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01 Mar 2017 08:14:05
Dream summer for me:

Kalidou Koulibaly £40m : powerful centre back to take control ( where we need improving the most IMO) would cost a bit but worth it to sort out the defensive shambles at LFC

Saed Kolasinac free: perfect first choice left back for free. We desperately need an actual left back. Milner done ok but not his natural position

Mahmoud Dahoud £12m ish (contract running down) : perfect centre mid to change defence to attack in the blink of an eye. Good energy levels and experience at
a young age (I'd replace Emre Can with him) I'd sit him as the two deeper midfielder with hendo in a 4-2-3-1

Julian Brandt £25m: young winger who's played quite a few games already, hailed as one of the best German players coming through. Would be a good option on either wing and we are heavily linked with a move

Outs: Moreno. Can. Klavan. Lucas. Sturridge. And a few of the loan players coming back like Kent markovic bogdan etc.

Ings will be back and like a new signing hopefully, Gomez will be fitter, Ojo and Wilson be more ready Stewart can hopefully get a few more games. Karius hopefully shows a little development between now and the end of the season And hopefully some of the players learn from the mistakes this season it hasn't been all bad let's remember that.

YNWA.

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01 Mar 2017 09:53:45
Only problem mate we need a 20+ goal scorer. You look at the top 7

Chelsea has Costa
Spurs has Kane
Arsenal has Sanchez
United have zaltan
City have aguero
Everton have Lukaku

We been playing firmino there not saying he's bad but will he get you 20 goals a season.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has not been lacking goals, the main problem has been letting them in.}

01 Mar 2017 09:54:38
For me it would have to be:

Begovic/ Handanovic
Gaya/ chilwell/ bertrand/ ake/ fuchs
2 of martinez/ tah/ dann
Douglas costa
Aubameyang

Outs: Mignolet, lovren, klavan, moreno, can, lucas, sturridge

All of which will not ever happen in a million years🙃.

01 Mar 2017 10:00:02
Best buying fifa 18 ann!

Beware tho its only coming on the ps4 and xbox one. So if you haven't got one there should be some good deals on argos 😊.

01 Mar 2017 10:17:52
I don't care which names come or go. What I want to see is strategy.
Everyone knows our problems. They are not new, they are common to several managerial regimes now. Our opponents know our weaknesses, the media knows our weaknesses and fans know our weaknesses.
I want them addressed. It does not have to wait for the summer transfer window.
Our problems :
Goalkeepers - weak on crosses
Defenders : No leaders. No tactical/ positional awareness. Weak on crosses. Seemingly no strategy for addressing specific strengths of opponents. Set pieces - poor on marking, poor on second ball.
Midfield : Too soft, no steel. Unable to stop opponents. Often too slow in possession. Poor at retaining possession.
Attack : lack of movement against a well drilled defence. Lack of versatility.
In general: poor attitude against well organised weaker opponents.

All these things can be improved without signing more players and signing more players in a poorly organised, poorly motivated team will not solve the problems.

{Ed002's Note - It is the tactics that need to change - I get it that you don't like any of the players and want them all changed, that is common whoever is playing for the club, but you seem blind to the most obvious shortcoming - the same tactics being used by the manager who can only have his team play one way.}

01 Mar 2017 10:17:52
A Good summer would be :

GK - Handonovic of Inter. Probably available experienced and cheapest. Plus the return of Ward.

LB - not sure of exact players just as long as left footed.

CB - good in the air, quick minded, robust and sturdy.
Keane of Burnley.

DM - Romeou of Southampton?

Winger - Zaha/ Brandt/ or the winger at Dortmund.

CF - Aubaminyang (spelling)

6 in paid for by Sturridge, Sahko, Moreno, Markovich, Mignolet, Lucas, Flanagan, and fifty million.

01 Mar 2017 11:12:02
This is fantasy football stuff there is no way, without significant outgoings, we are going to be bringing in 6 top class players and, even with outgoings, I would doubt we have the financial means to complete 6 top class signings. I'll be happy with 2 top class improvements to the defence - so long as they improve it (which won't be hard to be fair) i'd be happy with that.

01 Mar 2017 12:21:39
If these are people's expectations they'll be very disapointed.

Id go for:

GK - let Karius and Ward battle it out and give them a genuine opportunity to claim the place

lb - sead kolsinac (free)

cb - promote joe gomez to actual first team and ease him in over a season whilst phasing lovren out

rb - ricardo pereria

lw - julian brandt

st - a really tough one and should only be addressed if sturridge goes. even then, I don't see a need to displace firmino and origi will be another year developed.

that would not be an outrageous spend by any stretch and will could move on the people klopp no longer requires.

this list won't be a popular one because it's lacking those "marquee" names that people seem to crave. put thoughts of aubamayang out of your head, there's virtually zero chance of this.

01 Mar 2017 13:00:24
Ed002 I feel that you have misunderstood my post.
At no point do I say I hate all the players and want them replaced. I even said our problems can be addressed without signing new players and that new players won't necessarily solve our problems.
Tactics and strategy feature heavily in my post. New players do not.

{Ed002's Note - Aside from moaning about the hoalkeepers, defenders, midfield and forwards? I guess you think the substitutes are all OK.}

01 Mar 2017 13:27:32
I reckon he's got a point ed. I think tactics don't address the main problem. The team doesn't have enough fighters. It's something Liverpool have neglected to consider for a long time. If Liverpool are sent out with the right tactics they could still be submissive and roll over when the opponent that is coming 15th gives it to them.

{Ed002's Note - So you replace the coach with one who is more tactically aware.}

01 Mar 2017 13:30:40
I'm not moaning about individuals, I'm pointing out where we need to develop. You don't solve set piece defending by buying new players, you organise the incumbents.

01 Mar 2017 13:41:19
Ed002 has a point here Ron. But I do agree with parts of what you're saying. I think the criticism has to be on Klopp at this point. Folding under pressure, not turning up for the small teams, all those arguments are nonsense. We thrive under pressure (facing big teams), we dominate possession and put in huge work rates pressing against smaller sides, but they just sit back and patiently wait to hit us on the break.

You should always stick to your guns. Pressing is clearly Klopp's philosophy, and it should be present in all games because of that. However, there are modifications that need to be made against each opponent. And I haven't seen a difference in the setup/ tactics against anyone we have played this season, except maybe on the road to the big teams (we sit back a little more) . Why not try interchanging some players or making substitutions sooner? What we are doing now clearly isn't working.

01 Mar 2017 14:29:28
I don't think there's any merit in apportioning blame but ultimately the manager is responsible for results.

I just want to see us moving forward. I think buying players can sometimes be counter productive. We need to see the team becoming more organised at set pieces or break downs in play.

01 Mar 2017 15:53:56
............abuse removed - one less brain dead moron on the site...........

01 Mar 2017 18:32:52
Inges will be lucky if he is match fit by Christmas. He has had 2 separate serious knee injuries.

He is a determined lad and apparently a great professional but the nature of the injuries it's quite possibly he will struggle at the top level.

I hope I'm wrong as he seems a perfect fit for Our style of play and I wish him all the luck in the world because he has handled a devastating situation with class.

01 Mar 2017 18:35:31
Will certainly remain as dream. Koulibaly wouldn't happen in million years. Napoli are nut case and they turned down a huge offer from champions Chelsea last summer. They are regularly playing CL.

Kolasinac is a good player who will have plenty of suitors for his signature. We will have to pay top wages and top signing on fee for him to consider ( Again I don't think
Klopp would fancy )

The other two could happen if we make an attempt. Without CL I don't see Brandt joining us nor Dahoud.

01 Mar 2017 19:04:09
Koulibaly, Kolasinac and Brandt I agree with. Not sure Dahoyd is what we need. Think we need a more combative midfielder. Someone who can go box to box but add some aggression to our play.

Hector Herrera, William Carvalho, Arturo Vidal, Wanyama etc. Dahoud is small, technical player. We have loads of players like that in the senior team, on loan and in the academy.

We don't have anyone who can take a game by the scruff and bully teams though. We lack a physical presence.

01 Mar 2017 18:51:17
You could fix a lot of issues by tweaking your set up and tactics certainly not everything as we lack severely in quality. But for a top 4 finish this team is more than enough. I can't see Klopp changing his set up other than running day and night from one end to other.

It's kinda baffles me as Chelsea who has the worse CB's in their history has kept more clean sheet than us. A make shift WB at right followed by a failed winger on the right.

01 Mar 2017 19:55:35
I agree with you in part, Harry. As much as the system and tactics need adapting, the poor attitude we have vs lesser teams is alarming. If not, how do you explain that 5 of our losses are vs bottom feeders in the PL? That is prolly a tactical problem in small part BUT an attitude problem more importantly, IMO. Even Klopp has seen this vs Hull and LC games, a complete lack of desire to fight.

However, we seem to NEVER have this problem vs the big boys cos NONE of them can beat us since Klopp came to us. So I maintain that it is an attitude problem more than a tactical problem and Klopp needs to fix this too as he is in charge of all forms of preparation including mental and psychological.







 

 

 
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