18 Jan 2016 14:51:19
Just so you know Eds, I'm not asking for any information or opinions from you, just recommending a player I've seen quite a bit of this year.
We can't score goals and therefore a lot of people think we should replace one or two of our strikers. A name that hasn't been mentioned is Leigh Griffiths of Celtic. Only 25 years old. Bagging 20+ goals a season up in Scotland (already got 24 in 31 games this year) is impressive regardless of the league. He has a sweet left foot, works very hard, attacks balls into the box, can run with the ball and create chances for others etc.
Just putting his name in the mix. Guys got serious talent and shouldn't be dismissed just because he hasn't had a break in a top league yet. After all, Dalglish came from the same club, Rush came from Chester and so on. It's been a while since we had a decent Scot in the side. Charlie Adam and Danny Wilson certainly didn't cut the mustard but I 'cannae' see Griffiths failing to score goals in any league ;)
18 Jan 2016 15:13:37
No ems a lot of people believe there should be changes in the forward line not strikers I. e milner and lallana Sturridge and ings are injured, firminho is doing his best playing with bang average players up fronT.
18 Jan 2016 15:13:43
Worth a look at him but can't imagine he'll have the quality we need. Is he better than Ings?
Back in the day the Scottish league was more competitive. Scotland used to be a good international team, Scottish teams would win European trophies.
These days they aren't competitive.
18 Jan 2016 15:19:57
As a Scot myself I can tell you about this guy. talent wise he is a real predator, he's got it all to be the sort of striker that would suit us. Personality wise he is a total disaster. He's one of these guys that's always in trouble of one sort of another and not the sort of Ballo laughable trouble either.
18 Jan 2016 15:27:51
Big Al I've seen plenty of people suggest we need a striker including some of the editors. I only see the need if we sell some myself though.
Ron the guy is a class above anyone else in Scotland. He's just broken the record for the fastest half century of goals in Celtic History. People seem to think that every league in the UK outside of the Prem is a massive step down in quality but a goalscorer is a goalscorer. Look at the likes of Vardy, Ighalo, Austin, Ings, Afobe etc who just keep on stepping up divisions and looking like they've always been there.
We need a fox in the box to replace Benteke and that's exactly what Griffiths is. It can probably wait until the summer and I'm not saying he'd be my first choice. But we could do a lot worse than him! I know I'll get hammered for this, but he reminds me of Robbie Fowler.
18 Jan 2016 15:34:02
About 160 goals in 310 career games. We aren't scoring enough goals and this guy has risen up through the leagues in Scotland as well as had a stint in the English football league and every time he steps up to a new division, he continues to score better than a goal every other game.
It's remarkable.
18 Jan 2016 15:36:50
I stop reading at " bagging goals in Scotland. "
18 Jan 2016 15:45:47
Leekuanyew, 3 years ago Jamie Vardy was bagging goals in pub football.
Such hipocrites. All crying for Ward to play because he did well at Aberdeen but Griffiths isn't even worth a mention because he plays in Scotland.
breaking rumour: Liverpool Rumours in Disarray after realising Aberdeen is in Scotland.
{Ed001's Note - I would think more of a problem is his issues with drunken misbehaviour and lack of real ability other than finishing, rather than where he plays. He is no Ian Rush or John Aldridge or Vardy for that matter. He is an average striker playing for a team light years ahead of the opposition and benefitting from it.}
18 Jan 2016 15:54:20
Amoo scores goals in Scotland ngoo scored goals in Scotland.
18 Jan 2016 16:07:52
I may have the wrong player here but didn't Griffiths struggle big style at wolves? might have been in the championship tho. not sure if he was there when they had a season in the prem?
{Ed001's Note - yes he was at Wolves but he was young.}
18 Jan 2016 16:10:47
Griffiths signed for Wolves in 2010 and left in 2013.
Most of his time was spent out on loan and in the one season he was actually at Wolves he scored 12 league goals in 26 appearances - in League 1.
So, rather than go to Scotland think we should look at:
Adam Armstrong Coventry City 16
Nicky Ajose Swindon Town 13
Billy Sharp Sheffield United 13
Leon Clarke Bury 12
all scored more and part-way through season.
18 Jan 2016 16:14:04
Griffiths has scored 3 goals in 2 games this season against Danny Ward. Might as well just keep Mignolet in goal if Ward gets beaten so frequently by average strikers ;)
Although I wasn't aware he had drinking problems to be honest. Be a shame to see another British talent go the same way as Gazza, Carroll etc.
{Ed001's Note - he is not a talent, and that is just another ridiculous stat. Griffiths plays for a team that has a budget roughly treble the rest of the SPFL teams can manage, which dominate almost every game. The question should be why he is not scoring amounts similar to the likes of Aubameyang or Messi if he is so good. Carroll was never particularly talented either, to use his name in the same sentence as Gazza is just obscene.}
18 Jan 2016 16:35:48
He is scoring more goals per minute than anyone in Europe to my knowledge Ed. A goal every 80 minutes.
To say he is not a talent is unfair.
I was winding you up about the 3 goals against Ward btw. Thought the " ;) " made it obvious!
I'm not saying he's my first choice signing. I only said the other day that we should go all out to sign a world class striker like Aubameyang, Lacazette etc.
But if the money isn't there to do so then Griffiths is a good option in my opinion. Or was before you just told me he's got an alcohol problem anyway. Knowing that now, I'd steer clear. Either way I am sticking by my statement that he is talented. So what if his only real skill is scoring goals? I don't see that as a bad thing. So much is asked of strikers these days that we forget what actually wins games; goals!
I can tell your opinion won't be swayed though so yet again, I'll agree to disagree with you Ed001. Hopefully one day every planet in the solar system will line up with both of our opinions and we can be best friends?
{Ed001's Note - I have watched him hundreds of times, he is simply not that talented, no matter what pointless stats or playing up front for a team many times better than the rest is telling you. He is like Pedro, making a living off the back of better quality team mates than any of his opponents, rather than being anything special himself. He is at his level there, but not good enough for the Prem, like Anthony Stokes, though not quite as much of a prick off the field, just.}
18 Jan 2016 16:39:25
Like I say, worth the scouts checking him out but we don't need any more trouble makers.
18 Jan 2016 16:48:26
I don't always agree with the things ems says but he generally just comes across as a reasonable poster on here.
The lad throws out a suggestion about a celtic player and everyone shoots it down. I know we lost yesterday and there's a touch of negativity around but seriously, it was just a suggestion about a player who could be affordable. The eds are brilliant here without a doubt but if there's one thing i take from what they tell us, its that the club is completely skint bar borrowing more. The comment seemed sensible to me.
{Ed001's Note - I have no problem with who the thumb plays for, it is his ability and off field troubles that make me suggest looking elsewhere. No point buying for the sake of it. Griffiths is a bit like Jerome Sinclair, he will score goals but you will be playing with ten men unless the ball is in the area. Oh and he is not that clinical either, he does get plenty of opportunities which go begging, it is just that there are always more when you play for a team that is a light year ahead of the opposition. We just don't need to buy for the sake of it. Just because a player is cheap does not mean we should go and get them. By the way, Celtic don't exactly let their players go cheap anyway so it seems a pointless discussion as a 'cheap option'.}
18 Jan 2016 16:48:29
EMS and his stats, again. Anyway, i want no one bought just for the sake of it. i know the situation seems desperate but buying someone just for the sake of it is just nonesense and as Klopp said in his interview, when you buy players at a position in this case striker, what happens to the ones already there? You can`t just dump them especially if they are good players as Studge, Origi and Ings are. I say, we buy no one, period. A loan? Maybe.
18 Jan 2016 17:00:16
Nicky ajose. Now that's funny, poster has obviously never seen him play.
18 Jan 2016 17:19:26
Cheers for the reply ed1
As with basically every time, you make your point precisely and well. My problem wasn't that the club is or isn't going out and buying some drunken striker because he could be a good cheap gamble. My issue was with the reaction of the posters which just seemed like jumping on any alternative idea with negativity.
My thoughts aren't worth much because i'm just not that knowledgeable about football apart loving our club. I think Liverpool fans will really need to wise up in the next couple of years if things don't take a drastic turn for the better on and off the field. We may need to adjust our expectations significantly about players to be bought and CL hopes very soon. I just hope the club's fans will stick and prove themselves as genuine fans when things get tougher.
Apologies for the essay!
{Ed001's Note - EMS made a mistake, he never picked the player because he was a wunderkind on fm or got high ranking on FIFA/PES. He never even found youtube highlights to show off those two seconds when he actually looked like he was top class. He just put a name out there and that was always going to lead to everyone jumping on him unless it was a huge name that everyone knows. Mind it doesn't help that his choice of players tends to be mostly average players that are barely fit to wear their current shirt, let alone ours.}
18 Jan 2016 17:54:17
Kyle Turner from Bromsgrove Sporting
The next Jamie Vardy.
18 Jan 2016 19:40:24
As a Scottish football follower, and a Liverpool fan, I wouldn't have Leigh Griffiths anywhere near the football club. Proper chip on his shoulder, borderline Premier League standard player (definitely not a top-half player), and, worst of all, he's prematurely bald, and you just can't trust that!
There's pretty much no senior players in Scotland that would be a worthwhile signing for Liverpool, and that makes me sad to say that.
18 Jan 2016 19:54:17
Would Austin had been worth a punt at the money being banded around. Seems like we've wasted far more money on players we never needed and maybe he would of been worth the gamble.
{Ed002's Note - Austin was not of interest to Liverpool at all and critically wanted to play in the south.}
18 Jan 2016 18:18:33
Fair enough ed01
It's safer to just go with the usual schtick and say Benteke and Mignolet are crap on here i guess!
Quick one for you ed, i've been trying to post regularly on the golf page lately, i saw you had some contributions on there previously. Drop by if you get a chance Ed.
{Ed001's Note - yeah I was just trying to get a convo going, I am not a golf fan, Ed025 is the one who loves it.}
18 Jan 2016 20:43:44
😂😂😂 he is shocking very very bad shout.