17 May 2015 15:12:37
Right think I might be one of the only people on this site that doesn't want to see Rodgers sacked in the summer.
We have let ourselves down this year but it is not only Rodgers that is to blame for this. The players have also been poor fair enough you can argue that they are playing to the tactics they are given but they do so last season too. The "Transfer Committee" haven't helped either. This site was buzzing last August when our business had been done and the same people thrash the same players they were happy to sign. We have a lot of young players in the team with another years experience of the physicality of the EPL. Yes I agree that the striker situation was a big mess up this year but I don't think Baloteli was a Rodgers signing at all. Prior to the signing he said he had no interest, Remy was close at that stage who would have been a better fit. I think that with a few good signing in the summer we can really kick on.
Yes we will have lost a living legend a void will need filling there and a we have a very very poor frontline but we have the time to fix the frontline this summer and get some quality additions. Personally I feel Ings would be a good signing and let's be fair he's not going to be signed as our number one striker but will fill a gap as we have to assume we will lose Borini, Baloteli, Aspas, Lambert. I would be happy to go into the season with Sturridge, Ings, Origi, and another top striker INSERT NAME HERE. I would send Sinclair out on loan to an EPL club if possible.
I don't think we need wholesale changes in midfield and would look to bring Illeramendi in along with Milner and I would sacrafice Joe Allan to make way.
In defence I can only see us improving in this area next year. Sakho, Lovren, Skerts, Toure should cover us in C.B although poor this season they IMO are 4 solid individuals. I do hope that we will look to maybe Wisdom get some game time at RB this year and let him and Flanagan fight it out with McLaughlin keeping a close eye. For LB Moreno will be better next year but feel back up or competition is a must.
I hope this season is just a bedding in time with the palyers we have. I do worry we are not singing off the same hymn sheet but feel that Rodgers deserves a chance to turn things around. My biggest worry in replacing the manager is that we start again.
Cheers guys. I do know 90% On this site don't agree and want someone like klopp but if klopp had as bad a season next year as he has had with Dortmund you would be screaming for him to be fired, you could also argue klopp has a much better squad this year with Dortmund that we have now. just a thought
17 May 2015 15:47:18
Klopp has already won one trophy with Dortmund and May will win another as they're in the final. His response to their underperformance was to ask to be let out if his contract. Still waiting for Rodgers to do the same but I expect I'll be waiting for awhile as am sure he has more blame to spread around first.
17 May 2015 16:00:41
Yes Klopp has done a lot I'm just saying that's the mentality on here at the best of times. If he had that same season as Liverpool manager the fans on here would be all over him.
17 May 2015 16:22:33
And rightly so, if any Manager had the season Rodgers had after having the amount of money he has had and 3 years in the bank they deserve the sack. Managers get sacked all the time, few get the chances Rodgers has had this season.
It just reads like a list of excuses for us to employ a man who will continue to make mistakes and will ensure we are have another year with a man taking us in the wrong direction. It is absolutely his fault for the way the players are playing, that is his job, get the players playing well. He is part of the transfer committee and gets final say as far as who is coming in from what I have read he has vetod more than one deal (Bony, Remy etc.)
I haven't even begun to mention the embarrassment he is in press conferences, the only reason he is still in the job is that last season he manager 2nd and failed to adequately replace a player (two arguably with Sturridge out) with over 100M in funds.
17 May 2015 16:15:36
It's not really comparable, though, is my point. If Klopp had been here for 7 years and won multiple titles and then had the year they've had so far, winning one trophy and being in the final for another as well as doing pretty well in the CL, then I really don't think so.
If it were his first season with us, again I don't think so as most would consider a Charity Shield plus a good chance at the FA Cup as perhaps not great, but acceptable. A big difference is that by and large while Dortmund's results haven't been great, their performances have actually been pretty decent. Us, not so much with many, many very poor performances.
Either way it is likely irrelevant as I don't see Klopp coming to Liverpool, unfortunately.
17 May 2015 16:16:38
So we settle for being average then???
What a joke
I want my team to be putting up a fight, show some heart!
Not wimper out of the season not fighting for every point available. 1-3 to palace ffs
That's twice we've list to them this season, it just isn't good enough. But if your happy with this rubbish then so be it
17 May 2015 16:37:55
It's a valid opinion JQLFC, my opinion is that he really has to got though. I don't trash the players we bought last summer, I actually like most of them, for me they were mismanaged, Balotelli was just a mistake, and an adequate striker wasn't found, but overall I think we can improve, the squad needs to be cut down (again I'm not going to trash players, the wage bill has to be reduced and the players that are the right fit need to be retained). The reason Rodgers has to go is that he failed to achieve at least top four, and has had us playing dreadfully for most of the season, instead of trying to recognise his mistakes and amend them he's blamed everything and anything but himself, we should have walked top four this year but didn't, that is down to Rodgers, almost solely in my opinion, and then there's the whole PR minefield that he his.
17 May 2015 16:39:08
He wouldn't get another season in any of the 4 teams above us and not even in Spurs in my view. Keeping him is saying we are happy with 5th and no trophies. Among all his other issues - he isn't being able to prepare the teams for big games and you cannot win trophies this way.
17 May 2015 16:44:29
I agree totally Phooey, there is nothing more disappointing than knowing a team like Palace haven't taken a scalp because we were just so god awful, allowed ourselves to be walked all over at times, it's just terrible.
17 May 2015 17:00:33
Funny that the five players you suggested we get rid of were all bought by rodgers and cost the club about 55 mil. Don't want to hear nonsense about balo wasn't his choice. He has the final say( as he did with bony and remy) otherwise you can take credit away for the likes of coutihno who was recommended to the club by Rafa - he's been arguably Rodgers best buy and it wasn't even him.
All the other reasons Why he shouldn't be here next year have been answered by countless others.
17 May 2015 17:04:14
Yeah I do agree with a lot of the points above a lot has gone wrong this season that needs fixing. I'm not suggesting that we settle for 5th if you read my post I have said that we need to kick on and sign a couple of quality players. I just feel that if we can get a player a spark up front we could really have a good go at top four next season as I said a lot of young players who will have undoubtedly learned from this season and will only come back stronger next season. Maybe Rodgers isn't the guy to take us forward but I'd give him the start of the season and see how we go. It's nothing to do with setteling for mediocrity it's showing faith in a manager who has been good (IMO)since he arrived until this season.
Klopp point a silly conparrison on my part not meant in the context it was taken up.
17 May 2015 17:25:18
I would have stick with rodgers even if we finished as 10th as he had definite plans and was very good with press and team last year.
However he looks absolutely clueless this season with his plans and media which is most worrying for me.
Last season he said about points we need to get and amount of goals we need to score and he got it absolutely correct. However this season he expected the midfield buys to get goals, that actually did not work,(sterling, lallana, coutinho). This season we only scored 51 goals, last season we had 101 goals.
No player got into double figures.
Liverpool need to get one striker who can play 30-35 games and get
25 goals/assists.
Rest I think midfield can make up. We cannot buy top class player as other top teams does, so it is important to sign best players possible rather than quantity. Rodgers went for average players and he does not play them to identify that they are poor(aspas,borini, alberto) etc.
Rodgers would not have been in this situation if he got remy / bony.
Another fact is that he is hindering the growth of good quality youth team players with his crap buy. If "sterling" is good, suso was equally good, he can strike and shoot better than sterling, So did shelvey.
I personally believe we should have given more chance to rossiter/yesil/sinclair as we had more games to play this season.
(There is also a highly talented list waiting kent,ojo,wilson)
What I am saying is that he shipped out good quality youngsters and brought so many crap players. Interesting part is that he is not playing them, instead he is leaving them on loan and buying players like manquillo on loan and not playing them. so many foolish things happening and he don't know what he is saying in media, pour qualeeteey.
17 May 2015 17:42:34
For me personally I dread to think we can't find a suitable replacement, I just don't think I can trust the team to win anymore with him in charge. :/
17 May 2015 17:43:27
We signed plenty of quality last summer and they either have been either out of position or not at all (Can, Marko)or ruined by Rodgers (Lovren and Moreno). Bodger vetoed Remy's signing, he would have been perfect for us. Clueless moron and must go.
17 May 2015 17:49:17
JQLFC96? Why give him another summer, especially if there is not a DOF at the club. That means another window for him to play hungry hungry hippos with attacking mids and central defenders and more mess for another manager to deal with WHEN (not if) he comes in.
What makes you think Rodgers will sign those quality players, the only real successes he had brought in are Can, Sakho, Sturridge and Coutinho. Everyone else is still up for debate, through no fault of their own in most cases due to being played out of position, in odd formations or not played at all.
17 May 2015 18:51:41
Remy injury record is nearly as bad as Sturridge, I don't believe he would of been a great signing.
17 May 2015 19:36:56
Comparing BR to Klopp is a useless comparison that is not worth discussing. BR has failed and would not be given another year at another top club after his failures over three years so why should we accept failure for fear of not being able to find a better replacement? That is just BS of the highest order. We thought we wouldn't find another manager after Shanks yet we found Paisley. We would not find another manager after Rafa yet we found BR who got us back to the CL. There are good managers out there and we need the right manager to manage this talented yet underachieving squad that has suffered severe mismanagement on the part of BR. If the owners keep him, then they should not bitch about losing money and no success because that is what they would have signed up for.
17 May 2015 20:32:16
I don't want Rodgers sacked unless someone who can guarantee the title comes in.
17 May 2015 22:54:11
No manager can guarantee the title!
18 May 2015 06:04:20
I agree Keith so do we "accept mediocrity" or just sack the manager every time we don't win the title?
What do people accept? 2nd? 3rd? 4th? The odd cup win?
When does mediocrity become success? When we take points off Palace?
Some of the arguments don't add up.
18 May 2015 13:00:01
The only arguement that matters is we won't win anything with Rodgers.
19 May 2015 02:49:04
We have won nothing with him and getting worse every week so what makes you think he will win the pPL when he couldn't even beat a Villa team almost destined for the drop in the FA cup semis. Your argument is pointless