08 Feb 2016 16:28:50
I have to admit I am worried for our club
With both on and off field issues anything can happen, look at Leeds, Newcastle, blackburn.
Now I am not saying we will reach those extremes but you get my drift.
Our players are constantly bashed, and they must know it, look at Mignolet the bloke must be a jittering mess. Anfield is a morgue nowadays which shows little support even when winning.
The fans protests against the owners is getting louder, this is causing a real divide and unrest at the club as a whole.
We are playing like a mid table team, a defeat at the weekend and we are most likely bottom half!
With all this going on we will struggle to attract players. Who would want to come to us at the moment other than for money.
Klopp has a massive summer because if it goes wrong it will be a very long way back. The stats don't lie other then one freak season in rogers reign we have been sinking deeper and deeper.
I'm not sure what my exact point of this post is other then voicing my concerns. Does anybody feel the same way or am I being extreme?
08 Feb 2016 17:39:11
If we drop Simon from squad I think we aren't that bad. Some stats (who scored, anfield chat) suggest he has lost us 15 points this season because of individual mistakes. Say if we had a de gea we would be second in the league while still massively underperforming. That says a lot. A keeper can't loose you 15 points in a season. It's unacceptable. Ppl bash him including ed because it is hurting us very very bad.
08 Feb 2016 17:48:19
Oh yea I wasn't defending mignolets form, he needs to be replaced no question. Maybe he was a bad example.
My point was fans are very much on the players backs at the moment and it must be effecting them.
Again in not saying the players should be praised regardless, my point was its all contributing to what is becoming an increasingly uncomfortable situation at anfield.
08 Feb 2016 17:49:06
Mignolet had cost us points by making basic mistakes that you would expect any keeper of reasonable ability to stop. He's let in the most goals from the least amount of shots faced. The stats and the facts prove he's a poor keeper. Not once since he has been here has he proved that he is anything more than a sub par keepers.
08 Feb 2016 18:06:19
I understand about negativity. But if we won against Sunderland or manu or arsenal or Norwich (earlier) or palace this season we would not so worried and bitching about our players day in day out. All games i can think of we lost/ drew because mignolet and dare I say we were the better team in these games. If we were in a CL spot no one would be ripping players. Yeah the ticket fiasco would be there but I dunno it won't be this negative. Unfortunately we can't help it because we only have ward. We hvnt been playing bad and just when it starts coming together a horrendous showing by migs screws it up for us. That destroys the morale of the fans and the players. Firmino couldn't believe he drew the game against Sunderland. His face was like what the f just happened. I single out mignolet. We need to drop him, at least for some games to get the pressure off him.
08 Feb 2016 18:11:59
The fans protests aren't necessarily at the owners, but that of the state of football in this country as a whole.
It's out of frustration as our beautiful game is dying.
IThis should be a collective protest throughout the country, and by the looks of it, other supporter clubs will continue the march to ticket fairness.
08 Feb 2016 18:15:39
I personally think ward should see out the season. If he makes a mistake it will be no worse then what migs is currently doing. Plus being an academy player will see ward get full support, something an expense signing such as migs won't get.
08 Feb 2016 18:26:12
And flanno should start the only scouse. If he's fit he should start. Nothing against clyne but flanno is local fans adore him and he ain't a bad player either. Adds to the atmosphere. We can see more of Smith, brannagan and tex too . I mean in epl this season is dead for us. Why not try some players that can help us in future and give us more accurate info on where we stand by the summer. This is a big summer, we have to be spot on with our outs and ins. And everyone knows that.
08 Feb 2016 18:28:12
My personal thoughts on the ticket pricing Davey is protests are correct but walking out of a match is wrong. If your there support your team for 90.
Protest before or after etc.
I would love all the fans of every club to come together and for one week nobody attends the games. Empty stadiums across the country would hit the premier league harder then anything else.
08 Feb 2016 18:30:25
We need a squad shake up and hopefully with a manager who has a clear vision and previous proven sucess, this summer is again an important one.
We are a mid table team, have been since and during Hodgsons reign. Apart from one mega season under Rodgers thanks to two world class forwards and Stevie still on top, we've been really lucky not to finish 9th/ 10th in seasons around that.
We wasted maybe £300 million in bad buys. Our squad overall should be better, it is on paper full of internationals, I had expected more when Klopp joined, but I'm happy to say There have been improvements in some players, he has had bad injury issues and none are his players.
One fear I have, which is why I'm not so supportive of walk outs. FSG. We've seen owners, like at Villa who have simply given up on the club, fallen out of interest and are not spending any more money. Keep walking out, turning against them but wanting more millions spent and I could see them just sitting tight banking on Klopps record of bring through kids and buying no-names, turning them into top level players. There is enough money in football for them not to lose out really and not have to spend to improve us.
We will have to see how well Spurs, West Ham improve with new stadiums. Leicester if they finish top four. Chelsea and Utd won't have seasons like this for much longer. We could be left behind if our owners take a disliking to walkouts and protests.
{Ed001's Note - Randy Lerner gave up on Villa because he got divorced and lost most of his money. Nothing to do with falling out of love with the club at all. It was purely his own personal issues that saw the plug pulled.}
08 Feb 2016 18:37:58
Agree with a lot of that carragold23.
08 Feb 2016 18:40:00
@23 Carra : Completely agree with you dude. Looks like things are going from bad to worse. I would tell people that this is the time to stay united and support the team but people don't understand the damage they do when they continuasly bash players and management on twitter and other internet forums.
It creates a feeling of discontentment which just seeps through everywhere.
P. S a special mention to those people who have led the campaign to bash Sturridge for not being fit. Now people are surprised when they hear that he wants to leave. It is not Sturridge's fault that he is injured or that the replacement - Benteke is out of form and confidence.
However I think if we string together some wins, things will turn back to normal. Otherwise get ready for horrid times ahead.
08 Feb 2016 18:40:37
Have you seen how much attention it has received Carra?
It has worked.
Other supporter groups are following suit, so it isn't necessarily a Liverpool thing.
This protest has legs mate, and I say this sincerely, that I hope that all supporters of other clubs do the same.
I guarantee that we will see many other clubs doing the same, and Liverpool supporters can hold their heads held high that they have had the bottle to instigate the movement in favour of football.
The stay behind lot though, will reap the rewards if it does change, which I can't help feel frustrated about.
Oh yeah, it has been raised in parliament also by the Southport MP.
Not effective?
I'm not sure about that.
08 Feb 2016 19:13:40
I never said it wasn't Effective Dave just not the way I would do things. However I have no problem with those that did I see 100% where they re coming from.
At the end of the day we all want the same thing and I am glad it has raised a response.