Liverpool Banter Archive October 09 2010
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09 Oct 2010 23:40:49
09 Oct 2010 23:21:52
How much are NESW worth? New Owners should be some Arab Sheikh if we are any likley to succeed big time.
will im sure would like a man city or chelsea owner to chuck money at us.
these guys want do that what they will do is make us a better and more profitable team without the debt hanging over us we should be looking at a minimum of 30 million profit which will now go towards players and not debt .
im sure these guys no that first off they will need to get some big players in to bolster a stale squad but i will be amazed if we get more than 20 plus sales in january and maybe 50 million plus sales in the summer.
we won't be getting 150 million to spend im sure of that.
09 Oct 2010 23:35:13
Gav the red i agree from what i have seen of Turan he gets alot of time on the ball without being closed down, he won't get that in the PL we have not got the luxury of time to let a player develop we need players who are up for the fight that is still ahead of us.Who are proven in the PL i would like Hangeland px Babel
Shawcross
Diarra
Bent
Also get rid of the dead wood
Lucas
Poulsen
Joke-a-vich
Babel (although i like him, its just not happening)
ED Do you know if we are going for the Lyngby striker Kim Aabech?
{Editor's Note: I would expect everything to be on hold until the ownership is resolved, a period of consolidation, the confidence coming back in the team, perhaps a little tweaking in January, a good second half of the season and then perhaps some longer term thought.}
09 Oct 2010 23:31:18
Reina
johnson hangeland agger cissoko
banega
gerrard mereiles
cole mata
torres
that should be the first eleven at the end of january
09 Oct 2010 23:22:49
Liverpool will give roy till xmas to get it right. if he doesn't then pellagrini will be brought in and given funds in january. his first target will be fellow chilien alexis sanchez, juan mata and lassana diarra.
09 Oct 2010 23:21:52
How much are NESW worth? New Owners should be some Arab Sheikh if we are any likley to succeed big time.
09 Oct 2010 23:16:25
Any date on the court case
09 Oct 2010 23:08:15
H and g. Admin bad for them as they would have to pay 110m in guarantees. I bet its settled out of court
09 Oct 2010 22:54:34
"09 Oct 2010 22:24:16
Its NOTW that's reporting that boston will walk away if we are deducted 9 points.that paper is full of s* te!"
Whilst i agree with you about the paper, The Mail (just as full of it) and The Guardian (hit and miss) are running similar stories. The good news is that there doesn't appear to be a single source credited with passing on such information amongst any of them. I'd wager that, as with the sales process, they are still in the dark and it is all wild conjecture. On the flip side ESPN is running a story that Hicks will lose significantly less if Kop Holdings avoids administration. I still think this is all merely Hicks trying his hand, he likely has law firms on retainer anyway so why not take a day in court and try to wring a few extra cents out of NESV.
What worries me more at the moment is our own fanbase. There are still those eager to decry Purslow and Broughton (even Mike Jeffries has kept the background of his twitter page and lambasts them for the possible 9 pt penalty) and i wouldn't be surprised if the lynch mob has already started. Protest and people power is a fantastic thing, if aimed in the right direction, if not it's counter-productive. I hate to think of how many potential bidders may have decided not to touch us with a barge pole because of some of the misplaced anger and stunts.
09 Oct 2010 22:54:30
Lets get one thing straight, over the last 48 hours i have seen peoples opinion of martin broughton do full circle, from a snake in the grass, to a hero to a snake again, trying to eliminate a potential threat to his beloved chelsea. first and formost broughton was brought in because of his reputation, a reputation that cud be destroyed if he gets this wrong, a reputation that saw him offerd a role at the FA which he turned down due to his role at lfc. do you think he wud risk it all if he wasnt confident on his stance, he ent stupid, this take over hasnt happend over night he knows what he doing. broughton has had to tell the fans what the worst case senario is because so many lies and broken promises have been told in the past. he is and has been the only honest man on the board at lfc and still you give him grief! a 9 point deduction puts us out the top 4 not the top flight! ! !
09 Oct 2010 22:46:41
Hi ED WILL THE SOS CALL IT A DAY IF WE ARE TAKEN OVER, I HOPE SO
{Editor's Note: I somehow doubt it.}
09 Oct 2010 22:36:52
Why wud the the possible new owners walk away if we get a 9 point deduction? sure it puts us out of reach for a top 4 finish this season but there is still the quality 2 finish in the the top 6 even if we lose the points! its 3 losses people, and theres 31 games left, 93 points still to play for!
all the so called fans saying they wud stop supporting liverpool fc if we go down are a joke and make me sick 2 be honest, glory supporters need to log on to the man u forum. . . no wait the chelsea page. . . or who ever is top of the league at the moment!
09 Oct 2010 22:35:00
Forget all this talk of transfers in and out.
What I would like to know quite simply is who is responsible for our scouting network?
It seems the teams we buy players off are surprised we want them I.e. ngog, brouwer, poulsen and to some extent konchesky who fulham got a better replacement for - for less money. I can see on fm2010 that our targets are poor without sending a scout out!
* Welsh kopite *
09 Oct 2010 22:32:52
I spend a lot of time with so called leg ends at the match they all say the way the lads are sent out is carp – any one of them would give 100 xs the motivation that knobhead Woy is giving (even PN)– whipe out the game against the blue sh$te, they, ll stuff us – against Blackburn we need to sing for 90 mins – na, na, na, na, na - na , na na na DALGLISH ………. woy u r the weakest link GO GO GO
09 Oct 2010 22:31:39
Hey Ed any news for when the court date is set thanks.
{Editor's Note: All I know is next week.}
09 Oct 2010 22:19:57
I, ve just spent the last two hours in the pub with my red mates, all season ticket holders - the way the reds are being set up by Woy is a complete and utter disgrace. I wouldn't send 10 year olds out with that little instruction
REDS start now before its too late – WoY resign now – go away – don't pass go – just h$@k off
Reds read on the web "Paul Tomkins on Hodgson"
k$ss 0ff woy
09 Oct 2010 22:18:45
Guys, settle down, even a 9 point deduction does not mean a relegation battle, calm down :)
09 Oct 2010 22:05:09
I Always remember shanks saying no football club is succssesful without hard work so please red men once this ownership is sorted out please please make our great great football club great once more
09 Oct 2010 21:58:41
Go on youtube listen to shanks about consistancy and what its all about. you will never here a true word said what a man what a manager. I just hope the 2 great men sir bob and sir shanks will smile down on us and give us the luck we deserve for this our great club please fellow reds get behind them next week v everton and every game keep your haed held high.
09 Oct 2010 21:50:03
Am really concerned that Broughton has announced that administration is possibility, and that anybody within reason could then potentially submit a bid for the club.
If H & G have any, and that is a massive IF, morals or empathy then they will reinquish the club
I said today to mate that Broughton would not announce the deal if it wasn't 100%, as any business credence would go out the window. Then I checked BBC sport.
Massive week ahead.
Dirks Engine Room
09 Oct 2010 21:45:49
Ive recently returned from a holiday to turkey and asked out hotels waiter(a galatasary fan) about arda turan(ive never seen him but was curious due to the amount of mentions he gets on this site, he said he is an average player, very lightweight and would struggle if he moved to england and said he is only good for turkish league, his words not mine, ed your thoughts, have you seen much of this guy or is it mainly football manager based?turkish football isn't exactly filling our tv sets on a regular basis is it.
09 Oct 2010 21:43:51
I've read probably every post on this LFC site since it was intoduced.
I've never read one about how or why they wouldn't want Arda Turan.
If we can all see it what the h*ck is LFC waiting for?
Blair Mayne YNWA
Maybe LFC scouts don't base their proposals to the manager on Youtube footage.
It's amazing just how many thousands of Liverpool fans are apparently avid followers of the Turkish League.
Don't get me wrong, Turan may well be a brilliant player, but I don't believe many (if any) of the folk on here have seen more than an hour of him play.
09 Oct 2010 21:42:01
To the guy that wrote this:
I really think H&G are going to win in court next week. Reading the article from Jaimie Kanwar has confirmed it.
If (god forbid) Laurel & hardy/ sponge Bob & square pants do win, then i'd have to start looking in the direction of Broughton and ask why he didn't check ALL legal eventualities and their outcomes BEFORE agreeing the sale. If they did win, i could then suspect that fans (possibly even myself included) will start bringing up the whole Chelsea connection with Broughton and how one of the few potential threats to Chelsea has now been eliminated. Of course this is IF we lose the case and in a conspiratorial frame of mind. Does anyone still suspect Broughton as a rogue in disguise?. Thoughts would be appreciated.
The Roachmiester
{Editor's Note: A rogue in disguise - no. I think the fans could still foul up this deal though. I have heard reports of abusive emails being sent to the potential new owners already.}
09 Oct 2010 21:40:02
When January Window closes i expect this:
Manager: Kenny Dalglish / Guus Hiddink
Reina
Johnson Hangelaand Agger TaiwoTuran Gerrard Inler Mata Torres Gomez Bench:Skrtel, Carra, Konchesky, Meireles, Kuyt, Ngog
We can bring in:
Hangelaand-£13m, World class, Solid Defender
Taiwo-£3m, price cut, contract expiring
Turan-£14m, Nice attacker with skill, LFC Fan
Inler-£10m, Tough Hard WORKING (Mascherano)
Mata-£20m, One of the best left wings in world
Gomez-£20m, goal scorer, perfect partner 4 torres
We can sell:
Aurelio-£5m, don't need him any more
Krygiakos-£3m, still got Carra
Maxi-£7m, Absolute failure at Anfield
Poulsen-£5m, Worst then Lucas
Lucas-£7m, Rubbish, + we got Meireles
Jovanovic-£5m, aint worth it
Babel-£8m, definately out of favor
Aquilani-£12m, flop at Anfield
Total Spend: £80 MILLION
Total Sales: £52 MILLION
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Net Spend: £28 MILLION
This is so worth it if take over happens
09 Oct 2010 21:38:18
Ive recently returned from a holiday to turkey and asked out hotels waiter(a galatasary fan) about arda turan(ive never seen him but was curious due to the amount of mentions he gets on this site, he said he is an average player, very lightweight and would struggle if he moved to england and said he is only good for turkish league, his words not mine, ed your thoughts, have you seen much of this guy or is it mainly football manager based?turkish football isn't exactly filling our tv sets on a regular basis is it.
{Editor's Note: Arda is a talented player - I think he would be OK in England.}
09 Oct 2010 21:37:48
Correct me if im wrong ed but if the court case and takeover goes behond next friday and the 275 million is not paid back then R.B.S take control of liverpool football club.
surely tho only they can put us in to adminastration and get us the possible 9 point deduction.
why will they do this when they no N.E.S.V.will buy the club and repay the loan probably within a week.
and how many liverpool supporters bank with the the R.B.S. ill be changeing my bank if they f* k up my team that's for sure.
{Editor's Note: It is one option - but as I have said before I cannot see it happening.}
09 Oct 2010 21:34:58
Why the hell are people bothering with transfer rumours?! Pointless until we know whether the club will be in administration and 9 points worse off this next week.
Stop talking rubbish people!
Liv4pool.
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It's a rumours site mate were else are we or you supposed to post them?
Blair Mayne YNWA
09 Oct 2010 21:34:22
Just been told that there might be a story in the press about one of our players. Hope it is not true. .
Cheers
Macca
09 Oct 2010 21:33:47
THIS IN NEWS OF THE WORLD TOMORROW , NOT SURE IF TRUE.By Chris Bascombe
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THE LIVERPOOL takeover is OFF if the Premier League carries out a threat to deduct the club nine points.
New England Sports Ventures will walk away from their £300m deal if this week's court case ends with Liverpool being forced into administration.
The group led by John W. Henry are furious that both the league and bank appear to have shifted positions on this issue in the last 24 hours.
During their two months of negotiations in the purchase of the club, they believed they had guarantees that a nine-point deduction was not an option.
Only last month, Premier League sources told Sport of the World they would distinguish between Kop Holdings and the accounts of Liverpool FC.
And the RBS has often intimated it was not an option they were pursuing.
Now NESV are disturbed by the contradictory messages, making this week's court hearing on the club's future even more pivotal than it already was.
Liverpool supporters will be devastated that having believed their ownership ordeal is over, it may yet take another dire turn.
Sources closes to NESV insist they are as committed as ever to completing the deal and hope the court case will resolve any existing issues.
But they are not prepared to pay £300m for a club which will be facing a fight against relegation, especially as they were informed this wouldn't be the case.
09 Oct 2010 21:31:41
Well if we get to spend in jan then we should make an CB, LB, DM, RW, LW, STR a top priority personally i would like cahill, taiwo, benega, sanchez, mata, llorente, people might think im crazy butllorente will give us the target we need in the centre with torres and the wingers would provide the ammunition and to bully defenders while torres can get in behind. i know it will be hard to get anyone of these to join us in jan but i would like to see atlest 3 hopefully mata will be one of the 3
. . . . . . . . . .REINA. . . . . . . .
KELLY. . . .CAHILL. . .AGGER. . . TAIWO
SANCHEZ. . GERRARD. .MEIRELES. .MATA.
. . . . . . .TORRES. . LLORENTE
wat an awesome line up that would be and sack hodgson and bring in pelligrini/ hiddink
09 Oct 2010 21:26:40
I really think H&G are going to win in court next week. Reading the article from Jaimie Kanwar has confirmed it
09 Oct 2010 21:18:29
This would be my first team Liiverpool line up if i was in charge and i was guarenteed to get the players. (Based on 442 and Yes it is a bit of a fifa team)
GK: Riena
RB: Sergio Ramos
CB: Vidic
CB: Agger
LB: Phil Lham
LW: Mata
CM: Gerrard
CM: Kaka
RW: Messi
ST: Torres
ST: Dzecko (spelling)
The Roachmiester
09 Oct 2010 21:01:44
Ed i have just rea the article by jaimie kanwar, very interesting read.
i as a life long Liverpool fan is hoping to god that the judge is a liverpool fan and can see the cancer being sprea by hicks through our club needs removing before it is too late.
i don't profess to be intelligent but reading the article i can see Broughton's(god be with you) argument and i can also see that Hicks may have a case. Now i don't know how good jaimie is or his sources but the document looks real.
let all LFC fans hope the judge is a fellow red and follows his heart as i believe this could be a real nasty shock to the system if Hicks wins - if he does win and has found backing to pay RBS off we will disappear into the abyss of former great teams languishing in leagues 1 and 2. if hicks wins and rbs take control we have the possability of 9 points reduction and a real chance of dropping to the championship that may take years to recover from
i have gone from confident the cancer was being irradicated to one of hopeful optomism however i would still praise the 3 musketeers for their efforts and their stance against hicks
please if there is a god let him pass judgement on the texan devil and deliver liverpool from the devil incarnate - not that i am religious but i am praying for the right outcome for us all
bigg2966
09 Oct 2010 20:57:38
In our attack i think Luis Suarez would be a great addition.watched him for past two seasons and he has done really well. i say if we have the cash in jan 22-25m should do the trick hopefully.
Arda Turan would also be a welcomed addition his trickery and creativity is needed.
Moussa Sissoko of toulouse is a good defensive midfielder who looks quite agile anyone is better than lucas and poulsen right now.
I am of the view that Glen Johnson has been quite horrible in defending this term. i would love to see him moved on for some cash.davide santon is a good shout for one of the lb rb positions.Havent really seen konchesky good as yet but i just don't feel assured with him at the back. Lastly i think skrtel at some time goes crazy and thinks he is in a fight so i would welcome a much more calm cb to the club.
Any suggestions anyone?
IN-SUAREZ, TURAN, MOUSSA SISSOKO, DAVIDE SANTON, BONUCCI, DANIEL OPARE LOOKS GOOD, EVER BANEGA, i know im dreaming JUAN MATA, OLA TOIVONEN, MIGUEL, DANIEL AYALA 1ST TEAM
OUT-GJOHNSON, KONCHESKY, SKRTEL, BABEL, LUCAS PLZ, JOVANOVIC, POULSEN, SPEARING
REINA
OPARE CARRA AGGER SANTON
SISSOKO/ BANEGA
TURAN GERRARD COLE/ MATA
SUAREZ TORRES
Bench: Ngog kuyt bonucci ayala kelly aqua rmiereles pacheco
What do u guys think?
09 Oct 2010 20:40:42
Ed of course I do, very much appreciated you edited my comment as it was abit to deep, but your spot on about complaining about who the owners are and complaining about money and who are targets are! But thank you again ed, very tragic that another young life has been taken football related or not.
James Mc
09 Oct 2010 20:36:22
I think we should buy turan mata kaka vidic and defour
new team
gk:reina
rb:johnson
lb:konchesky
cbs:vidic carragher
amr:turan
aml:mata
cm:gerrard kaka defour
st:torres
what do you think good or what
. . i think. . .
gk:reina
rb:johnson
lb:fabio coentrao
cbs:Agger, skrtel
amr:turan
aml:mata
cm:gerrard kaka Meireles
st:torres
. .OR. . .
gk:reina
rb:johnson
lb:fabio coentrao
cbs:Agger, skrtel
amr:A SANCHEZ
aml:mata
cm:gerrard Meireles
st:torres / M.GOMEZ
09 Oct 2010 20:32:20
Do you agree that spearing and shelvey should be ahead of poulsh1te and Lucas in the pecking order?. . erm Hell No. ! Lucas for me is improving and very young an Brazilian international. spearing needs to get sold because he tries to sound like carra when he plays (the high pitch sqweeeeeky voice, yes that's carras and also you hear it when the reserves play which is spearings) he's a reserve player or squad player just to make up some extra numbers because he's English. if Kiddink or Klinsmann was to be our manager do you really think they will keep spearing as a future prospect? i don't. . hes 22 and 19 year old pacheco has of lately been getting more first team experience than him. shelvy on the other hand is future class!
09 Oct 2010 20:10:45
I think we should buy turan mata kaka vidic and defour
new team
gk:reina
rb:johnson
lb:konchesky
cbs:vidic carragher
amr:turan
aml:mata
cm:gerrard kaka defour
st:torres
what do you think good or what
09 Oct 2010 20:08:41
Ed, Just a comment about Jay McVey, A young man from the city of liverpool who passed away last night! Jay was a liverpool supporter who was murdered. Thought are with Jay's family and friends. Rest In Peace mate, true football fans will never forget.
James Mc
{Editor's Note: It is a terrible thing James and maybe it will make some readers realise that there is more to life than complaining about the owners. You will appreciate that it was necessary to edit your post.}
09 Oct 2010 20:07:44
09 Oct 2010 19:21:44
Things are about take a drastic turn - East.
Elvis
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I heard it was West!
Blair Mayne YNWA
09 Oct 2010 19:54:33
"09 Oct 2010 19:32:40
It's really this simple, If you were Kaka would you want to move to an underperforming Liverpool Side stuggling to fine a remnance of form coupled with the financial difficulties we now face? ?"
I'm confused, what financial difficulties would they be? Being self sufficient and unburdened by debt?
09 Oct 2010 19:32:40
It's really this simple, If you were Kaka would you want to move to an underperforming Liverpool Side stuggling to fine a remnance of form coupled with the financial difficulties we now face? ?
09 Oct 2010 19:28:36
09 Oct 2010 18:31:52
Ed, just wondering if you have read the article on liverpool kop by jamie kainwee . If you have what are your opinions on it and does he know his stuff?
I just read it, and it seems to be a sensible, objective analysis of the situation. Although replies to it highlight the following line from the AoA
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It says:
"Any appointment or removal shall be made in writing and signed by the then current chairman"
Broughton is ofc the current chairman, and although this sale might be undermined by Hicks on the grounds that it is not a 'reasonable' deal, he obviously will feel that this is one of the main foundations of his case. What is not so clear is the issue of a 9 point deduction, which is made more likely by the fact that LFC is the sole business of Kop Holdings.
09 Oct 2010 19:19:10
Hey people the only down side of NESV taking over is we will all start ahving to pay for the liverpool chanel lol, its a strange thing, but nothing has really happened yet but im looking forward to the everton game with confidence and last sunday a i was dreading it
always a red
09 Oct 2010 19:12:26
Here we go again! The new owners havent even got the club yet. . .and everyone is saying who we should or can get. .KAKA. .Come on please be serious! !
09 Oct 2010 19:07:52
Ed, what the h*ck is going on, one minute Broughton is saying we won't lose the court case against H&G, then the BBC say that he fears we may go into Administration. What happened to the confident man we saw on LFCTV, and interviews with SKY. From being over the moon with the takeover i'm starting to panic, if we lose 9 points, we're in sh*ep. What do you think ED. .
Sooty
{Editor's Note: I don't think Martin Broughton said the we will go into Administration, I think he is saying that the risk is of course there - as it is. Try not to panic Sooty.}
09 Oct 2010 19:04:38
09 Oct 2010 18:38:45
This is t* * * * speaking
i would like to know just what david the d*nce moores views on all this takeover fight after all it was his greed that got us in this mess in the first place, but i bet he doesn't give a h*ck he will start to show his face once the storm calms down and take his RIGHTFUL PLACE BACK IN THE DIRECTORS BOX the h*cking weasle
from * * * d* who carries the sword of truth and justice for the man in the street and aint afraid to * * it
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Thanks **e***** were would we be without you?
Keep the tr*th and *ustice coming mate you're doing a great j*b!
Bl*ir Mayne YN*A
09 Oct 2010 18:38:45
This is t******* speaking
i would like to know just what david the d*nce moores views on all this takeover fight after all it was his greed that got us in this mess in the first place, but i bet he doesn't give a h*ck he will start to show his face once the storm calms down and take his RIGHTFUL PLACE BACK IN THE DIRECTORS BOX the h*cking weasle
from ******d* who carries the sword of truth and justice for the man in the street and aint afraid to **** it
09 Oct 2010 18:31:52
Ed, just wondering if you have read the article on liverpool kop by jamie kainwee . If you have what are your opinions on it and does he know his stuff?
{Editor's Note: I am afraid that I have not read it - maybe someone else could give an opinion.}
09 Oct 2010 18:27:44
09 Oct 2010 18:17:10
09 Oct 2010 16:44:18
History repeating itself (H&G versus DIC - 2007)
Major players from the far/ middle east are once again ignored in favour of small time Americans without the resources to take the club forward.
Brown envelopes being passed under the table I reckon.
Lets hope the rumours of the Singapore consortium (or others with serious resources) still being in the frame are true. {ed's note - you clearly are completely out of touch with the reality of the situation if you think these are small time without the resources to take us forward.}
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QUITE AGREE ED.
With the new rules coming in stating a club can only spend what they make in profit each year sugar daddys r useless anyway
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THAT'S THE POINT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE FORGETTING.
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NESV are serious players in the world of sport. They do have the resources.
09 Oct 2010 18:21:18
09 Oct 2010 16:14:07
09 Oct 2010 10:44:32
Ed- when Hicks and Gillette were sold our beloved club by Moores and Parry there was another Arab bid on the table. This I understand was not based on a leveraged buyout situation.
I believe that there was also an Arab bid this time round over which the NESV bid has been preferrred. Is there a reluctance to sell to wealthy Arabs? A hint of racism perhaps? {ed's note - not at all mate, this is not about racism, the choice was made because the Americans have a proven track record in this area.}
Do we really need someone with a proven track record
Did Roman Abramavich come with a proven track record and to a lesser degree did Shaikh Mansour have any track record in football?
My own view is that there is a fear of selling to rich Arab billionaires but whether that is the same as racism, well only the board knows
{Editor's Note: Two firm bids were made - neither from the Middle East. One bid was accepted and that is where we are now.}
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AGREE ED. ALSO JUST BECAUSE HENRY IS NOT PERSONALLY A BILLIONAIRE, HE IS STILL VERY WEALTHY AND NESV HAS OTHER VERY WEALTHY PEOPLE INVOLVED. TOTAL WEALTH MANY BILLIONS.
{Editor's Note: Forget the wealth of the individuals involved. The club has been sold - subject to the sale going through - to New England Sports Ventures, not Henry and not the other partners. Their individual wealth or not is entirely irrelevant.}
09 Oct 2010 18:17:10
09 Oct 2010 16:44:18
History repeating itself (H&G versus DIC - 2007)
Major players from the far/ middle east are once again ignored in favour of small time Americans without the resources to take the club forward.
Brown envelopes being passed under the table I reckon.
Lets hope the rumours of the Singapore consortium (or others with serious resources) still being in the frame are true. {ed's note - you clearly are completely out of touch with the reality of the situation if you think these are small time without the resources to take us forward.}
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QUITE AGREE ED.
With the new rules coming in stating a club can only spend what they make in profit each year sugar daddys r useless anyway
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THAT'S THE POINT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE FORGETTING.
09 Oct 2010 18:11:51
Ed, is ESPN soccernet a reliable source as they allways add something different about the takeover situation?
thanks
and also do you know when the court hearing is?
{Editor's Note: Sources are only as good as the input they get from elsewhere. The hearing is sometime next week.}
09 Oct 2010 18:06:46
This is how i understand whats happening with the takeover please correct me if i'm off the mark. So if H and G don't pay off the loan by friday the bank takes the club and they don't get any money when the bank sells the club.But if they accept the NESV offer they'll get the 300 million there offering, so why H and G risks getting nothing unless they have something in the works which has me a bit worried that they're fighting the sale. Whats yer opinion people?
YNWA!
{Editor's Note: If they take the £300M most of it has to be paid in loans to RBS and Wachovia. If they can gain more time they can look to refinance or find a buyer to pay more. If the club is taken by RBS or Wells Fargo, then whatever it is sold for will see the debts paid off and the remainder go to Hicks and Gillett.}
09 Oct 2010 18:05:19
Re:
This is far from over guys - NESV's bid has been gazumped. Temasek Holdings and another wealthy consortium from the far east are about to start a bidding war for the club.
Why oh why don't I know co*ks like you in real life. Betting against you would be like taking candy from a baby.
Oh and to the boy who claims he won't support LFC if we get relegated why not just H off and suport Chelski now - we don't want or need your sort.
Bob
09 Oct 2010 17:45:30
"I posted recently that a contact of mine who works for a company in Dallas reckons that Hicks could still pull a rabbit from a hat and refinance elsewhere, and this may be why he is stalling"
He is already too late to pull that rabbit out. The board have already agreed to sell the club, Hicks will only succeed if he can prove that he can make board changes, if he can , then Purslow and Ayres were effectively sacked when the board met and the acceptance of the bid is void.
If he can finance that's great news to us, he can pay RBS which means no possibility of 9 points deduction and when the NESV sale is complete he gets the 240m not RBS . . but I cannot imagine him doing that , arranging the finance would cost him a fair few millions , and he can't be that stupid . is he?
Roy
09 Oct 2010 17:39:12
I can't believe some of the donkeys who post on here. If somebody hasn't got some truth to post on here then either keep it shut or f*ck off to another site.
The buyout will go through, we will have new transfers in January, we will have a bigger stadium, either new or a bigger Anfield. It doesn't matter that the owners don't have Sheik or Roman amount of money, but with the new restrictions coming in it won't matter. As long as we have a level playing field we will be amongst the richest clubs in Europe as we make more profit than most. Ed am I right in saying that clubs cannot spend more than they make in profit under the new restrictions.
09 Oct 2010 17:37:36
What are the chances of us goin in administration. at first talk of relegation made me laugh but if we were to go into admin, there is the possibilty. quite worried tbh
09 Oct 2010 17:37:25
Ex-Liverpool X1
GK:Friedel
RB:Arbeloa
RCB:Hyypia
LCB:Warnock
LB:Riise
RM:Bellamy
CM:Mascherano
CM:Alonso
LM:Benayoun
ST:Crouch
ST:Cisse
What You Think Editor?
{Editor's note - What am I meant to think?}
09 Oct 2010 17:32:41
{Editor's Note: Arda has repeatedly been linked to Liverpool and has on several occasions made it clear to the press that he wishes to play for the club. He is of a value that Liverpool could afford and his present side may well be interested in taking Ryan Babel in part exchange.}
ED, arda contracted with Galatasaray until?
{Editor's note - I am not sure}
09 Oct 2010 17:32:16
I am one of those who would have preferred a sugar daddy for our club, unlike the ED and Sharkey I think in a couple of years City will be a stable rich champions self sufficient with investments in many sporting areas.
BUT . None of the sugar daddies came forward, NESV did .
Many in here have already giving them the G&H treatment before they even got the keys .
NESV consist of 17 investors in total, with wealth over 5 billion dollars between them . but that's not important, what is important is what they did with the Red SOX :
1- Red SOX value is now 25% more than the 700m NESV bought it for
2- Under NESV they won the world series for the first time in 84 years . and won it again few years later
3- They increased the stadium capacity by over 30% and under NESV every game was a sell out
4- NESV always listened to the Red Sox fans, it was the fans decision to expand the existing stadium instead of building new one
5- NESV will not interfere in the footballing matters, they do media/ finance/ PR and investment, they will (try to) get the players the manager wants, they won't force a Shevchenko or a Robinho on the manager and demand he shapes the team around them.
6- They know PR and media , and that is very important , they will spread the Liverpool brand all over america and asia , increasing revenue and making it easier to attract any player the club wants.
Roy
09 Oct 2010 17:31:51
09 Oct 2010 09:58:02
I read on caughtoffside, that in january mancini is planning a 50m package for torres with tevez coming the other way, i know this is aload of b*ll*cks but when i thought about it, at the presant moment in time i wud take the offer. i think torres is great, but his body langauge is awfull at the moment, he has got worse season after season, form injuries etc, where as tevez has got better year after year.if torres is having a bad game then he goes missing whereas with tevez he still gives you 110%. tevez plus 20m with 20 -30m from new owners in jan cud allow us to make bids for defour from standard liege 12m, banega from valencia 20m, 2 ball winning midfielders with the creativity to play the ball forward, (the alonso type player) giving gerrard the free role he revels , and mata also of valencia 15m plus ryan babel, play in a 4 3 3 / 4 5 1 defour, gerrard, and banega in the middle with cole, mata and tevez up top.
reina
johnson carragher agger conchesky
defour gerrard banega
cole tevez mata
does any one agree with that first 11?
I agree with the Tevez part,
but not replacing anyone in the back 5 in madness, we need 3 new defenders if im being honest,
carra - past it,
konches - poor,
johnson - poor and should play right wing, ,
Banega would be a great signing but not needed right away, Agger could also fill in at centre mid holding, at right back id go for cesar azpilicueta,
centre back leave them there and worry about them next summer, left back fernando navarro is a player i like aswell, banega holding midfield with gerrard and cole ahead, id sign turan and play johnson on the right. .
So this would be my team, , ,
. . . . . . . . . . . .Reina. . . . . . . . .
. .Azpilicueta. .Carra. .Agger/ Skrtel. . Navarro
. . . . . . . . . .Banega/ Agger. . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . .Gerrard. . . . . Cole. . . . . . . . .
. Johnson. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Turan. . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . .Torres/ Tevez. . . . . . . . . . .
Good side, anyone agree, , ED?
I put tevez up with torres incase that deal with city ever happened
09 Oct 2010 17:29:06
Why do people still only see what they want? The court case is to decide if the 'Mr. Broughton is the only person that can change the board' clause was indeed inserted into the contract that was drawn up when the re finance was done earlier this year. If it was then Liverpool F.C. will belong to NESV. If not then it still belongs G & H.
No other party/ buyer is now involved, if G & H are right then they have a majority in the board room because Purslow & Ayre will have been legitimately removed and will sell either break the club and sell it bit by bit as a last act of vengance, or they will just sit on the board and veto every offer that comes in hoping that someone comes forward with an offer that makes them a tidy profit.
The car dealership comments do not make any sense as THEY ARE TAKING LEGAL ACTION OVER A CLAUSE IN THE CONTRACT! NOT THE VALUE OF THE CLUB.
(Don't forget that between them they do have the money to pay off the debt, they both sold sporting interests last year, the only thing stopping them is the £110m already put in & £240m To RBS would ensure they never make any profit. I bet they do it if they win the court battle.)
09 Oct 2010 17:18:42
The basis of H&G's challenge is that they have the power to replace the directors if their interests are blatantly being ignored in favour of the bank's interests. If they can demonstrate that the directors were trying to commit to sell for just sufficient to cover the lending, and that the company is worth more than the amount being accepted, H&G will win the case. If they cannot demonstrate this then Broughton will win. Either way, whoever loses will almost certainly automatically appeal against the verdict.
I posted recently that a contact of mine who works for a company in Dallas reckons that Hicks could still pull a rabbit from a hat and refinance elsewhere, and this may be why he is stalling.
09 Oct 2010 16:59:38
Hi guys, before you slag me off please read all my post. now we all want hicks and gillet to move on but as for slagging them off, for all i agree with most of it, you can't blame them for wanting more money. theese are the guys that gave us torres, mascherano, johnson etc (as well as a few duds, but that's benitez fault!) and they are gonna feel agreived by whats happening! . now don't read this as a sympathy post as i couldnt care less what they got as long as they have gone by the jan transfer window. but lets wait and see what the new owner has to say before we start posting players that we would like to see in a red shirt, hopefully with a calibre better than carleton cole. and ed, is this rumour of a 9 point penalty true? i was led to believe that if things went wrong the club couldnt be punished as they have covered their backs already? also the regular posters, blair mayne, etc have you any thoughts? regards, yorkshirescouse.
{Editor's Note: There is a possibility of a penalty - but we should perhaps wait 10 days to see what happens.}
09 Oct 2010 16:54:02
2 weeks ago MB was confident that the 9 pt deduction would not be applied.
Now that the sale has been agreed the premier league are saying that the 9 pt deduction will be applied.
Are they trying to influence the Judge ahead of the court case?
The sale to NESV is in the clubs best interest.
{Editor's Note: The Premier League have not said anything of the sort. It could, not will, be applied. There are many stages to go through before we need to worry about that.}
09 Oct 2010 16:50:08
Tevez is a talented INDIVIDUAL not team player and don't care about clubs or his team mates he stirs s* t everywhere he goes think when Torres gets fit goals will flow so let's get behind him it's his 1st drought for us tevez has always had 3 quality strikers so he could be rested Torres is payin the cost of our only quality striker playin everytime he's fit gettin lumps kicked out of him all these injuries result back to when that t* t from reading in fa cup blaytenly took hom out and f*cked his knee now we need to get behind the team wat you think ed?
Robbie fowler is god
{Editor's Note: I could understand uyour post if you added some punctuation.}
09 Oct 2010 16:44:18
History repeating itself (H&G versus DIC - 2007)
Major players from the far/ middle east are once again ignored in favour of small time Americans without the resources to take the club forward.
Brown envelopes being passed under the table I reckon.
Lets hope the rumours of the Singapore consortium (or others with serious resources) still being in the frame are true. {ed's note - you clearly are completely out of touch with the reality of the situation if you think these are small time without the resources to take us forward.}
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
QUITE AGREE ED.
With the new rules coming in stating a club can only spend what they make in profit each year sugar daddys r useless anyway
09 Oct 2010 16:42:54
I for one will always support liverpool fc for ever and if everything goes the way every fan wants it to i would like to see us be given at least 30-50 mill to spend first we get the chance to buy.
This is the team id like to see
- - - - - - Reina- - - - - -
-johnson- carragher- hangeland-agger
- - - - - - -Alonso- - - - -
cole- - - - -gerrard- - - - marin
- - - - - torres- benzema- - - - -
the only one i think wouldn't happen would be alonso but if not we will have merelies
But that's just wishful thinkin and hope
09 Oct 2010 16:35:22
Does anyone know where the court case is being held and what day? ?it would be good to have as many supporters there as possible to show the judges what these clowns are doing to our club. .Do you know anything Ed. .
{Editor's Note: I am afraid I don't know.}
09 Oct 2010 16:16:45
I live in leeds and work all over the country. I am currently in woking and have a friend who works for RBS and he knows the account manager for the Kop holdings Loan account and he said that there is no reason why RBS will call in the loan as RBS can apply more fines and fees to Kop holdings. They will continue to make a return and the debt is only 80% of the clubs Net Book Value. The only time they may find it necessary to call in the loan is when the value of the club falls to a par or less than the loan amount. E.G the team gets relegated or no european competition.
{Editor's Note: More nonsence.}
09 Oct 2010 16:14:13
Brilliant to see Brian Reade of The Daily Mirror put current 'darling of the media and press' 'our arry' Redknapp in his place in his article this morning. This comes after Redknapp's support of Hicks and Gillett in his article this week. I personally think alot of the bile from 'arry goes back to his and Jamie's dislike of Rafa from previous years.
09 Oct 2010 16:14:07
09 Oct 2010 10:44:32
Ed- when Hicks and Gillette were sold our beloved club by Moores and Parry there was another Arab bid on the table. This I understand was not based on a leveraged buyout situation.
I believe that there was also an Arab bid this time round over which the NESV bid has been preferrred. Is there a reluctance to sell to wealthy Arabs? A hint of racism perhaps? {ed's note - not at all mate, this is not about racism, the choice was made because the Americans have a proven track record in this area.}
Do we really need someone with a proven track record
Did Roman Abramavich come with a proven track record and to a lesser degree did Shaikh Mansour have any track record in football?
My own view is that there is a fear of selling to rich Arab billionaires but whether that is the same as racism, well only the board knows
{Editor's Note: Two firm bids were made - neither from the Middle East. One bid was accepted and that is where we are now.}
09 Oct 2010 16:10:24
Fans talking about money and so on, it not all about money its about a plan and Broughton, Purslow & Aryes have come to the conclusion that NESV are the best for the club and are the Consortium to take Liverpool were they belong at the top of football once again. But for the people talking about money, as someone has already stated there is 15 member of NESV and all come together to invest as a group, so if you average each individual wealth which my guess is around 400/ 500 million but don't quote me on that, that figure times 15 investors = 7.5billion that's my max estimate by the way, that's the same wealth as Roman Abramovich
James Mc
09 Oct 2010 16:04:31
Ed , what are your thoughts on the court case and the chances of us going into admin. and is it true henry will be there.
ngs77
{Editor's Note: It is unclear what the court case will be about for a start. I have no idea about whether Henry will be there or not. It seems some parties are planning on protesting the old and new owners at the court case - which is way beyond my comprehension.}
09 Oct 2010 15:57:52
Ed, you seem very confident that the takeover will happen and that NESV will be good for the club. Whilst I would like to share your confidence, I have a few doubts that we may be jumping from the frying pan into the fire. Why are you so confident? Have you no reservations at all over the possible new owners?
Fabian Treezle
{Editor's Note: I guess the other question is why are you not confident about owners with a track record of success built upon responsible ownership and managed grwoth? Would you rather Hicks and Gillett stayed for another year whilst the club is floated on the stockmarket or a buyer that suits them is found?}
09 Oct 2010 15:55:12
If the new owners they have the guts to built the relationship and gain again liverpool on track and show the love to this club they have a mountin to climb now , (a) cause we lost our great midfield under rafa with alonso , mascherano , gerrard .(b) we lost some players up front crouch , garcia for example . (c) at the back we lost some to riise , sammy for example and now they need to buy world class at the back lb bastos , cd cahill ., in the midfield schwinstaiger , muller , up front young , mata , fabiano and we will be unbeatable again and the formation in the hands of the maneger how he can start the first 11 and who is on the bench Y.N.W.A MALTA
09 Oct 2010 15:47:48
Liverpool will go into the merseyside derby with -3 points.
we need to start it all over again. fact
YNWA
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
And we will come out of it on 0 points!
Fabian Treezle
09 Oct 2010 15:43:11
Ok, here's what we do:
Soon as possible: Roy out -> Kenyny Dalglish/ Phil Thompson in! !
January:
IN: Mata (15m+Swap), Suazo (6m) = 21m
OUT: Jovanovic (7m), Maxi (Swap), Itandje (1.2m) = 8.2m
team to season end: Reina, Johnson, Carragher, Agger, Koncheskey, Cole, Gerrard, Meireles, Mata, Torres, Kuyt
Subs: Jones, Skrtel, Aurelio, Lucas, Babel, Suazo, N'Gog
Summer:
IN:
Taye Taiwo (Free)
Phillipe Mexes (7m)
Pablo Hernandez (8m)
Ever Banega (12m)
Fernando Gago (8m)
Fernando Llorente (9m)
Total: 44m
OUT:
Fabio Aurelio (4m)
Lucas (9m)
Spearing (2m)
Poulsen (6m)
Skrtel (11m)
Aquilini (16m)
Degen (4m)
El Zhar (1.5m)
Gulacsi (500k)
Insua (2m)
N'Gog (4m)
Kyrgiakos (4m)
Brouwer + Simon (1m)
Total = 65m
Squad:
GK: Reina, Jones, Bouzanis
RB: Johnson, Kelly, Darby
CB: Carragher, Mexes, Agger, Wilson, Ayala
LB: Taiwo, Koncheskey, Robinson
RM: Pablo, Babel, Amoo
CM: Gerrard, Meireles, Banega, Gago, Shelvey, Suso
LM: Cole, Mata, Ince
FW: Torres, Kuyt, Llorente, Suazo, Pacheco, Eccleston, Saric
Reserves:
Irwin, Hansen, Palsson, Wisdom, Bruna, Mavinga, Mendy, Cooper, Kohlert , Roberts, Chamberlain
09 Oct 2010 15:39:32
I think people are getting a little bit too excited when they are talking about the January window. I believe NESV will be willing to invest heavily if it is necessary but you cannot make more than 2-3 changes in January without disrupting the sqad. I think the most needed players are a winger and a striker. My preferred options:
-Juan Mata LW Valencia (15m or 10m plus Babel)
Great creative young player who can actually run at a defender and get to the byline to put in crosses. I cannot see why they would want Babel but it was on the club website. Valencia is in huge debt and they would have to sell if we put in a good enough offer.
-Andy Carrol ST Newcastle (10-15m)
Carrol is a young player that is proven in the English leagues and would help our homegrown quota. He is a big strong player that can hold up the ball and also bag his share of goals. Also a heading threat. I feel he can be the perfect fill-in for Torres when Nando is injured. I realise he just signed a new contract but they will accept if the offer is good enough and we might throw in a player to sweeten it (Poulson please). I hope he gets a hair cut if we buy if though. Not a fan of the ponytail on men.
Next summer we can make more extreme changes to the sqad and bring in the likes of Banega, Hazard, Taiwo, and Cahill but those two buys should help us turn this year around and get back in the top 4. Thoughts?
-the anfield rapstar {ed's note - if we are sinking as low as buying Carroll, we might as well accept relegation. He has no movement whatsoever, lacks the same ability to anticipate that our current young strikers all struggle with and he is a walking attitude who spends most of his time fighting with his team mates. He is just a big lump to stand in the middle of the box, he offers very little else at all in my opinion.}
09 Oct 2010 15:32:54
"09 Oct 2010 14:15:17
Ah i love it when a cone head bites! One nil to me. Funny how you felt obliged to defend your kind in such a ridiculously pompous manner. I am merely entertaining myself whilst flying club to JFK."
ha classic, you couldn't resist being hypocritical and replying though could you, just as i predicted - one all. Added to that your desperate need to convince others that you are somehow just killing time and that this is in fact beneath you, i make that two-one to me. But fair play for proving that you're not a loser equally as bad as those he's criticising for pointless posting on such sites. You've certainly won a moral victory there and i'm now certain your riposte has convinced everyone that you're not actually sat in a bedsit in your pants ridiculing others because you lack self worth and emotional fulfilment.
Btw, I'm currently taking my private jet to the Bahamas - see, we can all BS on t'internet. I look forward to your reply helping prove my point, unless of course you manage to drag yourself to the moral high ground and not post, but i think we both know that's about as far fetched as you being able to afford club class don't we? ;)
09 Oct 2010 15:32:18
09 Oct 2010 10:51:02
Why don't we invite Broughton into the centre circle and sing him a lovely song? Why don't we buy a big lump of lovely cheese and worship it like its our saviour?
I think a bit of respect for the way Broughton, Purslow & Ayre have tried their hardest deserves some appreciation. I wouldn't being going as far as putting a statue up, but none the less a little respect is due!
The Irish Rover
09 Oct 2010 15:22:31
LFC for life, why would you want dawson ftom hull for?? oh you foolishly mean dawson the captain of spurs? not in a million years would he want to leave spurs to join liverpool! and that my little scouse friend is the truth
09 Oct 2010 15:04:16
We should buy alexis sanchez, i almost forgot how good he was and still only 21. If you don't know hes a Right Winger from UDINESE and from CHILE!
Has anyone seen him play. Ed?
Harry5:)redsox {ed's note - the lad is awesome and he wants to play in England, though his first choice would be United. Pace and trickery galore, plus he can cross which is something no one else in our squad seems capable of doing well.}
09 Oct 2010 14:51:25
Well doesn't take awy from the fact he or she is a tosser and a very sad tosser if the have to go on a liverpool site and even post anything id find it very hard to even punch the words of another club into my browser :)))
king henry
09 Oct 2010 14:48:47
WOW woke this morning and read the Mail on-line about this American dude, I know most of you will be saying why read the mail in the first place but I like to do the rounds in all the papers and what the Mail says actually makes sense.
They simply do not have the money, cash or assets to take us forward and this Walker guy has a track record of buying and selling sport franchises, I am seriously seriously worried now. They will have no choice but to take a loan out if they where to buy us let alone develop the stadium plus transfers, I think we are all in agreement here that we need at least 4 world class players to compete, world class means a price tag of at least 20 - 30m, you could say we need to invest about 100m just to get us up to the standard we demand and they don't have that cash they simply don't!
I can't see them taking loans out for playing staff, so the bottom line is we will be a mid table team for many years to come, solvent yes but mid table. Not good not good fellow reds fans, out of the frying pan. . . . . .
A very worried
Tobey
09 Oct 2010 14:43:17
09 Oct 2010 13:44:50
"The key to this is that both bids were accepted. The other group could strike a deal with the shareholders - as Broughton has already described BOTH as fantastic bids."
Only one bid has been accepted. Anything Martin Broughton said about both being fantastic is him being polite - nothing more.
Sharkey.
09 Oct 2010 14:37:32
Regarding our defense, i think that we might have loaned out one of our best in Danny Ayala. I hope that if the takeover happens we'll sign a winger with the ability as well as the attitude, cause we've got kuyt with the mentality but not the skill and babel with skill but no mentality. a new LB would be nice as well
09 Oct 2010 14:36:01
We need at least 4 - 6 signings in january , without a doubt a striker and a couple of wingers. we might not sign all these , but these are the players we need to be looking at.
CB : Shawcross , cahill , Dawson ( all english and good solid defenders , we definatly need another english cb )
CM: get rid of lucas n poulsen. leaves us stevie G and meireles , so we are gonna need to add another one , and we need a proper good DM
Lass Diarra ( solid player , gives 100% commitment)
Alonso ( u never know we could make a move for him and see what happens would love to have him back , World class player )
Banega ( ive heard alot on here about him being a decent player , ive seen him few times in la liga and he does look decent)
Wingers:
Juan mata ( we have gota make a move for him , great young player gives us great width on the left + valencia are in big debt , as ive heard previously on here i think babel + about £10-12m should be enough.)
Arda turan ( has said before that he would love to play for liverpool , so that is the sort of players we need who are going to give 100% for the club, great player! )
Also we need a RM someone with pace and who can take people on and cross a ball.
Strikers:
Edin dzeko: scores goals , great target man and is an aerial threat which is what we lack with just torres and ngog.
Diego forlan: Has come out and said that he would welcome a move back to the premier league , could get him on the cheap i reckon because of his age and desire to move. best player at the world cup , so we know he has ability. ( even if he is an Ex mank )
sergio Aguero: Alot of us liverpool fans would agree with this one , cracking player , hes still young and is almost like a tevez type of player. only problem would be his price tag £20m +
LFC FOR LIFE
09 Oct 2010 14:22:15
And there I was thinking Liverpools supporters are supposed to be the best in the world. . and here I've witnessed them slagging each other off, and saying they won't support OUR team if WE go down!
It seems the rot and negativity that have oozed from the boardroam, to the pitch to the stands is now working its way on to here!
No matter how disappointed I am with the current situation or performances, I will never turn my back on this Club!
El Diablo!
09 Oct 2010 14:15:17
Ah i love it when a cone head bites! One nil to me. Funny how you felt obliged to defend your kind in such a ridiculously pompous manner. I am merely entertaining myself whilst flying club to JFK.
09 Oct 2010 13:59:39
Who else reckons Torres went pony after he cut his hair off? Sure he looked the spit of Bruno but the lad was on fire with that mullet! Maybe he is the modern day Sampson!
09 Oct 2010 13:57:58
"09 Oct 2010 13:29:45
Journalists peruse this site? What for? To make themselves feel relieved that they actually have a life and career? Or perhaps to just marvel at the nonsense that some supposed Liverpool fans decide to share with their fellow plastic cone heads around the globe. Maybe if we all sent in 50p each we could buy Messi for the team? Or maybe if we all think really hard together we will make the team win."
Well done for dismissing the drivel of others by merely adding your own. Give yourself a pat on the back, or are you one of the lucky ones you deem to have a life and thus of course you won't be replying to this? Obviously a man of your intelligence would see that replying to such a post as this one would prove that you spend time reading the site and thus are just as bad as those you seek to condemn and we all know you're not a hypocrite simply spouting bile for the hell of it don't we? Best of luck with all the important things you'll no doubt be doing rather than reading this or contemplating replying, the entire readership will sorely miss your charm and wit.
09 Oct 2010 13:50:44
I tell you right now if we get relegated i will NOT be supporting Liverpool anymore!
What a disgrace. . . .
Macca
09 Oct 2010 13:42:07
I tell you right now if we get relegated i will NOT be supporting Liverpool anymore!
09 Oct 2010 13:39:53
09 Oct 2010 10:30:20
sammy lee is a carp coach and should be replaced. personally i would go for gary macallister
I thought he was a salmon coach but suppose we could replace him with Ryan Sharkross or Prawn wright phillips
Kopite70
09 Oct 2010 13:31:38
Ed,
If the NESV do takeover, do you think that Purslow and Ayres will remain on the board? Obv Broughton will leave as he was only overseeing the sale, but surely the other two have done such a good job in raising sponsorships etc then it would make sense to keep them on board. This would allow us to continue to operate as a business and live within our means, which I believe would be the best for us rather than a rich Sheik who may leave once he's bored. I personally think that too many people are too obsessed with money rather than the future security of the club.
We don't want to end up with a load of mercenarys like city etc. {ed's note - I really have no idea who will be on the board once a takeover is completed mate.}
09 Oct 2010 13:29:45
Journalists peruse this site? What for? To make themselves feel relieved that they actually have a life and career? Or perhaps to just marvel at the nonsense that some supposed Liverpool fans decide to share with their fellow plastic cone heads around the globe. Maybe if we all sent in 50p each we could buy Messi for the team? Or maybe if we all think really hard together we will make the team win.
09 Oct 2010 13:16:22
Wow a deep thinking intellect who thinks he is funny posting about monkey's faeces. Well done, give yourself a banana my man as you have just proved one hundred percent that the nerks on here have about as much insight as a dead badger! I can only imagine what you get up to under that duvet of yours. Oh, while you are around could i please have your bank account number and sort code as i want to put some cash in there for you pal!
09 Oct 2010 13:01:34
Broughton, Purslow & Ayre are doing their bit ensuring Liverpool moves forward. A little bit more to do and we wish them luck
The fans have been doing their bit, still turning up week in, week out. Organising and attending marches, emails to banks, letters to government, videos I could go on
WELL ITS ABOUT TIME THE MANAGER AND PLAYERS SHOWED THE SAME ATTITUDE AND COMMITMENT ON THE PITCH. RH IF YOUR READING YES WE COULD HAVE 9 POINTS DEDUCTED SO PULL YOUR FINGER, INSTILL CONFIDENCE INTO THE BOYS AND MORE IMPORTANTLY GO ONTO THE PITCH WITH A SET UP TO WIN THE MATCH
09 Oct 2010 12:45:59
. . . . .this well thought out critique of postings on this site is so insightful, witty and superbly constructed and not at all reminiscent of the type of random letters you'd find strung together when a chimp throws its faeces at a typewriter. . . .
people do say journalists peruse this site. . . i think perhaps maybe one of the S*N writers decided to leave a post mate. .Duckula
09 Oct 2010 12:40:38
". .So lets do a example say hodgson says he wants drogba and chelsea say they want 40m and all of the investors agree that he is the type of player we need they will all give cash so 16 divided by 40 = about 2.1m so therefor they will all chip in 2.1m. . "
That's not exactly how a large organization is run my friend. They're not all chipping in for a round of drinks.
Frenchy
09 Oct 2010 12:24:35
HI EDS IS IT RIGHT NESV IS MADE UP OF 16 IN TOTAL AN THAT MONEY IS NO WORRY WHOT SO EVER FOR NESV?? ? IVE HEARD THEY ALL HAVE WORKED TOGETHER FOR A VERY LONG TIME AN THAT THEY (VOTE) ON, , AN (ACT) ON. THE (VOTE)? THATS THE WAY THEY WORK? IF SO THIS WILL BE GREAT TIMES AHEAD LFC FANS WALK ON WALK ON, , JUST (THINK) IF IT (WORKS) THAT WAY THEN HAPPY DAYS WHEN THEY ALL PUT IN (MONEY) IN 2 LFC HOW MUCH COULD WE HAVE FOR, , , (PLAYERS), , A NEW HOME 4 (ARE) LFC 2 PLAY IN, , , OR JUST REVAMP (ARE) HOME THAT WOULD BE COOL 2, , ALL 16 (WORKING) AS (1) TEAM SOUNDS SO GOOD ED DO U KNOW IF ITS TRUE, , , , , PLUS ANY LATEST INFO PLEASE ED, , , JAY ESSEX RED 4 LIFE FOREVER RED TILL DEAD {ed's note - I am not actually sure how many are involved in NESV, depending on which report you believe there are between 11 and 18 obscenely rich guys involved. Money is not a problem, but they are not sugar daddies, they want a profitable business in return for their investment.}
09 Oct 2010 12:10:19
"09 Oct 2010 10:30:51
You lot on here are cone headed saddos! Searching tinternet for hot goss and facts. .wow arent you like so amazing! Heres an idea, why don't you leave your cosy little bedrooms and ACTUALLY visit Liverpool, its a real place you know! Factiod number 7000 i want gerrard to wear blue socks during a game to show he loves me. And 7001 i really didn't read what i just wrote in the paper honest i didnt, please like me ive watched Liverpool on the telly for like ever!"
I think it's just plain mean of Mr Editor to publish this remark. I haven't stopped crying all morning because this well thought out critique of postings on this site is so insightful, witty and superbly constructed and not at all reminiscent of the type of random letters you'd find strung together when a chimp throws its faeces at a typewriter. You sir have hurt my feelings - i'm off to hide under my duvet and listen to Coldplay!
09 Oct 2010 11:54:35
09 Oct 2010 10:01:18
"unsigned asked at 09 Oct 2010 00:17:56:
"Can someone tell me what hicks and gillete get out of this court case because from what i can see if they lose the case they will have spent loads of money on loyers and other stuff. and if they win they keep control of the club and ccant pay back debts so lose more money to intrest. i am probably wrong which is why im asking"
Ideally they are looking for agreement that the Board acted illegally in selling the club. Really anything that would buy them some time would be a good result. In terms of money the costs would be a couple of days of a Barristers time only - the legal staff are being paid for as a matter of course in the day-to-day running of their businesses.
Sharkey.
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If they get a ruling to say that they had reorganised the board legally, i.e. sacking CP and IA then they will get a lot out of this. That means they have their own men on the board meaning the can refinance the using club assets. We definitely do want a ruling saying they acted legally by sacking CP and IA it would be bad, very bad.
09 Oct 2010 11:51:06
Im also DISAPPOINTED with your spelling. worse than a school boy! Ha ha!
09 Oct 2010 11:48:08
Swap torrers for tevez because of his school boy attitude? And how old are you five? This isn't champ manager you chump. .this is like plastics annoymous. .best comedy site on the net!
09 Oct 2010 11:23:48
I agree with the guy about letting torres go.Get a load of money and tevez who always gives 100%.Torres has really disapionted me with with his schoolboy sulking attitude.He can piss off.We can do better. YNWA
09 Oct 2010 11:15:35
Harry5 see you had a pop at uniteds targets! thing is they are one hell of a bigger draw than your lot, and also when it comes post's of stupidity you and your so called fellow scousers do come top by a country mile when it comes to players your so called going to buy before you lol at other fans take a step back and with your pool shirt on take a look in the mirror and then lol cheers boy
09 Oct 2010 11:14:24
NESV to take over.
Roy Hodgson might be able to hold onto his job.
Dzeko (£23m + Babel) will partner Torres.
Taiwo (£6m) will fill in at left-back.
Éver Banega (£8.5m) will replace Mascherano.
Ryan Shawcross (£10m) will replace Carragher
Juan Mata (£10m + Babel) or Turan (£10m + Babel) will fill in at left mid
TOTAL= 57.5m
09 Oct 2010 10:51:02
Why don't we invite Broughton into the centre circle and sing him a lovely song? Why don't we buy a big lump of lovely cheese and worship it like its our saviour?
09 Oct 2010 10:30:51
You lot on here are cone headed saddos! Searching tinternet for hot goss and facts. .wow arent you like so amazing! Heres an idea, why don't you leave your cosy little bedrooms and ACTUALLY visit Liverpool, its a real place you know! Factiod number 7000 i want gerrard to wear blue socks during a game to show he loves me. And 7001 i really didn't read what i just wrote in the paper honest i didnt, please like me ive watched Liverpool on the telly for like ever!
09 Oct 2010 10:30:20
sammy lee is a carp coach and should be replaced. personally i would go for gary macallister
09 Oct 2010 09:58:02
I read on caughtoffside, that in january mancini is planning a 50m package for torres with tevez coming the other way, i know this is aload of b*ll*cks but when i thought about it, at the presant moment in time i wud take the offer. i think torres is great, but his body langauge is awfull at the moment, he has got worse season after season, form injuries etc, where as tevez has got better year after year.if torres is having a bad game then he goes missing whereas with tevez he still gives you 110%. tevez plus 20m with 20 -30m from new owners in jan cud allow us to make bids for defour from standard liege 12m, banega from valencia 20m, 2 ball winning midfielders with the creativity to play the ball forward, (the alonso type player) giving gerrard the free role he revels , and mata also of valencia 15m plus ryan babel, play in a 4 3 3 / 4 5 1 defour, gerrard, and banega in the middle with cole, mata and tevez up top.
reina
johnson carragher agger conchesky
defour gerrard banega
cole tevez mata
does any one agree with that first 11?
09 Oct 2010 09:50:00
Liverpool cannot under any circumstances go into admin and loose 9 points as it is kop holding that will bare the debt which is a completely diffrent company and the football club itself is stable enough to go on lfc for life
09 Oct 2010 09:26:21
Broughton said keep the faith!
We need to do exactly that, he knows fully well they have ousted the blobs. Good times ahead, a stable club, boardroom, and squad. The golden sky is nearing when alot of us, including myself thought the storm would rage on!
09 Oct 2010 08:02:41
So where is Keith Harris now? Didnt he said 300M pound is too little to bid for Liverpool regarding Kenny Huang and seriously undervalued. So what about Henry & Asian bidding for 300M pound now? That man is a joke
09 Oct 2010 07:46:22
Just had info passed to me late last night around next weeks court hearing. Broughton, Purslow, Ayre have every right to be confident that we will win. Dont forget, Slaughter and May are the most respected Aquisition law firms around, a step ahead of the Yanks company. Also, Purslow is now dummy either. He has a lot of contacts law wise around the world. They have studied this obviously before being so bold to put this out there and sell the club.
If it did go wrong Broughton has plan b, c, d e etc lined up. The new owner is a very good friend of Barcaps ceo, who is good friends with MB who has excellent working arrangements with Hester the RBS chairman. Months ago a meeting was held to plan for this eventuality between all these. In the event a crazy judge awards Hicks, then the other plans will come into place. NOW THIS IS WHERE IT GETS INTERESTING. RBS WILL NOT PUT LFC INTO Admin, they will grant an exclusive extension to end as soon as the appeal process which will be very short, finishes. If this is not agreeable the other plan is that BARCAP buy us and then sell us to NSEV when the appeal is over. That is why BARCAP where brought in from the beginning. An insurance. This has been planned right before the last two re-fi's. HICKS N GILLETT HAVE BEEN OUT THOUGHT, OUTPLAYED AND OUTSMARTED.
MY PERSONAL OPINION, IS THAT WE WILL WIN OUTRIGHT ON MONDAY, HEARING FOR AN APPEAL WILL BE THURS IF HICKS DOES. SO THAT WILL FAIL AND WE WILL HAVE NEW OWNERS.
ATTICUS FINCH
09 Oct 2010 07:44:36
If liverpool have the funds in jan. all we should do is try to sign Luis Suarez. although he may cost us around 20-22 million, however he is every gran worth it. saw him play a couple of times and everytime either ajax or his national team scores, he's directly or indirectly involved in it.he would be a perfect partner to Torres.i guess itself he scored a hat-trick in int. friendly. so wat say Ed? ?are there any drawbacks? ?
{Editor's Note: No drawbacks but is he for sale and would he come?}
Dan Roger.
09 Oct 2010 05:49:40
Ed, do you know, when Liverpool would head towards court? Whats the date? I hope Hicks looses. . Thanks
{Editor's Note: Sometime next week.}
09 Oct 2010 05:15:36
Took my car into a dealership yesterday and the salesman offered me £4,000 - what a cheek!
I believe my car is worth at least £8,000 so I demanded the salesman be sacked so my son could have his job. If he isn't fired I'll sue the garage. I'll just hang on to my car until someone offers me £8,000 so I can pay off the £6,000 Finance and keep some cash in my pocket.
Ring any bells?
09 Oct 2010 05:03:36
I just heard that we will get 25m in january if takeover happens i'd buy honda and turan
09 Oct 2010 04:55:36
do you agree that spearing and shelvey should be ahead of poulsh1te and lucas in the pecking order?
09 Oct 2010 03:20:49
I meantioned a statue for broughton earlier, i reallise some fans will think this is abit much, but i do think a permenant aknowledge of some kind is deserved, after all the man saved our club and all the history and everything associated with it.
09 Oct 2010 03:02:05
I think we should chant broughtans name through out the merseyside derby. also do our best to make him stay in some capacity. don't underestimate wat this man has done for our club. a statue wouldn, t be out of order in my opinnion
09 Oct 2010 02:27:27
Story is.
Broughton and Purslow were p&ssed the Kop fans stuck up a flag with them and the two yanks in a bad light.
Broughton and Purslow then decided that enough was enough and they really arnt the enemies of Liverpool. To prove this, there plan was to get rid of the old regime and bring in a new one.
Hicks was pissed that broughton wanted to sell the club to a stable bidder but at half the cost of the asking price so Hicks retaliated by dismissing him and the board.
The board ain't going down without a fight so they sell the club. Enhance their reputation and secure a future.
To play Hicks they needed public support. They new this was the best way to become folk hero's and gain support. All this is planned since blackpool match.
Hicks is livvid with the board and fans and now wants to strip the club of all assets including selling it's stars at cut prices.
Expect a dirty fight from both party's with mr red sox coming in towards the end. Still twists n turns yet guys
Hey ED maybe its time for a new section called Bullsh@t alley and this bollox can be the first post.
09 Oct 2010 02:02:13
My gut feeling and I've been thinking all along that everything will be sorted by the 16Th Oct.
Hicks n Gillette gone at last!
and Us supporters can start concentrating on Football again and not this.
Cannot wait to see the backs of the two greedy muppets.
09 Oct 2010 01:57:25
THE 4 PLAYERS ARE
SHAWCROSS
GOMEZ
MATA
ALONSO
3 OUT
BABEL
MAXI
LUCAS
09 Oct 2010 01:56:39
The new owners had promised to bring back liverpool to its former glory, i don't know how that's possible without big spending, the rumours of player signings i got from reliable sites like goal.com
Liverpool line up
Riena
Konskesky Carragher Cahill johnson
Juan Mata Defour Gerrard j.Cole
Cavina Torres
Res:B.Jones, Aurelio, Skirtel, Kyrgiakos, Agger, Meireles, Poulsen, Rodríguez, Spearing, Kuyt, Jovanović, Ngog
Transfers in:
Cahill 14m + Darby
Juan mata 12m+ babel
Defour 13m
Cavina 20m
Out:
Lucas 8m ( to palermo)
Aqualani 14m ( to Juventus )
that equalls to a cost of around 37m for the new owners.
thanks
from smub
09 Oct 2010 01:37:58
Hi all, just a question more than a rumour, if we were deducted 9 points that would put us in minus point, would it still be possible to survive relegation?
scouse brown
08 Oct 2010 23:28:12
How many wealthy friends does a man like Hicks have left? has hicks gotten to the end of his little black book and now is worried. is hicks going to end up bankrupt after this. If he already lost his NFL, NHL and now LFC club. will we see hicks on a park-bench with tennents super saying i use to own that building.
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Twil be like that Eddie Murphy scene in Coming To America, one day Stevie G will be walking through a park and wilL stuff some cash into the hands of two sleeping bums. Hicks will wake up and say. .George. We're BACK!