took over, the defence being the big one for me -IMO.

My first choice was Ancelloti.


{Ed002's Note - Back in January #WonderDogSparky did explain about the defence.

https://twitter.com/WonderDogSparky/status/825386834796638208 }

09 May 2017 13:18:17
ED002- thanks for qualifying your comment-but please answer my question. Are there any better alternatives out there?


{Ed002's Note - I did answer your question - Liverpool had better options at the time and made a mistake. He was then given a lengthy contract so they could not afford to sack him even if they wanted to. But there are always better options out there.}

09 May 2017 13:28:46
Sorry ED002- my question was in the present tense- is there anyone now?


{Ed002's Note - There will always be someone but Liverpool are not looking for a manager now.}

09 May 2017 15:42:57
Only Zeddicus and MK have posted some good comments here. Comparing Klopp to BR or vice-versa, is a fool's errand, a false equivalence and comparing apples to oranges. It's like saying we should compare Klopp's first 66 games to Rafa's first 66 games while at the same time, ignoring the context regarding squad quality, individual talents, strength of competition in the PL at that time and so on. That is not a good way to judge. People seem to forget that BR's first one and a half season were dire (with the likes of Allen, Borini, Assaidi and the like) and it was not until Jan of 2014 that we got on the run that almost won us the PL. Everyone seems to forget that which is why stats are pointless without context.

Klopp inherited BR's mess with no pre-season to evaluate the players and get the ones he wanted in. You cannot disregard that as that is a key factor for ANY manager tho a lot of work still needs to be done cos like it or not, it's his team now cos he said so himself.

Has he made mistakes? Of course and he even admits that (something BR could never do cos nothing is ever his fault) BUT at least he got us to two cup finals in his first eight months, something BR could NEVER do in his 3 and a half year here. BR won NOTHING here soso why is he being seen as some type of "success" over Klopp who's only been here for half his tenure, Buzzer?

See how anyone can use stats to make a point? Judge them after a similar amount of time cos taking random stats at face value is pointless.


09 May 2017 16:42:17
Late to this party but I completely disagree with Mk. Rodgers inherited the worst Liverpool team in 50 years. In 3 seasons he had to rebuild it from scratch. Klopp received a much better team than the one Rodgers was given.


09 May 2017 08:27:51
Morning Ed001. I've been checking the FN&V site and a review of the Southampton match hasn't appeared yet, have you posted it elsewhere or not doing one for the game mate. Always an interesting read but understand if you are too busy or the game was that rubbish you can't bring yourself to watch it back and write a review.

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{Ed001's Note - to be honest I was just in the middle of doing the Liverpool XI and forgot. Usually someone asks for one and reminds me. I will have to do it later now as I am just on my phone at the moment as I am waiting for a medical.}

09 May 2017 09:16:11
Ed001 Which club are u signing for? :-p.


{Ed001's Note - Al Shabab.....}

09 May 2017 10:01:07
Al kebab more likely.


{Ed001's Note - believe me the level of footie here, even you could get in a team, even though you don't have my supreme level of fitness and chiselled physique....}

09 May 2017 10:45:41
Haha! Ed001 i think they are more likely to pay u weekly wages in oil rather than actual cash! :-p.


{Ed001's Note - they are govt subsidised mate, they have no shortage of cash.}

09 May 2017 08:21:29
Just for all the doomers, imagine if we won easy this weekend and Arsenal and Utd lost, its not all bad this football game you know, strange things can happen!

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09 May 2017 12:10:07
Arsenal and Man Utd both lost against each other.
It's hard to imagine that to be honest.


09 May 2017 16:13:30
Read it again Ron lad, I said, imagine if we won easily, and the utd and Arsenal lost, this weekend coming not last weekend, we don't have to make out everyone to be a dummy on here you know ;-)


09 May 2017 04:41:32
Hi Ed001, just curious; out of our current crop of 'most promising youth' such as Ejaria, Ojo, Woodburn, Wilson, grujic, TAA etc, which if any do you think are the most promising?

Personally I still feel as if Sheyi Ojo is the one to watch. But I'd love to hear your opinion.

Thanks.

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{Ed001's Note - TAA, I remain unconvinced by Ojo, clearly has skill but seems to be struggling to grow into his body and it is affecting his touch and timing badly. He might never lose that awkwardness or he could become a star, but Ojo has a lot to prove to me. TAA, on the other hand, looks comfortable and mature.}

09 May 2017 06:46:11
I was going to ask last night about Ejaria actually.
Only seen his cameo and league cup appearances.
Do you know the clubs thoughts on him?
Am I right in thinking that before Klopp came in, he wasn't thought of as a potential first team player?


{Ed001's Note - he impressed in preseason but he picked up an injury that has ruled him out recently or he would have got more games. He is very much liked by the coaching staff.}

09 May 2017 07:11:34
Thanks ed.
Give me a choice between a £50 million signing or a youngster coming through the academy and I would pick the latter every day of the week.


{Ed001's Note - same here. Both have a place but it is so satisfying to produce a talent rather than buy it. Though I am never sure which camp players like Ejaria fit in. He was brought in from another academy after all.}

09 May 2017 07:58:28
I think the satisfaction with Ejaria lies in the fact he was released by Arsenal, and we made/ will hopefully make him a first team player.
A bita of a middle finger to them, if you like 😊.


{Ed001's Note - good point.}

09 May 2017 08:54:23
Woodburn if handled properly looks a class act.


But then I thought Jack Dunn was a class acta few years ago, just shows you what injuries can derail a lads development.


09 May 2017 09:39:15
Pedro Chirivella looks like he can be a good one i think, dutch league isn't the best, but he is looking good the matches i've seen him play there. Very smart player for his age.


09 May 2017 00:29:11
Quick question Ed001 if your around.

Is TAA's future seen as CM rather than RB? Also if he is seen as a CM, is he more of a defensive midfielder or attacking?

Personally I would love him to be our right back for the future as there are not many good ones around and we haven't had a decent right back in years. But if he's too good for right back I guess we can't complain. Still can't help thinking that he might be more valuable as a right back given our full back situation and the fact we got quite a few CMs.

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{Ed001's Note - I have answered this before, no one is sure where he will end up, but for now he is seen as a right back.}

10 May 2017 01:23:08
Sorry mate must of missed that. Thank you!


{Ed001's Note - no worries mate, you are very welcome.}

 
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