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05 May 2015 18:16:54
I just think fans forget where we are as a football club these days. It's not the 80's anymore, managers will not crawl over broken glass to be manager of LFC.
We are ranked 41 or 42 in Europe.
We struggle to get into the top 4 domestically.
We haven't won our domestic title for a quarter of a century.
We have the 5th biggest wage bill domestically, that is not going to change anytime soon.
We have generous owners but FFP restricts us from any more major spending.
We have no world class players.
Our fans display banners above the stadium wanting our manager sacked less than 12 months after our best title challenge in 25 years.

Why do people think Klopp, De Boer, Emery or Bielsa will be desperate to be our manager?

Does anyone remember the debacle last time we were looking? Managers were falling over themselves to rule themselves out of the running.

If Rodgers gets sacked I can see everyone expecting Klopp and it ending up as a straight fight between Rafa, Moyes and Fat Sam.

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05 May 2015 18:44:02
Nobody here thinks those managers are desperate to become LFC managers, it's more in hope that the fans here want a Klopp or a De Boer, and a major reason for that is that Brendan Rodgers has failed almost all his objectives, keeps talking when there is absolutely no need to, keeps blaming everyone else while embarrassingly patting his own "football genius" back, etc.

05 May 2015 18:45:11
If Rodgers were to go I don't see the replacement being a step up anyway so he might as well stay.

He wouldn't be half as bad if he kept his trap shut once in a while.

05 May 2015 18:46:20
Ron

We may be ranked 41 or 42 in the world by UEFA but if you look at some of the teams above us, you will see that it means shit.

We are still one of the biggest clubs in the world thankfully down to what we did achieve.

Also we are in a totally different state now than we where 3 years ago, our squad isn't actually that bad just need a better coach to move us on to the next level.

How we haven't got top 4 this season underlines Rodgers inability to coach the team. It's been there for the taking and he's let it slip.

Not saying managers will be crawling over broken glass but nevertheless I think we've a better chance of a top manager than we did 3 years ago.

{Ed002's Note - You are missing the point - Liverpool are ranked there by performance. And dropping.}

05 May 2015 19:02:34
I understand that ed due to our poor performances in Europe over the last 5 years , but my point being is olympiacos and braga are ranked higher than us but surely we are a more attractive club to manage over them.

{Ed002's Note - The rankings are not based on how "attractive" clubs are, they are based on success and performance, and right now the likes of Braga and Olympiakos are doing better than Liverpool.}

05 May 2015 20:12:38
There is an interesting article by Paul Tomkins on Liverpool's position and expectations. Everyone should have a read, including the eds.
I would copy and paste the link but unfortunately it contains a sweary word. But the link is on RAWK, so please have a look.

{Ed001's Note - no thank you, I don't have any interest in paid propaganda.}

05 May 2015 20:14:05
Ron: so what are you saying? stick with Rodgers? be happy we have him? and be greatfull we can manage to grasp 5/6th above Southampton! every stat you named in your post points to change of manager as this one is not up to a*constant* top 4 challenge! I don't know where you come up with the *BEST* title challenge in 25 years? you don't know what your talking about! last year Chelsea/ United and Arsenal where all really poor by normal standards. City had new manager champs league and some really poor results yet we still blew it! 2009 was our best crack fella! we was strong all over the park we had Europe to contend with along with a very strong Utd side and Chelsea too! Moyes Everton finishe 5th that year ( bit like your Rodgers today) and Rafa had us in the top 5 in Europe! Last but not least FSG have spent big and got burned ( Carroll) but are you telling me markovic any better than Downing? give king Kenny his due he played wingers on the wing ;-)

05 May 2015 20:15:11
So if that is correct rankings all you Rafa hater's since he left we have fallen 40 places from number 1 so was boring football ( as you people claim he gave us) better or worse ranked 41st or first

05 May 2015 20:22:57
Big Sam and Moses don't be silly can I have some of what your smoking

05 May 2015 20:28:46
SM, either of FDB or Klopp would be a HUGE step up from BR because they have actually won things and have eithercoached and/or as in De Boer, played a t big clubs so your point is ludicrous at best. We need a better manager to manage this squad BR built and wasted money on and yet can`t get them to play consistency over a season of playing well because he messes up for half a season b4 getting somewhat right. We need a full time manager and not one who dithers and blithers about for half the time. On that level, any coach is better than BR because elsewhere, he would have been fired for pissing away half a season and screwing up on the field and talking utter rubbish off it, in the media

05 May 2015 20:55:28
Scouse Jon;

Name a title challenge in the last 25 years when we had it in our own hands with 3 games to go. I can't remember it happening.
Therefore it would be the best title challenge in 25 years regardless if how poor others were.

05 May 2015 21:02:48
Anyone who can't win a trophy with Ajax in the Dutch League wants shooting, and Dortmund are the 2nd or 3rd biggest club in Germany and this season has been a huge fall from grace; more so than Liverpool.

{Ed001's Note - Dortmund were on the verge of going out of business when Klopp took over. He returned them to the top. They have a huge fanbase, but financially they are not in good shape, Bayer and Wolfsburg have far more money.}

05 May 2015 21:12:05
Redohio, if BR would have been fired for talking rubbish and wasting money by any other club, then why hasn't he been fired by LFC? Either you are wrong or there is something wrong with our owners (and advisors?) for not sacking him already. Perhaps this needs addressing also.
I don't think there is a surplus of suitable managers as the the original post suggests. I would love for Caragher one day to manage the club I know that's just a dream and he might not be cut out for it. What's the general consensus on his potential as a manager Eds or is it too early to say.

05 May 2015 21:59:15
To answer another point/accusation:

I am not happy with mediocrity, but I never saw Rodgers as a quick fix. I don't think there are any short cuts to success anymore, FFP has put the lid on that. I always looked at any new manager after Kenny as a long term appointment. I believe we over achieved last season undoubtedly due to our match winner having a rich vein of form. Even with Suarez I never expected a season as close to the title this year.
Rodgers is a young manager, he will continue to make mistakes and he will continue to improve. I think we should stick with him because last season proved he can get the team playing with flair and skill and can get results.

05 May 2015 22:13:02
Dortmund won back to back Bundesligas in 95 and 96, the CL and World Club Champions in 97, another Bundesliga in 02. They nearly went bankrupt in 04. Klopp took over in 08. He has done very well, but let's be clear, he has returned them to their former status. They average over 80k crowds, and are 11th in 2015 Deloitte Money Football League (the second placed German club behind Munich). They've always been a massive club. They don't have four richer domestic rivals, put it that way.

{Ed001's Note - sorry but they have big crowds but the money mainly comes from good management by selling for big money, not through being a rich club as Bayern, Wolfsburg and Leverkusen have more spending power. Wolfsburg have VW backing them, Bayer have, well Bayer, backing them. Bayern are just a behemoth.}

05 May 2015 19:20:43
Ed

I am we'll aware of how the rankings are made up, but when some one is using our uefa ranking as a reason why no top manager would want to manage us then I don't see how it is overly relevant.

05 May 2015 20:11:41
Think Ed 002 has missed the original point. it was about 'attracting' a top manager, not about qualifying for europe. If Braga and Olympiakos had to qualify against Man Utd, Man city, Chelsea, Arsenal etc etc, you would never hear of them. No manager worth his salt would manage them over us and we are among the greatest sides in the world. As usual, statistics are misleading. A top manager could make his name and a legacy with us if he was good enough. He wouldn't be able to do that at most of the sides 'rated' higher in uefa rankings.

{Ed002's Note - They are doing better than Liverpool - you are making yourself look stupid.}

05 May 2015 23:59:34
FFP. Boring, more excuses

06 May 2015 03:48:51
Higgins, BR should b fired for his failures on and off the pitch and not just for talking rubbish as I said in my post. The reason he was not fired before then was as the Ed02 said which was that they were not going to do anything drastic and were well aware of his failure and that instead of knee jerk reactions, they would do a whole revamp and appraisal of the club from top to bottom including a review of BR's position. Same was done with KK after he messed up the Suarez saga. They let him finish the season and let him go. Hence had they done what many of us thought they should have done, BR would be out of a job and you and I would have gotten over it. They did not and have been proven right because it gave us confirmation of what we already knew that is, BR is a failure and should be shown the door.







 

 

 
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