05 Apr 2015 17:26:23
Rodgers to stay.
Committee to go.
Clear out of players not in the managers plans.
Rodgers to be allowed to spend on 2/3 top players.
Give him a season in full control, and see how he gets on.
Red Rum
05 Apr 2015 17:42:52
Why would you give more control to a manager who has failed miserably while spending a s---load of money. And don't blame the committee for the players bought cause he had final approval
05 Apr 2015 17:48:21
I don't think u understand, Liverpool can't attract top players, last season 130m spent with CL football, this season it's very unlikely we will get CL again, but the thing you need to look at is we did have good enough players to get it if we had the right manager, Rodgers made huge mistakes at the start of the season which had us in relegation form, he changed the system which surprised teams, now again he has been found out, and it looks like he's going to be stubborn and stick with the back 3 even though it will be the end of our season, he's playing players out of position because he made serious mistakes with who he brought in in the summer so he's trying to figure out how to get markovic lallana coutinho sterling sturridge all in one team which doesn't work.
You say 2/3 top players it will most likely be Milner delph & ings while utd buy bale and co. I think top 4 could have been easily achievable this season with a different manager in charge, I think it'll be years now untill we're back init.
05 Apr 2015 18:09:17
Good enough is not enough - they have to be better than the players of either Arseanl or united (or city or Chelsea).
Lets say defensively all three teams are not amazing. United have the following attacking players: Rooney, Van Persie, Di Maria, Mata and Falleini (who without checking I can guess he scored more headers than all our team combined this year). Arseanl has Sanchez, Girou, Ramsey, Ozil, Casorela, Wellback (and Walcott and Wilshare when not injured - sorry of all the miss-spelling). We have Sterling, Coutinho, Lallana and Sturridge when he is not injured which is about one third of the league. Not comparable in my view.
I think Arseanl and Manu underperformed early season and between our two meetings with Manu we overperformed.
Yes Sir Alex or Mourinho maybe could have got more from our squad but I am not sure anyone else would. The one place I think we could have done more with our squad was the EL. We should have beaten Basiktash, we shouldn't have left home half of our sqaud for that game. In general I think BR was a bit too careful with resting players at times. I think if Sturridge was fit on Saturday why not starting him. But in the PL our squad was worth 5th place in my view (you could argue BR messed the signings - that is a different story).
{Ed002's Note - You seem to have conveniently forgotten large numbers of attacking players Liverpool have.}
05 Apr 2015 18:09:17
Good enough is not enough - they have to be better than the players of either Arseanl or united (or city or Chelsea).
Lets say defensively all three teams are not amazing. United have the following attacking players: Rooney, Van Persie, Di Maria, Mata and Falleini (who without checking I can guess he scored more headers than all our team combined this year). Arseanl has Sanchez, Girou, Ramsey, Ozil, Casorela, Wellback (and Walcott and Wilshare when not injured - sorry of all the miss-spelling). We have Sterling, Coutinho, Lallana and Sturridge when he is not injured which is about one third of the league. Not comparable in my view.
I think Arseanl and Manu underperformed early season and between our two meetings with Manu we overperformed.
Yes Sir Alex or Mourinho maybe could have got more from our squad but I am not sure anyone else would. The one place I think we could have done more with our squad was the EL. We should have beaten Basiktash, we shouldn't have left home half of our sqaud for that game. In general I think BR was a bit too careful with resting players at times. I think if Sturridge was fit on Saturday why not starting him. But in the PL our squad was worth 5th place in my view (you could argue BR messed the signings - that is a different story).
05 Apr 2015 18:24:49
You on the wind up red rum? Lol
05 Apr 2015 18:31:02
If you believe Rodgers has control of the transfers you are being very naive. We know for sure that several players were not his choice and I expect others fit in the same category. How many times has Rodgers said in the press that we need to bring in quality to strengthen the first team yet we end up with young players with potential.
The thing is there is a criteria which the players must fit to be considered, and even then the committee have to vote on the players to sign. I think it's a little unfair to put the blame on Rodgers when he has to put up with that. No other manager would work under those circumstances. It's a case of the club bringing in players and telling Rodgers to work miracles with them.
It's easy to say Rodgers messed up in the transfer market before the committee was assembled, but in actual fact Rodgers signed only 4 players (Borini, Allen, Coutinho and Sturridge) and 2 of those have turned out to be excellent signings. Borini will sell for same amount we paid for him and Allen would also bring in the majority we spent on him. So did Rodgers really do that badly on his own?
In my opinion, the club have brought in some excellent young players with great potential for the future and I suspect most will have their share of humble pie in a few years time when the likes of Can, Markovic, Moreno etc become very good players. However, it's clear to see that whilst preparing well for the long term future, the club aren't doing the manager or the team any favours by not bringing in the quality needed to challenge at present.
In my opinion, Rodgers should be given a little bit more freedom to strengthen as he would like. Fair enough, if it doesn't work then he has had his chance.
Red Rum
{Ed001's Note - what do you mean only signed 4 players? Are you being serious or is your maths that poor? Borini, Allen, Coutinho, Sturridge, Assaidi, Sahin, Yesil just in his first season. Last season, before the transfer committee was in place, Sakho, Mignolet, Aspas, Ilori, Alberto, Moses, Cissokho, Toure, again more than 4! If you can't see why control of transfers was taken off him, then you need help with more than just your abysmal maths. The man is inept in the transfer market.}
05 Apr 2015 18:58:45
No chance. I wouldn't give BR any more money, and certainly wouldn't trust BR to buy top quality players either.
05 Apr 2015 19:21:38
Assaidi and Yesil were already in place before BR came in were they not? And Sahin was a loan. Therefore, Borini, Allen, Sturridge and Coutinho is 4. The transfer committee was put in place before the following summer when the likes of Sakho, Ilori etc were signed.
Red Rum
06 Apr 2015 00:10:54
Red Rum, yo sound desperate which is killing your argument or quest for giving him the benefit of the doubt while the facts of the matter reveal the contrary. HE IS IN CHARGE OF TRANSFERS! That`s it, no if`s or buts about it. Yesil an Assaidi were signed under his watch and not under KK`s time here so your nfirst notion is false. He is a member of the committee hence, bears as much responsibility as the other members hence, if they the he should as well. He is severely useless in the TW which is why the commitee (a dumb idea) was set up. For me if any money should be given, it should be to another manager armed with a DOF who actually knows what he is doing and not to an inept coach who with a failed system who can`t adapt to the opposition`s tactics and who has blown a quarter BILLION with NOTHING so far to show for it BUT excuses, excuses, excuses.
{Ed001's Note - pointless arguing, he has no idea what he is talking about, the transfer committee did not sign any of the players brought in last summer. Any who thinks a loan, especially one that cost us over £7m, is not a transfer is just wasting everyone's time trying to pretend they know what they are talking about.}
06 Apr 2015 07:03:33
Red rum
Sahin was on loan correct but still cost 4 mil and wages and when Rodgers had him suprise suprise he didn't play him, or played him out of POSITION.
Just because he will get most of the money back for borini doesn't make him a good signing. he's spent most of his time on loan or on the bench.
{Ed001's Note - he ended up costing more like 5.5m with the early getout paid plus wages.}