15 Sep 2015 11:32:20
A thought.
During pre-season Rodgers made a comment along the lines of the team needing to be able to play both the "low block" and the "high press"
Does anyone think that once Allen, Lallana and Sturridge are fit we will revert to the latter?
The trio fit the high pressing system much better than the likes of Lucas, Ibe (who can adapt) and Benteke.
Combine that with Milner, Henderson and Firmino who most people will agree are individuals with boundless energy, and I think we will start seeing our "identity" come back.
15 Sep 2015 13:36:32
Are you suggesting that he will drop £32 million Benteke, £29 million Firmino and a central midfielder for Allen, Lallana and Sturridge? Sturridge should come in to the team, but no way should he be thinking of dropping Benteke yet.
15 Sep 2015 13:39:08
Sturridge doesn't fit the high press that well, neither does Allen as much as Henderson or Milner. Lallana does but so does firmino and coutinho demonstrated he can do it well against arsenal even though their back four basically handed it to us.
15 Sep 2015 13:39:08
even without the injuries we already have a team that can press.
15 Sep 2015 14:11:22
I can see why you might think that, but I don't believe it will happen.
I definitely think we'll go with a duo up top in Sturridge and Benteke, but it will probably be a 3-5-2 and play the same as last year.
15 Sep 2015 15:03:50
Let's be perfectly honest here, The 'High Press' worked because we had a player like Suarez who tortured teams with his relentless movement. (I think this is probably why Studge scored so many alongside him too) if you're going to 'Press' then you need to press from the front. We simply don't have that player now. I don't believe for a second that BR waved a magic wand and we were this high tempo Barca-esque team. It's purely down to what he inherited at the club. Namely Luis Suarez.
15 Sep 2015 15:55:58
I don't know who started it, but I never understood the actual meaning of high press and people crying loud out for it.
Swansea, Southampton. Arsenal teams that doesn't believe in high press instead they have a slow build up play and they play good football.
15 Sep 2015 16:50:40
Honestly think there's a fair chance he'll shift Sturridge wide (eventually- initially he'll sub for Benteke).
15 Sep 2015 14:11:09
I find it hillarious people are crying for the so called. "HIGH PRESS" Y are others perticularly Arsenal doesn't play the so called "HIGH PRESS"
Southampton and Swansea plays a slow build up football and has been very successful.
Are people confused with High Tempo and High press?
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where are they getting these words. ".High press. "
Could including Ed01, explain me what's wrong in Slow build up play if you could keep the ball well.
{Ed001's Note - Swansea do not play a slow build up, they shift it to the wingers quickly now. Not sure what that has to do with a press though. As for what is wrong with a slow build up, that is simple, it gives the opposition time to get in position.}
15 Sep 2015 18:44:35
Sturridge disagreed to being played out wide when Suarez was around, leading to Rodgers being forced to play the 4-4-2 diamond, though this time around, he appears even more rigid and seemingly want to stick with his favorite, but insipid 4-3-3 system. I am interested to see how this goes.
15 Sep 2015 18:57:29
Barca play the high press till this day for the success we now know of and so did we when we almost won the PL and when we went on that long unbeaten run last season (we crushed City playing that way) so we know it works, EG. Stop dragging other teams into this. N BTW, you must have never watched the Saints play because they play the high press and when we played them at St Mary`s, they pressed the living daylight out of us.
15 Sep 2015 19:09:03
Although he may not press as hard and fast as what Henderson and Milner do, I still feel Allen is the most intelligent presser in the squad. Saying that, and I agree slightly contradicting myself, I can see Allen being given the holding midfield role as if we do adopt the press, we need a player who can dictate play at the base. Although it may come across as slightly controversial, I feel Allen is actually the only playmaker in our side. Some may point to Coutinho but for me he is a "get the ball and create" player rather than actually understanding the game as such. That's not having a go at him because he is still our most influential player. But if we have a genuinely intelligent player behind him, who understands the game and is good on the ball, who unlike others I feel Allen is, I think the team would benefit. In the right system, where there is less space between the defenders and attackers, his small frame becomes less relevant and he can knit the play together.
And while I agree Sturridge is not the best presser, he does offer brilliant movement off the ball which is also a necessity of that pressing system.
Also to clarify on Firmino, my point was not to drop him. In actual fact I meant to say I think he can become a better player if we start pressing high than if we defend deep.
I agree we can't and won't drop Benteke nor should we based on his performances. I just meant to say, whilst his movement is adequate, I personally feel his best game is based on the ball coming into him rather than him going after the ball.
Cheers for all your replies.
15 Sep 2015 19:44:57
So what's the issue in keeping the ball at the feet Ed01?
They need a reason to bash him and ironically all they had wrong reason to bash a manager.
{Ed001's Note - what is this gibberish?}
15 Sep 2015 19:46:53
AG
For one last time there are around more than 50 top European clubs who plays the so called in effective 4-3-3 system with great in fact excellent success.
Another fact, the whole Italian teams last year played 3 at the back and they have some very good teams over there.
So don't bash someone because he plays 4-3-3. It's a tested and certified system.
15 Sep 2015 21:14:52
False, EG! AC Milan, Lazio, Roma, Samp, Inter, La Viola, Napoli, and Udinese and there are a lot more ( I watched all these teams play last season) and NONE of them played a 3-5-2. Even Juve, who have played a 3-5-2 since Conte, played a 442 diamond with Allegri. EG, you really need to stop making general statements because you sound like you`re just blowing hot air