25 Aug 2015 08:16:48
I'm actually embarrassed that I've woken up to read posts about it being a good performance. It was the exact same shambles we had in our first game last year,neither side held onto the ball well.
We barely saw inside arsenal half in the 2nd stanza. What game were people watching?
We hit the post twice,well done,we stilll didn't score,they however did score a legitimate goal and once again the linesman comes to our rescue. we've garnered 3 points from poor decisions. we shouldn't be relying on poor linesmanship to win.
I am actually lost for words people think you can play well conceding so much space possession and shots in a half of football.
25 Aug 2015 08:28:25
How strange
25 Aug 2015 08:36:27
Well no one really cares if your embarrassed so if supporters want to be pleased with a point away at the emirates when our record over the last 12 years there has been poor then so be it
7 points from a possible 9 including arsenal away an stoke away I don't see the problem but what ever
25 Aug 2015 08:40:42
Your deluded . 4new players in that side going to the Emirates and should have been out of sight . Perfect away performance almost .
25 Aug 2015 08:41:46
Go look at stats from every team that goes there . They concede possession. It's a given . Get over yourself black cloud
25 Aug 2015 08:45:26
Can you tell me how many points we have won or clean sheets we have kept at the Emirates?? It may not have been the greatest performance but the team played as a team. We can all nitpick and say we would have liked something done differently in the match. I bet a pound to a penny that if you offered the result to every fan before the match they would have taken it.
Go back to preseason predictions on the opening fixtures and what everyone thought would happen. It's looking more and more positive as the games come and the more we have the more this team will gel and play better.
The futures bright, the futures orange (Brendan) for now.
25 Aug 2015 08:51:11
Give it a rest mate. It was a really good team performance - last season we'd have been sliced to bits, but it was actually nice to see the team defending to a plan and not all at sea.
Pessimistic, whinging bugger.
25 Aug 2015 09:02:49
Arsenal had 2 good chances all game! The Sanchez one and the Giroud one.
A fair result of last night game was 2-4 to Liverpool and iam counting the wrongly disallowed goal! The only embarasment are fans like you who need to get a grip! Absolutley pathetic post! (BR's biggest hater here btw) And clyne was brilliant, let in 2 crosses all game with Ozil, Sanchez and Monreal at him all game!!!! The danger really came with the very very useless Ibe yesterday came on. I'm going to school you son!! What has happened to Ibe btw? I have watched Ibe 80 times at least and these last couple of games are the worst i have ever seen from him! I don't get it, BR needs to take him out of the team and the lime light! Liverpool fans sat next to me at the Emirates last night were going mental about Ibe's horrendus performance, i was telling some of them to pipe down, he is a kid but then he continues to give the ball away time and time again and didn't complete 1 pass, i have to admit i started getting really annoyed with him aswell. The only player who didn't do well yesterday! I don't know how it looked on TV but from where iam sat Emre has to be one of the most lazy players ever tracking back!! Just wow, like bambi on ice when he is running without the ball back home.
25 Aug 2015 09:05:49
He'll come on about the disallowed goal blah blah . We still played superb even if we lost one nil . 2nd half tiring we kept shape and didn't give them much . Bodes well . Sturridge to come in and fitness of firmino will improve . Looks like defensively we are set . And as weeks go on we will improve offensively . You always have one guy who thinks he knows better , and doesn't realise that the other side are a very gifted side
25 Aug 2015 09:10:47
Oh dear bob, did you have a bad day yesterday. I only saw the highlights and from what i saw i was encouraged that we are at least making improvement. Couts looked unplayable, best player on pitch by a mile.
Have to give credit to rodgers for bringing in backroom staff, for now.
25 Aug 2015 08:54:45
The reason we barely troubled Arsenal in the second half, We went to the defensive mode for absolutely no reason in my head. We took them apart in the first half
Liverpool play brilliant when we press high and release it quick. We don't keep the ball and knock around. that's simply not our strength. The only missing link in our system is a pacy winger to take Ibe role.
If you really thought we would win at Emirates, Then I am sorry mate, I don't remember Liverpol winning at the Emirates in my distant memmory.
That Back 4 for were against some of the very best attacking players in the league.
I said 24 hours ago, Would have taken a defeat given we perform well.
If you have kept, Sanchez, Carozola, Wlacottt, OX, Ramsey and Ozil quite for 90 mts at emirates, You have done pretty well IMO.
25 Aug 2015 09:11:55
It wasn't a good team performance though was it.
it was a good result as Ron loves to bash on about.
But they scythed us open for a goal.
We only looked so good in the second half for me because Chambers was son uncomposed on the ball he invited us to have possession. in their half. even then we often squandered it and gave it back.
I've never seen us give away posession so cheaply as we did last night, Lucas Can Ibe Milner Clyne Gomez were all guilty of this. So much I feel has been lost in the excitement of the game that people actually think the performance overall is good.
What's good about allowing 19 shots,giving away a goal that's wrongly disallowed,allowing them to hit the post,and dominate the second half and invite pressure onto ourselves,we should have attempted to force the Arsenal backline into conceding the possession cheaply again. not sit at the edge of out 18 10 men behind the ball. in doing that we've become like the relegation fodder. I personally expect more from Liverpool than that.
I would love to know how many times each team turned over posession.Liverpool had a real chance to put a stamp on tonight with Koschielny and mertersacker out,and we didn't take advantage,and after 45 we were happy for a point.
I'm not going to sit here and delude myself the team played well,it didn't. I will accept we got a result,but I still see no great reason to be joyous in the performance. What's especially annoying is that people on here said Man Utd were playing terribly last year,but now don't see our own team playing poorly.
25 Aug 2015 09:13:08
no one gave you that hug then Bob? Life isn't that bad dude! Cheer up
25 Aug 2015 09:14:22
Ron
What the hell are you babbling on about? do you think that Arsenal are an easy team to play against? the tactics that we employed were spot on for such a game. it shows that the management team are improving. after getting home from the match at 3.15 this morning and then watching the whole game on t.v. yes, their goal should of stood. we should have scored 2 or 3 goals in the first half but we didn't. I should of won the lottery but I didn't. let's just be content with what we have got. a point down there is a good point. the team is improving, its a pity some of our fans are not doing the same. ah well. off to bed now happy with what I saw last night and this morning, apart from the negative views from some er fans?
25 Aug 2015 09:16:43
sorry. my last post was in reply to bobatron not ron
25 Aug 2015 09:23:38
Holy cr*p Bob, give it up. As they say, denial isn't a place in Egypt.
25 Aug 2015 09:34:57
The team isn't really improving though is it. It will be another lacklustre performance next week where hopefully a decision goes our way from the linesman again. This isn't about me being in a mood,there were positives to take out of it.
But I don't see sitting back an inviting Arsenal to give us pressure as a great tactic. They hit the post in that time and had a clear penalty decision disallowed for lucas tackle on Giroud. It was tactically naive. what Liverpool needed to do was play the same brand of football in the first halfnot sit on the 18 and lump it to benteke.This is the football we all hate from stoke westham and bolton,Liverpool are Better than that kind of football.
I'm not going to sit there and praise Clyne either when Sanchez drifted past him too easily in the second half time and again just like ramsey did for his goal that was ruled out.
I have no idea why we even brought Ibe on sitting so deep when the game called for better protection,we were never going to counter with Benteke so isolated,and his back up so entrenched in our half.
25 Aug 2015 09:36:03
instead of just analysing the result,analyse the game.
I actually can't believe some one has said they watched the highlights and said it's an improvement. SMH
25 Aug 2015 10:07:01
Yes bob 30 yrs of watching football allowed me to make an assessment of the performance based on extended highlights that you are moaning for the sake of moaning.
3rd game of the season. Pespective is a wonderful thing bob.
25 Aug 2015 10:45:21
I am embaressed aa well, but not by Liverpools performance last night but by this hilarious nonsense! Well done bobby, you're a comedian i must say!
25 Aug 2015 10:51:05
Sorry John but no amount of watching football allows you to get an understanding of a match through highlights,you want to know why.the word HIGH is used not the word low or average. If you think you can make an assessment of a game through 5 mintues of footage your deluding yourself
25 Aug 2015 11:04:02
Bob
Hate to break it to you mate, but teams will score against us. Being "scythed open" by arsenal once and getting away with it I'll take.
Sanchez did get past Clyne a couple of times, but I lost count of how many times he stopped him. And this is one of the best players in the league last season.
One thing it wasn't, was tactically naive. We set up how every single person on this site wanted us to.
I don't know what your problem is, but at least try to be a little balanced. You can't berrate our team for conceding a shot that hit the post and gloss over the fact that we did that twice plus we made the best chance of the match.
25 Aug 2015 11:27:43
Bob so all the other posters who watched the match and come to the conclusion that we are at least making improvement are also deluded. Perspective bob, perspective. Yes improvements are needed but to say the team went away to arsenal and peppered their goal first half and came away with a creditable draw was a poor performance is disingenuous.
25 Aug 2015 11:38:55
It wasn't once though was it. or Sanchez wouldn't have gotten in behind on several occasions int he 2nd half.
I mean you even admit that in your second paragraph!
I'm talking about the second half being tactically naive inviting the pressure where once again I will re iterate they hit the post and had a penalty turned down,(which was a clear penno) they absolutely battered us and we had no answer.
I am not glossing over anything I said in my other statement I wanted us to pressure more like the 1st half and close the spaces down and force their 2 very inexperienced centrebacks into making passes. It was naive to stop this play and let them come at us.
Please atleast read into what I'm writing. fact is we were saved blushes once again by a poor decision. This just ins't good enough going forward.
how can you say you made the best chance of the match? when the other team scored vs our keeper and we didn't score vs theirs?!?
25 Aug 2015 12:21:07
Bob, I think your expectations are crazy high, and not in a 'we not good enough for a top 4 finish' kinda way but in a 'why aren't we better than Barcelona' way. We were playing Arsenal away, a team that can beat any other team in the world on their day. We will never stop them having any chances at all. We will never stop Sanchez beating his man on occasion, he's world class.
What we did do is restrict their chances and have a number of our own at the other end. That’s almost the best we could hope for and we achieved it. We should be delighted with last night's performance and disappointed with the result.
25 Aug 2015 12:31:12
Well maybe they scored in yoyr imagination because the gane ended 0-0! The lines man decided it was offisde and nothing can chage that! Bentekes chance was the biggest chance all game, Coutinho his the bar and the post and if it wasnt for Cech we would be leading 3-0 at halftime. Obviously if you know your football you would know that Arsenal wouldn't play 2 halfes like that and that our energy levels would drop after the first half shift we put in. Arsenal started dominating once Firmino was taken off. But they created 2 chances worth metioning, Sanchez hitting the post and Giroud falling on his Arse which was a huge chance. Obviously Arsenal are the strongest team we have met so far and going by the performance in the first 2 games if you can't see that yesterdays performance was a huge improvement you have problems!