31 Aug 2015 13:33:21
just wondered if we have an interest in any fullbacks? If Rodgers sees Moreno as a winger we only have gomez and clyne. Also, what do you make of United getting Martial for 36 million? Makes Firmino look a bargain in my opinion.
{Ed002's Note - Firmino was far from a bargain - and it is nothing to do what other clubs pay for players.}
31 Aug 2015 13:55:32
Firmino was no bargain irrespective of what Martial just went for. W paid close to 40 million Euros for a player we did not need in the first place. wide forward would have been a better fit than another CAM
{Ed002's Note - More than €40M with the potential to rise to €50M.}
31 Aug 2015 14:44:29
What`s your prob with Firmino? He can play anywhere in the forward line and he may be overpriced but so is Martial who is not in Firmino`s class and who went for even more that Firmino did so still don`t understand your pointless rant, really.
31 Aug 2015 14:57:03
Where exactly did i rant? i'm just saying there were other players out there who would have been better value for money and suited our style better. Its my opinion and the first one i have given on Firmino. Never said he was not good enough or anything of the sort.
31 Aug 2015 15:10:49
Ed, will the fee rise to €50m if he wins trophies or is that set in stone anyway to rise that high
{Ed002's Note - It will be subject to several criteria as it was with, for example, Sterling, Aquilani, etc.. Sometimes appearances, sometimes Champions League etc..}
31 Aug 2015 15:11:12
That may be the case but if your op is there was someone better. OF COURSE, there are better players out there like I don`t know Messi, CR, Bale or whoever else so again, I don`t understand your opinion. IMO, I just thought you were having a go at the poor boy who was actually, the only bright spark in a deplorable perf on sat. If you have your op, i have mine as well
31 Aug 2015 15:25:50
I never said i wanted a better player than Firmino redohio. Read carefully before commenting. I wanted a player than our squad needed more than Firmino as we already have too many CAMs. A wide forward would have actually been a better addition than any CAM this season but unfortunately Brendan screwed up as usual.
31 Aug 2015 15:47:47
indian buzzer , i think firmino is more of a striker than a c.a.m he can play as a main striker he can also play as a wide forward , he has scored a lot of goals at his former clubs more so than a player in a c.a.m position , the fact he can also play as a c.a.m means there's more strings to his bow than just a wide forward , look at sterling who was a winger until BR arrived at our club then he used his as a striker not because he had the skill or composure of a striker or even that he scored a lot of goals from the wing but just because of his pace now sterling thinks he is a striker when in fact he is just a winger who is fast , so the fact that firmino can score goals has the composure and the skill and is also fast and direct means he is more of a striker central or wide than a c.a.m , let's give firmino a chance of more than a few starts before we judge where is best position is , i also think sturridge can play as a wide forward has he has played in tht position on a lot of occasions in fact i think he is better as a wide forward than a central one , with benteke in the team he is going to be the central striker and we will have sturridge on one side of him and firmino on the other side both as wide forwards , so i don't see the need for us to buy another wide forward ,plus with jordan ibe being so young he can learn to play other positions , i'm not the manager and i don't know his thinking or his tactics for the coming eason or when we are in europe , what concerns me more is our def-mid position because teams have been running through our midfield at will putting our defence and goal under pressure , we need a player who will stop this happening , that's what i think any way
31 Aug 2015 15:55:25
Again, you don`t understand my post. Firmino is an upgrade on our CAM`s. If anything, BR screwed up on buying Milner and not selling Allen. That is my opinion on our team as it stands now. Our squad just needed some tweaking but like you said. BR bought Milner who we did not need, in. Firmino IMO, we did need.
31 Aug 2015 20:32:53
Milner was a free agent so he wasn't "bought" by anyone
{Ed002's Note - Aside from the very significant signing on fee.}
31 Aug 2015 22:21:15
I would imagine all England international players have a very significant signing on fee, but defer to your greater experience ed
{Ed001's Note - still doesn't make him free.}
31 Aug 2015 22:49:26
And his obscene wages