22 Apr 2015 12:00:42
Hi Eds,
Given that Rodgers might be moving on after the season ends, do you know of any potential managers the board have looked at? Does this depend on the changes throughout the club and who/if FSG appoint a DOF? Also who would you like to see appointed? I've researched a few coaches (all quite high profile) and like every manager/coach there are positives and negatives to their tactical approach.
Cheers,
{Ed002's Note - I have explained over and over about the owners looking at the club top-to-bottom and I still don't understand the obsession the fans have with a "DoF". Personally I would move Rodgers on. Obviously Klopp is available but I think it would be very difficult to get him to consider Liverpool. Manchester City are looking for a stop gap for a year until they can target who the want - the manager they approached for tis does not want a one year deal so hey will look to Benitez for a year, although might consider Klopp as they probably know that their long term target wants a move elsewhere. So if Rodgers moves, how would you feel about Villas-Boas?}
22 Apr 2015 12:15:16
Villas-Boas???!!!! Please, mate, don't ever say that again, please. Rafa Benetiz is the perfect for us in every way. Rafa is the only 'winner' available, if he comes to us of course. Knows the market, is respected and known with a 'winning' CV. WINNING CV!!!!
22 Apr 2015 12:23:57
If Rodgers stays. It be the same next season as this one.
If you are happy with that, fine.
I am sure there are a number of very able managers, that are available and fit the bill. It may even be someone you haven't heard of, but please. No more young managers with thin CV"s.
22 Apr 2015 12:24:49
Thanks for your response Ed002. I don't have any obsession with having a DoF, even though I think it would be helpful having a board of relevant people to take the responsibilities of what a DoF would usually do. I'm just not so keen on the half-baked idea of the transfer committee which we currently have.
By no means am I urging for BR to get the sack but from what I can gather it's not totally out of the question. I'm not so keen on the idea of Villas-Boas given his failings at Chelsea and Spurs but to be fair to him, he never got a fair crack of the whip. I don't really remember being particular impressed by his football though. The manager that has impressed me most this season and last is Pochettino, given his tactics and bringing through youth. I know we won't be making a move for Mauricio but someone of this ilk would be my ideal appointment if Rodgers were to leave.
Cheers,
{Ed002's Note - So you want a board of people to do what a "DoF" normally does but you don't want the transfer committee. I am not so sure any of the fans have thought any of this out at all.}
22 Apr 2015 12:43:50
Don't understand why so many posters are so worried about the next manager and stick by Rodgers like he's the best we can possibly get (only Klopp could possibly do better, or maybe rafa)lol
The fact is Rodgers has failed and will be going and the owners will pick the best possible candidate for the next manager/head coach based on (hopefully) good advice.
If that man needs a DOF we will appoint one, if not then he will be manager.
If that man is Klopp, rafa, klinsman or even villas boas then fine I'm sure we will give him support, if not then it will be any number of manager/head coaches around the world who can currently do a better job than our failed manager.
De boer seems to be the best fit so far, I'm sure he could get a lot more out of our players than Brendan.
22 Apr 2015 13:07:48
Hi Ed002,
I'm not claiming to have a football industries mba of any sort but I would worry that if a single individual was hired as a DoF they may have conflicting views with the head coach. I'd rather focus on the tactics of a coach and the way a coach integrates players which my original question was regarding. The only reason that I brought up a DoF was due to the changes to the whole of the club which have been hinted by yourself and I assumed this would have an affect on if BR stayed and if he didn't who would be brought in.
Cheers,
{Ed002's Note - I rather doubt you understand what a DoF does. Plenty of successful clubs have a DoF across Europe.}
22 Apr 2015 13:33:15
Out of interest ED002 why would it be hard for liverpool to convince Klopp? ED001 has said before that Klopp had publicly stated an affinity for Liverpool.
I actually like AVB, I don't think he was given enough time to do anything properly and has already won trophies and managed in EPL. Are you suggesting he is one of the candidates the board would look to?
{Ed002's Note - He has options he knows of and Liverpool have shown no interest.}
22 Apr 2015 13:59:40
Hi Ed002,
As I have explained before I'm not claiming to know the ins and outs of how a football club is run. If you would like to give me a general overview of how a typical European club (preferably a EPL side who use a European model) run then I'd be more than happy to be enlightened as the only DoF examples that I can think of seem to cause frictions between the coach and the DoF. Maybe this is due to the best DoF keeping out of the spotlight.
Cheers,
{Ed002's Note - Directors of Football are not a "European" only approach - you do know that the UK is part of Europe. You want an example - Chelsea. It works just fine there. Bayern Munich don't appear to be struggling. Real Madrid have been success, Barcelona ....}
22 Apr 2015 14:01:33
Exactly, Mikey! Many on here think either ONLY Rafa or BR can coach this team and anyone else would not be good enuff. How do these people know that? They don`t and can`t tell you except by regurgitating the same BS as "Rafa brought us trophies" (year, EIGHT years ago)or "BR needs more time" (like 3 yrs and 215m spent is not enuff), blah, blah, blah. Their comments have no basis in fact. the facts are that RAF has had his chance and failed. Currently, he has failed at Napoli and will be let go in the summer. Same w/ BR. He has failed and will mostly likely be sacked as well. So in a nutshell, we are clamouring for two managers who have been found out to be failures currently instead of daring to dream and give a more proven manager than BR (if we can find one like Klopp or even De Boer who is still more experienced and successful than BR at least) a chance. NONSENSE! If people want to wallow in mediocrity then so be it. IMO, i support the owners looking for their man who will work within the structure they are trying to create and both managers are control freaks and proven failures in the transfer market so NO THANKS. As for AVB? The same w/ BR. A failure, a control freak and an inept manager. Nuff said!
22 Apr 2015 14:33:02
Ed002 there isn't really any need to be condescending. I asked a question and appreciate your answer but in no way was I disrespectful to you when asking to warrant a condescending answer.
I can see that the Chelsea model seems to be working well but I don't think you can compare the likes of Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, Barcelona to anyone else in the EPL apart from maybe Man U. I was looking towards a model such as Seville/Dortmund has apart from selling all your top players to domestic rivals.
Cheers,
{Ed002's Note - It is hardly condescending, many English people don't know that the UK is part of Europe. Sevilla has a DoF as have Dortmund and they work no differently than the other clubs - there is no committee doing the work.}
22 Apr 2015 15:27:51
Thanks Ed002, I'll assume your talking about the Nigel Farage lovers out there.
Back to the football. In the cases of Sevilla and Dortmund, who signs the players (not talking about money, transfer fees or wages)? Does the coach recommend positions that need strengthening/type of player he would like and then the DoF seeks advice from scouts before signing a player or am I wrong and it is done a completely different way?
Cheers,
{Ed002's Note - It is done in the same way as near all clubs with scouts providing an input on players they have identified and players the coaches have asked them to look at. Then there will be manager/coach/chief scout looking and then a decision will be taken to ask the board or whoever to see what can be done. A handful of clubs have coaches who have practically no input.}
22 Apr 2015 15:37:56
You cannot compare AVB to Rodgers. At Porto he had great success had them playing fantastic football, won the league, and also the cup and Europa League I seem to remember. At Chelsea he struggled but many managers who are top quality have struggled with the Chelsea job and moving to a new league it is difficult. First season at Tottenham I felt as if he did a good job, and then much like Rodgers they spent money on players who were no good, however I remember to people on this site wanting Soldado and Lamela at the time. As for him at Zenit I am unsure how he is doing.
22 Apr 2015 15:51:25
Thanks Ed002.
Cheers,