08 Jun 2015 19:28:36
Can people please give Ings a chance?
In his first season in the Prem, Suarez scored 11 premier league goals and claimed 6 assists in the league for a team that finished just outside the European places and won a cup. He went on a league goal drought of 7 games at one point and if I remember correctly was 23 at the time.
Ings in his first season scored 11 premier league goals and claimed 4 assists in the league for a team that got relegated. He also had a significant goal drought for 8 games. However he was a year younger than Suarez at 22.
My point is not that Danny Ings is going to be as good as Suarez and fire 23 goals in his second season (although that'd be nice). My point is that all the people saying "How is an 11 goal a season striker going to help" are taking his goal scoring record at face value. You're not considering any of the circumstances.
There is every chance he could flop, I'm not going to deny that. But this disgusting abuse before he's even kicked a ball for us makes me ashamed to be a Liverpool fan to be honest.
He is a hard working, proven goal scorer who wants to play for us. I'm not asking you to net on him winning the golden boot. I'm just asking that you give him a chance and show OUR player some support.
08 Jun 2015 19:37:58
EMS great post I couldn't agree more, but I remember the slating Sturridge got as well on here before signing, Ings will prove to be a great piece of business.
08 Jun 2015 19:44:59
Imgs is a good buy. The bottom line is he is young and inexperienced. he plays for a poor team that is relegated. he was supported by a poor midfield, in a team of not particularly good players that delivered him a low quality supply. He had poor training staff. He still managed to score 11 goals in one of the leagues in the world (whereas our 4 so-called strikers managed 8 between them
We have a better midfield and as such he will get a better supply of quality balls. He will be playing with better players and he will have better training staff and training facilities. At 22 he is still developing and on the ascendency. He will improve at Anfield. He is a very very astute acquisition and we will benefit from his presence.
The only downside is Brendan.
08 Jun 2015 19:54:13
Milner and Ings wouldn't have been my choice of signings but as long as they are our players will support them. End of the day milner hopefully can cover Gerrards contribution in goals and assist whilst adding more defensively and if Ings can add 10 goals then we are in a much better position.
Still think we need some one to take set pieces and need to get another 20+ goals from somewhere, but is an improvement
08 Jun 2015 19:47:40
Great Post!!
Also I know people say a good back up striker, we should be encouraging this kid to be a regular striker for us regardless what he cost. I have not seen up him up close but we will create chances and the boy looks clinical. To me a link up player will suit him and hopefully he is given a chance.
Maybe looks like a diamond style of high energy midfielders, the approach will be similar to Juve.
08 Jun 2015 19:50:16
I think he is a good little signing. Still young has potential and out of contract. If the team is playing with confidence and we get on a run he will be a good player to come off the bench.
So far so good. Milner free and Ings for a tribunal fee.
08 Jun 2015 20:16:36
Absolutely! Top post! Get behind them all. Welcome Milner, welcome Ings - do this great club proud and help BR also prove all his doubters and hypocritical fans wrong. Beat of luck to all at the great LFC for the 2015/16 season YNWA!
08 Jun 2015 20:19:21
Milner for a free transfer, the player man city (2nd best team) were desperate to keep, would not have been your choice ?
Who would have your been your choice then and guaranteed a better return for money, experience and football player ?
08 Jun 2015 20:24:54
In the end, we support our players because if they succeed, we all succeed. My fear is not the players as such. It is everything else. Sorry to burst the bubble but I can`t help but be very concerned about how big a mess our club is in atm. With the owners dithering as to either fire BR or weaken him by firing his staff and bringing people in he clearly will not want is a recipe for disaster. I will support my club and it`s players till the end because our squad is more than decent. it is all the other nonsense that worries me severely.
08 Jun 2015 20:25:36
I agree with the point about taking goals at face value, its ridiculous. Again its about time fans started getting behind signings however Suarez has talent that was clearly evident despite the lack of goals. Talent that Ings hasn't yet shown, albeit in a poor Burnley side. I did say that he would be an interesting one if he were to sign, as even during his goal drought, he was making things happen.
What I fear will happen however is that he just gets 10-15 minute cameo appearances here and there, with only a handful of starts thrown in. What I want to see is that he is the starting striker for at least 3 or 4 games back to back, should maybe be even more if he shows anything in those matches. If he doesn't get that then I fear another Borini/ Lambert/ almost any promising player we have bought instance.
08 Jun 2015 20:55:00
If the club sign 20% of the players that the fan ask for we could have won the league by now .Everybody knows who the good players are, and who can fit the system . All we ask for is one or two class players a season is that difficult for the 8th richest football club the world ,you build a team you don't have to buy them all at once and in three seasons we'll have good team that can challenge.
08 Jun 2015 20:58:06
Suarez has gone! He had / has talent but knew nothing about how to conduct himself in a professional, mature manner. I want this club to be as great again as it was and deserves but I also want it to be respected, as it was, for being a great team bigger in whole than the sum of its parts. Forget Suarez - I had before he even left - when he led people to disrespect our great club due to his hideous behaviour. Danny Ings, welcome to LFC, give it your all, respect this great club and learn more along the way and hopefully you will gain and grow with the respect of generally an excellent group of fans!
08 Jun 2015 21:01:47
I first read that as "my point is ings will be as good as Suarez" I was almost just about to skip ha but top post sums it up nicely!
08 Jun 2015 21:11:49
Fail to see how the owners are 'dithering' where Rodgers is concerned. He survived and we're moving on.
As for Ings, he should get the starting nod at this point. Sturridge is out for a while, and Origi has played no BPL football. If Balotelli's gone this summer, he's definitely getting the start (unless we add, obviously)
08 Jun 2015 22:23:40
Completely agree with your post, EMS. We should give the guy a chance.
However, careful with the stats - Luis scored 17 goals in 39 games in all comps in 2011/12, whereas Ings scored 11 goals in 37 games in all comps last season. Also Lukaku scored 20 in 48 last season in all comps.
The more important point is that Ings is s versatile striker, as shown by his even spread of goals with right, left and head, and is a young England player who already has U21 caps.
Lets support him and hope BR gives him a decent run in order to be able to prove himself.
I actually think, having a similar-styled (albeit not in same class - yet) striker to Suarez could really help Sturridge next season and/or Mario (if we still have him).
08 Jun 2015 22:46:39
So you don't see them firing the staff he trusts and employing a staff he doesn't want prolly hence, weakening him as dithering? Doesn't have mean they don't trust him. Why are they keeping a guy they fundamentally don't trust? Because you ignore the fact that it is raining won't make it stop raining. Asking to just support the owners and managers is just foolish because it fails to take into account the very concerns I mentioned. I will continue to voice my concerns about the shambles we are in because the review changed NOTHING in my view. Did the owners appoint the assistants? NO! I would understand the sackings if that was the case but it wasn't. All ithe review did was pass the buck over to assistants that BR brought in and are now paying for his own failures. People can call me negative all they want , it won't change the fact that my concerns are valid.
09 Jun 2015 05:05:38
Dont know about you guys but i see a certain Micheal Owen in Danny Ings. Now i think if BR switches to a system with two strikers with coutinho behind them i am sure Ings will score 15+ goals rather easily. but if he is alone upfront and we try that death by football trash thing he might be the next player we hang up the ladder. It was similar with Balo borini and lambert.
09 Jun 2015 10:59:07
EMS you summed up my thoughts exactly. I'm fed up with 'fans' slating players before they kick a ball just because they aren't world wide superstars. let's face facts at the present time we will not attract these superstars we all crave. In my opinion the world stars that would come are more than likely mercenaries. Instead we need to find those diamonds in the rough like Coutinho and Suarez. I am excited by Ings, he is young versatile and has proven he can score in the premier league. More importantly it appears he had other offers (as did Milner) and therefore both chose us, I would take players who actually want to play for us over players just coming for a pay day any day of the week