Liverpool Banter Archive November 09 2010
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09 Nov 2010 23:46:56
This is only part of what you posted ED which Roy said.
"If at the end of the season he doesn't want to play for Liverpool any more, we'll have to deal with that situation when we come to it, but I don't understand why, seven or eight months from that time, I'm being constantly asked to give my opinion on it.
The answer is simple Roy!
Why didn't you give your opinion when you were 1st asked about it? And say "Pepe has just signed a new 6 year contract and is not for sale no matter what Pepe says"
Yet another master class of how to alienate LFC fans Roy. You really are an idiot!
Blair Mayne YNWA
09 Nov 2010 23:33:32
LFC team versus Wigan :
. . . . . . . . . . . . . .Reina. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . .Kelly. .Carragher. .Skrtel. .Konchesky. . .
. . . . . . . . . . Lucas. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. Johnson. . . . . . . . . . Gerrard. . . . . . .Maxi.
. . . . . . . . . . . .Kuyt. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Torres. . . . . . . . . . .
Roy Hodgson has the oportunity now to secure very favourable results in every fixture throughout the rest of this calender year - 9 Premier League games and 2 Europa League games .
Looking at the fixtures it is conceivable that LFC could win every game between now and the new year (though spurs away could be very difficult) .
If LFC do that it might be some kind of club record for Premier League consecutive wins , I don't know if Roy Hodgson is capable of that , but then every fixture this year is very winnable .
What are your expectations for the remaining fixtures this year .
09 Nov 2010 23:30:44
{ed's note - no, what I want is Roy to come out and say that Pepe has a long term contract and he would like him to see out that contract. Instead he did his usual dithering and almost smoothed a path for Reina to leave.}
So do you think that renia will leave in the summer ed? {ed's note - no, I think he will stay.}
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What did Roy say ED?
Blair Mayne YNWA {ed's note - "There's always spin put on these things. We're very happy to have Pepe Reina and I hope he'll stay a lot longer than the end of the season.
"If at the end of the season he doesn't want to play for Liverpool any more, we'll have to deal with that situation when we come to it, but I don't understand why, seven or eight months from that time, I'm being constantly asked to give my opinion on it.
"My opinion is that he's an excellent goalkeeper and I hope he plays for Liverpool for years and years to come.
"For me, Pepe Reina is one of the most committed players I have at the club. He's one who I never have any doubts about his desire to get on the field, give his best and win the game for the club. That's the most important thing."}
09 Nov 2010 23:26:43
{ed's note - no, what I want is Roy to come out and say that Pepe has a long term contract and he would like him to see out that contract. Instead he did his usual dithering and almost smoothed a path for Reina to leave.}
So do you think that renia will leave in the summer ed? {ed's note - no, I think he will stay.}
09 Nov 2010 23:25:02
TEAM OF THE DAY
1ST
- - - - - - - - - - - - -REINA- - - - - - - - - - - - -
JOHNSON- - - CARRA- - - - - - AGGER- - - - -TAIWO
- - - - - - - - - - - - -LUCAS- - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - GERRARD- - - - - - - - MERIELES- - - - - -
- -FALCAO- - - - - - - -HULK- - - - - - - -TORRES- -
2ND
- - - - - - - - - - - - -DGEA- - - - - - - - - - - - -
KELLY- - - - -CAHILL- - - - - - SKERTEL- - - - -URBY
- - - - - - - - - - - -SPEARING- - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - SHELVEY- - - - - - - - -COLE- - - - - - - -
- -KUYT- - - - - - - LLORENTE- - - - - - - -TURAN- -
+ WILSON/ BABEL/ NGOG = 25 WITH 8HG
09 Nov 2010 23:24:44
What is the point of contracts, how can a player who recently signed a six year contract say he will stay until at least the end of the season? They should either abolish contracts altogether or make them mean what they say if not what the hell use are they! ! ! ! Something really should be done.
YNWA
09 Nov 2010 22:42:54
Why is the ed. complaining abt roy's response to reina situation.this is not a rumour by the media, this an official interview by reina himself, u dnt expect roy to come out and deny a fact not rumour because their are quotes that backed the interview.What u want is for roy to come out and say everything is right when its not, since when has the fans been clamouring for the truth from the club, roy came out and speak the truth, still some are complaining.IMO, roy did the right thing because i don't see what was wrong with his response. {ed's note - no, what I want is Roy to come out and say that Pepe has a long term contract and he would like him to see out that contract. Instead he did his usual dithering and almost smoothed a path for Reina to leave.}
09 Nov 2010 22:16:00
If Everton and Liverpool win tomorow we go 5th! Surley this must be one of the fatest climbs of the table after 10 games?
YNWA
09 Nov 2010 22:13:07
Luv this site ed i have a good laugh at some of the outrageous aspirations of some who post comment on here, if we get two players in the next transfer window it will be a result, these people (NESV) are not going to be irresponsible with the cash, my guess would be Affelay and Honda. As far as the manager goes the incumbent should be relieved as soon as possible and as i've posted before we should be looking at someone like Di Matteo, young, ambitious, a good motivator and with prem experince, also he's done it as a player and he wasn't a pe teacher.
09 Nov 2010 22:12:58
Some people on here want us to sign A.Young, SWP, R.Santa Cruz, S.Taylor, G.Agbonlahor, why would anybody want us to buy any of these? We are Liverpool and with players like these we ain't going to win the EPL, surely we need to looking at top players not mid-table ones! !
YNWA
09 Nov 2010 22:10:20
Lucus does something good for once and everybody gets excited. He should do it week in week out then get excited.
To this post. . I take it you haven't watch to many matches this season as Lucas has been MOM in 3 of our games. . . give the kid a break
Rednose
09 Nov 2010 21:55:25
Ed, if you could pick 3 players for us to sign from the championship just ability wise, who would you pick {ed's note - just ability-wise? Taarabt has tons of ability, other than him and re-signing Anderson and Hammill, it is hard to see any really outstanding players in the Championship at the moment, well, other than Ayala who is ours anyway. There doesn't seem to be a lot of real talent there from what I have seen recently, most of the best players are ones we have given away cheap!}
09 Nov 2010 21:53:03
Spurs vs sunderland 1-1
great result for us
come on lfc tomorrow a win
think spurs have had there 5 mins of fame
bale does look like a character from planet of the apes
09 Nov 2010 21:43:37
I just do not get this 4-2-3-1 , 4-4-2, 4-1-3-2 etc debate. The game is about movement. When we played 4-4-2 it became 4-2-4 if not 4-1-5 when we attacked.
We attack as a team and defend as a team. I think people are becoming too obsessed with the subutteo formations. What we need are players that can multitask on the pitch i.e. defend and attack at pace!
09 Nov 2010 21:36:13
Re: "Everyone stop saying "Start kelly ahead of Johnson", because heres a fact. . .Johnson starts for England first team and Kelly doesn't even start for England under 21's.
{Editor's note - Here's another Fact. Kelly is a better defender}
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Here is another fact, Kelly is really a CB and not RB. We should not do to him what we did to Carra and shift him all over the place.
Still atm I would play Kelly at RB and Johnson RM to give us more attacking intent on the right and Kelly more experience.
09 Nov 2010 21:34:02
Ed, in the next 3 premier league games, how many points would you be happy with? Personally I think 7 points would be good, but we should be pushing for 9 of course, as these are all games we can win. {ed's note - 9 is what I would be happy with.}
09 Nov 2010 21:26:41
Asamoah gyan scores agen seems 2 b doin his job dnt he
09 Nov 2010 21:13:50
Lucus does something good for once and everybody gets excited. He should do it week in week out then get excited.
09 Nov 2010 21:13:21
This may of been said before but meh i'll say it.
We know about Renia saying he will stay til the end of the season and that he wants us challenging for trophys. Why has he come out saying this and us questioning his commitment. He signed a new 6 year contract when we were in real sh1t. Top players looking likely to go and now they stayed and we're beating chelsea he's saying this? Is it maybe just quotes that have been put in a mis leading way? Is he saying this so the owners can invest in liverpool. It just seems very weird. But i feel if Renia goes, then Torres will and vice versa. We have a chance for top 4 but we're not favourites. I don't think tottenham will get in there because they play in the cl and there squad is not able to play cl and pl. Man city might but i think they're struggle. They have played poorly and been kept alive by tevez. If we don't make top 4 then the only way we can keep them is by signing by players (mata, Llorente) would be my 2. Get them for about 20 million each. Any comments about the Renia position? Maybe theres been a arugement in the dressing room?
09 Nov 2010 20:51:02
Reading, listening and watching Roy is just embarrassing, Simple as that.
YNWA
09 Nov 2010 20:39:53
Ed, I seen someone talking about taarabat yesterday. Do you think he would be good enough for us {ed's note - ability-wise, easily, attitude-wise, nowhere near.}
09 Nov 2010 20:39:48
ED what do you think the chances of us getting xabi alonso back? {ed's note - non-existent unless Madrid bring in a replacement.}
|I think madrid will sign schiewnsteiger(spelling) so do you reck we would get him then ED {ed's note - in that case we would have a chance, certainly.}
People have got to move on. Xabis gone been two seasons and that's the end of it
True Red
Ed don't think we sold King Luis to early? {ed's note - no I don't, he was far too inconsistent for my liking, he used to drive me mad.}
09 Nov 2010 20:30:59
Hi ed, after 4 wins out of 4, are you starting to get behind Hodgson yet? If not, who and when do you think we will be replacing him with?
Ellis T {ed's note - with the players we have in the squad we should be higher up the table, but I can understand our bad start. The reason why I am not behind him is his attitude, I don't want another manager who is happy with draws, I want one that is only happy with a win and goes out to get one every game. I don't know when we will be replacing him, but I am 99.999999% sure he won't be our manager next season.}
09 Nov 2010 20:12:08
So 1977, your ok with Roy at the moment but if one result goes against us you want him sacking? That is surely fickle. One result doesn't make a manager, nor does it destroy him, as Alex Ferguson has proven over many years. .
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I think Roy Hodgson has alot of making up to do and he must keep winning just to satisfy the fans , the last thing we need is 1step forward then 2 step backwards .
1977
09 Nov 2010 20:11:03
Falcoa
Hulk
make a good partnership heres a crazy idea buy both
remember i am only saying i wouldn't but sell torres
got a ready made partenership
seriously though people are saying now about falcoa (good player) but i think the hulk as everything he makes alot of space for falcoa with his strength and running of the ball
imagine what space the hulk would make for torres i think it would be potentially a very very explosive combination and prem defenders would be scared
that i would like to see
Tazz YNWA
09 Nov 2010 20:05:50
Re. Reina reports today, i believe the press are just trying to drum up another story. Reina actually said he won't be going back to spain which has led the press to believe he would move to man u or arsenal. one could construe the comments to mean that he wants to stay at liverpool and fight for the club. I doubt very much that if pepe wanted to ever leave he wouldn't be allowed to goto another premiership club.
09 Nov 2010 20:05:32
Everyone stop saying "Start kelly ahead of Johnson", because heres a fact. . .Johnson starts for England first team and Kelly doesn't even start for England under 21's.
{Editor's note - Here's another Fact. Kelly is a better defender}
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Great repost - superb .
1977
09 Nov 2010 20:04:32
People please get over xabi alonso, he is considerd the best player that was signed during the madrid revamp last summer by most the fans, the bloke is amazing and is proberly one of the first people on the team sheet. he is the man behind everything and is the one pulling the strings for madrid. if we did ever have the chance to buy him back he would cost more than what we sold him for. i would love him back but it won't happen. ed please stop giving people hope saying there is a chance he would come back any time soon.
09 Nov 2010 20:00:19
I do hope spurs vs sunderland a draw
09 Nov 2010 19:53:47
Ed
Can u tell me what I should have for tea, u seem to be the oracle of everything :-) {ed's note - for tea? Easy - hot water and tea leaves, easiest if you get them inside what we know as a 'tea bag', saves mess and means you don't end up with a mouthful of tea leaves at the end of the cup......}
09 Nov 2010 19:53:40
Here's hopong for a top striker in the January sales .
1977
09 Nov 2010 19:50:57
I just can't understand y people want to get rid or evn plac KUYT on the bench! I know he hasn't got pace but wat bout his passing n soft chips for nando n d most important his commitment n work rate, wats d use of a so called 'babel' talent when he doesn't works or shows commitment? Kelly was awesome on sunday n i feel he should be startin regulary shiftin johnson to rw (God knows who asked him to b a def). I'l b very sad if we miss out affelay in jan n hope to get honda. We actually just need these 2 to add depth n quality to squad , n surely we must stick to 4-4-2 with these players
reina
Kelly carra skrtl aurelio
Gj gerrard raul jc
nando kuyt
Subs: jones, krygy, lucas, jova, honda, affelay.
Dependin upon d opponent affelay must be played as rw n gj as rb.
Summe : taiwo, lukaku r must n offcourse a cm(banega). Hope v get d rest from our very potent youngsters, y spend stupidly when v can mould? N if kuyt doesn't luks a good thng 4 nxt season then go for a striker ( hulk, hammer left foot) so the squad will be like this in summer;
Gk: reina, jones, hansen
Rb : kelly, darby
Cb : carrag, skrtel*, wilson, agger, greek, wisdom, #
Lb : taiwo, konchesk, aurelio (he can b releasd)
Cm: gerrard, raul, lucas, banega, shelvey, spearing, poulsen* (cm includes d not so necesary for this formation a dm)
Rw : johns, affellay, maxi*, #
Lw : cole, honda, #
Strk : torres, kuyt, hulk, lukaku, ngog, jova, suso, pachecho, #
(# indicates youngsters who can b given chance, * can b sold off). So guys doesn't this squad seem realistic, convincin n promising? Also remember that too many changes in 1st team causes technical, adjustmt, understd probs. Love the site perhaps its my cocaine. Ur thoughts ed?
Red Indian.
09 Nov 2010 19:48:30
"09 Nov 2010 16:52:00
Can everyone stop saying that we should buy SWP, Niko Kranjčar, Wayne Bridge and Santa Cruz. THey cantget into the 1st team of their clubs who we are supposed to be competing against, so why should they get into our team.
Also, please don't say they will improve the Squad! We need more player to play for the first team! not improve the squad.
We need to think will this player get into Chelski's, Arsenal's or Manure's team. They are who our Club should be competing with!
Benayoun - West Ham
Mascherano - West Ham (reserves)
John Barnes - Watford
Kevin Keegan - Sc* thorpe
Kenny Dalglish - Celtic
Danny Murphy - Crewe
All these players came from lesser teams to be part of the Liverpool first team. . Its all about good scouts"
Did they get into the first team of their clubs? Mascherano didn't and we saw what happened to the manager that didn't play him! but the rest did. Dalglish was one of the biggest players in Britain signed for a British record fee and was a celtic hero (until he left). Danny murphy and keegan were just 20 years old. Promising youngsters in other words. Barnes was also a first team player! Mascherano was only 23!
None of SWP, Niko Kranjčar, Wayne Bridge and Santa Cruz are are in the First team and they aren't very young either, so no resale value! And i don't think that these player will be much better then our current first team!
I'm not trying to be rude mate but it's just that i want to see us buy some players that will add loads to the first team. and its better when they are young so u can get a good price if they leave!
09 Nov 2010 19:46:18
The last great formula for success at Anfield was Kenny Dalglish's 4-4-2 :
. . . . . . . . . . .Grobelaar. . . . . . . . . . . .
Nicol. . . .Hansen. . . .Hysen. . . .Ablett. .
Houghton. . Mcmahon. .Whelan. . .Barnes.
. . . . . . . .Beardsley. . . Rush. . . . . . . . .
Far better than Rafa's 4-2-3-1 .
Rafa Benitez's 4-2-3-1 looked like a stop gap when it was first introduced - due to Rafa's defensive concerns and Steven Gerrard's outstanding ability - it then just seemed to stick around for far too long using only 4 players in attacking positions most of the time .
Roy Hodgson has to stick to a 4-4-2 formation and make it work in the best interests of the club , we should not be asking World Class players like Fernando Torres to play upfront on their own .
1977
09 Nov 2010 19:41:19
Hi ed i loved the game sunday WAS I HUNG OVER OR WHOT great work by are boys up an running now well done little gaffa 442 looked just the job.i posted on sunday morn 2_0 an so it was ed that was a big win. .just the kick start we needed I HOPE THIS IS THE START FOR GREAT THINGS TO COME.the pool look well up for it every player was on the ball all the players working an fighting so hard a big well done THE BOYS. bring on the wigan. an ed i must say a big pat on the back for young kelly he is going to be top class for me he has the lot pace power big strong. KEEP IT UP LAD.JUST 1 OR 2 PLAYERS IN JAN. 3 OR 4 OF THE OLD WOOD OUT UP THE POOL JAY ESSEX RED FOR LIFE WALKING ON WITH HOPE
09 Nov 2010 19:30:21
The ONLY way to improve a team is to bring in better than you already have. . . You do not get strength in depth by bringing in someone to cover for an injury. . They need to push a starting 11 player to the bench! No more squad fillers are required at our club!
09 Nov 2010 19:28:33
ED,
What are your thoughts on all this talk of Llorente?
Sure - the guy is a decent forward but with Torres as our regular number 9 - would you not rather we were going for a player in the mould of Tevez / Aguero/ or even Mata?
I think if a small quick strong striker waS able to occupy one CB for majority of a match then Torres would certainly do the rest with his pace and finishing.
Not sure an average paced Llorente is what we need when we have a great player on deck and in the air in El Nino. .
Your Thoughts ED?
peter nunn YNWA * * * * * {ed's note - Llorente is actually quick mate and he would occupy the defenders just as well as an Aguero, better in my opinion as he offers a lot more. He offers an aerial threat, he offers strength and power and he offers good movement and he is a goalscorer. He would be the ideal partner for Torres in my opinion.}
09 Nov 2010 19:26:14
RE :- I am struggling to see where exactly would meireles fit in at LFC, he's a central midfielder and not a winger, and liverpool always seem to play better using a 442 formation than 4231 formation, so editor where exactly is the best position that suits meireles attributes? {ed's note - he is a central midfielder, that is definitely his best position.}
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A club like LFC needs to have a group of top class midfielders (Jan Molby , Ronnie Whelan , Steve Mcmahon & John Wark) I look forward to Gerrard , Lucas , Meireles and Shelvey battling for 1st team places under Roy Hodgson .
1977
09 Nov 2010 19:25:36
"09 Nov 2010 16:52:00
Can everyone stop saying that we should buy SWP, Niko Kranjčar, Wayne Bridge and Santa Cruz. THey cantget into the 1st team of their clubs who we are supposed to be competing against, so why should they get into our team.
Also, please don't say they will improve the Squad! We need more player to play for the first team! not improve the squad.
We need to think will this player get into Chelski's, Arsenal's or Manure's team. They are who our Club should be competing with!
Benayoun - West Ham
Mascherano - West Ham (reserves)
John Barnes - Watford
Kevin Keegan - Sc* thorpe
Kenny Dalglish - Celtic
Danny Murphy - Crewe
All these players came from lesser teams to be part of the Liverpool first team. . Its all about good scouts"
Did they get into the first team of their clubs? Mascherano didn't and we saw what happened to the manager that didn't play him! but the rest did. Dalglish was one of the biggest players in Britain signed for a British record fee and was a celtic hero (until he left). Danny murphy and keegan were just 20 years old. Promising youngsters in other words. Barnes was also a first team player! Mascherano was only 23!
None of SWP, Niko Kranjčar, Wayne Bridge and Santa Cruz are are in the First team and they aren't very young either, so no resale value! And i don't think that these player will be much better then our current first team!
I'm not trying to be rude mate but it's just that i want to see us buy some players that will add loads to the first team. and its better when they are young so u can get a good price if they leave!
09 Nov 2010 19:16:28
LFC never had to worry about players leaving disenchanted before , because LFC used to win everything or appeared to be near greatness again . Now LFC have gone 20 years without a League title , it is only rational that players should be concerned about winners medals , they always have . Let's just hope NESV provide the platform for LFC to fulfil expectations .
Pepe Reina is just communicating his desire to be a winner .
1977
09 Nov 2010 19:11:31
I think Pepe Reina has a real Love for LFC and Anfield that will see the conclusion reached in the best interest of the football club .
1977
09 Nov 2010 19:11:05
Lucas was amazing on sunday and on the liverpool webiste it said that
he has given the ball away 8 times in 4 games that us amazing
Lucas to start _belive
Lucas on bench or sold _ unbelivabke
All Lucas does is pass the ball from side to side and backwards. What a pathetic statistic I could do that.
Seriously we need a world class center mid and Didi, Sissoko, Alonso, Mascherano off the top of my head were all light years better than Lucas and yet fans have now accepted him as our new center mid. Its horrible really.
Ever Banega as Lucas's replacement please.
09 Nov 2010 18:58:50
I wonder whether in 20 years time the likes of Poulsen, Jovanovich and Babel will use the term Liverpool legend to describe themselves when they act as football pundits in their respective countries, just like other failures and miscrients who have worn the glorious red shirt such as Collymore, Hutchison, Babb, Kvarme, Dundee, Stewart and Speedie?
09 Nov 2010 18:54:24
Is Mrs Henry going to wigan?. . i for 1 hope so as we don't play any sexy football no more, she the only scouse appeal we have at the minute that's got lfc at heart, and we are winning when she's about. plus ill there a hour before see if she willing to stand in terraces with me and the lads instead ov johnny
09 Nov 2010 18:44:13
Evening ed , everyone all this talk of pepe wanting to leave is fine . what he has to remember is he signed a six year deal 9 months ago so he would cost 25 to 35 million , wenger wouldn't spend that much on three players, and if Roy wants English players I would try for darren bent as first choice striker to partner Nando .any thoughts psvelnino
09 Nov 2010 18:42:56
People call Lucas Leiva an attacking midfielder at Gremio - his goal return for Gremio was 8 goals in 75 games - Surely his role at Liverpool as defined to date (holding midifelder) is his best long term position .
Jan Molby scored more goals for Ajax from Central Defence than Lucas did for Gremio .
Graeme Souness had a better goal average from midfield 1 goal each 6 or 7 games than Lucas managed at Gremio .
Lucas has scored 14 senior goals in 210 first team appearances throughout his career thus far .
Surely Roy Hodgson is finding his best position now , centre midfield in a 4-4-2 formation .
1977
09 Nov 2010 18:34:31
"All this rubbish about buying players don't forget the home grown rule, one team picked had stevie g as the only home grown player, "
the homegrown rule only applies to the squad not the team on the day. as there is a maximum of 17 non-home grown players in the squad, it would be possible to have an entire team and bench with only one home-grown player (11+7)
this is without even taking into consideration under 21s in there
09 Nov 2010 18:29:39
Reina: Solid as always
Kelly: Really starting to show why he should be number 1 right back for us
Carra: Solid. Good influence for Kelly
Skrtel: Played well but. he can always make mistakes easily Still would like to see agger start
Konchesky: One of his better games
Meirales: Put in very good shift
Gerrard: Great as always. Shows why he should have the freedom
Rodriguez: i would have rather played babel there more skillful and quicker
Lucas: Really developing played very well.
Kuyt: ran his socks off. Helped Torres when we was going forward.
Torres: Strated to look more like his old self.
09 Nov 2010 18:27:48
09 Nov 2010 17:35:59
Liverpool are odds-on favourites to take all three points away to Wigan on wednesday night.
Roberto Martinez's side can be backed at 4/ 1 to take to win. Liverpool in my opinion are likely to lose away from home after a tough game like chelsea on the weekend.
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I wonder whether NESV will remove Hodgson and Lee from coaching duties if Liverpool lose on Wednesday night?
09 Nov 2010 18:27:09
So 1977, your ok with Roy at the moment but if one result goes against us you want him sacking? That is surely fickle. One result doesn't make a manager, nor does it destroy him, as Alex Ferguson has proven over many years. .
09 Nov 2010 18:26:52
Re: Prow Reina and Woy comment.
I totally disagree with anti-Woy Ed. His interviews aren't awful. Would you rather listen to the same old non-commital tripe served up by football and managers. . "he has x amount of yrs on his contract blah blah"
1. No single player is bigger than the club and anyone wanting to leave can go., as long as the money suits. Torres, Reina or Gerrard. I think Torres and Gerrard should have been shipped out in the summer for even coming out with "I will consider my future after the world cup". . . there should have been nothing to consider.
2. Woy is keeping a stable team, the first team know who guru are and are growing in confidence. He needs to be recognised fuor at least that much.
3."His training is too defensive?". Who has ever logged on here that is a millionth as experienced as Woy.
DrRed {ed's note - but Roy is completely non-committal that is the problem! Are you not listening to the rubbish coming out of his mouth? All he had to say was that Reina had a contract and we don't want to sell, all he has to do is defend his players from accusations of cheating, all he has to do is not come out with complete carp about a draw being a good result. As for experience, I would rather listen to other coaches and players that have played for Hodgson. All of them say the same thing about his coaching - boring and repetitive defensive shape work.}
09 Nov 2010 18:25:35
PEPE REINA'S AGENT IS THE SAME AS RAFAS. HENCE LEAKS TO THE PRESS AND MEDIA. JUST LIKE RAFA SINCE 2004.
09 Nov 2010 18:25:32
Editor do you think babel could be used as makeweight to bring mata to liverpool and what sort of figures do you think will be involved?
{Editor's note - No not really, you very rarely seem swaps now a days}
09 Nov 2010 18:23:47
09 Nov 2010 13:41:59
09 Nov 2010 11:29:25
TO THE EDITOR
do you think it is possible for liverpool fc press officer or agent whatever the title is, could be contacted and make a statement and confirm liverpool fc are no longer talking to the tabloid press to put a blackout on malicious rumours, and give daily bulletins on lfc.tv so we fans can actually see who is saying what and anything else is deemed crap, these officer or agents should earn there money and be seen to do something i understand it won't stop gossip but at least its a step in the right direction, bob paisleys skids {ed's note - that is actually a really good idea, has to be a sensible thing from the club's point of view as well.}
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For at least the past year the London centric Spurs and Chelsea supporting press and media have been doing their best to destroy Liverpool with all these malicious lies.
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THEY WANT A TOP FOUR OF SPURS, ARSENAL, CHELSEA AND WEST HAM SO THEY CAN BE REALLY CONDESCENDING TO THE REST OF THE COUNTRY LIKE ON THE BBC.
09 Nov 2010 18:23:12
If this sh*t with reina is true, and if he did say it, why say it when your team is starting to come back to form?
he is just putting pressure on the team by sayin they hav 2 compete, which they will but he is just adding pressure because they would all want to keep him at LFC. .
hope we can at least win the f.a cup this year. europa wud b nice aswell.
mite show people wer on the up
ed? {ed's note - I just think it is a reminder to NESV that things are still not rosy and that the players are still not happy. But then would you be with a manager who spent the entire match at the weekend telling the players to get back, who spends every press conference talking about defending, who spends every training session doing repetitive, boring work on defensive shape?}
That mind-set did no harm to jose mourinho's chelsea a few years back.
09 Nov 2010 18:22:19
Thanks for the note ed and i take your point about O'Driscoll. I just feel that we're in a position now that we don't need to take a risk on a manager from a lower league that might lose us some players and might not have the pulling power in the transfer market.
09 Nov 2010 18:21:23
Editor do you believe that aquilani will ever play for liverpool again?
{Editr's note - I think he will stay in Italy}
09 Nov 2010 18:20:32
January will bring the much coverted signing of Clause (plays for the north pole) they said negotiations will begin will comolli on dec 26th, after his league finishes the day before. They guys quick (covers the world in an evening), marketing wise he unlocks the elf & reindeer markets. . already dressing in red and hair similar to Abel Xavior. And if we are all good for a year next jan we sign ronaldo, messi, kaka, snjeder, bale, n the likes. . . on the down side. . if we ain't good my 3 year old says it's back to Paul Stewart, igor biscan, sean Dundee & torbin piecnik (spelling). . .
The all seeing aaaiiii
Although I didn't see a win last weekend!
09 Nov 2010 18:18:50
I remember when Souness was in charge , anything he did that actually worked had me backing him again & again . Though we cannot afford another season like we endured during Souness's tenure , I can feel the same kind of optimism building again - now that Roy Hodgson has put a small run o frslus together coupled with the likelihood of a successful
November & December .
1977
09 Nov 2010 18:16:09
Lucas has been badly judged even before he started kicking balls for 90 minutes, such strong prejudice weighs heavy on young shoulders especially when he competed for a place in a midfield
Are the fans to blame? Love him and he may come good.
09 Nov 2010 18:13:26
Everyone stop saying "Start kelly ahead of Johnson", because heres a fact. . .Johnson starts for England first team and Kelly doesn't even start for England under 21's.
{Editor's note - Here's another Fact. Kelly is a better defender}
09 Nov 2010 18:08:07
I read a comment earlier saying that doyle is preffered over crouch. . no disrespect to either of the opinins but surely LIVERPOOL FC with there history of players and trophies niether doyle or crouch would even be a speck on the past greats that liverpool fc have had?! arent we trying to move forwards.
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09 Nov 2010 18:08:05
A dairy of a Pro
One of the greatest clubs in the history of football – Liverpool FC – are in turmoil. Aside from the ownership issues, results have left them near the bottom of the table. Of course the owners are much to blame. But rumours have surfaced that Roy Hodgson has lost the dressing room. If this is the case, I don't see him staying on much longer. Having witnessed a manager lose a dressing room first hand, during my days in England, I know exactly what it's like.
Just like Hodgson, it's not always the manager's fault when things go wrong for him. My former gaffer, ex-England boss Glenn Hoddle who was in charge of Spurs in 2002-03, was a top class coach but he had a very different approach to management, in terms of his thought patterns and man to man management.
A lot of managers just manage by the book – but he was more tactically acute than others. He wanted to play similar to Arsenal or Barcelona. If we played well it looked really good but if we didn't – people started questioning him and saying "Oh, it's too complicated".
This was all fine when we were winning but as soon as a few results went against us, I remember players, myself included at times, started to question his unorthodox methods. It was something you would be able you sense in the air as soon as the manager was having a meeting or team talk for a game.
What was interesting was how he spoke to players. His man management skills were, how can I say, different. Part of the problem was that he was such a good player – even long after he retired – and he expected everyone else to be able to do what he could.
09 Nov 2010 18:07:31
09 Nov 2010 15:55:39
I see the 'stadium' question has become a hot topic again. Personally, I don't think the council will allow the existing ground to be expanded. This si a residential area and the expansion of Anfield would add another 20,000 people into the surrounding streets on match days. I also do not that reducing capacity for a few years while the work carries on, or sharing with Everton for a year are feasible really.
It's the 21st Century. Lets build a brand new marque stadium to 21st century standards. Lets build the biggest club stadium in the Prem - a 90,000 all-seater with the finest palying surface in Europe, protected with a sliding roof so we can play no matter what the weather. Bigger if the Mancs want an arms race. Most of our games would fill it, the season ticket waiting list shows that.
It can still be called Anfield or New Anfield. History should be honoured and respected but it should never hold you back.
RED LENIN
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The Millenium Stadium in Cardiff should be the blueprint. Everything the new Anfield should be. I realise it was built in the late 1990s but I believe it cost around £125m which I think to be very reasonable when compared to new Wembley(£800+million). Go and see Mr Henry.
09 Nov 2010 18:06:41
{ed's note - the hold up was two elderly sisters who refused to sell, they were the only house in an entire street that didn't belong to the club. I believe they have since passed away and Liverpool FC acquired that house as well. So that would remove one major obstacle to redevelopment.}
Ed, have you been in a coma for 20 years. Those sisters lived in Kemlyn road and refused to move out for about 10 years until 1990. This street was demolished to make way for the centenary stand. Everton supporters as well they were.
09 Nov 2010 18:06:20
RE: Stadium
At the end of the day if we do or don't move I'll be happy. Win Win Situation for me!
For NEW Stadium:- A new stadium will not only bring in more revenue, more spectators and more sponsors, but also mark the dawn of a new era and help with the cities plans for regenrating areas. Lets be honest, the Emirites, Wembly and Millenium stadium are smart looking and futuristic!
For Anfield Expansion:- Its my second home that I have seen some wonderful games! Its drapped in history and glory. Still get goosebumps! Will undoubtedly be very sad day if we leave.
Intrestingly. . Could we follow Arsenal's footsteps and develope Anfield into something afterwards? ?
Gaskella.
09 Nov 2010 18:01:48
SkyNew this weekend:Rohan Ricketts: What players really think about fans
Players have a right to leave a club. After all, there are plenty of situations when the clubs screw the players. Sometimes you'll have a player who wants to stay but he'll get kicked out. When I was playing at Tottenham, I'd settled in, had a place in Chigwell, everything was great. Then – bam! – manager changes and they want you to go just like that. So why shouldn't players screw the clubs once in a while?
I think maybe Rooney stayed at Manchester United because they threatened his life. Otherwise he'd always have to watch his back. I would definitely have signed if people were outside my house because if you don't you're putting your family at risk. This is what happens when you become famous, you're easy to get.
Of course I'm not Wayne Rooney but as a player I've feared for my life before because of fans. When I was at Wolves there was a guy who was one of their hooligan crew who worked in the phone shop and when I'd see him he'd say "Hey, you've got to get a result this weekend or the boys aren't going to be happy."
I remember when I was at Spurs, one fan shouted "Ricketts you're * * * * * * ! I'm gonna get you after the game" and did that knife to the throat sign. So when I got outside there was a group of guys waiting from me and I had to get escorted to the coach.
When I was in Hungary, the team wasn't doing well – they were bottom of the Hungarian league and having a nightmare. After one game, we lost at home and I was about to leave and the team was like "Where are you going!? You can't leave! There are fans outside looking to kill the team!" These fans were a heavy mob and they wanted to fight the players because they weren't happy with some of them. So in the end I just kept my arse in the stadium for about an hour.
Fans aren't always threatening but sometimes their support can get a bit weird. At Spurs, there was a woman called Helen who got "Ricketts" tattoed on her arm. The thing is, I'm just a guy so I don't want you to tattoo my name on your arm. Still, I'll never forget her name. In fact, I hope she'll read this and then I can get a picture of that tattoo.
players are just people who get up and try to making a living and figure out how to pay to send their kids to uni
09 Nov 2010 17:55:07
Looking at Roy Hodgson's 1st season - atleast we know what it is like to be Tottenham Hotspur .
1977
09 Nov 2010 17:55:02
I read a comment earlier saying that doyle is preffered over crouch. . no disrespect to either of the opinins but surely LIVERPOOL FC with there history of players and trophies niether doyle or crouch would even be a speck on the past greats that liverpool fc have had?! arent we trying to move forwards. .
09 Nov 2010 17:47:29
Gosh - We are really giving Roy Hodgson some criticism , I only hope he changes the consensus and puts the club where it should be .
However if we lose against Wigan , I would surely want to see a younger more innovative manager in charge a.s.a.p .
1977
09 Nov 2010 17:46:25
For a Top Player not to be in the champions league for 2 seasons is a career killer.
Benitez had us knocked out of C+M early last season + failed to qualify + this season bottom of league.
Star players will walk + Gerrard, Torres, Renia, Kuyt, G-Johnson
But like newcastle owner mike ashley. Our own board may be smiling on the inside. All of the above players huge earners at the club. Finishing 8th place may allow the owners to get ride of the stars without fan backlash.
09 Nov 2010 17:41:37
In reply to:
We need to think will this player get into Chelski's, Arsenal's or Manure's team. They are who our Club should be competing with!
This is not completely correct. Different players have different levels of performance for different clubs. Look at Robbie Keane, phenomenal at Tottenham, who are high performers these days, but was shocking at Liverpool. Henry was a legend at Arsenal but could hardly score at Barca. Forlan is unreal at international and spanish level, but doesn't cut it in prem.
Ed what you think? {ed's note - I think you both make good points, there are those players who are not playing to their best and could possibly be good buys. But we have youngsters that need to come through, better to just add one or two top quality players and give youngsters a chance to fill gaps in the squad.}
09 Nov 2010 17:39:14
Here's hopong for a top striker in the January sales .
1977
09 Nov 2010 17:35:59
Liverpool are odds-on favourites to take all three points away to Wigan on wednesday night.
Roberto Martinez's side can be backed at 4/ 1 to take to win. Liverpool in my opinion are likely to lose away from home after a tough game like chelsea on the weekend.
09 Nov 2010 17:33:27
I think it's about people stopped putting up Sean O'Driscoll's name as a manager for us. Yes he's done well with smaller clubs in lower leagues but if we want to keep players like Reina and Torres we need a manager on a par with those type of players. We're lucky enough to now have owners that seem to be doing the right thing so now is the time to build around the few world class players we have and it starts with a top manager {ed's note - it is not about a top manager to keep top players, it is about a manager that gives them training sessions they feel the benefit of. A manager they enjoy working with and playing for. It is not always about a big name, sometimes they can be just as excited by a smaller name who has done well and look forward to seeing what he can bring.}
09 Nov 2010 17:28:41
Maybe Raul Meireles could play an influential role in securing the servies of FC Porto's best striker .
Will we sign a player of top drawer quality to partner Torres? Or will we be left making do with just a good player ?
1977
09 Nov 2010 17:26:19
Have i missed something, there seems to be a great deal of discussion, all of which is academic i might add, about who the next manager will be, as far as i was aware we have a manager, whose team incidently have just won their last four matches on the bounce, including a difficult match against chelsea. On to the discussion of press conferences, as i recall the last manager made a few gaffes with the press, im sure you all remember the FACT rant, and for anyone to suggest that a man should lose his job over what is said in a press conference seems ludicrous. As far as his signings go i cannot disagree that i die a little inside everytime i see Poulsen, however every manager has made poor signings, Fergie, Rafa, Pep all of whom are talented managers, much as it pains me to say it you cannot denie SAF's record. Konchesky looks ok for the money spent, meireles is starting to adapt, lucas has been superb so far this year, better than he was under the previous regime. To judge a manager after 11 league games is ridiculous, we have never sacked a manager mid season and are renowned for our patience, where exactly has that patience gone? How many of the people who want Rjikaard or Pellegrini would sack them if they don't deliver instant success? Also do you all think a new man whomever your preferred option would deliver that success? No bedding in period, no getting to know the players, the staff, english football etc? Seriously, have a word! They might well be successful but i doubt it would happen over night. Anyway that's off my chest i now wait for the abuse and accusation of being from manchester.
09 Nov 2010 17:25:45
I lov reina an torres but if they want 2 gooo then go no one is bigger than club be sad2 see emm goooo but if they want out then let them leave tis is liverpool football club end of story. . any1 else agree out ter, , ,
09 Nov 2010 17:14:58
Good to see the stadium debate heating up again. like ed said it is possible to keep expanding rather than doing it all at once. now in theory it would be easy to add another 15,000 seats just by expanding the main stand and the anfield road end.
and when it came to adding more seats again the hard bit would be the kop, deciding weather to have it continue up and back or having a second tier. however this all depends on the council and i would'nt hold my breath with them.
if NESV decided to build a new stadium i think it would have to be atleast a 75000 seater to make some serious money, remember they can't charge as much as the cockney rebels. this would take alot longer like 3-4 years (i wonder what the team will be like then). plus i don't want liverpool to 'do' a newcastle, having a big 'ish' stadium without the players to win anything.
with abit of luck the council can be persuaded and anfield can grow to be 1 of the best stadiums in the world, having the best team in the world playing in it.
i know its abit bit of an essay lol. but wich would you prefer ed a bigger anfield or a new stadium
always a red
{Editor's note - Do not mind which one we get as long as we still have the players to compete}
09 Nov 2010 17:10:44
Totaly agree with you ed on the steven taylor comment, he wouldn't even get into my lads u10 team cos he's sh*ite
09 Nov 2010 17:08:25
No way should lfc let Reina leave at the end of the season. The onus is now on the owners to show their determination in keeping our best players and to invest heavy on the team. Every player wants to win trophies, but i think there is more to it then reina has said about leaving. RH better smarten up else you should go.
09 Nov 2010 17:05:52
Rafa this rafa that blah blah blah , roy hodgson is our manager now and stop living in the past . support our manager and team and we might just salvage our season . if reina wants to go bye bye pepe , give us 35 mill and buy another one .
09 Nov 2010 16:52:00
Can everyone stop saying that we should buy SWP, Niko Kranjčar, Wayne Bridge and Santa Cruz. THey cantget into the 1st team of their clubs who we are supposed to be competing against, so why should they get into our team.
Also, please don't say they will improve the Squad! We need more player to play for the first team! not improve the squad.
We need to think will this player get into Chelski's, Arsenal's or Manure's team. They are who our Club should be competing with!
Benayoun - West Ham
Mascherano - West Ham (reserves)
John Barnes - Watford
Kevin Keegan - Sc* thorpe
Kenny Dalglish - Celtic
Danny Murphy - Crewe
All these players came from lesser teams to be part of the Liverpool first team. . Its all about good scouts
09 Nov 2010 16:51:43
Editor if we bought both Honda, Mata and Llorente where do you think Honda will play?
{Editor's note - On either of the wings}
09 Nov 2010 16:46:15
So maybe johnson returning on wed against wigan i for one hope he doesn't
i hope roy sticks with kelly the boy was brilliant on sunday and should be allowed with that performance
to keep is place
i wouldn't change the team just because he can come back into it
ed what do you think i thought we look so much more solid on sunday and its best to keep kelly in there now so he can play along side carra now will help him alot
johnson in bel kelly in unbel
Tazz YNWA {ed's note - I have never rated Johnson, not since he was an embarrassingly bad centre half playing for West Ham's kids. He has always rated himself far higher than he should do, he needs taking down a peg or two. Dropping him is the first step towards making him realise that he needs to work harder.}
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i agree with what you said but i don't think roy as the balls to drop him the only way i would play him is the right side to see how he goes there but then that means drop meriles i wouldn't do that either
even though merieles is out of position on the right i think he is a better tackler then johnson by a mile and as so much more energy
it as to be a time now the team worked well on sunday time to keep it the same and have a period of trusting the same players and see how they go.
09 Nov 2010 16:39:48
You all need to stop with still wanting roy out i meen 4 wins in a row is great and now the takeover is done its obvisly lifted the playerrs and to ply 4-4-2 was great
09 Nov 2010 16:29:12
2 any 1 who has any contacts on the inside.please tell woy 2 nt ply GJ in place of kelly, the boy deserves 2 keep his place n GJ certainly dnt deserve it bk.GJ has 2 b playd on the wing.CME ON WOYGIV IT AGO.
09 Nov 2010 16:28:09
Not sure if I'm gonna get shot down in flames here, but I can't help having a niggling feeling that if Rafa had kept his position in the summer and come through the sh*t storm re the owner situation, he would have created a siege mentality within the squad and we would be on our way to number 19.
Ferguson won his first title in his 7th season at United. This would have been Rafa's 7th season and I, for one, didn't want to see him gone after one unacceptable finish in the league (following our best finish in years.)
Ferguson's first 6 years final positions - 11th, 2nd, 11th, 13th, 6th, 2nd - Average finish 7.5th(Champions in year 7)
Rafa's first 6 years final positions - 5th, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 2nd, 7th - Average finish 4th (Champions in year 7?? )
How about this. .? Rafa to return *this season* and finish what he started.
Matt S
YNWA
09 Nov 2010 16:25:15
Editor do you think we could see johnson in january?
{Editor's note - If you mean we will see him sold I doubt it}
09 Nov 2010 16:24:10
In answer to questions regarding development of Anfield and how many people it could hold in the future (Ed's already stated depends on space); also remember when the cowboys where in charge looking at a new stadium then they were looking to have a capacity of 75,000 "Eventually" but was only going to initally build a 60,000 seater stadium as the road links etc. would need upgrading (for the 75,000 seater); so this would need to be considered when redeveloping Anfield - if NESV decide to do this.
Hoola
09 Nov 2010 16:23:08
Reina going this i doubt but lets see what has been said
he wants us to challenge before he commits his future - he already has, is he not on a 5/ 6 year contract
roy - once again doesn't cover himself in glory at a press conference, nothing new there then
Daily mail - what was the last truth they wrote about us - that wasnt already common knowledge
so all in all conjecture and another bad press conference and a paper that knows nothing about the goings on at Anfield
Reina loves the club and the fans and wouldn't disrespect either at this time and when the new board announce who we HAVE bought he will see the commitment and the need to challenge for honours and will be a part of the resurgence of LFC
YNWA
bigg2966
09 Nov 2010 16:20:01
So maybe johnson returning on wed against wigan i for one hope he doesn't
i hope roy sticks with kelly the boy was brilliant on sunday and should be allowed with that performance
to keep is place
i wouldn't change the team just because he can come back into it
ed what do you think i thought we look so much more solid on sunday and its best to keep kelly in there now so he can play along side carra now will help him alot
johnson in bel kelly in unbel
Tazz YNWA {ed's note - I have never rated Johnson, not since he was an embarrassingly bad centre half playing for West Ham's kids. He has always rated himself far higher than he should do, he needs taking down a peg or two. Dropping him is the first step towards making him realise that he needs to work harder.}i agree with what you said but i don't think roy as the balls to drop him the only way i would play him is the right side to see how he goes there but then that means drop meriles i wouldn't do that either
even though merieles is out of position on the right i think he is a better tackler then johnson by a mile and as so much more energy
it as to be a time now the team worked well on sunday time to keep it the same and have a period of trusting the same players and see how they go.
09 Nov 2010 16:16:35
Agree with all the comments on Roy and lack of skills in an interview -
"If at the end of the season he doesn't want to play for Liverpool any more, we'll have to deal with that situation when we come to it, but I don't understand why, seven or eight months from that time, I'm being constantly asked to give my opinion on it."
Why wouldn't he want he want to be with us at the end of the season Roy - are we going to perform badly under you management? Are we going to fail to finish in a European place?
No matter what anyone says we do not have a manager fit to take us forward and up to the level we expect to be at!
RED PADDY
09 Nov 2010 16:06:40
Editor should meireles be partnered in central midfield with gerrard or should lucas? {ed's note - Lucas and Gerrard worked well together, I would stick with it if possible.}
I am struggling to see where exactly would meireles fit in at LFC, he's a central midfielder and not a winger, and liverpool always seem to play better using a 442 formation than 4231 formation, so editor where exactly is the best position that suits meireles attributes? {ed's note - he is a central midfielder, that is definitely his best position.}
09 Nov 2010 15:59:40
09 Nov 2010 15:28:15
Liverpool Rumours
Im a bit concerned about roys interview and the question he wa asked about reina,
he said he ''hopes'' pepe wll stay longer than the end of the season,
if the papers were lying about what reina said , roy would hav been the first to say it.
but he looked worried about reinas future, ,
i fear for the worst
what u think of the interview ed? {ed's note - Roy is absolutely useless at doing interviews, it is better to just not take any notice, he says the wrong things every single time.}
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This is one of the main areas of concern regarding our roy, he has got to be the worst manager i have ever seen for just saying the most ludicrous things at press conferences. All he had to say was something like. "reina is one of the top goalkeepers in the world and i have no intention of letting him go anywhere. "
I think people are getting far too carried away simply because we have won 4 matches on the trot, why is this such as unusual occurence for a club like ours.
To all the people who are saying let reina go. you have to ask yourself why he is saying this (if reported correctly). maybe its got to do with the fact that he doesn't have any respect for roys managerial abilities, he wants to win things with us!
This is not a case of player power, why shouldnt they complain if they believe the manager is the one holding them back.
Roy was/ is a mediocre manager, he was less than mediocre as a player (defender. says it all really)
and has shown himself to be completly inept at dealing with the media.
All you hodgson defenders need to have a long hard look at yourselves and ask yourself where the real problem lies
chris 1
09 Nov 2010 15:55:39
I see the 'stadium' question has become a hot topic again. Personally, I don't think the council will allow the existing ground to be expanded. This si a residential area and the expansion of Anfield would add another 20,000 people into the surrounding streets on match days. I also do not that reducing capacity for a few years while the work carries on, or sharing with Everton for a year are feasible really.
It's the 21st Century. Lets build a brand new marque stadium to 21st century standards. Lets build the biggest club stadium in the Prem - a 90,000 all-seater with the finest palying surface in Europe, protected with a sliding roof so we can play no matter what the weather. Bigger if the Mancs want an arms race. Most of our games would fill it, the season ticket waiting list shows that.
It can still be called Anfield or New Anfield. History should be honoured and respected but it should never hold you back.
RED LENIN
09 Nov 2010 15:54:33
Editor should meireles be partnered in central midfield with gerrard or should lucas? {ed's note - Lucas and Gerrard worked well together, I would stick with it if possible.}
09 Nov 2010 15:52:32
I think we should stop all this 'replace Roy' talk now. .if we get the wins (as now anticipated) against Wigan and Stoke, then the side will have made massive in-roads into making up for the very poor form in the first 9 games.
True we are still not as dynamic as I'd like on the pitch, but it is getting better all the time. The grass isn't always greener, and maybe Roy did just need time?
Outside elements will always try to unsettle us (e.g., absolute tripe about Reina wanting out) but it's time to all get behind Roy and the team. He is our manager and for good or bad we are all Reds!
09 Nov 2010 15:41:39
Alot of people seem to be taking this reina thing way too far!
reina has never stated he wants to leave and if he did i doubt he would have told it to the manure biased daily mirror. reina has a very long contract and JWH has already stated we won't be selling any of our best players which i think we would all agree reina is one of. so lets stop blowing this into something it isn't its just the papers trying to find something else to have a go at us for, as we are now moving up the table they need something new to print about us.
just remember in the summer gerrard was defo going to real according to all the papers and torres had signed for man citeh. its all just a load of paper sh*t so forget it and lets look forward to tommorows game because if we play like we did against chelski we in for a good night and a few goals torres hatrick hopefully.
REDhunty
09 Nov 2010 15:36:24
I don't know what you guys think but I think we should of held on to Insua. He is young at just 21, lots of potential, and an Argentine International. I think people were overly critical of the lad. I think he was over exposed to the 1st team, due to Fabio (sick note) Aurellio being always injured, he didn't get time to rest and was always thrown in at the deep end, which caused his form to dip. He needs time to develope, I hope he comes back refreshed and more experience under his belt after his loan spell.
Paddy Berger2011 {ed's note - he has problems with his eating and, because of that, weight. Until he can learn how to pass a KFC or Maccies he is not worthy of a chance.}
09 Nov 2010 15:26:56
To the imbecile who says he has seen Camolli's report, get back to school, half term is over you wazok. The rumours about Reina and Torres are just the press continuing with their never ending attempts to destabilise the club. Reina signed a 6 year deal in the summer and is going nowhere. All the players have said that Roy's methods need time and are only just beginning to yield results. Personally whilst I had my doubts about Roy's appointment, he is an honourable man and has in the past 3 months blooded far more youngsters than Rafa did in 5 years. Roy has been brave enough to play the youngsters in matches despite being under huge pressure when results were going against him. Lets not forget he also agreed to join us when the club was in a lot of trouble. He deserves a lot of credit for this. He is our manager and deserves the backing of all of us. Personally I don't care two hoots whether the players are bored by doing the same routine each day. What matters is whether this yields results. If it yields results they are handsomely paid to be bored for a couple of hours a day. After training they can use their money to entertain themselves.
09 Nov 2010 15:20:21
I think we shoulder certainly buy KEISUKE HONDA, JUAN MATA, BLAISE MATUIDI, IBRAHIM AFELLAY, new RB, and a young back up striker in January. With GLEN JOHNSON, DIRK KUYT, CHRISTIAN POULSEN, MAXI RODRIGUEZ, MILAN JOVANOVIC and RYAN BABEL being sold.
I would have a 3 man midfield consisting of GERRARD, LUCAS/ (MATUIDI), MEIRELES.
Upfront KEISUKE HONDA/ (AFELLAY), TORRES (back up), MATA.
I do honestly think NESV will buy Keisuke Honda due to marketing reasons aswell as being young and offereing the club quality in various positions, remembering also that he is two footed. Juan Mata can play as left winger and second striker and will provide us with much needed with down the left flank. Ibrahim Afellay will bring further creative and attacking qualities to the club, and can play on both flanks aswell as behind the striker. Blaise Matuidi is a favourite of Damien Comolli and is dubbed the next makelele, so I can see him coming to us, him and Lucas will compete with the same position in the centre of the park protecting the back four. I do also think there will some defensive changes come january and summer as we look to build a new team around gerrard and torres.
The signings recommended have been constantly been linked to us in recent times and I think a net spending of around 35 million will cover these new faces coming to the club.
One last thing, with appointment of Damien Comolli, Roy Hodgson will not be in charge of transfers thank god.
Editor what do you think of the new signings ans positons I have listed. Feeback would be much appreciated. {ed's note - I just think that is too many ins, it would unsettle the squad and take a while for the players to bed in and learn to play together. I would only make two signing, at most, in every transfer window if it was me.}
Editor which two signings do you think we should make and why please?
{Editor's note - Llorente to help out Torres and Mata/Honda to play out wide}
09 Nov 2010 15:17:30
Ed am i being a n*b head who hasnt got a jar ov glue, yes liverpool do own a lot ov land around the ground would it not be possable to turn the stadium around so new main stand would be behind goal and carry the kop and anny rd along. or would that be just as costly as building a new stadium? {ed's note - it is a plan that has been considered in the past, I don't know if it was feasible or not though.}
as at barca they don't build up anymore do they. they go down. i think if we could turn it around any future developments we would be able to go down as the centary stand and new main would be wide enought to bring it inwards towardas the pitch if you can get the picture am trying to draw here.
{Editor's note - I understand what you are saying it depends on the costs really.}
09 Nov 2010 15:05:22
Ed of what percentage do you think lfc fans whant a new manager. for me its about 10%. 1 in 10 that i talk to don't want roy and never have wanted him.
{Editor's note - I think 10-20%}
09 Nov 2010 15:03:45
Ed/ jova, babel n poulsen will defo b the first 2 go.watchathink?im pretty sure/ hopeful honda will cum in jan along wiv a striker.wat striker realisticly do u think we nd / will gt.
{Editor's note - The players you have mentioned will probably be sold not sure who will come in}
09 Nov 2010 15:00:13
I can't stand Chelsea supporting Andy Jacobs the Talksport radio presenter who slags off Liverpool continuously.
09 Nov 2010 14:20:53
To all those who feel we need a 30mil+ striker like Llorente including you ed. this would mean we would have to play 4-4-2 and if we want to be back in the champions league next year then this is not realistic as 5 in the middle is essential against the top teams.(ok we beat chelsea with 4 in the middle but that was a very poor team we played and kuyt droped deep second half).this signing would also mean few or no others and he is 27 this is simply madness and his price tag reflects his form and not his quality, however if we spent 30mil+ wisely we would have honda and mata. both young and would help form the best, most creative midfield in the league. this would make it easier for the top strikers we have to score like torres, kuyt ang even ngog. to conclude there is no point spending 30mil+ on a player who we could put up there and then not have a team capable of supplying him with chances! ! ! !and lets not forget he will be 30 in a few seasons and past his best, not a good investment {ed's note - most of the top teams play 2 or 3 out and out attacking players. Real Madrid have Ronaldo and Higuain, Barca have Messi and Villa, why should we only have one? It is a stupid system that is only of use if you are happy to settle for a draw and maybe luckily snatch a win. It is not a system for a team looking to win matches.}
09 Nov 2010 14:18:01
Roy is still talking about defensive football at every press conference, and despite the recent results it is not, and will never be, the long term answer for a top 4 club.
Would Chelsea or Man U shut up shop like we tried to do for most of the second half? No, they'd keep the pressure on, as LFC used to do for 90 mins in their heyday- surely that's the best way to defend and keep the ball away from your own box? Maybe in the last 15-20 minutes we could close up, but to try it for a straight 45 mins is to invite disaster which very nearly came.
I'm not saying I'm an expert, and this is only another opinion, but from watching many, many games over several decades, my impression is that defensive football seems to go fundamentally AGAINST what LFC have always been about. We didn't gain a global fan base just because of league titles- surely it was our attacking spirit and determination that anyone could see?
Remember when they user to say 'never write Liverpool off'? There was a very good reason- the teams never stopped trying- even if we were two goals down or whatever- right until the whistle blew, and because of that we got lots of very late wins and equalisers. The same thing started to happen in 08/ 09 with all those very late goals and wins, but now its Utd doing that.
I think Roy's got methods which have worked well in other places, and he thinks he can just fit them into Liverpool without adapting them to take account of the club's very nature.
His inflexibility is going to be his downfall- watch the two defensive mids come out at Wigan; watch us get pegged back and give away a goal, and then only play well for the second half, and if we are lucky get a draw- which Roy will then say is a great result. I wish I was srong, but I can see him going to Wigan to defend.
There is no more room for any of that defensive bull- we can still make the top 4 this season, but only if we go out and play for it- we will never do it by defending well and hoping to nick a goal.
These wins are buying time for Roy, but if he sticks with defensive play he is doomed, because in the long term that will never win a premiership, and probably not even a top 4 place.
09 Nov 2010 14:17:21
If reina wants to go let him go .at the end of the day hodgson is the man the board brought in im not 100 percent happy with woy but it looks like we are startimg to play well , but i will back him, reina supposedly loved the club n wanted to stay last year , he plays every game the fans love him and with the new owners i think we will bring in quality players which will lead us to trophies in the next few years, i personally dnt think reina wants to or will leave but if he does want to im dissapointed in him!
09 Nov 2010 14:08:55
I don't know why so many people are worried about Reina's so called comments. They seem perfectly normal to me.
In fact i would expect a World Class player to be saying the things Reina is saying.
How can any fan expect a player of Reina's quality to sit in a team not competing in CL or the title year in, year out and be happy?
I think those players are called mercenaries. You know the sort money before medals. We can't have it both ways.
If we attract players of the ilk of Torres and Reina then to keep them happy (for a period of time) you have to be competing for all the major silverware. If not then don't be surprised if they become unsettled and want out.
Lately we haven't even looked like competing, let alone actually competing. The warning is there from Reina. He needs to see top class players coming in, just as much as the fans do.
How many fans moaned about the signings of Poulsen, Konchesky and possibilibility of Carlton Cole? Reina is no different. He doesn't want to waste his time with the likes of Cole, he wants to be in a team with quality players. Surely everyone is the same whether you are a player or a fan?
So i'd take these comments with a pinch of salt. You have to also remember players are acutely aware of the trouble speaking to the media brings and how they twist words and play on them, therefore not even a hint or clue about leaving would be spoken to the press in any event but they can be used to portray a very clear message if the need arises.
Bob the Red
09 Nov 2010 13:55:15
Bluddy hell drogbas gt malaria .bst nt av spread his s* t 2 our boys
09 Nov 2010 13:46:52
A final comment from me about the Chelsea game on Sunday. I don't care what Match of the Day says but that was definetely a foul by Cech on Maxi in the final seconds. It was penalty. Cech should have been sent off. Maxi was penalised for going over a little late and theatrically after trying to get to the ball before it went out. Cech definately touched his feet. Maxi was just doing what any professional would do.
09 Nov 2010 13:45:37
What you gonna do when the glen johnson stories come out , at least you will get a decent defender to play then up the toffees
09 Nov 2010 13:41:59
09 Nov 2010 11:29:25
TO THE EDITOR
do you think it is possible for liverpool fc press officer or agent whatever the title is, could be contacted and make a statement and confirm liverpool fc are no longer talking to the tabloid press to put a blackout on malicious rumours, and give daily bulletins on lfc.tv so we fans can actually see who is saying what and anything else is deemed crap, these officer or agents should earn there money and be seen to do something i understand it won't stop gossip but at least its a step in the right direction, bob paisleys skids {ed's note - that is actually a really good idea, has to be a sensible thing from the club's point of view as well.}
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For at least the past year the London centric Spurs and Chelsea supporting press and media have been doing their best to destroy Liverpool with all these malicious lies.
09 Nov 2010 13:36:49
09 Nov 2010 12:57:49
Im getting sick and tired of players saying they want to leave the club even though they have just signed new contracts.if pepe reina has said this and i do say if, then he should go regardless of how good he is.he signs a contract he gets paid stupid amounts of money every week then says to a newspaper that he might leave in the summer because he wants to win things.hard luck pepe unless somebody comes up with a record fee for a keeper you are going nowhere, nesv have already said that any player who is not happy can leave, but it has got to be right for the club not just for the player.we paid good money for his services and while he has been at the club he has developed into the most complete keeper in the world. so why would we sell him for £20 million when buffon went for £36 million.
if he does leave in the summer then i think shay given would be a good signing and relatively cheap seeing he is not getting much games recently.
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WELL SAID MATE. IF REINA DECIDES TO LEAVE WE SHOULD ASK FOR £40M AND NOT ALLOW HIM TO GO ON STRIKE LIKE MASCH IN ORDER FOR HIM TO LEAVE ON A LOWER FEE THAN WE SHOULD HAVE GOT.
09 Nov 2010 13:33:48
09 Nov 2010 13:26:28
Just watching Goal rush : john arne riise on the liverpool channel on sky , why did we ever let him go? he scored some amazing goals he was a great left back! Member his free kick against manks anyone? the one hit like a bullet and went bar and in :)
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There was a campaign by some to get him out of the club. Along with the well publicised personal issues regarding his financial affairs, by the time he went to Roma his confidence was completely shot. The campaign against Riise was very much like that against Lucas. But in my opinion Lucas seems to be coming through the other side very much stronger.
09 Nov 2010 13:29:44
Any body got any opinions on the comments by Stoke manager Tony Pulis about Premier League managers 'marking' referees throughout the season and relegating the 3 poorest performing referees and promoting the 3 best performing referees from the Championship?
Surely this will mean Fergie and 'Friends of Fergie' like Allardyce, Pulis, Bruce, Moyes et al will 'get the referees they want' to give them even more of an advantage?
09 Nov 2010 13:26:28
Just watching Goal rush : john arne riise on the liverpool channel on sky , why did we ever let him go? he scored some amazing goals he was a great left back! Member his free kick against manks anyone? the one hit like a bullet and went bar and in :)
09 Nov 2010 13:11:46
Hey all, just watched borrusia m'gladbach v b Munich and this boy called marco reus was very good best player on the park. Maybe someone for us to look at should be reasonable too
Fowler is god
09 Nov 2010 13:11:02
Just read the post on the role of Damien Camolli and, although I would be very surprised if the man could have written such a comprehensive report so quickly, it does tie on 100% with the noises made by the new people in charge.
They have already said they have to look beyond the headline transfer fee and look at what the palyer may cost them over the term of the contract and, they are looking for signings that have some sort of potential sell on value.
Bringing in the younger boys also makes perfect sense, as most cost very little to sign and, if only one or two turn into the next Torres or Gerrard, it would be worthwhile - so lets hope it is true
PS - Mark Noble is on his way to the pool
09 Nov 2010 13:10:56
To the person who posted this trash
"A very interesting insight into role of Damien Camolli, our new Director of Football Stategy"
go back to sleep and stop posting crap, Ed i love the site but this crap drives me mad at times. This man's source told him all this, which cmae from Damien Camolli. I find this funny as he is only in the job a week how could he possibly evaluate every player at L.F.C. in less than a week. Shane
09 Nov 2010 13:00:54
Liverpool rumours. We are being linked with some big names according to this site but i think we all know most of them are out of our reach we don't have the following- 1, a big manager, 2 good enough players bar a few to attract big names, 3 champions league football, 4 and i don't think we will ever fork out 25mil+ on a player for a wile since the players we have spent big on are a big let down as in keane, aqualani and johnston the price of them we could of bought david villa or silva and many nesv need to put out a state of intent in jan either we are going after big names or not if they wan2 buy average players we will go nowhere other than watch city run away wiv everything and we will lose our best players if nesv don't act now.
09 Nov 2010 12:58:03
Just read the post on the role of Damien Camolli and, although I would be very surprised if the man could have written such a comprehensive report so quickly, it does tie on 100% with the noises made by the new people in charge.
They have already said they have to look beyond the headline transfer fee and look at what the palyer may cost them over the term of the contract and, they are looking for signings that have some sort of potential sell on value.
Bringing in the younger boys also makes perfect sense, as most cost very little to sign and, if only one or two turn into the next Torres or Gerrard, it would be worthwhile - so lets hope it is true
09 Nov 2010 12:57:49
Im getting sick and tired of players saying they want to leave the club even though they have just signed new contracts.if pepe reina has said this and i do say if, then he should go regardless of how good he is.he signs a contract he gets paid stupid amounts of money every week then says to a newspaper that he might leave in the summer because he wants to win things.hard luck pepe unless somebody comes up with a record fee for a keeper you are going nowhere, nesv have already said that any player who is not happy can leave, but it has got to be right for the club not just for the player.we paid good money for his services and while he has been at the club he has developed into the most complete keeper in the world. so why would we sell him for £20 million when buffon went for £36 million.
if he does leave in the summer then i think shay given would be a good signing and relatively cheap seeing he is not getting much games recently.
09 Nov 2010 12:57:29
The one thing I admire above all is persistency as in we spent 5 years under Rafa giving him all the chances in the world (Remember the rotation days or the great buys for the bench? What about the 'Facts' press conference?) Then we persist on calling for youth to be injected into the squad because we the fans will treat youth with respect and patience (Lucas anyone?). We persist in believing Masherano was a great player when all he did was make one flagrant foul a game and chase one long ball a game to claim the aplause of people who valued his 'work ethic'. Then; we identify RH as a loser and he gives us every indication that he is, the two Americans are a cancer and the club is going to shambles. We are unhappy and like to be unhappy, don't we? So damn the club for having the balls to put a win streak together. Who the hell do they think they are? The way I see it: get a striker (Llorente or Hulk), two wingers (Affelay, Marin or Elia), promote Kelly, Mavinga and Pacheco and let Roy do his job. How about it?
09 Nov 2010 12:57:12
Piece of handwritten paper I have been shown that was 'retrieved' from the Kremlin. It should have been shredded but wasn't. It is several weeks old and is interesting in that the two centre backs are 'missing'. It also had "something like this" written on it:-
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- Kelly- - - - - - - - - - - - - - Konchesky-
- - - - - -Miereles- - - - - -Lucas- - - - -
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- Kuyt- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Cole-
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To all intents and purposes, two decent centre backs and that would be quite a formidable eleven in anyones books.
RED LENIN
09 Nov 2010 12:43:03
After the match on Sunday and a few days of reflection and reading the posters i'd just like to point out:-
1) Lucas - Is now getting rave reviews from many fans and judging by the reaction he got from the fans at the ground they are starting to appreciate him. However he hasn't suddenly become a 16M midfielder, likewise he wasn't the 'the disgrace to the shirt' that far more have labelled him in the last two seasons.
Many people will know, before they start, i have consistently sung his praises, especially last season, yet his flaws are still there regardless. It amuses me no end to see fans turn players into stars or gimps dependant on just a couple of games.
Lucas deserves this new found show of accolades, just because of the rubbish that has been written about him in the past. Lets hope he feels accepted by the fans and his talent will surely shine through an increase in confidence.
Yet let no one be fooled, whilst he is excellent defensively (always has been) works his socks off, especially off the ball, not afraid to get stuck in and go in where it hurts, he still has areas of his game that needs to improve
1) he still has his famous five minute patches when every pass goes astray one after the other.
2) he still dawdles on the ball and can get caught in possession too much.
So whilst now recognising the good he does for the team, we still need to give him time to improve on the other aspects of his game without resorting to labelling as the 'Anderson' of Anfield.
You never know, now he's aware he's getting support he may just get better and better.
Bob the Red
09 Nov 2010 12:42:18
My gut feeling is that reina and torres love liverpool but are putting pressure on NESV to buy some decent players in January. Gerrard is doing this as well saying he wants a quick fix. Lets face it if we don't get 4th there is a huge possibility reina and torres will leave in the summer.
However, all is not lost as we are not far from that CL spot. I don't like roy and according to the ed's neither do some of the players, but changing manager right now MIGHT be detrimental to us challenging for a top 4 spot. Huge desicion for NESV whether to keep roy or not. However they should make a desicion sooner rather than later. . either sack roy now or give him to the end of the season. Sacking him in Jan makes no sense whatsoever as a new manager needs to get a feel of the team before buying new players
09 Nov 2010 12:32:30
"Best Wishes"
Agree with you, nephew.That boy Sanchez is some machine.Sadly, I don't see him coming.
Anyways, well done to the boys for the good win on Sunday. .though I feel we can play far more better and at a much higher level.3 more wins coupled with s* tty dropping points there and there and we're right into the top three.
Though all the lads did good, my special mention goes to Lucas.For all the flak, abuse and derision he's had to put up with, he's done immensely well to still hold his head up, and get on with it.
Son, you've come to personify the sort of attitude, committment, character, intestinal fortitude, and endeavour which have been abundantly lacking for the better part of the last 18 months.
Grow strong, lad.Rest assured that there're fans out there who'll laud you when you do well, and rightly criticise when warranted.
As for Hodgson, my position on the matter hasn't changed:he has to go.Period!
Ideally, we could appoint the King as caretaker, with DiMatteo as assistant.The Italian would then permanently take over the reins in May.
Hodgson should never even be here in the first place.And really, it doesn't have to take us losing games to known that.
And Blair, don't bullied into doing a 180 by some fickle, on-the-band-wagon fans on here.I won't.
Silver Song
09 Nov 2010 12:25:54
My Liverpool First Team 2011/ 12 Season
Reina
M.Kelly G.Cahill S.Kjaer F.Coentrao
A.Young S.Gerrard S.Defour Arda Turan
F.Torres E.Lavazzi
Subs
I.Afellay
K.Honda
G.Johnson
J.Cole
B.Ruiz
N.Sahin
J.McCarthy
X.Shaqiri
D.Wilson
J.Shelvey
J.Carragher
09 Nov 2010 12:10:13
Morning blair . how many needles did you stick in your roy hodgson voodoo doll today . 4 wins on the spin and another two looking likely . roys red army on the march
09 Nov 2010 11:56:02
To this moron:
He is one of the best keepers in the world and yet has won no trophies as yet with us. So I can fully understand the attraction of a move to Arsenal who rarely go a season without Silverware.
He won the FA cup and the charity shield with us (I say us, when your clearly not a LFC fan). I think you'll find he'd have won zip if playing for Arsenal (you). Why do people keep believing the made up crap that they print in the Mirror or Telegraph. The people who keep repeating the stories from these lazy journalists are no doubt the same people who hang from every word that they read on Wikipedia. They (tabloids) have nothing to write about so they make something up. What annoys me is that it is always Liverpool. At the moment they could be writing about Rooneys mysterious disappearnce to the USA, or the antics of Nolan and Caroll, but they don't. When they really had something to write about Liverpool (the new owners), Not one Journalist got it right, or even close.
Pepe has has over 5yrs on his contract left, and for me is the worlds best keeper, so WE are holding all the trump cards. Even if he does come out in the future and asks to leave, it will take double the £20M fee reported.
Although it is too early to be talking about us having turned the corner under Roy (I have not been his biggest fan to date, but if he keeps the results coming I will happily eat humble pie), the results have improved. IF we can keep this going till January and bring in a few quality wingers, I don't think a CL spot is out of the question, far from it. When we do get back to challenging for honours we will no longer be the easy meet that the sc*mbag Journos of this world think we are, and they will move onto the next team that they think they can sell papers about, without having to do any real work.
Tommy Walsh
09 Nov 2010 11:37:04
It would be a travesty if we were forced to sell Reina. But if so, we shouldn't go a penny below £35 million. He is arguabl y the best keeper in the world
09 Nov 2010 11:29:25
TO THE EDITOR
do you think it is possible for liverpool fc press officer or agent whatever the title is, could be contacted and make a statement and confirm liverpool fc are no longer talking to the tabloid press to put a blackout on malicious rumours, and give daily bulletins on lfc.tv so we fans can actually see who is saying what and anything else is deemed crap, these officer or agents should earn there money and be seen to do something i understand it won't stop gossip but at least its a step in the right direction, bob paisleys skids {ed's note - that is actually a really good idea, has to be a sensible thing from the club's point of view as well.}
09 Nov 2010 11:19:30
This Agger situation is all the start I'd say. He's not injured he is only one to come out and say am not playing roys way and never will do. He has been worked up since he came to lfc to replace big Sami and Jamie when he goes, Agger is a jocky Hanson type of center back but z bit more universal, if he goes the last how many years have been a waste of time money and talent.
Dave
09 Nov 2010 11:16:17
*Lets be fair to Riena
He is one of the best keepers in the world and yet has won no trophies as yet with us. So I can fully understand the attraction of a move to Arsenal who rarely go a season without Silverware.
So lets show some understanding to this fantastic servant to our club.
DUCKWORTHS GHOST {ed's note - Arsenal haven't won anything for 6 years.}
*Sounds like the words of a non-LFC supporter.
Riena leave! More chance Arsenal winning something!
Lee73
09 Nov 2010 11:14:17
Hey Ed,
any news on when RH might be given the boot? If players are so unhappy with him, surely he can't be kept much longer? It would be disastrous if we kept him and lost players because of it (no matter how well he does).
t - LFC {ed's note - I don't know about that, player's are spoilt brats at times. But this is a major problem, it is a number of players that are unhappy and it is not going away. Pepe was just giving a timely reminder to NESV that the players don't like what is happening, but NESV are hardly going to remove Roy while the team is winning games. They have a serious problem on their hands right now.}
Thanks ED. Agree that players are spoilt brats at time, however i wouldn't put Pepe into that bracket, he seems to be a pretty down to earth guy. I also understand that its hard to sack someone when they are winning games, but Madrid seem to do it all the time (not that we should start behaving like them)
t- LFC {ed's note - there is a different mentality there though, here we tend to stand by our managers.}
Yes, we do tend to stand by our managers, its one of the things i love about our great club. ive been a liverpool fan for 25 years and have seen it, sometimes we stick with them for a little too long - just my opinion
09 Nov 2010 11:14:02
Sorry Ed, there's only been one player saying they're unhappy with the manager and that's Agger. Check Pepe's quotes, he says he's happy at the club. If you're prepared to name the players who are unhappy with the manager then we can consider your claims of it being 'a serious problem' more seriously. I don't think we should be joining in with the press's campaign against the club unless it can be backed up.
RED HERRING
09 Nov 2010 11:13:58
Am sick of hearing ov players not being happy, even if we win you can see these players are not happy if you watch players through the games it's not good. Many seem to be rebelling to carra's orders/ screems across the pitch, it seems to me that there is a lot of bad feelings in the camp right now, it's roys and stevie's job to get it all together and I don't think roy can handle big players. Far to many players saying they not happy for my liking even though we have won last 4 and we win the next 3 we have got to get Roy out, am not saying singing aloud on the kop Roy out but shorly Jonny has to listen to us fans Ed what do u think
{Editor's note - I think RH should be given untill January atleast}
09 Nov 2010 11:13:16
Can people on this site start giving RH a break da win ova chelsea was da 1st time in a long time iv seen lpool adopt a natural 4-4-2 and they wer better in every department over chelsea i tink kuyt is a centre foward and that lucas deserves his place in the centre of midfield. As for jan signings i expect it to be a low key affair i hope we get honda nd maybe a winger? altho i think martin kellys performance on sunday warrants him staying at RB play johnson RM with cole on the left and gerrard and lucas making up the centre not a bad midfield?? and if wolves go down i tink we shud make a bid for doyle im irish and i rate this guy highly. .
09 Nov 2010 10:45:45
Play babel on the left instead of maxi and he will inject some pace exactly what we missing.
09 Nov 2010 10:45:39
I am worried about riena, you look at him and he is not happy. Him and fernando look depressed. We all said it we get rid of rafa we risk losing big Spanish players pepe has come out and said it " he was here cos of rafa" for these players comin out and having somthin to say pepe, stevie saying there looking at things to happen now, am thinking these new owners have put a negative effect acroos to the player in there meetings. God bless Liverpool if pepe and fernando do go. It was them 2 that had the big pointers to the Chelsea game, how many points has Torres got this year and he isn't even committed 100%
09 Nov 2010 10:40:52
Pepe is simply trying to put pressure on Hodgson as he preferred Benitez and with the difficult stsrt to the seaon. I would not take this too seriously as once January comes the spending will begin( although i think that this is the worst time to buy!)
09 Nov 2010 10:34:50
You can't blame reina for wanting to leave, he has to work with roy hodgson telling him how everything he does is wrong, ffs the guy is the best goalkeeper in the world and woy has come in trying to change him! get woy out now!
09 Nov 2010 10:34:44
"09 Nov 2010 10:05:25
Lets be fair to Riena
He is one of the best keepers in the world and yet has won no trophies as yet with us. . . . ."
*cough* FA Cup 2006
09 Nov 2010 10:27:51
I for one was delighted when we brought glen johnson in, people i know say he was forced on us because portsmouth owed us x amount and it was have johnson or nothing because of the money trouble portsmouth were in, i have changed my mind big time i don't rate johnson as a liverpool player at all, posters say pay him as a winger i totally disagree he only attempts to go past a man maybe 2 out of 10 times and most times can't get past the defender, what sort of winger is that? how he got as far as he has as a fullback amazes me, sell him a.s.a.p, bob paisleys skids
09 Nov 2010 10:05:54
To this half ar#e supposed supporter
"Pepe wants more and so do I which means the aforementioned out instead of merely settling for them!
CC"
If you want more bud go support another team, ur sounding like those spoilt players now.
Jones101
09 Nov 2010 10:05:25
Lets be fair to Riena
He is one of the best keepers in the world and yet has won no trophies as yet with us. So I can fully understand the attraction of a move to Arsenal who rarely go a season without Silverware.
So lets show some understanding to this fantastic servant to our club.
DUCKWORTHS GHOST {ed's note - Arsenal haven't won anything for 6 years.}
09 Nov 2010 09:53:46
After the chelsea game all the players looked so different recently after the games the likes of torres reina and carra have all looked down and gloomy but after that outstanding performance the whole team and the crowd were just lifted this will no doubt spur us on as every player wearing a liverpool shirt looked on top of the world. also its the loudest anfield has been for the last two years it was great again. I don't wanna get carried away because its only four wins but it feels like something special is happening.
and everyone going on about a complete overhaul of our squad in my opinion are wrong our youngsters are looking good kelly was immense at rb against a very tricky player in malouda and lucas is finally living up to his potential, So in my opinion we only need a couple of players two wide men and a striker and just a couple more youngsters to bring through.
konchesky isn't brilliant but he is solid and will do till mavinga is ready so we don't need to spend 20 million on contreau who has no prem experience.
wingers i would like to see matt jarvis and either affelay or honda up top everyone has ther favourite but if he isn't out of our price range i would love to see llorente just my thoughts YNWA
REDhunty
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Good post Redhunty. My one reservation is that mavinga won't be cooming through and will be looking to leave along with pacheco, there are teams now very interested in buying these two and if they don't get a chance they will certainly be off, more so with pacheco than mavinga as he is a little older and has offers from spain, however it won't be long before the same happens to mavinga, lets hope Roy gives him an appearence this season even if its just a couple of mins at the end of a game.
Bob Loblaw
09 Nov 2010 09:44:36
Ed how can you be sure? He is quoted to saying on Sky Sports a far more reliable source than this site unfortunately by saying "I signed a six-year contract seven months ago and I'm happy at the club, but every footballer wants to be competing for trophies and winning things". This has me worried. Just because we've won 3 PL games in a row unconvincingly I might add people are fickle to assume we are playing well. I don't blame him for feeling this way. Woy is useless and Lucas has had one great game since he came and everyone thinks he's a world beater. Pepe wants more and so do I which means the aforementioned out instead of merely settling for them!
CC
In reply to this:
lets be realistic here sky sports news is hardly gospel theye the most anti liverpool wan*ers on the planet look at all the shi* they give thommo every week they love liverpool being in any sort of trouble.
and yeah reina may well say he wants to win trophies but we are only 5 points off a CL place and as far as im aware top of our europa league group so he has just as much chance of winning trophies with us as anyone else.
mate you really need to stop being so negative we played great at the wknd and lucas was immense we can't ask for more yet you still slating the lad lets get behind the team we are out of the storm now so remember 'whenyou walk through the storm hold your head up high ' don't just sing it believe it lets get behind our lads
REDhunty
09 Nov 2010 09:18:56
If we ever want to be a top club again we have to win the battle against this sort of player power nonsense. Reine needs to be told in no uncertain terms that he is not for sale unlesss the club want to sell him - end of story & stop mouthing off in the press or stop his wages. Anybody that's not happy playing for Liverpool then let them go now. If not then we're just another Citeh
Clubfirst.com
09 Nov 2010 09:08:50
Has anyone heard about ruomours of Pepe leaving LFC in the summer it is in the daily mail that would be a big blow to us, I thought he was the next up to becoming captain comments please {ed's note - not happening.}
Ed how can you be sure? He is quoted to saying on Sky Sports a far more reliable source than this site unfortunately by saying "I signed a six-year contract seven months ago and I'm happy at the club, but every footballer wants to be competing for trophies and winning things". This has me worried. Just because we've won 3 PL games in a row unconvincingly I might add people are fickle to assume we are playing well. I don't blame him for feeling this way. Woy is useless and Lucas has had one great game since he came and everyone thinks he's a world beater. Pepe wants more and so do I which means the aforementioned out instead of merely settling for them!
CC
09 Nov 2010 09:06:43
""09 Nov 2010 01:50:11 - - 25 is the maximum number of players in a squad but the squad doesn't have to be that size it can be less (i.e. liverpool only have 21 players registered meaning the can add to it in the jan transfer window). under21's don't have to be counted in the list but they can be used (i.e. shelvey). you are only aloud up to 17 foreign players (within the 25 player restriction) thereby leaving room for 8 homegrown players(to fill in the rest of the squad making it 25).""
Questions for you. If you are allowed to have up to 17 non-homegrown players in a squad that must not exceed 25 in total, does that mean you can have a squad of just 17 players all of which can be foreign along with an infinite number of foreign U21s and thus not have a single homegrown player on the books whatsoever? Or is there also a minimum ruling on homegrown.
09 Nov 2010 08:42:44
I see the Daily Mail is again pushing the Reina to the Gunners story -surely this is bullship and Reina will remain and be a future Captain of LFC.
According to DM Pepe is sore that Rafa ain't no more! ! also his spanish coach went to Inter.
What is it with the Mail? Always rubbishing LFC! should be a lesson to us fans (I read the papers online so no support from me! ) not to buy it.
09 Nov 2010 08:28:58
Does anyone remember our win against united 1-4. remember alonso got injured and lucas played so well in that game? i just want him to be more consistent cause hes always had the potential. you can't be young brazilian player of the year if you don't so lets hope hes consistent
Also we've managed to win big games in the past when down too. it equally important that now we don't go and draw or lose to wigan and stoke . if we can win against these two that will make woys job safe till the end of the season i assume
And whoever here said kyut doesn't have a good final ball obviously didn't see the first goal against chelsea but hes not a natural wide player hes doing a job!
True Red
09 Nov 2010 08:20:32
After the chelsea game all the players looked so different recently after the games the likes of torres reina and carra have all looked down and gloomy but after that outstanding performance the whole team and the crowd were just lifted this will no doubt spur us on as every player wearing a liverpool shirt looked on top of the world. also its the loudest anfield has been for the last two years it was great again. I don't wanna get carried away because its only four wins but it feels like something special is happening.
and everyone going on about a complete overhaul of our squad in my opinion are wrong our youngsters are looking good kelly was immense at rb against a very tricky player in malouda and lucas is finally living up to his potential, So in my opinion we only need a couple of players two wide men and a striker and just a couple more youngsters to bring through.
konchesky isn't brilliant but he is solid and will do till mavinga is ready so we don't need to spend 20 million on contreau who has no prem experience.
wingers i would like to see matt jarvis and either affelay or honda up top everyone has ther favourite but if he isn't out of our price range i would love to see llorente just my thoughts YNWA
REDhunty
09 Nov 2010 07:57:23
On the squad size i believe you can alter your squad in January so you could have another 17 foreign players watch Man Sh*tty change them all (according to SFM, who in their right minds gave that bully aknighthood)
09 Nov 2010 07:25:14
Given the current form Lucas is in , i don't think he needs to be sold. .he's young n improving wid evry match. .
09 Nov 2010 03:30:18
I think Jarvis is better than Arda Turan. The problem is some people never watch football and spend their time on youtube. How many people actually seen Turan play full 90 mins? I don't understand why some people want and keep linking us with players who (most of them) are foreign. Though I have nothing against foreign players but we have many talents right in our porch but noone's mentioning them. Ex. Shawcross, Jones, Clark, Jarvis, Albrighton, Henderson, Bannan, Wickham, Carroll. These players are currently playing in EPL(except Wickham) and playing good.
You have to give these players a chance at least. Look at Joe Hart. Birmingham gave him a chance and he knocked SHAY GIVEN (arguably one of best goalkeepers to play in the premier league) to bench.
09 Nov 2010 02:41:09
Kuyt was Hollands best player at the world cup Ed? I think you may have forgotten Mr Wesley Sneijder!
For me in Jan we need a left wing, right wing and back up striker. Get rid of Babel and Poulsen asap. Replace Konchesky in Summer, I'd say Jan but can't see that happening, Play 4-3-3.
Reina
Johnson Carra Agger Konchesky
Lucas Meireles
Gerrard
Sanchez Torres Hulk
09 Nov 2010 01:51:52
09 Nov 2010 00:28:42
Hey just a thought that came to me today. Liverpool had the worst start in the league since how many years. .and i thought we were having a nightmare and spurs were in paradise. Then i looked on the table and it says 15points for both. Then i said to myself "this is what Spur's paradise looks like "
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Quote of the day
09 Nov 2010 01:32:38
Nice to see these rumours circulating….not!, get a grip!
Torres was amazing, but can't help but think anchalotti's word's had an effect, much like the raffa vs drogba situation.
As for players……. believe in want we got. . . on paper….all world class internationals……(- 2 or 3)
Keep faith……we are coming to the end of the storm! !
YNWA
Jay (LFCWMSC)
09 Nov 2010 01:19:09
We'll have to agree to disagree on kuyt, personally I think he's dreadful but respect him for effort, no pace, final ball is terrible, poor shot, can't beat his man, I think him and Johnson on the right is a terrible combo because they both haven't got foktballing brains and are almost as bad as each other, I agree he plays better for holland, better players Around him, better style football too I guess, but Wesley Sneijder was Hollands best player at the world cup, at times that guy can be a class act! has the lot! touch, pass, shot, effort!
09 Nov 2010 01:04:20
I'm people slagging off some players:
Lucas - Man of the match against Blackburn, Bolton, and Chelsea for me. Also changed the game against Napoli. He's a great player, rarely misses a pass, gets stuck in a tackle, and will give 100% for 90mins everytime. Plus he's young and always improving.
Maxi - Has been hit and miss at Liverpool, but has done well recently and is a technically gifted player. This is something our current squad is lacking. With a bit more confidence and continued playing I think he'll do well for us.
Kuyt - An excellent squad player. Versatile, will run for 90mins. You know what you're going to get from him. Most people don't realise how important he is to the team.
Jovanovic - Hasn't played enough to judge him. I think if he was given a chance he'd be an excellent winger. Roy seems to be giving him the same treatment as he gives the other players who played against Northampton.
Johnson - He's an attacking full back. In a team like Chelsea, Arsenal, Barca, Real Madrid I think he would look excellent. Because Roy plays so defensively he doesn't get much chance to show his attacking ability, but shows his defensive weakness.
Poulsen - No defence. He's awful. Suppose he's okay to have for midweek games, but the fact that we payed money for him is a joke.
09 Nov 2010 00:57:46
Ed,
what you think of this first team until january
reina
kelly, carragher, greek, konchesky
johnson, gerrard, meriles, joe cole
torres, kuyt
there is no one a the club who played in the last for games, whom did not perform.
every players is getting confidence back, and so is the team. we have some easy teams now so i expect some good records. maybe all wins in the next 5 games? if we can achieve that then our transfer potential canidate will maybe just be two wingers, striker.
we have a good chance in getting a top 3 position.
3 point from 4th position after 11 games
8 points form 2nd position
and 10 points from 1st position
i hink we should sell
jovanovic
ngog
poulsen
aqualiani
insua
degen
el zhar
babel
buy in january/ august
ashley young
adam johnson
aguero
matanow i think with the confidence in team i think roy is going to give all youth players like spearing, shelvey, wilson ayala, amo, ince, etc a chance. and believe me, those kids are hungry for 1st etam football. now with these players making the firts team we will not have to buy lots of players, maybe 2-3 every summer i guess. we donot want to create a price war for players, that will kill the game. and lets look at man city and the real madrid team that had beckham, zidane, figo etc, never won the league. all the money and good players but will not finish in the top four.which will result in more money saving wich will result in future investement such as the stadium. our team is on a very good part now, bu roy still needs to calm the platers down and get them working. we will have negative results in future but atleast we can see roy is getting the team to play together {ed's note - why would you want to bring back Kyrgiakos when we looked so much better defensively without him? Skrtel isn't perfect, but he has a lot more pace and his positioning is better.}
09 Nov 2010 00:53:05
Just had a look at Ibrahim Afellay on Youtube (yes I know) but it looks like he has everything. Two footed, lightning quick, good turn on him, excellent shot. Hope to god we don't mess around and allow the likes of Arsenal to beat us to him. Something the club has always been s* t at, waiting around, acting slowly when trying to sign the best.
09 Nov 2010 00:45:25
Maxi is playing well lately, but i hav 2 disagree with people who said he was very good on sunday, everytime he was closeddown he lost the ball, if you watch the match over again you'll see what i mean, .
not having a go at the lad , he has been good lately, but looked a bit on edge on sunday. .
and his dive at the end was awful lol. .
ed, out of maxi, kuyt, cole, johnson, . who do u think deserves a run in the team? there won't be a startin 11 with each of them in it. {ed's note - Kuyt deserves it, he gives everything for the cause and has been a better player for us than the others. None of the others have really done enough to deserve a starting place.}
09 Nov 2010 00:28:42
Hey just a thought that came to me today. Liverpool had the worst start in the league since how many years. .and i thought we were having a nightmare and spurs were in paradise. Then i looked on the table and it says 15points for both. Then i said to myself "this is what Spur's paradise looks like "