22 Jun 2015 13:13:15
Eds if you were a betting man, would you put money on us signing -
Kovacic
Clyne
Irralamendi
Just your opinion mate
{Ed001's Note - no.}
22 Jun 2015 13:37:37
Sly will have some headlines and then add more headlines and put a headline on how the odds for someone like Ilarremendi have been slashed to 5/4 from 8/1, sucker in some people and shorten the odds a bit more so they feel like it is really happening and they have a good chance but they may not have any real info on the deal.
22 Jun 2015 14:02:41
Oh you not a betting man ed
Or are you saying no to all of them
Or no to any of them?
{Ed001's Note - I am not a betting man but if I was I would not put money on any of those. Not the way we deal with other clubs. The only reason we got the Southampton trio in was because they forced the moves through.}
22 Jun 2015 14:15:46
Fair enough eds!
What do you think we need to do to get these moves through?
And also what is it exacely that were doing wrong when it comes to dealing with other clubs?
Thanks
{Ed001's Note - we need to make realistic offers. You wouldn't go into a Ferrari dealership and offer £20k for a Ferrari worth £350k, it would just get you thrown out on your ear. You know they might be willing to haggle and come down a bit, but you have to start somewhere they are not just going to be annoyed with you and refuse to discuss it with you.}
22 Jun 2015 14:30:49
Well Irralamendi is likely to go to Bilbao but I'm cautiously optimistic we might stop messin about and actually make acceptable bids for the other two. We got the Moreno deal done eventually despite managing to piss Sevilla off on the way. We're not making any friends but if we land the players I won't mind too much. However, I wouldn't put any of my hard-earned money on it since there's also every chance that we'll upset the wrong person and the plug be pulled.
22 Jun 2015 14:46:48
Fair enough ed!
Have they had success with this way of negotiating hence why they keep at it?
I think there heads in the right place, trying to get us better deals but it works better when your in a successful period because you have more chance of the player forcing it through and not giving the selling club many cards to hold and therefore having to maybe settle below what they want
Whoever is doing the valuations though need to rework it because I think the clubs puts there own ones on each player and won't go past that, but you look at 23 mil lallana, 25 mil Marko and were assing around with someone of Kovacics calibre. All I can think of is were trying to call their bluff because we know they need to sell with FFP, but were risking them just stopping negotiating with us.
I quite like how they are playing hardball with our players, will hopefully make other clubs think twice before coming in for them and If they do they know they will have to pay top dollar.
Very very very brave to reject 40 mil for Sterling when in a year he's worth about 5 mil!
{Ed001's Note - no success at all, we have paid over the odds to push deals through because they have put people's backs up.}
22 Jun 2015 15:32:09
redman,i don't get your thinking at all and you aren't the only one,the transfer of players between clubs are an essential part of football,without them football is finished,for some reason or another,lfc and a lot of the fans are showing a lot of hostility towards any club who dares enquire/make an offer for one of its players,it almost like the board + fans are taking it as a personal attack,yet are happy to see a player from another club force a move to liverpool as ed001 eluded to regarding the s,hampton players,there is a danger that other clubs may refuse to deal with lfc in the future on a point of principle because of bad blood,raheem stirling is getting a lot of stick lately but a lot of fans would be rubbing their hands with glee if a player from another club was to do the same because he wanted to go to lfc. just food for thought
22 Jun 2015 16:26:53
E.g i guess is kovacic. They want 18m so really you should say 15m not 9m. Same with clyne if saints say they want 15m offer 12m not 9m again. We would soon moan if someone offered us half what the player realistically is valued at.
22 Jun 2015 19:26:16
It's not so much the price of kovacevic which is the sticking point, more the how. How's is structured and how we have conducted ourselves.
22 Jun 2015 21:23:39
We are good at low-balling other clubs YET we are even better at overpaying for players. Stunning!
23 Jun 2015 07:31:02
Dorset Red. Like Cities opening bid for Sterling?
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