19 Jan 2016 18:32:16
Good evening ed001
Straight question mate I appreciate your info today and possible Strikers we are considering. Do you think we will bring a Striker in this window? Please.
Wont hold you 2 it mate lol.
{Ed001's Note - I think it looks like we will now, though I am hoping we won't.}
19 Jan 2016 19:10:29
You mean long don't you, oh dear, that's as bad as mignolets new contract, more sound business not!, fsg are having there money pissed up the wall big time.
19 Jan 2016 19:13:20
Is Long the only striker we're looking at now ed?
{Ed001's Note - right now he seems to be the main focus.}
19 Jan 2016 19:27:07
There is absolutely no way that Klopp has come to the club and said 'I want Liverpool to sign Shane Long'.
He's never heard of the guy. I thought we'd be dripping in Germanz by now haha. Seriously though, whys he not sticking to what he knows.
{Ed001's Note - because they need time to adapt and we are looking for someone who will have an immediate effect.}
19 Jan 2016 19:40:12
Ed001 are you just winding up the Irish on here? Lol
What immediate effect would long have to our team?
{Ed001's Note - I didn't say I think it is a good idea, but he was recommended as being a good fit to the way Klopp wants to play.}
19 Jan 2016 19:44:34
Ed001. Would you have preferred Charlie Austin to Shane Long? Or any other players Ed.?
{Ed001's Note - I would prefer us to make use of what we have. This season was never going to amount to anything due to starting it with Rodgers in charge, it should give Klopp free reign to just look at the kids in competitive matches with no pressure. The likes of Ibe and Ojo could be enough to see us through the season and then re-assess in the summer.}
19 Jan 2016 19:45:54
Is bony at all available? Think he would suit klopps style of play.
19 Jan 2016 19:48:54
Im wondering which member of the 'brains trust' put Long forward. He's bloody awful.
19 Jan 2016 19:59:15
Long on a loan would be somewhat alright by me, but based on what's been said it'd have to be a permanent move and likely a ridiculous price which just makes so little sense. Bizarre decision if it ends up happening that way really.
19 Jan 2016 20:04:35
Long works really hard and at least he can find the net, I would play him ahead of lallana any day, just hope its a loan til the end of the season tho, think we do deserve more quality in the long run
And i'm sure Klopp has heard of him before, he did give Ireland an unexpected win over ze Germans not too long ago.
19 Jan 2016 20:08:14
The way i see it is that Klopp is trying to get something out of this season. Still in the FA Cup, League Cup, Europa Cup and top 4 in the league. Our goal scorers are injured and Benteke isn't cutting it at the minute. Do i think Shane Long is the answer? Not by a long shot, but i think i can see where Klopp is coming from. I think he needs to use who he has and ride out the season but that doesn't mean chucking in the towel, just use who we have got. You never know Benteke could go on a purple streak, Origi might score a few, Sturridge could get fit. Just don't spend anything until the Summer. Certainly sell by all means. Get rid of the players who have no future. Try to see the wood for the trees.
19 Jan 2016 20:12:10
A over reaction here, long is a very fast hard working playing and makes brilliant runs which exactly what we need, long is a brilliant player 10 goals plus a season at least.
{Ed001's Note - so 10 goals from a striker is now brilliant? You have a very different definition of the word from me.}
19 Jan 2016 20:17:27
Its just not the goals ed his runs open up defences maybe I'm biased as an Irish fan but i think he is a huge improvement on benteke and origi.
{Ed001's Note - I don't see him as an improvement on Origi at all, not sure he is any improvement on Benteke either, just presents us with different problems. We need a striker who can get into positions and then finish, Long is hopeless at that. He has a run of about 5 games and scores in them, then doesn't score again for months.}
19 Jan 2016 20:27:46
Ed001 can you not put a stop to this pursuit of Long or at least try!
{Ed001's Note - sorry mate, I wish I could make the club see sense and realise we should have signed no one in this window.}
19 Jan 2016 20:28:15
I really like long, he is not prolific nor will he ever be but I would take him over Benteke all day.
19 Jan 2016 20:31:44
edo1 u say he has been recommended and under this thread that the owners have made lots of mistakes on recruitment well why are they being aloud to make more mistakes surely klopp would say no to long why don't we just change are name to Southampton the more his goes on the more I believe Rodgers is rght the manager has no say on transfer now if some one told you edo1 when klopp first signed that caulker and long would be his first signings wat would you say? now I used to think we have good owners but the more these mistakes go on the more I side with waro.
{Ed001's Note - not sure how this is the owner's fault, nor what Brendan Bodgers lies have to do with anything? Bodgers and now Klopp, can reject any player they don't feel is right. Klopp is being cautious, he is not taking chances on more injuries. His choice. Personally I do not feel it is the right one, but it is the one he is making.}
19 Jan 2016 20:37:03
Will the real Jürgen Klopp please stand up?
Someone get us out of this nightmare!
Mignolet, Caulker and Long makes Roy Hodgson's transfers look inspired.
There is no way Shane Long will ever be good enough to play for a club challenging for honours.
Is he better than Ings? NO WAY!
19 Jan 2016 20:40:51
What I think is funny is that some of the people knocking the thought of us signing Long actually thought us taking Caulker was a good idea! I'm not saying Long is the solution to our striking issues but some opinions don't make sense.
19 Jan 2016 20:49:41
Caulker is a loan. He leaves in the summer.
Long is not on loan and will require a large transfer fee for Southampton to sell. Then when he fails, which he will, no-one will sign him because at Anfield he will be being paid a kings wage.
It makes no sense, he is a very mediocre player of which we are already massively oversubscribed.
19 Jan 2016 21:46:37
Ron- I get what people are saying but Caulker isn't cheap, he us on substantial wages. Long although far from perfect by any stretch has proven he can score in the PL! Caulker has only proven he can defend badly. He has been garbage at every club he's been at. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't have Long either. I'm with Ed 1 on this and think we should of gotten nobody in this windows. I just feel that welcoming Caulker while in the same breath dismissing Long is senseless.
19 Jan 2016 22:19:46
Long will do the work required but I doubt he'll get the goal return required
Still, he'll be better than Benteke.
19 Jan 2016 22:49:11
I think someone like Long is exactly what we need. He's in th he mould of Dirk Kuyt. Someone who'll run all day chase every ball, a nightmare for defenders decent in the air won't shy out of 50/ 50 challenges and capable of a few goals. He beat Arsenal on his own a few weeks back. Has to be better than the few that we have. Take Long send back Lallana maybe.
19 Jan 2016 23:11:53
I agree with Ed. Long won't solve our problems and is no improvement on Ings, Studge or even Origi. Klopp may wanna get something out of this season and as noble as that is, Long is not who we need. Klopp is not ruling anything out which is good but I plead with him to reconsider. As for Mike g, BR is nothing but an irresponsible person who has used every opportunity to twist the truth about his blunders here and uses the press to trash the club. We all know what happened with transfers under his tenure so using Klopp's situation to support BR's irresponsibility and lack of ethics and integrity is just wrong and shameful.
19 Jan 2016 23:28:50
Edd001 you mention "Klopps choice ". Mate I strongly believe he is agreeing to suggestions. I cannot grasp klopp signing caulker and long if he has seen them play. I could never belive that in a million years.
{Ed001's Note - but he is choosing to listen.}
20 Jan 2016 05:49:10
This was always my worry.
When we think of Klopp, we think of all the great young players Dortmund signed and Klopp helped shape them into a world class team-- Reus, Lewandowski, Aubameyang, Hummels, Gotze, etc.
But the reality is that it wasn't Klopp who was out scouting, spotting the talent, and recruiting.
It was Dortmund's DOF Michael Zorc. Zorc clearly had an eye for talent, and Klopp relied on it. With Zorc's scouting and Klopp's coaching/ managerial talent, they built a world beating BvB squad.
Now that Klopp is at Liverpool, he doesn't have time to scout and spot talent. But he no longer has Zorc to rely on; instead, he has the same LFC scouting system and transfer committee that fed Rodgers.
If, indeed, we were considering Long, it sounds to me Klopp is relying on the LFC bureaucracy/ committee to suggest options. There's no way Klopp has any idea of Caulker, Long, Berahino, etc.
I just don't understand why we wouldn't consider options outside the EPL, which is such an overrated league in terms of talent outside the top teams.
Volland, Embolo, Batshuayi, Icardi, Inaki, etc, etc, etc. So many far better options out there compared to overrated EPL players like Long and Berahino. How many crappy, overrated, overpriced EPL strikers do we have to buy before we learn our lesson? Seriously.
Woe unto Liverpool if Klopp continues to listen to these brutally bad, third rate suggestions. What a clown show. Klopp needs to clear the whole lot out.