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05 May 2015 14:46:08
Why do people want us to sign Milner? We have Ibe, Sterling, Coutinho, Lallana, Henderson, Markovic and Can who can play in those advanced midfield positions. For me it is quite clear what we need and that's a deep lying playmaker/defensive midfielder. Someone who can dictate the flow of the game as Gerrard did last season, but also has the legs to do the defensive work. Someone like Schneiderlin.

I would like to see Can in that defensive midfield role, but does he have the passing quality needed to dictate games? I'm not too sure yet. Personally, I think he's at his best when he can drive at opposition defences in a more advanced role.

If it were up to me I'd play the diamond formation with Can and Henderson either side, Coutinho at the top of the diamond and someone like Schneiderlin holding.

Red Rum

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05 May 2015 16:03:21
Red-Rum , I agree with you completely . The last time we fielded a bona fide , time served Defensive Midfielder was on 15 August 2010 , when Mascherano played his last game in a 1-1 draw against Arsenal . This was the match where Joe Cole was sent off on debut and Reina scored an own goal in the last minute .

Happy days , we haven't selected a DM since then and it shows !

05 May 2015 16:18:34
I understand mate but which top dm can we afford. Khedirq we have interest but even he is better in a free role.I actually think Milner is agood player and I think we should just play with can and Henderson with both alternating on the holding midfield role while the other goes ahead.Sure if we had the money I'd love schneiderlein but I'd take milner.

P.s not a big believer in a team needing a stricy defensive midfielder

05 May 2015 16:23:02
In my opinion a deep lying playmaker and a defensive midfielder are 2 different roles and can't be compared. Alonso would be a deep lying playmaker and Mascherano would be a defensive midfielder. Both have completely different qualities.

05 May 2015 16:54:26
I agree Rover, but don't you think that last season, if Gerrard had the legs playing in the holding role, he could have helped reduce the amount of goals conceded as well as having a major influence dictating the midfield as he did?

The reason I suggested Schneiderlin is because he can do both.

Red Rum

05 May 2015 17:01:11
Have you not noticed Lucas playing for us since Mascherano left in disgrace.
He has been doing a much better job as well although not many on here will agree with his score on FIFA being higher than Lucas probably.

05 May 2015 17:22:38
Lol Mikey

05 May 2015 17:26:06
I really hope Lucas stays for next season. It would be great to have Lucas and Schneiderlin (or similar) for that holding spot. I don't think we can rely on Lucas to remain fit all season though, and Allen just ain't up to it in my eyes.

Red Rum

05 May 2015 15:14:04
I agree with this. I think a playmaking DM who will dictate the pace of the game and with good positioning in front of the back four is exactly what we need. A young Alonso basically :)

Can't really think of an achievable target without Champions League.

Ed002, your knowledge of players is far greater than mine and I loved checking out Morgan Sanson when you mentioned him even though Liverpool don't seem to be looking at him.

If you were in charge of transfers for liverpool, who do you think could be achievable and good fit for this kind of a role?

I've looked at Samper but he doesn't look ready for first team.

Kovacic positioning could be suspect in this unfamiliar DM role but I haven't seen a lot of him to judge.

Schniederlin is very good but very expensive and I'm not sure he controls the tempo of game.

I actually liked the look of Cabaye in this role for France at the world cup. Possibly and option? What do others think?

If Lucas could kick his injuries, I think he could do a very good job in this role. But it seems injuries are starting to get the better of him.

I also agree Can should be played alongside Henderson with someone else playing DM/Playmaker. Can is a box to box midfielder IMO and should be played there against chelsea.

{Ed002's Note - I am not going to get in to pretending to be in charge of transfers at Liverpool. I have told you where there is interest in players - not being in the Champions League and the lack of funds will impact what is done. Lucas was persuaded to stay in January so I don't see the club making him available this summer. Can is able to play in that role. There are other priorities.}

05 May 2015 17:33:59
For me Milner and Henderson as the 'wings' of the diamond would be fine both have stamina and energy to burn to close down full backs and then linking with both attack and centre mid. Coutinho as the creator behind the front two and Can as the holding player would be fine. Especially with our lack of major investment this summer

05 May 2015 17:45:39
We have to go out and sign a quality midfield anchor and for me Khedira fits the bill to replace Gerrard. His contract is ending too. Unfortunately we are going to struggle to attract this player without CL football on offer and especially if he knows he is signing for Brendan who?

Just think how damn good a midfield of Henderson, Khedira and Can would be? If we do sign Milner then it once again shows the utter disregard for LFC's money and youth players. Experience aside, Milner will not take us to the next level.

Lucas is a magic fella but unfortunately injuries have caught up with him so it is imperative that we sign a proper defensive midfielder this coming summer.

05 May 2015 17:53:04
I want Milner in to replace Allen. He is more versatile as he can play right back, holding midfield, box to box or on either wing.

If Lucas stays I see no reason to sign a holding player. Surely Can, Rossiter and Williams is plenty of cover?

When Hendo is out our midfield lacks power and energy. Milner can offer cover for that as well as multiple other roles and he's arguably good enough to start every week for us anyway. I don't mind if we don't sign any midfielders tbh. We have plenty of excellent youth prospects. Milner is just a relatively cheap option experience and quality.

05 May 2015 18:00:45
Well we conceded more last year than this. So the defensive part certainly didn't work but of course we did get away with it because we had willing runners up front in Suarez and Sturridge who Gerrard to pass to. This season we haven't had that and to compound that our defence although conceding less has been pretty dodgy for a fair chunk of the time. This is what i don't understand when people were having a go at Gerrard this season. He wasnt really meant to be a defensive midfielder but the playmaker. Alonso would have had the same defensive problems as Gerrard in our team. Essentially the team was left with just 4 defenders and the keeper the stem the attacks which didn't make any off the defenders look good or the keeper for that matter. Personally i would go back to playing both defensive and deep lying playmaker and try to find the willing forwards who will come short for the baĺl but also able to run in behind a defence. The new Torres if you will. Some people might say its a bit like having Rafa back but the difference is that we have more skilful players in Coutinho, Sterling, Ibe and Lallana than Rafa ever had (Benayoun excluded). My formation would possibly leave some of these players on the bench but its no bad thing to look at a bench that can change a game.

05 May 2015 18:04:32
Milner is an excellent squad player because if his versatility.

05 May 2015 18:17:43
I agree with EMS. I would certainly off load Allen if he is willing to leave and try to get Milner. He is just a tougher player all round than Allen and would give us more options if needed.

05 May 2015 18:19:48
How about forgetting versatility and buying specialist players for the positions available. We need a right back, so let's by a natural right back. We need a holding midfielder, so let's buy a specialist holding midfielder.

It's all this versatility that stops players from linking up well and getting used to each other. Every week, we have different players in different positions, it's no wonder they are struggling to gel.

Red Rum

05 May 2015 18:47:44
I can see sense in buying Milner if Allen was sold, but I don't see that happening under Rodgers, so to me it makes little sense to bring in Milner.

05 May 2015 22:26:45
Think you're all missing the point. Milner won't come to be a squad player. he can do that at man city and that's his issue from what I see. He wants to play centre mid so would need some strong indications this would happen for him to commit IMO







 

 

 
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