29 Jul 2015 01:22:06
havint posted in a while although I read every day, Have to say 9/10 times the eds are spot on so well played lads! My only gripe is we keep signing endless amount of potential but not ready made stars that can show our academy how to become great players by leading/showing how to step it up! Personally my opinion is sign 1 or 2 players that really will boost our first team now and bring their knowledge to the academy instead of stunting our growth as a team! We should be run as a club with a end goal and work towards it! This cannot be another season of transition but my gut says it will be! We have an overinflated first team filled with potential and our academy is bursting with players ready to step up with nowhere to go! Someone within the club must see this? The money we waste is unreal! Sorry for the negative post but I don't feel any lessons have been learnt from last season and I backed/back Brendan to the hilt but we have to have a vision as a club for right now and in the future! YNWA
{Ed002's Note - The academy and the first team are separate entities.}
29 Jul 2015 01:39:24
I understand that ed002 but they should have an end goal they are part of the same club. I'm not saying everyone from the academy will make it but I would rather give 1 or 2 a chance every season rather than buying cover for places the academy could cover or even get first team, when I look at our first team now I struggle to see where the experience is in goalkeeper/midfield/striker I left out defence because of toure! How can our youngsters learn off players that havint hit their peek yet?
Seandaleer
{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have a great tradition for bring youth through but I am afraid that has gone - regardless of the efforts of the owners to build that part of the club. Right now the panic buying we have seen for the past couple of summers is continuing - and much of that is due to bringing in the likes of Ilori, Alberto and Aspas two years ago - those places and the few games that went with them could have gone to youngsters coming through. It still needs a bunch of work and a better structure involving loans and cutting the cord when not working.}
29 Jul 2015 02:22:04
When have we ever bought a ready made player? Besides, that's what milner is
{Ed002's Note - There are countless examples.}
29 Jul 2015 02:28:50
I disagree, I think you're right that last season we went for too many 'young with potential' but this season we've signed Milner, Clyne, Firmino and Benteke, all of which strengthen obvious weaknesses in the first team squad.
Adding the odd player with potential as well is a bonus like Joe Gomez so let's not forget it's still important to buy talent young to profit if it goes well (eg. Sterling) or else the club digs itself into a financial hole. The reality is though only one in a few will progress to make it but that doesn't make it a failed strategy.
29 Jul 2015 03:56:08
I'm not sure what obvious weakness Milner and Firmino fill? Good players both of them and I'm happy to have them I suppose, but both are a bit redundant.
{Ed001's Note - or Clyne. We had no need for a right back if we had a manager worthy of the name.}
29 Jul 2015 07:27:50
Dalglish = ready made player
Barnes = ready made player
Beardsley = ready made player.
As Ed says, there are countless examples.
29 Jul 2015 03:57:08
My point exactly edd02 thanks for putting it over better than I could lol
29 Jul 2015 03:57:55
ill be honest. we probably need a guy like you ed002 more than a new manager. someone who knows how things should be done.
29 Jul 2015 09:29:05
Milner to me replaces Gerard for experience/respect factor and puts more steel into midfield. what would have happened this season if Hendo got injured? We'd be playing Lucas/Allen and/or Can without any obvious experience midfield general.
Firmino replaces Sterling, can play no.10, wing or striker
Clyne replaces GJ, an obvious problem area for Liverpool for some time now. Agree Ed that a better manager could perhaps have fixed without using Clyne but it needed fixing.
29 Jul 2015 11:23:36
I disagree ed001 with your comments regarding our need for a right back.
Manquillo was a bad loan and not needed or good enough. Johnson was rightly let go. Wisdom had a poor season at west brom and was dropped and Dawson was played right back at times because wisdom was found lacking defensively. I know you rate the lad ed001 but I don't - if anything over the past year he has regressed. I wouldn't have bought Clyne necessarily but I think a right back was defo needed
29 Jul 2015 13:36:20
Puzzled, or maybe Tony Pulis came in and thought Wisdom was not good enuff (which is not suprising because Pulis doesn`t fancy defenders who are good on the ball and comfortable in possession) after he had played every game under Irvine before he got the sack. Or did you not factor in that when new coaches come in they change things? Besides, I will not take Pulis` judgement that seriously because after all, he`s the same guy that said such an aweful player like Shawcross could play for England. I think I`ll pass on his "great" evaluation of players, thank you.
29 Jul 2015 15:03:11
We already had a backup to Henderson in Allen and we had more than enough midfielders to replace Gerrard already. Sterling didn't need replacement either, Ibe, Markovic, and Lallana are plenty of coverage for him. I'd also say Benteke shouldn't have been needed if any of the previous 8 strikers or whatever Brendan had bought were worthwhile (Sturridge excepted). Sorry, I just see our squad as ridiculously bloated. It's very hard to make a matchday 18 without tens of millions of pounds being sat in the stands.