10 Nov 2015 23:42:38
Ed001. If you could choose two realistic transfer targets for January who would you pick? (Assuming we had the money situation under control)
{Ed001's Note - realistic? That's tough. I would suggest Zieler, though I am not sure if he can be considered realistic right now, but he seems the most realistic available keeper in January. I think the next major priority is centre back, so I would look at someone such as Mustafi. The reason I would suggest those two is that both have lived in England as youngsters, so should adapt quickly and not need months to settle in.}
11 Nov 2015 07:32:45
I'd personally go for timo horn the koln goalkeeper. He is fantastic and supposedly has a very low release clause.
{Ed001's Note - I deliberately chose players who would be likely to adapt quickly, as a January buy needs to make an instant impact.}
11 Nov 2015 07:57:59
So instead of Mustafi why not Ilori and save some money? He has also spent time here and funnily enough he's our player.
{Ed001's Note - obviously you were not reading the initial post.}
11 Nov 2015 08:27:02
Isn't Illori half english? I thought he grew up in England but was born in Portugal? I, like a lot of others, think it would be wise to give a young centre back like Illori a run in the first team. Can't be much worse than Skrtel imo. Maybe Richards or Okore will get imjured and we will get to see him start a phew for the Villa.
{Ed001's Note - you are thinking of Eric Dier I think. As for Ilori, I would like to see him back, but this is nothing to do with the original question, so let's drop it from this thread, as any more Ilori posts will have to be deleted from it.}
11 Nov 2015 08:27:06
What I mean Ed is FFP is an issue for us. So transfers are an issue for the club why buy when we have a player already. I agree a keeper is required but certainly not a centre half.
{Ed001's Note - we still need a centre half in January. Or would you prefer to rely on Lovren and an injury prone Toure as the back ups?}
11 Nov 2015 08:52:34
Both Ilori and Dier were born in England and grew up in Portugal.
{Ed001's Note - I never knew that. Not sure how it is relevant, it would be if he grew up here, but otherwise he has little experience here and has spent his career with us being farmed out abroad gaining even less experience of life in England.}
11 Nov 2015 08:59:51
Ed001, surely Mustafi would cost around the £20 million mark?
{Ed001's Note - which is what we paid for Lovren, so what is your point? Valencia are a team that, while no longer in the financial dire straits they were a few years ago, are not really in a position to refuse good offers, so he is attainable if we are willing to pay.
I was answering a question based on there being money to spend, not what I would do in the current circumstances. All these ridiculous questions because no one reads the initial post properly!}
11 Nov 2015 09:47:30
I don't think people aren't reading original post Ed. I see what your were asked and why answered with what you did. Posters are simply saying that there is no need to spend and spend given what we have available and with FFP that's all.
We have wasted a lot of money over last few years. Ideally for me our defence for next season should comprise of the below.
Moreno.
Flanaghan.
Clyne.
Lovren.
Sahko.
Skrtle.
Ilori.
Gomez.
I would give Lovren until the summer to see if he stake a claim and does actually have that opportunity now given Sahko injury. I don't think Toure will get a new contract and I can see Wisdom being sold as well to be honest. But the eight above would be more than capable of being a good defence under Klopp.
{Ed001's Note - that has nothing to do with the thread though, so please stick to the topic or start a new one to discuss that particular topic. It is bad enough when Harry constantly hijacks every thread to discuss his latest obsession, without everyone else doing it as well!}
11 Nov 2015 09:55:11
Fair point Ed will do no worries.
{Ed001's Note - cheers, otherwise the original post just gets swamped under and forgotten.}
11 Nov 2015 10:15:15
That was a painful read. Focus on the initial post rather than trying to pull apart what Ed001 replied with. Two realistic signings! Not whether we should/shouldn't sign or spend money.
So on topic, those that are saying we should not sign a CB are you saying we should be strengthened elsewhere?
11 Nov 2015 11:28:08
I don't think we ''desperately'' need anything in January. A centreback better thank Skrtel and Lovren would be nice, and as has been the case for a long time another GK. I don't think January is the time to go shopping for either of these given what we have in the short term, unless we are drastically off pace in January and Migs is at a major fault for this.
RRZ is very well thought of, as are a few German keepers. I presume is availability is down to the fact he can sign a pre contract for the summer and so Hannover may wish to move him on for some funds.
I don't know much about Mustafi so won't comment on ability or situation. But LFC have gone from a situation of being overloaded with centrebacks, last 2 years t having 1 good one who's out injured,2 below the necessary standard and an old man that may retire at the end of this year.
11 Nov 2015 12:15:04
Keeper if anything in January for me and that's all. Summer is best time to buy as you have said.
11 Nov 2015 12:32:29
It would be something if we bought Mustafi and Zieler - a former Everton and a former Manchester United youth player. Would be good fun if they became stars for us :)
11 Nov 2015 12:42:20
I agree with your logic ed001 but surely that was the logic behind buying mignolet, lovren, lallana, lambert and balotelli. And that didn't turn out very well did it.
Mustafi would be expensive but could do the business but i'd like to see us go for leno first.
{Ed001's Note - it is not the logic behind the buys that was the problem, it was the choice of players and their abilities that was the issue.}