26 Jun 2015 22:21:52
I've seen praise on here the last 36 hours for Ian Ayre because he negotiated the firminho deal, £28mill for a Hoffenheim player! He may turn out to be a world beater and I hope he is, but we have grossly overpaid for him IMO, yet Ayre gets praise for it, the same man who has been slagged off for months by the same posters. The expression " MORE FACES THAN THE TOWN HALL CLOCK ", comes to mind.
{Ed002's Note - Couldn't agree more. And I rather suspect you will be shocked when you know the final transfer cost once the bonuses are included Waro.}
26 Jun 2015 22:43:09
Would you be willing to say how much ed?
{Ed002's Note - Not worth the grief right now.}
26 Jun 2015 22:55:31
Rumours that are circling it could exceed the 35 we paid for Carroll are mind blowing to be honest
{Ed002's Note - It depends on the exchange rate, but it is that sort of figure.}
26 Jun 2015 22:55:52
If we had went In with a silly low bid everyone would of been kicking off, eitherway you can't win.
26 Jun 2015 22:59:22
Thought we didn't discuss ££ Ed as it winds/confuses the Liverpool supporters up.
26 Jun 2015 23:00:50
It still won't come close to the ridiculous fee we're going to get for Sterling
{Ed002's Note - You think that will be the case after deducting the payments to the player and QPR, and adding the many additional costs for Firmino Chris - you might want to do your sums.}
26 Jun 2015 23:06:53
While I agree, if sterling goes for 50 million it's not that bad of a deal is it?
26 Jun 2015 23:10:52
Ed if you don't want to answer I completely understand, but were the club aware that they offered so much more for Firmino than other clubs. I think he's a good player, but we seem to want to keep collecting players who are best as a number 10 and to hear now that we probably overpaid is very worrying especially as ed001 says no one knows who is actually making decisions.
{Ed002's Note - I really don't know.}
26 Jun 2015 23:31:19
Hard to judge any fee in this market.
50 million for Sterling seems like a ridiculous price too. Given the choice, I'd prefer Firmino to Sterling in my team.
59 million for Di Maria, 85 million for Bale. All ridiculous sums of money. The football world is completely bloody money crazy.
26 Jun 2015 23:33:53
Can't do right for doing wrong
27 Jun 2015 00:19:30
Exactly OG,Waro pipes up with a statement (he's what I call a loader) then ED2 stokes its up with a comment.
{Ed002's Note - Like you commented about how confused you get?}
27 Jun 2015 00:35:26
Agreed waro. I think it's the uneducated Liverpool fans that thought this was some sort of coup. Do you guys actually think, if arsenal Chelsea or UTD negotiated this deal it would be worth £29mill+? He was worth around the £20-£25mill mark but this was way excess of that, and we are penny pinching when it comes to kovacic, who is a better player IMO. Ian ayre is good at marketing not negotiating transfers.
27 Jun 2015 00:43:52
The market is simply what one club will pay. City need English players hence they will overpay for Sterling. The problem is when we are the team that is overpaying compared to other teams' valuations. Even if Firmino is great it is still the opportunity cost to use that money elsewhere when we clearly have other needs. This is how we continue to waste money in the market.
27 Jun 2015 01:12:54
If the club splash the money people moan if they don't people still moan with no CL it's hard to get good players.what would people prefer one firmino or two markovic ,we need to be winning games before we can pick and chose for a good price.But for now paying top £ is the only way.
27 Jun 2015 01:26:48
If we want to see the footie we saw the. Season before last, then I think Firmino is exactly the type of player we need. Waro: cut and paste this mate 😊 it may well come back to haunt me.
I think he was worth every penny
27 Jun 2015 06:31:54
Kman92. One day we low ball the next we over pay. Which is it? The two teams you mentioned have overpaid repeatedly so not sure you make any sense at all. Di Maria for that price? Falcao's loan deal? A busted Torres for 50m? Shevchenko? In the end if Firmino gets 10-15 goals and helps us into top 4 he's cheap. If we don't make top 4 our signings will look like Lamela, Paulinho, Soldado. Failures because they didn't take their club to the level required. That's football. Very fine line between looking like a genius or a complete loser. Bit like our last 2 seasons, eh?
27 Jun 2015 10:26:51
Kovacic better than Firmino?
Can't agree with that I'm afraid. From my limited exposure to them, Firmino look top class whereas Kovacic look good.
Firmino has that X factor which very few players have. He has a bit of "invention" in his game. He does unconventional things, he's unpredictable. In summary a nightmare for defenders. He's exactly what we missed when Suarez was sold IMO.