11 Apr 2017 03:30:01
hey ed001, what's the play regards sessengon and the transfer ban. I feel like I read you saying that the ban means we couldn't sign him? but can't find it in search.
{Ed001's Note - I never said anything about it. We can't sign players for the academy but I very much doubt we would want him for the academy. He is a better left back than most in English football and would walk into our first team right now. As he will be 17 soon, we can sign him on a professional, rather than academy contract. If I remember rightly, he turns 17 in May.}
11 Apr 2017 08:31:49
He is very young and would need a season or two to get used to the pace of the PL. I see it as a pointless signing. We need a first team player. An experienced left back.
11 Apr 2017 09:31:05
Age has nothing to do with it Harry, if he's good enough then get him in. These players have got to start their premier league careers somewhere and he's going to be a great player. I'd rather he comes in next season, he's going to make some mistakes but it's part of the learning.
11 Apr 2017 09:26:20
Ed001 do you expect us to sign him in the summer?
{Ed001's Note - I certainly expect us to try, and, despite Harry's mumblings, the lad is more than ready for the Prem's pace. He is showing his ignorance of English football there, or he would know the Championship is faster and more physical than the Prem.}
11 Apr 2017 10:37:21
I worry about chucking a lad so young straight into the first team, one mistake and our "fans" will rip him to shreds like Karius.
11 Apr 2017 10:38:22
cool thanks ed. maybe it was ed002? anywho that is helpful as now I understand the ban better!
I thought that we couldn't sign any player in an academy or had been in academy for past 18 months.
I do hope we get him, has a cracking future and looks like he has the temperament to step right into the prem league for us in the way Gomez did for that brief spell before he go injured.
{Ed001's Note - I don't know, I will have to reread the ruling, as you have a point on that last bit. Having reread it, I am still unsure: will be prohibited from registering any academy players who have been registered with a Premier League or EFL club in the preceding 18 months. That could be interpreted to mean we cannot sign anyone who was in an academy within the last 18 months. Though I took it to mean that we just could not register them for our academy, the wording is vague enough to be uncertain.}
11 Apr 2017 11:34:52
Disagree Mikey, the lad has experience of playing regularly in England and left back is a position where you are not in the spotlight as much as keeper.
Good enough = old enough.
11 Apr 2017 10:59:03
Hmm k hopefully some gurus can help us! But often these things can tested in court if its vague enough aye? My sense is that it is the former and we simply can't sign academy players to any level of our club. I can't imagine why the ruling would allow us to sign an academy player on a technicality to the first team if that wasnt the intention. But ye, maybe ed02 knows for sure!?
{Ed002's Note - It would not go to court - if Liverpool continue to ignore the rules and the regulations there will be further fines, longer bans, points deductions etc.. All of the "good enough" is "old enough" is nonsense as the fans don't understand the difference between being professional and not - they don't understand the rules surrounding children and they certainly don't understand the responsibilities the club has. Under 18 they have to attend school and they are limited by hours how much they can train each week. And there are a bunch of other rules that need to be adhered to as well. Signing on a schoolboy who can only thrain part time to play as a first team player in the premier league is stupidity itself. Is Klopp that stupid? Another interested side has a proposal which includes a player as part of the deal and a two year loan back to Fulham. Another wants him for the junior sides and another will look to a loan abroad and monitor the situation. Doing anything else could be detrimental to his career.}
11 Apr 2017 13:00:55
Ed 2 said we could sign him because it would be a pro contract.
{Ed002's Note - He can be signed to a professional contract but he is still a child and will need to be dealt with accordingly - restricted training, going to school etc..}
11 Apr 2017 15:48:36
Ron, you are right BUT Mikey still has a point. Patience is becoming extinct among many of our fan base and if you think they won't get on the kid's back when he struggles (COS HE WIIL), then you are fooling yourself. Karius is a good example and that should NEVER be ignored.
11 Apr 2017 16:11:03
Ed 002, I thought students could leave school after the age of 16? Or has Sessegnon made the choice to continue, meaning the club have to work around his schooling?
Cheers.
{Ed002's Note - All players must receive education until the age of 18 and they are restrited as I have explained.}
11 Apr 2017 17:13:34
Just like we bought the second best keeper from bundesleague ( Young and Learning ) . My opinion. I wouldn't drop a penny on anymore kids. We have enough with us.
11 Apr 2017 18:31:41
There's plenty of youngsters break into teams and play regularly and have to train as well as receive an education. Why couldn't Sessignon do it at LFC? Is there no under 18's on professional contracts?
11 Apr 2017 20:29:09
I don't think he will struggle, but what do I know?
Milner and him share the left back slot. Who better to mentor him than Milner, a player who also played premier league football as a kid and has had a great career?
Just an opinion, as sensible or as daft as anyone else 🤠.
14 Apr 2017 01:52:58
ah I see see, thanks eds.
so we could sign sessengon to a pro contract and have him in the first team, but that could be detrimental to his development ye? i tend to agree with that.
if we were to sign him and develop him the right way - probably then only really viable option for us that wouldn't breach our ban would be to send him back to fulham? I struggle to see how sending a 18 yr old abroad would be good for him, especially a british lad?
{Ed002's Note - As I have explained on another thread, Fulham would be reluctant to do business with Liverpool and I think this is a player you can set aside for the time being.}