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01 Feb 2015 13:02:29
Eds have you a link on a video in America 2014 where Brendan Rodgers categorically denies Balloteli will be at Lfc

{Ed001's Note - best I could find at short notice was this: http://www.thescore.com/epl/news/548813 I will keep searching though.}

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I read that in the Daily Fail. IMO, he did say that.

Maybe some of BR's BS can't be helped as decisions are made by people other than himself on transfers. Obviously he can help how his team plays, but no one at the club is qualified in making good purchases. BR has done well to turn things around. let's see how long this lasts.

{Ed002's Note - If Rodgers had wanted to reject Balotelli, as he did with Remy, there was nothing to stop him.}

Thanks Edoo1's, Have been on the link, however it is just an article in the paper and not the actual press conference to which I am looking for

I'd rather have taken Remy.

01 Feb 2015 15:18:16
Ed002, Maybe the board did not want another rejection so took over. It was a bargain at the time and probably still is.

{Ed002's Note - No, that is not how it works.}

01 Feb 2015 15:25:05
Bought him simply because he's a bigger name. Nobody can honestly tell me that he's a natural goalscorer. Replacing a chunk of Suarez goals was what we needed to address as soon as he was sold. The first signing,,, it should've used a massive amount of the money available to replace him with a world class goalscorer. Instead we just spent the lot on average/potentially good squad players and blew the entire season before a ball was barely kicked

How was Mario a bargain? He moved to Milan for £17.6M, has a decent half season, then a poor full one and we pay them £17.6M for him. Milan got a great deal, not us, and I doubt very much we'll be as lucky as they were when we sell him.

01 Feb 2015 16:07:50
So Ed00'2, Is it your understanding that after BR categorically denied Balotelli was to sign for LFC, he had a change of heart after the Remy deal fell through and decided to sign him

{Ed002's Note - No. I have warned you repeatedly to ignore everything he says - he suffers from foot and mouth.}

So Ed00'2, BR did sign him then as he has the final say and as you said yourself if he did not want him he would not sign him

{Ed002's Note - You seem very keen to try and put words in my mouth. I have explained the workings of the transfer process at Liverpool on many occasions.}

Why do the Italian teams, take us for mugs in the transfer market?
We have really bad history.

I don't care who signed Balotelli the club signed a player with the attitude of "who could care less" a big child with too much money, well he has been found out now and no club in their right mind would buy him unless he is very cheap! and meanwhile our club loses millions! the person(s) responsible should be sacked.

BR blocked the move for every striker that was offerred him including Bony (who was affordable) and Remy and if we ended up w/ Balo, it is because BR could also have blocked it BUT did not meaning, he wanted him here in some sort hence, BR is to blame. ED01 mentioned this piece of info last week therefore, people should stop making excuses and suppositions for BR for the Balo fiasco. Balo is here because BR chose NOT to block the deal as he did for the other strikers proposed hence, HIS FAULT.

01 Feb 2015 22:22:26
People keep bagning on about that Rodgers failed to go for that big signing first.

Let's not forget that we tried at the start of the window to buy Alexis Sanchez! He was the closest type of player available to replace Luis Suarez, but HE did not want to come. He wanted the move to London!

Now if there are people out there who can name many more players like him, who could have come close to replacing Suarez, that were available in the summer, please tell me, 'cos I can't think of many more.

I never wanted Balotelli, but as you see from my previous posts I'm not convinced Rodgers ever wanted him either.

And I'm not stating that the rest of the signings have been a success, but can all the BR haters at least consider both sides of the arguement first.

A lot of people were happy with the majority of the signings as they happened in the summer, these same people who, back then were probably on the BR bandwagon.

Now i'm sure there are some who have never been convinced and that's fair enough, but whilst he is our manager I'll continue to support him and the team.

He's young enough to learn from his mistakes. Man Utd and Arsenal dominated that 10-15 years before the foreign owners came to the premier league and i'm convinced it had something to do with them sticking by their managers for a long time.

I'm hoping we do the same.

Keep the Faith.

Smplfc, firstly likely none of us are getting paid quite handsomely to find players. Secondly, I think the likes of Jackson Martinez, Lacazette, Huntelaar, Mandzukic, Son, Okazaki, and Immobile might have been obtainable in the summer and others can probably name more.

Personally I might have gone for Martinez instead of Balotelli and Markovic, Huntelaar instead of Lambert, and maybe Lacazette instead of Origi. Don't buy Lovren, keep Agger, don't loan in Manquillo, keep Wisdom. Moreno's alright. Don't buy Lallana, give Suso and Teixeira a chance, buy a goal keeper instead.

Regardless of how you look at it, there were lots of options, it certainly wasn't Balotelli or nothing as some seem to think.

Smp contrary to what you may believe, I am not a BR hater and because I point out his mistakes (that many seem eager to make excuses for or flat out ignore so they are not labelled BR haters) which are costing us big time in the TW and adding to the debt, doesn`t make me one. I like BR because he is a damn good coach. However, his errors in the TW are costing us and that is a fact. Worse, he never learns, never changes and refuses to get help from a DOF which we all know we need. This is defo unsustainable. Even Chelsea and City don`t blow money like we are anymore because they have to balance their books which they have done hence, helsea is within FFP. To boot, even the owners don`t trust him w/ funds hence, the commitee of which he is a member. We will never know whether he really wanted Balo or not BUT we do know that he had the power to stop it because he stopped the Remy and Bony deals.So why didn`t he? Only BR can answer that and until he does, it will forever be his fault, IMO.

Agreed! .

02 Feb 2015 05:59:34
RDL, if you watch those players week in week out and say they are good enough then I'll take your word for it and assume your not someone who takes their ratings from FIFA 15 or youtube videos as a mark of a good striker.

I never stated that the signings were right signings and trust me there was no bigger lover of Agger than me and I was devastated when he left.

As for Suso, I rated him highly, but was BR the only Liverpool manager who didn't really give him chances?

Again, I'm not looking to cause an arguement, as we all ultimately, support the greatest team there is, but whappens if we sack him?

Who do we get in?

What happens if they don't get the second place that Rodgers got us to?

Keep the Faith!

Fair points, smplfc. I do watch a lot of Bundesliga, so am more familiar with those playing there (Son, Okazaki, etc.) then say Martinez who I typically only see highlights and the European games for. I don't know if any of them might have worked out or not, my real point was there were other options and we choose who we did for whatever reasons that seem unfathomable to me.

As for the part about the manager, I don't really care who it is specifically as my personal thought is to get a proper DoF and let them choose someone they can work with moving forward. It seems to me the club needs a senior, experienced figure of that sort to help move us forward.

02 Feb 2015 07:35:30
The only reason I raised the last points is because a lot of people seem quick to call for his head without thinking about the consequences.

I'm sure there are better managers out there, but I'm still confident that given time to learn from his mistakes, BR can be top class as well.

He must have something about him to have got Swansea up and to safety and then us to 2nd within 2 years.

I take on and agree with a lot of your points.

I by no means think he's the perfect manager, but there were a few times in Fergie's early career when he was on the brink but by sticking by him look what they achieved. Maybe I am being too optimistic, but in my opinion I just hope we give him time.

But at least we agree on the sooner Mario goes the better ey?

02 Feb 2015 08:25:42
{Ed002's Note - If Rodgers had wanted to reject Balotelli, as he did with Remy, there was nothing to stop him.}

Ed002 this is an earlier reply from yourself to one of my posts, what I am trying to establish is did BR sign Mario, this is to settle a difference of opinion within the family.

I actually don't think he did however if he has the final say I can only assume that he did sign him.

{Ed002's Note - I don't know if you understand the transfer process - what do you mean by "did Rodgers sign"?}

02 Feb 2015 17:29:12
Ed002's, Did BR agree to the signing of Mario or not, I know it was a consensus of opinion by the committee as you have said before

{Ed002's Note - If he did not block the transfer (as he did with Remy), the implication is that he agreed with it.}

02 Feb 2015 19:13:02
Thanks Ed002, That's all I wanted, got there in the end

Bingo! So will the fans trying to blame and drag everyone else (FSG and the commitee) into this Balo fiasco give it a rest? because it`s getting old, stale and tiring.







 

 

 
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