23 Feb 2015 19:20:45
Some people on here seem to think that Rogers SHOULD win us the title. Think on this for a minute, whenever the next big name becomes available in the transfer market and Arsenal, Chelsea, Man U and Citeh show an interest with us paying the wages that they do, what chance do you think they will sign for us. I would say no chance, but we still expect the title and blame all sorts when we don't
23 Feb 2015 19:59:22
It's obviously going to be difficult but on the other hand is it acceptable to just finish 5th every year (where we are by wage bill and revenue, last I checked)?
If BR can get us consistently fighting above our relative weight, then great. If not, keep trying until we find someone who can.
23 Feb 2015 20:20:20
If Dortmund, Ath Madrid, Lyon are/were all able to compete with bigger spenders (obviously Dortmund have fallen away this season) and in some cases beat them to the title then I would expect us to at least compete at the top end of the table given our finish last season and the money we spent.
I don't think anyone (outside of Rodgers when he made the crazy promise that he would win the title) would have said we were favourites to win it but we should never have dropped out of the top 4 for the length that we have done this season, I think at one point Man United were in the top 4 (sometime around Jan) and had the same points at that stage as last season under Moyes we should be better than that given the money we spent. We are playing catch up now when we shouldn't have. I think everyone can see that if we fail to finish in the top 4 Rodgers is gone, whether you think it is the right decision or not.
23 Feb 2015 20:30:47
We shouldn't have to go for the big names, usually a waste of money.
We and most teams in fact have had more success buying the up and coming players and moulding them in the clubs image and playing style.
Buying big names is no guarantee of a superstar. Falcao anyone?
23 Feb 2015 21:35:18
Brilliant reply Mike 85. Perfect
23 Feb 2015 21:46:58
RDL if we do that we' could end up like Spurs. Given the strength of challenge last year and the second half of this season, Rodgers deserves one more season. I think he will stay even if we finish 5th.
23 Feb 2015 21:24:38
Who was the last big name proven player we signed ??? Anybody want to help
23 Feb 2015 22:28:42
Or we could end up winning the title with a different manager (well, coach + DoF). There are no guarantees either way, but if we don't make CL this season that's 2 out of 3 where the minimally acceptable outcome didn't happen which, for me, is plenty of time. I really don't understand why the assumption is automatically that anything other than BR would be worse, that's only one of 3 potential outcomes.
23 Feb 2015 22:31:56
1 more season?! Why are talking as if Rodgers' future is in doubt? He's been brilliant for Liverpool! There isn't a manager in the world I'd rather have than Rodgers right now. Obviously there are world class managers like Klopp and Simeone out there, but what chance is there that they'd come to Liverpool? And why fix something that's not broke? Rodgers deserves to be here for many years to come. We will not improve and progress if we keep changing managers ever other season.
23 Feb 2015 23:38:03
Wasn't balotelli a big proven name before he came here he BR would mold into a brilliant striker, who wouldn't act like a fool could be turned round by steve peters and BR's man management.
I wouldn't include Falcao in that list of failed big money transfers he had a horrid injury that curtailed his good start at Monaco, he was MAGNIFICENT at Porto and Athletico. His injury hampered him dearly, to the point he only got match fit around January, cue that with having a manager hell bent on a ''philosophy'' who's own starting 11 choices have UTD fans screaming like this board was about BR from september.
23 Feb 2015 23:59:16
RDL - It's all hypothetical but my feeling is he deserves one more chance to get it right, even if we finish outside top 4. If you think we should change the manager than that's your opinion, I'm just saying I don't agree with you.
24 Feb 2015 00:47:43
Fair enough, Extra Bacon. It's all just opinions, there really is no right or wrong answer to something completely hypothetical.
24 Feb 2015 02:44:58
Adam Lallana 26 mill, Lovern 20 mill. Both struggling and any other manager apart from BR both would have been benched long back.
If some think they would come good next season, Y not BR?
24 Feb 2015 04:23:52
yes agreed we might not be able to attract big names, pay atrocious wages, but liverpool do pay over the bonkers for their targets . markovic lallana lovren combined costed us a good 60 million and they cannot justify their worth in the first season. given time they will come to the fore and prove themselves and that is how a team is built. nobody really blames rodgers for buying the players for the future, but then he doesn't handle them well does he? ( illori, suso, alberto, and many in the youth setup who just won't get a game.)
its his words that disgust the fan, he has back-tracked on so many occasions, speaks on matters that are not to be spoken of and then plays johnson/allen whenever he gets the chance.
we say we have had great second half to the season. what i fail to understand is why couldn't we do it in the first half? same set of players, same coaches. why did it take 15 games to get our season started? how did a defense become strong once again with 3 at the back? i don't call for rodgers head, but i do believe he has to improve his management game, his soft skills and his media consultation, be more responsible for payers he signed and have his clear say in the signings
25 Feb 2015 02:22:28
I agree w/ parts of your post, ak. If he refuses to get help and improve on his conduct then he should be shown the door. If he does, then we keep him. The owners will a full review of his tenure and not focus on just the last half of each season and that is what we should all be ready for. The poster who said he will be kept even if we come 5th is deluding himself, IMO. That would be abject failure after blowing 100m and coming 2nd last year and judging by the way Kenny was offed, he`d better be ready to be disappointed because I wouldn`t be if he was ideed sacked.