30 Oct 2015 13:14:56
I just read on this page by a poster that firminho is better than coutinho because he is picked more for brazil?
Are fans already drinking before Halloween with that type of thinking.
for the sober posters. Coutinho is certainly not at his best but aren't most of the players recovering from Rodgers era? Very few are in top form and klopp has only been in the job a couple of weeks, not to mention coutinho has been dropping deeper to receive the ball as the midfield lack serious quailty going forward. The "top class" Milner certainly hasn't been helping in midfield.
Back coutinho lads. he's our best player on form and carried the team last season. He was the only one scoring the goals and even if he has a poor game he has the quality to win the game in any moment.
30 Oct 2015 13:37:27
You don't seriously believe Coutinho is better than Firmino do you? Firmino is a proven 10-20 goal a season player. Coutinho gets about 5. Last season Gerrard and Sterling were actually our primary goal threats. Coutinho had one good month were he hit about 4 in 4 games. He is massively inconsistent.
A great player when he's on form but since he's been at the club he's showed absolutely no signs of improvement offensively.
I honestly can't believe people rate him as our best player. I'd put Lucas, Sakho, Henderson, Sturridge, Clyne and Firmino ahead of him.
If Barcelona are genuinely interested his price will sky rocket. We'd be wise to sell him whilst his stocks high. Before everyone realises just how wasteful and inconsistent he is.
30 Oct 2015 13:44:12
Coutinho is very on and off, firmino when he is use to the league will be better for more of the time.
30 Oct 2015 13:51:10
Frimino scores more, but creates less. Probably because he plays further up front. They are very different players, neither are suitable or best for every chance or every opportunity.
30 Oct 2015 13:53:05
Coutinho is a good player. Miles of the level of Madrid and Barcelona though. He is becoming very selfish though always trying to be a hero. As for firmino I'd suggest you to go and watch some of his games from Germany. He was at his best better than Coutinho. Coutinho first need to work on hi consistency. One good month in a whole season is not good.
30 Oct 2015 14:21:41
Why are fans all of a sudden so critical about Coutinho? Every player goes through inconsistancy. You all raved about him not so long ago! I see Coutinho as trying to hard to get Liverpool back on track, he clearly feels much of the burden lies with him as he is one of the very few genuinely creative players we have. I see a player whO is desperately trying to raise his game and not someone who's been turned by the lure of the Spanish giants. YNWA.
30 Oct 2015 14:28:14
Too early to judge Firmino.
30 Oct 2015 14:43:37
Coutinho turned 23 in the summer. Give him a break. he's still young and inconsistent but i want him in a Liverpool shirt for a long time because unlike flavour of the month fans he's still our best player.
30 Oct 2015 14:49:32
Agree with Ron for once. People harping on about Firmino like he's the messiah come again.
Half of these people probably only saw youtube tid-bits before he joined us and have declared him world class.
30 Oct 2015 14:58:15
Firmino has only scored more than 10 league goals once in his career and it was two seasons back in 13/14. Outside of that season, he's been a consistent 5-10 goals per year player, similar to Coutinho really.
30 Oct 2015 15:06:22
Hsf
that's true however i have seen firminho and he is a very good player. Its not whoa better between firminho and coutinho ultimately, its some certain fans who haven't a clue about players quailty underestimating what a player coutinho has been for us. The boy has only turned 23'
30 Oct 2015 14:03:12
Why can't we keep both? All of a sudden Coutinho is crap and we should definitely sell him because we have a player who hasn't even completed 90 minutes for us yet and played decent against an injury hit Bournemouth. Who needs Klopp eh. Yes Firmino is very gifted, but he is still adjusting. quite frankly I would like to keep both players as long as possible as they are both extremely talented young individuals who will both improve the squad.
30 Oct 2015 16:28:17
Al think you'l find firmino on form while couts looks jaded is what's folks saying. I am of that opinion .
30 Oct 2015 17:12:22
Why has firmino suddenly added a h to his surname? It's like ilori and the L.
30 Oct 2015 17:22:01
Clyne better than Coutinho? I think you need to keep the hyperbole in check Adam. IMO Coutinho is LFC's best player, and as good as Firmino maybe, he has done nothing so far for LFC yet, so some poor points all over there.
{Ed001's Note - Clyne is an extremely average right back with a lack of positional awareness, who is easily distracted chasing after his man when he should be passing him over to the many players we already have in the middle. Coutinho is an excellent attacking midfielder who is suffering from a lack of options to play the ball to, nothing more.}
30 Oct 2015 17:22:10
Btw coutinho single handedly dragged us out the duldrums at times last year. He was consistent. especially from deep. Calling Clune better is f ing insulting. Come on adam.
30 Oct 2015 17:37:45
Llorhi.
30 Oct 2015 18:30:25
I'll give you an agree there Ron. Rather funny. even if you're a habitual offender.
30 Oct 2015 18:34:16
Isn't firmino only 24 himself?
Not seen enough of firmino to judge if he is better than coutinho or not, firmino does look the real deal though and coutinho has always been inconsistent to me. But yeah both are young and we should have a good idea who is better after a season or 2.
30 Oct 2015 18:39:19
Real Ag
with you on that man but i couldn't entertain talking to a certain brick wall.
bobatron, yes coutinho did and that has been forgotten. I mean the boy hasn't had sturridges movement or Henderson giving him the ball to feet near the goal. Coutinho will shine again soon enough.
30 Oct 2015 21:00:17
I only do it for a giggle boba. Like Flirminho. 😉.
31 Oct 2015 04:13:54
Don't understand why people feel the need to pit Coutinho against Firmino. Both must be first team starters if we are going to be successful.
Coutinho's form, it has been said, has been off.
The real problem is that he needs to play with creative forwards with movement and pace. Suarez offered that in spades. Sterling too. Sturridge as well.
Right now, instead of Suarez, Sterling, Studge, it's mainly been Origi, Milner, Lallana. No movement, zero pace, and little technical ability (beyond Lallana, who ball watches too often) . Benteke, too, moves better than Origi, but also doesn't do pacey, creative runs. He's waiting for crosses in the box.
So, with zero options to feed, or play off, Coutinho has been frustrated and tries to do it himself; but he's not fast enough to penetrate the box alone, so he blasts outside the box, or has been dispossessed.
And we need more pace, skill, movement in front of Coutinho.
Firmino *does* do creative runs and has the quality to beat a man or two with a technical dribble (OR A MEG! ), but realizing this doesn't mean we sit Coutinho.
Rather, we should drop Coutinho deeper, into a no. 8 position. where he can get back to playmaking instead of trying to blast inaccurate shots off outside the box.
In short, people have been on Coutinho's case, but I strongly believe his dip in form is mostly explained by the dip in quality of the players he's been playing with.
As I've said before: Coutinho's best game? Aston Villa, where he linked with Sturridge.