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22 Jun 2015 10:58:40
Eds do we really need milner? His high wages and all that when we have Hendo, Can, Lucas, Coutinhio, Lallana, Allen, (soon kocavic),
i think the only person in this midfield who milner should play over is allen let alone him being in contention to be captain.

{Ed001's Note - I said from the start that it is an unnecessary signing.}

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22 Jun 2015 11:35:02
Does it matter now? He's our player, let's hope he is useful and helps towards something of note.

22 Jun 2015 12:06:36
Good signing and yes we need a bit of grit and determination.

22 Jun 2015 12:42:43
You honestly couldn't write this stuff. In 2014 we threw the league when Henderson got banned because we had no like for like replacement and ended up with Allen/Lucas at the side of the diamond formation.

We now have genuine and quality depth and people are just moaning about players potentially not getting gane time!

I don't care how Rodgers keeps them happy. To be honest I don't care if they're happy or not. They're on enough money anyway. All I care about is our squad being as strong as it possibly can be and midfield options of Hendo, Milner, Lucas, Can, Kovacic and Allen sounds pretty good to me. That's enough quality to make two 3 man midfields of premier leagie quality. Genuine quality depth.

Coutinho, Lallana, Ibe, Ings, Sturridge, Markovic and Origi can have it out over the front 3 positions.

This moaning is getting pathetic though in my opinion.

Thos is shaping up to be a very good transfer window in my opinion. We might even have the squad capabilities to challenge on all 4 fronts next season. Top 4 and 3 decent cup runs would suit me just fine.

{Ed001's Note - we threw the league because we didn't adjust to suit the loss of Henderson, not because we needed to buy someone to sit on the bench in case he got banned! Lucas is certainly good enough in the position he is used to, the problem was he was misused so Gerrard could be misused playing in the position best suited for Lucas. We didn't need to add squad players, we still do not need to add squad players. I fail to see how you can miss that and instead rave, as you do every season, about all these players coming in, rather than wanting the ones we already have to be used correctly. We already have Can who can cover Hendo now, so we already had that cover in the squad, but we have added Milner as well, it makes no sense.}

22 Jun 2015 13:04:52
I think we needed him - the only true experienced box to box player we had once SG left was Hendo - Can has talent but inexperienced, Allen/Lucas not creative/dangerous enough going forward and Cout/Llalana attacking mids (although I think Llalana could cover). Milner adds another creative engine in midfield who can also defend and has experience when things get tough.

Think back to what happened last season when Hendo got red carded. that's why we need Hendo and why we can afford to sell Allen IMO.

Kovacic on the other hand is a luxury signing although I still hope we get him, just not at the expense of a top FB and striker which we need more.

{Ed001's Note - how do you figure out we need an experienced box to box player? It doesn't matter where the experience is, we have plenty of it in defence and midfield and up front already. The red card for Hendo is irrelevant, we had more than enough cover, it was badly used, there was only a need to use it properly not add to it.}

22 Jun 2015 13:13:25
Squad players should be just that, squad players. They should be made up of youngsters and players aiming to make the break through, not a 29 year old on a large wage who was probably informed he would be a starter when he signed on. I don't know about you, but I would be pretty cheesed off if I signed for a club who fought off interest from others only to sit on the bench. It can create a negative atmosphere for a start. Everybody knows where we need to strengthen and it certainly isn't midfield.

22 Jun 2015 13:15:26
The only way I can see Milner fitting in is if he plays from either wing, or filling in for injuries central. In my opinion he isn't better than Henderson as a box to box midfielder, he isn't a better defensive midfielder than Lucas, and he will not be a better option than Kovacic if we are still to get him. He might be at a better current ability than Can but we can't really judge because he has barely played centre midfield since being at the club. Although I do think he can offer something as a player for he high wages he is apparently on he could hinder the development of players like Can, Rossiter and if played on the wing Ibe and Markovic

22 Jun 2015 13:47:50
Ems
Yes there is whining but some fans are realistic. You are like every season stating everyone we sign are "top signings" then when they show they were bad buys you are nowhere to be seen.
And squad depth? Give me a break. Weren't you winging about the lack of opportunities for youngsters yet they are now further down the pecking order? you never make or talk any sense

22 Jun 2015 14:40:46
box to box midfielder?

In his club career, since 2002, Milner has cored grand total of 38 goals.

Last season we struggled particularly because midfield were not weighing in with enough goals.

Coming season we will have a midfield who last year scored:

Milner: 5
Henderson: 6
Lallana: 5
Allen: 1
Lucas: 0
Coutinho: 5
Sterling: 7
Can: 1

So in grand total for last season we scored 24 goals from midfield excluding Gerrard (9)

Likely line up I think would see Hendo, Lallana, Milner, Coutinho and Ibe?? playing if we go 3-4-3 again with arguably 2 maybe 3 of those playing out of favoured position.

I agree with Ed, I am not convinced we needed Milner at all, if he had a proven track record of doing what we miss (banging in loads of goals from midfield) then by all means great signing, however past from suggests he doesn't and is therefore another "creative" midfielder to add to the list who is capable of passing the ball around whilst not under pressure.

22 Jun 2015 15:31:18
Milner is a better player than Henderson

22 Jun 2015 15:35:33
To be fair, Milner is usually great on the wing. One signing i don't understand though is Kovacic. Shouldn't that role be just be handed to Can? And why do we need Cheryshev? We have Ibe.

22 Jun 2015 23:34:55
Only in your wildest dreams, Irish.

23 Jun 2015 05:46:29
Milner brings huge wages and takes a squad place that could have potentially gone to a young prospect. I think he will do fine but the point is the signing is completely unnecessary and doesn't really make much sense - our problem areas are well known yet we still aren't addressing them, it's a massive cause for concern and demonstrates that we, as a club, are still not learning lessons in the transfer market. Hugely concerning.







 

 

 
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