27 May 2015 23:20:22
Anyone else find it staggering that we've given Toure another year, yet are putting a young defender with good potential in Ilori up for sale? Not to mention the money we paid for him.
Bizarre.
Cheers
{Ed030's Note - I agree, It's down to unneeded signings such as Toure as to why Liverpool are not bringing through these youth players and instead are wasting millions ever year on the wages of players such as Toure rather than developing talent such as Ilori. }
27 May 2015 23:57:59
I'd keep Toure and Ilori and sell Skrtel
28 May 2015 00:42:58
Totally concur Stured and Ed030! We as a club are not in a position such as say Chelsea whereby they brought Drogba back as a bit part player, with whom I can imagine was on grandiose wages.
Yes with Stevie gone our squad now lacks experience, but I simply can't comprehend why we would continue to pay high wages to a particular player that is purely and simply a squad player at best irrespective of "experience", and especially one that is average at best when he does occasionally come onto the field of play?
Don't get me wrong Toure comes across as a decent bloke, and every time there is a news conference or interview it is highlighted, and re-emphasised - what a good bloke he is, but why "employ" a player simply because he is a "good bloke"? . why not come out and tell it like it is . the bloke is a YES man, who fits the bill, the club unfortunately has a manager who is the ultimate YES man, we don't need players who follow the same "party" line . what we need are players who are First team level, and have the why for where to push and motivate themselves to put pressure on the entire squad to achieve a certain standard, not feel comfortable or happy merely to keep the bench warm!
{Ed001's Note - he showed, when not playing alongside Skrtel, that he can be an excellent player for us. The issue is not Toure, it is Skittles, time to get rid of him, he is on more than Toure as well.}
28 May 2015 02:15:45
You guys are overplaying illori like he will come good or something. Yes he may deserve a shot but if he doesn't work out which will most like be the case and we let go of one or even two established centre backs so we can bring in youth all the time I can assure you we won't be achieving anything anytime soon. We crave success but on modern football you need a balance, and more so for the experienced established players. They are the ones that know what it takes to win they are the leaders, if there was a Steven Gerard or Jamie carragher in the academy do you not think we would know about it. You know when someone is good enough, it's as simple as that and illori was never ever good enough for us.
28 May 2015 03:59:48
Toure should be first choice for a season. His experience and leadership is vital and a good run with Sakho could solidify our defence. Bring in a disciplined right back and a top GK and we would have a pretty strong defence.
Red Rum
28 May 2015 06:00:14
Stupid - sums up our approach to transfers and approach to our youth system. Toure offers nothing except average squad cover, I see no reason to keep him. Ilori has been mucked about since he joined and has never been given even a half chance - I feel sorry for the kid - also don't think this sort of thing helps endear our club to other young players either.
28 May 2015 08:05:25
Toure is a good player when not played right back,and played alongside a proper left sided centreback.
The best thing all round is to sell Skrtel and keep Ilori and toure.
{Ed001's Note - why is it the best thing to keep the overpaid useless centre half that makes all the others worse?? Skrtel is paid more and is terrible, he has no idea how to work as a partnership.}
28 May 2015 10:34:52
Agree totally ED001 I want Skrtel gone. I don't know if you were replying to me,or to some 1 else earlier in the thread there. :-/
28 May 2015 11:10:02
Ed001, bobatron is with you on that you just misread it.
I'm with the gang for keeping Toure and selling Skrtel definitely. I like Toure and the leadership he brings to the team. Once he is fit I think he is a good option and the younger players could learn a lot from him.
Skrtel splits all of the fans. I'm on the side who really wishes he would go, I don't rate him at all.
On Ilori, I haven't seen him so I don't know if he's the answer but it still seems odd if we sell him without giving him any chance. If he's any good at all then we should at least try him or else try loan him to a PL club for PL experience (and also so I can see him play a lot easier which is important of course!).
{Ed001's Note - sorry I misread it, apologies. I was still waking up at the time, and obviously still a bit bleary eyed to make such a stupid mistake.}
28 May 2015 19:37:53
If Ilori and many of the young players are being bought for good money YET are not given a chance, who`s fault is that? We will never know how good he and the other kids are until we have a manager willing and able to give them a chance. Those saying "if he doesn`t work out" and all. how will we know if he doesn`t pan out if we NEVER play him. Spent 7m on him YET haven`t even seen him on the bench. Which young player would wanna come here after that shambolic peice of management?