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04 Apr 2015 13:11:56
Edd001, do you not feel mate can is wasted at the back? He should be in midfield with lucas and henderson

{Ed001's Note - yes, this system is stupid anyway, it only worked as surprise value. It is not a long term answer and requires virtually the entire team playing out of position. If Arsenal had not got lazy and stopped pressing from the front, we could have got slaughtered here. There are no out balls using this system, unless it catches the opposition by surprise, which it no longers does.}

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04 Apr 2015 13:23:57
He's a strange one, Can. Definitely a talented lad, has strength and an engine, but the few times he has actually played center midfield for us, he seems to struggle tactically and with his positioning, both when we have and haven't got the ball.

That being said, he's not really going to improve his positional play at central midfield whilst playing as a right sided center back.

04 Apr 2015 13:30:48
Don't worry ed there there is still plenty of time for us to get slaughtered

{Ed001's Note - I can see that *sighs*}

04 Apr 2015 13:32:27
Well the games over and cl hope. As I said we have been woeful starting games and defending and we have been punished by a decent team.
Rodgers has gotten It wrong again

04 Apr 2015 13:33:44
I'm surprised Bodgers hasn't put Stirling in goal and at 3-0 down brought Sturridge on for Moreno!

04 Apr 2015 13:38:51
I thought the same as you something red , when playing in midfield he's not looked as good as when playing in defence.

A question for everyone.

With CL looking unlikely would you rather is be in the EL or not?

04 Apr 2015 13:40:51
Tactically naive, errors all over the pitch. We do not deserve fourth place this season and unfortunately for Rogers this game could end any chance he had of staying on as manager.

04 Apr 2015 13:44:49
Can't wait to hear brendans excuses after this one,it will be nothing to do with him of course,how about playing people in the position they were playing when they impressed you enough to buy them.and change it when it's clearly going wrong,this game and united game both should have had tactical changes after 20 minutes.

04 Apr 2015 13:57:53
Tbh, the 343 did solve some problems that we we're having. But they were problems that really shouldn't have existed in the first place for my money.

1) It helped us get around our lack of a Premier League quality right back. A problem that wouldn't have existed if we'd retained either Martin Kelly or Andre Wisdom.

2) It papered over Skrtel's inability to cover ground and his weakness as a 1v1 defender. A problem that shouldn't have existed because we all saw it at least 18 months ago and Skrtel should've been replaced.

3) It helped us bring the ball out of the back by replacing the really deep DM with a center half, letting our other two centres keep the split higher up the pitch to give them more time on the ball to pick passes, and better angles for passes. But nearly every other worthwhile team in world football can bring the ball out of the back with a two centre backs. And Arsenal have today demonstrated that we can still be closed out of it anyway.

04 Apr 2015 13:58:02
Rob b

I thought we played well after 20 mins and had a couple of good chances.

We got caught with sloppy defending for the first goal.

04 Apr 2015 14:29:14
I would be very happy to have Can, Skertl and Sakho as our back three for next year as well. The problem is I don't think any of our other defenders are PL quality. Lovern, Toure, Johnson or Manquilolo, all get panicky very quickly. Today I thought Allen and Lucas were also really poor first half. Although, as with our game from the first day of the season our main problem was finishing and passing. Markovich is just not good enough, Moreno nothing to write home about, Cout's had one magic month and is back to where he was early season, and our 'it is not about money but I still expect more than 100k a week' is not a game changer.

I said all along that our important game this week is Blackbourn. CL has long gone. Just one word to all the 'BR go home guys' - if you think that a new manager will make from this squad a title contenders then you are kidding yourself. And the first thing you will hear from him is give me time. So there goes next season as well.

04 Apr 2015 14:33:17
and Can now red-carded. Icing on the cake.

If I was Brendan I would be dusting off my CV because he is definately going to need it. FSG are not going to be happy that 4th (and CL) is not very likely now - not after investing everything but the kitchen sink and their 401(k) into the club.

04 Apr 2015 14:52:35
Toure and Sahko are awful. How premier league footballers can be so incompetent with the ball is beyond me. Thought father Ted was yet again wrong with his team selection. Really liverpool have been woeful this season and it's only the fact that the prem is such a poor league we're not in real trouble. I hope rodgers is told thanks for your services in the summer he's just not clever enough.

{Ed001's Note - how are they incompetent with the ball? They are under orders to look for short passes and when they try and do so no one shows for it and then they are pressed. It is not their fault that there is no pass on, that is down to poor tactics. Both are very good technically. What is beyond me is how people can see so little when they watch a match, they focus so much on the ball they miss the important stuff!}

04 Apr 2015 14:52:57
Well that was an embarrassment. We could of been 3 down after 10 minutes but credit to Mignolet kept us in the game. Maybe should of been 1 up but a bad pass & Sterling can't get there. Why wasn't the boy sent of for giving the penalty away after being booked less than 5 minute's earlier, inconsistent refereeing. Said earlier that if we finished 5 to 7 would be a good season after the start. We could drop to 7th at the end of the weekend. Now How is Brendan going to lift this team for the Cup game? We aren't good enough, summer has to be a clear out. Not going to going to point finger's or name names but some just are not good enough to wear the red shirt.
Let's keep the faith even though we

04 Apr 2015 14:56:44
Fanobip, as the Ed said, the three at the back has been found out now. Why would you continue to play this system when its clearly not working anymore. Br as the manager should have realised this 6 weeks ago. The performances have been getting worse all this time.

04 Apr 2015 15:18:53
Fano, I'm not sure what point you're tying to make the "BR go home crowd". He's run his course mate. If we keep him, all he'll do is, at great cost to the owners, dismantle and rebuild a squad that he build and probably filter in and out of the CL places for another couple of seasons. That's not good enough.

No, I'm not expecting Klopp, or de Boer or Rafa to come in here an immediately win the league, but I'd have some confidence that they might do it in the next three, whilst I have none with Rodgers at this stage.

I don't think he's a bad manager in the same sense that Houllier was and Hodgson is, and he could become a very good manager at some stage in the future if he sat down and took a long look at himself and the people he brings in around him. But at the moment, he has glaring blindspots in his thought processes, routinely mismanages players, and keeps making tactical mistakes. And because of that I don't see us ever making a sustained improvement in terms of staying the CL places and challenging for the title on a season on season basis with Rodgers as manager or head coach.

The only reason to keep him is continuity, and the risk that someone else will be worse. That's not cutting for me any more, I'll take the risk, thanks.

04 Apr 2015 16:55:39
Something-Red, I wouldn't mourn over BR if we get DeBoer, though he didn't prove himelf outside the one team Dutch league and didn't do anything impressive in the CL, but Rafa? Seriously? He is contenders for the disspointment of the season in Seria A where Napoli who some thought could be title contender are 5th and in a considerably less competitive league than ours. Kloop will not come and he also does terrible job in Dortmund. I any case I am much more worried about the quality of our squad then the manager. If, for the sake of the argument, we can bring De Boer or say Benzema, the latter will bring much greater difference to our future. And witha new manager, as I said, whoever it is, next season is gone (learning curve and all that).At least with BR we know it is no-excuses season.

05 Apr 2015 03:25:23
Koop is a more successful manager than BR will ever be at the moment REGARDLESS of the one bad season in five years he is having. He has the trophies and pedigree to prove and I will welcome him with open arms along with De Boer for that matter.







 

 

 
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