18 May 2015 07:51:40
Some unrealistic views about us on here I think. "Get this manager, buy that player". It's not as simple as that. Who realistically can we attract that is a step up from Rodgers? The proven managers are out of our reach, leaving lots of promising up and coming managers to choose from. Which is a risk. Pull Rogers out now and we go straight into another rebuilding period, one which won't be funded as well as it has been in the past - it's just too soon.
The same goes for all these players that we fail to attract. We fail because we won't offer them the wages others can, nor the consistant european football.
We are not the club we were anymore. Sad, but true. We have been suprassed by other teams due to their success and, or sugar-daddy owners. We can demand all sorts of standards based on our illustrious past all we want, but we neither deserve it, nor should we expect it.
Putting all that aside though, I want BR to have another season at least. Last season was an anomaly and unrealistically increased expectations, and it was so because of Suarez. This season has been difficult for a number of reasons, but we are where we are despite having all sorts of problems, including pretty much no strikers for the season. I just want to see what Rodgers can do with a season unhindered by too many injuries and any real controversies, something he hasn't had since joining.
{Ed001's Note - so you want another season of 'transition' or rebuilding under Rodgers rather than just changing him because it will mean another season of rebuilding? Strange.}
18 May 2015 08:05:52
I didn't say another season of transition or rebuilding. I specifically pointed out I would like him to have a pretty stable one.
{Ed001's Note - why would this be a stable one when the 3 previous, despite no need for it to have happened in the last two, have been 'transitional' seasons according to Brendan? He has shown he has no idea how to build a stable platform over his last 3 years, so why do you think a 4th year is going to change that? I fail to understand this theory of hanging on to a lame duck just because the next duck might not be less lame.}
18 May 2015 08:21:11
Why would a new manager need a 'rebuilding period'? I really don't understand why people make this assumption.
Also not sure what you mean by 'proven manager'. BR really isn't anywhere near the level of those people seem to think are the only ones who can replace him.
18 May 2015 08:24:58
Rebuilding ed? I don't think we'll be rebuilding under Rodgers. More like selling a lot and strengthening certain areas only. That's all we need to do anyway.
We have a strong core of players here. Sturridge, Sterling, Coutinho, Lallana, Henderson, Lucas, Can, Moreno, and Sakho. We only need a few quality players to improve the starting XI. We also have Markovic, Ibe, Origi, Allen, Sinclair, Rossiter, Wisdom, Lovren, Skrtel, Ward and many youngsters to make up the numbers.
I think you're overreacting to be honest, but you're entitled to you're own feelings regarding the club.
Red Rum
{Ed001's Note - how am I reacting? The defence is a shambles, despite the multiple defenders bought, so needs a rebuild. We have a midfield that no longer protects the defence and provides little going forward, so we need to rebuild that. Oh and our attack is so poor under Rodgers that we have to play midfielders up front, so we need to buy new strikers too. That sounds like a rebuild to me. Better to rid ourselves of the problem, Rodgers, and save the money.}
18 May 2015 08:44:56
I fail to see how anyone could not do a better job than Rodgers. If the new guy plays people in their correct positions, settles on a system and formation, gives guys like Ojo, Rossiter etc game time then they're already doing better than Rodgers. Anyway I don't buy into this claim we can't attract managers or players. Klopp and De Boer are both interested in the role.
18 May 2015 08:47:47
All of what you say about us being way behind the other top teams, cannot offer CL football etc is true for summer 2015, it is less true of summer 2014. And arguably BR has a lot to do with this massive drop in attractiveness because of how poor we were this year and how poor his signings from last year were.
18 May 2015 09:39:20
Ed1 I went to the game on Saturday and our midfield with no Lucas in it was very poor, Palace basically just ran through it, there was np midfielder to read the game and cut the gaps out to stop the runners, every time he starts Henderson and Gerrard together this happens but he never learns, I must admit I was very impressed with Bolasie and Puncheon,do you rate them as players and why on earth does he not play Lucas?
{Ed001's Note - Rodgers doesn't play Lucas because he is clueless about the defensive side of the game, it really is that simple. He doesn't think we need a Lucas type player. He doesn't even seem to notice that our results are so much better with Lucas in the team.
Bolasie is extremely pacey and skilful, but even more erratic and inconsistent. At Palace, where he is the go to guy, he is brilliant, sometimes, awful others. That is ok when you are Palace, but we need players to be at least average on their off days, and brilliant on their best days. He is too inconsistent for a team aiming to win trophies on a regular basis, which is what we have to aim to do and buy players with that aim in mind. We have bought too many players that simply aren't at that level in the past.
Puncheon has got great quality, but again is too inconsistent, his attitude is not quite right either, there is not the fire in his belly needed to be a top class player, despite the wand of a left foot. He just does not do enough with his ability to warrant a move to us. He needs to do more, not in terms of work rate, but in terms of end product, there is very little end product from him. Like Bolasie he lacks that it factor that marks out the really top players from the merely very good ones.}
18 May 2015 09:52:59
I've been a fan of Rodgers, and have supported him throughout, especially during this difficult season. But I am now worried, and my worries are because of the following:
1. He has no idea who his best XI are.
2. I have no idea how we'll line up week on week.
3. I have no idea what our approach to games is.
4. We tactically seem to try different things every week. An example would be the overloading of midfield with Can becoming a central midfielder. Just too much trial and error at the moment.
I'm not going to regurgitate other things people have posted over the season, but I feel we're going into the summer without a clue of how we play, how we WANT to play, what players we actually need, and where we're going.
18 May 2015 10:06:05
If Rodgers knew what he was doing then he wouldn't have so many players playing out of position.
I just don't understand how on this years performances anyone would still want us to keep Rodgers.
We came second last season mainly down to 2 men and Rodgers wasn't 1 of them.
18 May 2015 10:06:28
Bolasie also cannot shoot and Puncheon is looking quite tidy in centre mid but he also doesn't have the pressure at Palace to perform to his best week in week out.
18 May 2015 11:30:10
I honestly can't see how anyone still thinks he's the man to take us forward after this season. People who use last season as an excuse to keep him, that was down to Suarez.
I've always had the following opinions on Rodgers;
1. He fails to get the best out of his players, mainly due half our lineup being out of position.
2. He has this theory that his 'death by football' tactic can actually work. He's tested it so many times and it's failed, yet still insists on using it.
3. Does he actually analyse the opposition? Plays Can at the back when it was obvious Fellaini would target him? Plays a back 3 which is awful against pace, against a side with tons of pace?
4. His interviews. I don't even want to word this. He's just an embarrassment every time he opens his mouth.
5. It's everyone's fault but his own. Poor Transfers? Blame the committee (Personally I don't think the signings are poor, just being put in a poor system).
6. His coaching staff. Do any of them actually do anything? Pascoe is mugging a living. Do we actually have a defensive coach?
7. Where the **** are our youth prospects chances? All season long, we've had a chance to give Sinclair a chance in the team? Why has it taken until the last 3 games of the season? He fits the role perfectly. Yet Sterling (Who I think it's unfair to criticise his ambition.) is a key player, build the team to his strengths. Don't play the lad upfront when his finishing is hopeless.
I have many more, but I can't be bothered to rant on. If you really want another year of 'transition' then 'Disagree' as much as you want.
Rant over.
18 May 2015 10:44:27
Hi Ed 001 , Is the Lame Duck flying out to Boston after the Stoke game? And if so , will there be a hunting party ready to put him & us out of our misery ?
Thanks
{Ed001's Note - there is no need for him to go to Boston.}
18 May 2015 11:34:53
Who can we realistically target who's better than Rodgers?
Fat Sam is available like ed002 says, even he would be doing a better job than Rodgers right now. Lol
So I don't buy this argument that there are no better options out there, there are likely to be hundreds, just because it might not be Klopp or another top name doesn't mean we can't find a better manager to take over.
18 May 2015 15:49:28
Some of these comments are too harsh on Rodgers i think. Believe me i am not his biggest fan right now.
1) he lacks direction and a solid plan
2) Is not good at picking right transfers, knowing when to play them or where to play them, plus is clearly inept at closing deals!!!
3) He buys players and doesn't play them at all!!! Which is perhaps my biggest gripe!
4) He doesn't seem to know his top team yet
5) What he says to media, especially always sounding so positive when i would prefer an honest approach more like van gaal
BUT, and i know my dear ED01 disagrees we did nearly win last year and you cannot of predicted a slip here or blame him too much for the occasion becoming too much to cope with, as it was new for the players and him to be in that race.
We have had injuries to a couple of important players, which wouldn't matter so much if we had got a couple of really good strikers to cover but instead as Ed01 says we are playing midfielders up front!
Also Ed01, i completely agree with you that perhaps his biggest fault (for me) is the fact he seems to only be interested or only understands attacking play, and i agree doesn't value or understand the importance of defensive players such as Lucus.
I don't believe that he is a foney though, or that his heart isn't in it. I believes he wants the best for the club but is not yet the best to know how to achieve this.
Anyway, if he moves on i only hope he is replaced by a really solid proven manager--Klopp would be great but unlikely i guess
Oh, and on a last note for all those saying Milner won't improve our team!!!!! Your all nuts!! He IMO is exactly what we need
18 May 2015 17:08:53
The people who are using stability as a reason to keep BR must be on drugs or asleep over the past three years. Have we improved over that span? NO! So why should he have a fouth year? Would the teams above us have given him a fourth year after the disaster he has been this year? NO! So why will thing be stable in a 4th year when they have been unstable overall for three years? THEY WON`T! BR has failed in so many ways, it`s disheartening and any manager that does as little as know what system to play, place square pegs in square holes, have a set plan and vision, play some youth and show class and dignity as well as leadership and taking responsibility for his failings in the media, is ALREADY an upgrade on BR before even managing our first friendly game. He is a failure and needs to go.
P/S: Milner is just looking for a last pay day and will not improve us anymore than if we played players in their right slots instead of placing round pegs in square holes like BR does.