06 Feb 2016 08:12:01
Guys regarding the walkout @ 77 minutes:
Pls do not do it we are losing to Sunderland.
Just a request. Thnx.
06 Feb 2016 08:47:02
It will be the same "fans" that were on here wanting LFC to pay over the odds for Texiera too.
Providing the majority of seats are priced at a fair rate to allow the average working class fans to attend then why shouldn't the club look for additional revenue through a small percentage of seats in the new stand?
06 Feb 2016 09:39:23
I along with maybe one or to others on these pages are objecting to the new prices the rest who don't have to pay them are not bothered so I feel your post is aimed at me beddoerocks.
Let me be clear, I was delighted we didn't sign texiera or any other massively overpriced player this January and am hoping that the club in future play a lot more hard ball with clubs trying to take us for a ride and walk away from deals when we're clearly being taken for mugs because we've displayed stupidity on transfers in the past, now that's just me you would have to ask the other couple of posters who have shown displeasure at the new pricing if they want to massively over pay for players but don't want the ticket price rises.
Oh and for the record ticket prices have never paid for player transfer fees and never will so your whole point is redundant but wanted to answer it anyway.
06 Feb 2016 09:11:25
I think some people need to sit down, with a calculator, and work out exactly how much more money these seats will provide the club.
Then ask yourself - why would they do it for such a relatively small amount of cash compared to the extra millions it will receive in tv money?
Then ask yourself - is this not just a precursor to increased ticket prices for the future?
Eventually people will be priced out of the ground whilst the club complains about the atmosphere.
The walkout will give them a taste of that.
Personally I choose not to walk out today because I want to support the team, but I disagree strongly with the price rises.
This rise is the thin end of the wedge and that is what the critics of the walkout are missing.
06 Feb 2016 09:50:24
Don't you understand that this is about the clubs utter contempt for the loyal fan base. The additional annual revenue raised from ticket sales will be £2 million in a year where the club will raise an additional £50 million from TV rights, potential naming rights for the stand, huge increase in corporate facilities and additional "commercial partners". This is pure greed and shows how out of touch the club and its owners are and then they send the stooge Ayre out to warn fans about "be careful what you wish for". Well I tell what I wish for. A club that I still feel connected to that isn't about money grabbing players and agents seeing the new deal as a way to treble their already obscene wages. A club that does not think it is financially prudent to buy Aspas, Alberto, Illori, Borini and Balotelli amongst others I am sure I have forgot, for inflated transfer fees and then loan them out having played possibly 50 games between them and eventually sell them at a huge loss. A club that doesn't spend £15 million a year on agents fees. What other industry in the world would run themselves like this? To put the price increase into context the total increase in ticket sales is about one third of Sturridges wage. The club are taking the piss and it is time to take a stand. This was a huge opportunity for football to finally stop treating the loyal fan base like shit and actually reduce prices and try to rebuild the lost connection many now feel with LFC and football in general. I will be leaving in the 77th minute and will support any future action as will all of my mates who have been going the match for the last 40 years and have had a gut full of the corporate beast that football has become. Take action now before the last remnants of a once great football club is tossed away.
06 Feb 2016 10:08:38
Football is a business. It's not going to change I'm afraid and business means making money. Tickets are overpriced and eventually people will stop going. The whole football machine these days disgusts me. Overpaid players and far to much money all round. Gone are the days when fans really mattered. Revenue from tickets is nothing really compared to all the other income involved but walking out is just wrong. That's not supporters that's politicians. The players don't make up the ticket prices, so why punish them? That is what u are doing. providing negativity to wash down onto the pitch. please don't YNWA.
{Ed001's Note - so what do you suggest they do?}
06 Feb 2016 10:17:43
I've touched on that subject further down the page Ron, but I fear it will fall on deaf ears and that point ignored. Underneath the floodlights, excellent post my mate, glad to see a few more posters on here supporting the cause, as for Ian ayre, he needs too heed his own words, he's living upto the opinion I've always had of him, yet another who's mask is slipping. ðŸ.
06 Feb 2016 11:08:35
I think quie a few people are missing the point in regards to why ticket price increases even by small amounts will have a detrimental effect on the supporter base and in particular the local supporter who try's to go week in week out.
We don't come from a wealthy area, we don't have the same high earning jobs that say London has. People local to the area know what it's like, and I'm not doing the poor us thing either, it's simply fact that the average wage in the greater Liverpool area is quite low compare to other parts of the country. I myself am very fortunate to b currently living in Aus doing a job I love and getting paid half decently for it, this allows me to pay for 3 season tickets a year, 2 of which I only have as they have been in the family for god knows how long, and my own in particular which I was on the waiting list for 13 years to get. But that's a none issue.
The main issue is affordability to the local scouse supporters, can they afford to go? Maybe now they can, in 3 years time? Not likely. Can they afford to take 1 child? Probably not. How many people do u know that only have 1 child, not many, most have 2-3, can the local farther take his 3 kids to watch the mighty reds at Anfield, not a chance, and it's only going to get harder.
It's these people who stand in the Kop, it's these fans who create the chants, who sing, spend weeks making flags and banners. It's these people that were taken every week like myself by there dad's every week. These are the ones that bleed not just red a special type of red. Football is our lives, it's our culture, it's the city's culture. How does all this continue if our future fans can't get into a game? How does the history continue if those that were there are there no longer?
It's not just a matter of a few £, it's principle and the future of our club. Now before any one gets snotty, I'm not saying the fans from other parts of the U. K. Or international supporters aren't important, quite the opposite, without you guys and myself when I'm out here in Aus, I pay to watch, I subscribe to 4 different media outlets to watch my beloved team, among lots of other football and without you the TV rights deals wouldn't be what they are. So this is not an attack upon your good selves.
This is about our identity, it's about a culture, about a race of people that are different to any others you will meet, and of the best kind too ;) This is our future and this little step right now is paving the way to end all that for future generations.
Please please please, don't call people whiners or get on them for being angry or upset about these price rises, try too understand what it is that makes people feel the way they do, listen to YNWA and stand by there side and support them.
I won't go as far to attack the owners on here, regardless of what I think about them, remember too though that it's not wholly on the owners, it's the board etc as well or more so.
One of the requests that were to put to the club but the representatives of 2 different supporter groups who over the last 18 months have works with the club on this issue. Was to de-catergarise away tickets, meaning the away support dosnt pay more than the home teams cost of ticket, this would have had nearly no effect whatsoever on the club yet they refused it. It's these decisions among others that are starting to create some of the bigger issues between supporters and the club and for no good reason.
Just try to understand where these guys are coming from, it will make it easier to read and understand there way of thinking. Support each other, remember no matter who you are or where you come from, Liverpool FC isn't a matter of life and death, it's much more important than that, always remember YNWA.
{Ed001's Note - that is an important point that is being missed, it is not just our club's fans that are being shafted by this, it is every single away fan. So when people are on Waro etc's back claiming they are just thinking of themselves, you might want to go away and have a look at this issue and realise it is not them they are protesting on behalf of. It is those who can't afford to go, those away supporters that help create an atmosphere to savour and the future generations of reds that will be no more if the club gets its way on this.}
06 Feb 2016 11:17:33
Thats the point Waro. Yesterday you stated you were doing it for the "Liverpool fans". In reality its a little bit of scouse self preservation. If say a thousand people walk out today, does that mean you don't speak for the other 43000 that don't walk out? I certainly don't think you speak for the people who travel a distance to watch Liverpool, the ones who are not so fotunate to be able to get tickets on a regular basis.
06 Feb 2016 11:33:30
Spot on Ed,
Ed again makes a very pertinent point, it's not just some fans, it's away fans that come to Anfield, and it's our travelling supporters that are hugely effected as well. The more clubs do this, like we are currently doing, like Arsenal, Man U etc, the quicker and easier it becomes for other clubs to follow the same path, and for what? In respect of the current financial incoming into football, it's an insignificant amount the gain by it. We are about to be bumped up to the tune of roughly 40 million pound, could be more, could be less, we will sell naming rights to the new stand and the stadium. New sponsorships are constantly being sorted. To drop the average ticket to £35 and freeze season ticket prices would only lose the club at most 7 million pound a year, to us that's a lot of money, to the club not so. When they trot out lines like paying for the new stand, ignore there tripe, the hospitality packages they will be selling in the new stand more than covers the "repayments" being made for it.
But lads seriously it's a much bigger and broader issue than just money, it really is. There's a lot of info out there on these and many other issues, a lot of its tripe too but there's some good stuff out there. Try out some different podcasts, or websites for supporter groups, you will weed out the garbage ones, the good ones though, they have people with a proper understanding of what's happening around the club, and the ways in which they work with the club.
What we are all reading on these pages is great stuff, yes it's all opinion, but it's our opinions, and it's only a tiny sample size, but trust me when I say that it's pretty tame on here compared to what people are saying inside the ground on match days, and at pubs and shops and workplaces etc every day of the week.
I'm in no way trying to forc my views upon others nor do I think my opinion is worth more or better than others, just saying please take the time to look around and understand the issues, learn all you can about what's happening at the club and with supporters and why, don't be so quick to judge or close your mind to other people's views, they have them for a reason, learn what that reason is and try to understand it.
06 Feb 2016 13:42:18
Hi all
I do understand the price 77 is pretty high but walk out is a way of disrespecting the club which nine as an lfc family should do just my personal opinion
Always ynwa.
06 Feb 2016 14:45:34
The comment was not aimed at you Waro. You are not alone in the protest against the increase and that protest is wider than these pages so please don't take offence personally.
I understand. But disagree with the protest. We have a new stand, bigger capacity and more revenue to help us compete. Do I care about a tiny percentage of overpriced seat? No. Will people pay that price. Yes.
Are we making every fan pay that price no!