26 Jun 2015 17:52:20
A word on the quiet one
I slated Rodgers and the end of the last season and wanted him gone, as did most. Tough luck, he's staying.
We seem to be having a good transfer window and our squad should be prepared for the next season to target a too four finish
Therefore as our motto says, we must all get behind Rodgers and the team and hopefully we just click from the off, Rodgers has made a lot of mistakes but in managerial terms he's still a youngster.
Give him until the end of the season, if we aren't in the top four we have to sack him but please don't start the Brendan bashing in September because it isn't good for anything
26 Jun 2015 18:17:53
How do you know he's staying? Who told you? Why should we get behind a complete loser? I'll support the team and the players but it's moronic to suggest we have to support that nose
26 Jun 2015 18:21:53
Fact is BR should not have been appointed in the first place - we are Liverpool FC and we appoint an inexperienced PL man, without a CV to talk about - who then proves himself to be the least effective ( left out the word worst ) manager we have had since Phil Taylor. How on earth he is still employed baffles me completely, his backroom staff are let go, the capitulation against Stoke City was more than embarrassing, and his constant press conferences insisting we were outstanding, after losing, err a joke.
{Ed002's Note - You are right the club would never appoint a manager who had only had experience at say Carlisle, Grimsby, Workington and Huddersfield.
Yet the Liverpool fans crave the likes of Bielsa - who doesn't even speak English.}
26 Jun 2015 18:32:35
I'm genuinely starting to think he's already gone and, once the window opens officially and our player deals go through , the real picture will emerge.
26 Jun 2015 18:35:20
Neither did Mauricio Pochettino Ed, to be fair.
{Ed002's Note - Wrong. He spoke English but didn't do interviews in English because it wasn't that good. It has since improved. Bielsa doesn't speak English and won't be learning it.}
26 Jun 2015 18:55:34
I despair at some of the comments by so-called "supporters" on here.
How can you support players, some of whom outright disrespect the club and supporters and put in half a shift for tens of thousands a week, yet insult and undermine the manager?
Yes, he had a bad season, he made a lot of mistakes. it happens even to the best managers like. Klopp. If you can't give him a second chance then that's up to you, but stop the constant undermining, it doesn't help anyone associated with LFC.
26 Jun 2015 19:08:06
I think it's a matter of craving a tactically astute manager with a plan rather than craving for somebody specific.
26 Jun 2015 19:11:24
I thought Rodgers nearly won the title. Who was in charge that season?
He has many faults but spewing bile at the man who, whether you like it or not, will be OUR manager makes no sense to me.
As has been pointed out if we're not careful it'll be the biggest self-fulfilling prophecy ever as vast swathes of the clubs "support" prepare to dance on his grave every week.
Imagine in your home, work or school environment people denied you any credit for literally anything that you'd done well and instead constantly pointed out all of your faults and pinned a load of shite on you that isn't your fault. Oh and they laughed at your appearance and the way you speak too - as if you weren't feeling bad enough already. And these are people supposedly behind you by the way. How would you feel?
Of course half the dimwits who come on here trolling him would probably run up to him and ask him for a "wee" pic or autograph if they actually saw him in real life before revealing themselves to be the real "nose" by assuring him to his face that they're the clubs biggest fan.
This is just destructive, not constructive criticism.
26 Jun 2015 19:20:58
Agree 100% with the origional poster. Let's get behind the manager hailed the best in the league 12 months ago, and hope that the issues he encountered last season are well and truely behind him. He has had a lot of problems off the pitch too and I don't know maybe he let that creep into his work.
If he does go I'll be very surprised but so be it, I'll support the next manager who comes after him like I did the one before him.
@Ron don't mention Klopps bad season you will be considered a guy who knows nothing about football by the Rodgers bashers like I was. imagine Klopp came in and had a bad season they would be saying he's worse than Rodgers. 12 months Rodgers was the messiah!!!
26 Jun 2015 19:44:13
That's the point though isn't it? He never accepts responsibility for anything even to the extent of selling his friend Pascoe down the river. The fact that he wants Benteke tells you all you need to know about how little idea he has about football
26 Jun 2015 19:51:27
Essexred, grow the f*** up, name calling like a little schoolgirl, and it's not the first time either. It demeans any relevant, constructive criticism that you might occasionally post.
As for the Biesla love in, hardly anyone on here had even considered him until ED001 piped up about him, the same with wanting a DOF.
26 Jun 2015 19:56:26
I am just guessing but I think the biggest concerns with Rodgers are that he has ignored advice and went back to his way of doing things which, as we have seen, has lead to a terrible season. I remember Ed001 saying that he changed his approach somewhat after attending a course run by Bielsa (or at very least inundated with Bielsa's philosophy, forgive me I forget) which culminated in our improved play that lead to 2nd. He abandoned those principles for his own which failed, time and again, and as a result we endured last season. His ego is massive and I think that is why so many do not like him - if he proves us all wrong bully for him but he is miles away from the manager he thinks he is - if he started to act as such is would be a good start.
26 Jun 2015 19:49:31
It is not constructive to keep criticising him as the owners seem to think he is still the right man for the job. I still don't respect him and that is my perogative but there's no need to insult him.
Am i right in saying though that you Ed02 said it would end in tears, what made you come to that conclusion when he was appointed?
{Ed002's Note - My view of him was that he was technically naïve and that would not change. He is also easily led.}
26 Jun 2015 20:02:48
Better than defending someone almost without question who has almost single handedly made Liverpool a laughing stock. Anyone who defends him had serious issues
26 Jun 2015 20:04:19
See what I mean? Why can't we all just be happy and give the guy another season? Some Liverpool fans don't deserve to say you'll never walk alone
26 Jun 2015 20:21:13
Thanks ed02, so with the right support from a competent assistant manager and better coaches for the first team he may be able to turn it around if he listens to advice.
i hope he turns it around for the sake of the club and my sanity. I will hold off with the effigy for now.
That was a joke btw, i will stick to daubing abuse on the stadium. still joking.☺
26 Jun 2015 20:22:01
Why should we be happy and give him another season?
26 Jun 2015 20:23:32
Essex should stick to watching TOWIE locally if can't get behind the club in its entirety and have a go at the many more hopeless individuals on that instead!
26 Jun 2015 20:26:30
Lerchy happiness is subjective, can you say you were happy when we were completely embarassed by stoke? No. but i agree name calling is not necessary. But you need to hold off on the superfan stuff, people are allowed to have differing opinions, as long as its not abusive and it is constructive i am willing to listen to peoples concerns.
26 jun 2015 20:26:43
i'm not sure that brendan abandoned any principles last season - we were hampered by poor transfers that didn't fill the gap that suarez left and that sturridge couldn't plug it due to being made of glass. i think brendan deserves this chance that the owners are giving him, especially as the transfer policy is their doing, but it is clearly last chance saloon. i hope he comes good - this isn't blindly following, just support for our manager. ynwa.
26 Jun 2015 20:39:06
Essex. No one was laughing when we finished 2nd. If anything too many people (not just LFC fans) were going overboard and talking about a Rodgers dynasty. I was in the camp that thought 4th last season would be a major achievement and its the doom-mongerers now that told me I was pessimistic last season and that we should be aiming for the stars. No one with half a brain would have said we'd challenge for the league last season ( and if BR did promise that to the owners he's missing a load of grey matter). If we continue to recruit well the club will give itself a real shot at CL. If Rodgers doesn't get 4th he'll be gone and he won't be able to say he wasn't given a fair crack of the whip. But if the fan base makes life so difficult for him to his job he will have a ready made excuse. Let's therefore not give him that opportunity and hope that our support helps to get us where we all want to be.
26 Jun 2015 20:42:40
He totally changed our style of play fishy regardless of personnel. Teams with less talented players than our own seemed to be able to play like a team. At times last season it looked like 11 strangers on the pitch. Too much chopping and changing of formation and personnel meant we never established a settled team until he stumbled on the formation basel used effectively against us and we went on a mini run. Even then we did not look convincing.
I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt seeing as the owners have given us no choice but to.
26 Jun 2015 20:49:33
So we should keep him because people weren't laughing at us even though they are now?
When we finished second we did so in spite of our worst defensive season ever. Ever ever. We had keeping and defensive issues, organisational and tactical issues that is, that didn't get fixed.
26 Jun 2015 21:18:27
User013. So if anyone laughs at us we should immediately sack our manager?
And you'd rather dwell on conceding 50 goals 2 years ago rather than the fact we scored 100? Sums it up, glass half empty merchant.
That was one of the most thrilling seasons in my near 4 decades of being an active supporter. It was actually funny watching us having to score 4 goals to win a game.
Last season was horrible, the polar opposite. But it will never be that bad again in terms of performances. Of that I am convinced. How we got so many points while playing well in just half a dozen games actually makes me confident that we can get mid 70 points plus quite easily this season.
26 Jun 2015 21:54:59
Easily led one minute and then stubborn in his ways the next. Lol
26 Jun 2015 23:15:15
BR's a failure and his blunders are well documented and no amount is excuses for his glaring incompetence will change that. The fact that the owners kept him means nothing because they have taken critical responsibilities and decisions away from him as well as appointing his own assistants for him simply means he is nothing but a lame duck manager in a weakened position. Whether this tactic will work is another story BUT the owners know that he is not good enuff and if they know there's no one out there that they feel can work within their structure, they have decided to simply babysit him instead which to me, is just cowardly. Now as for supporting the manager or the club or not, we will always support our club and root for our players to succeed even if we disagree with our manager's policies. Many fans of clubs do that. I supported our club through the last bit of the Rafa, Roy and KK days even tho I wanted them all gone so to say that supporters must support the manager no matter what, is just ludicrous and has no basis in logic, IMO.
26 Jun 2015 23:37:56
Ohio, if your scenario at the beginning of your post were true, Rodgers is in a no win position. That being said, he could sue the club for constructive dismissal and seeing as he has a long contract, it would be costly.
They would be better off sacking him than following your suggested scenario.
27 Jun 2015 01:28:09
Look at this way, if the owners were going to get rid it would have happened by now, there's no good reason to keep it secret. All these whispers that he may have been sacked already or that he'll be replaced by August are pipe dreams by some pretty desperate fans.
Live with it or don't but please stop being so boring.
27 Jun 2015 02:13:13
Im not bothered about failure unless it is consistent and there are reason to give him another season.
But rodgers is not one of those cases.
He has literally done everything wrong he can. The money wasted, the alienation of players, the pointless spewing out of b*ll*cks in press conferences, and worst of all, pissing our season down the drain by sticking with failed tactics to inflate his own ego - essentially putting himself before the club. He has to go.
27 Jun 2015 06:05:16
Boom! No. I was responding to the point that was made: that nobody was laughing at us 2 years ago and this was some kind of reason to not care about people laughing at us now. With that kind of approach we will always be the "during the eighties we were good" kind of club and I don't want that.
Also it's not a matter of glass half empty. If a part of our play needs strengthening then the job of the manager is to do that and improve us (while keeping doing the things that went well).
Perhaps my attitude is "we did great in the year we came second but there were some issue, that we can fix and give ourselves the best chance of kicking on to the title next year". Yours is "second is pretty good, let's have more of the the same please".
I'm sure you know that doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results is the actual definition of insanity.