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14 Apr 2017 10:52:00
Eds01/ 02 would just like to hear your opinion on Pepe Reina? I grew watching him play for us, and had his Jersey nearly every year, I thought he was unbelievable for us winning the golden glove and breaking clean sheet records for us. I know he had a decline but wasn't that around the time Achterberg became GK Coach? I was shocked the way he was pushed out of the club. Do you think he should have stayed?

{Ed001's Note - he was never the same after Xavi Valero left, but he was not pushed out of the club at all. He forced his way out.}

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14 Apr 2017 14:20:39
More reason the goalkeeping coaching needs to be looked at John Achterburg simply hasn't done the Job. He may have ed but was that not after he was told he would be number two after Mignolet was signed? can't blame him for leaving as he is to good to sit on the bench for any team. Have we looked at goalkeeping coaches ed to replace or help John Achterburg?

{Ed001's Note - no. Mignolet was signed to replace him because he was forcing his way out and had been trying to leave for a few seasons.

No we haven't for some unknown reason.}

14 Apr 2017 14:22:07
While on the subject of goalkeepers ed can I ask you would you rather see Karius given another chance next season or would you rather see we sign a new keeper?

{Ed001's Note - I would rather we had stuck with Karius and seen if he had what it takes. Now I have no idea what to think, as I have not seen enough of Karius to know if he is the answer or not long term.}

14 Apr 2017 14:36:49
Reina was set to go to Barcelona and made that clear to Liverpool at the time. The deal fell through when Valdes ended up staying at Barcelona. Everything was confirmed by Reina's father. Reina then in his open letter lied saying it was the clubs choice to move him on.

14 Apr 2017 16:54:58
Klopp did an Everest blunder dropping Karius for what? Taking the lime light? Utter bull. I know people will come protesting Klopp for this excellent move. Now they want to sell Migs ( Wgo actually has been good ) for someone who hasn't caught a ball in months. Instead of building his confidence we benched him and are now stuck big time and criticize fans for turning against the player.

14 Apr 2017 16:48:27
I don't think you can blame the likes on Reina and Torres for wanting to leave, we were winning absoutly nothing.

And still don't win anything.

14 Apr 2017 17:10:25
Karius was dropped after a series of blunders like the Bournemouth game. If Karius wasn't making blunders he wouldn't be in the limelight.
He was never ready to start in the first place. The premier league is not the place to learn your trade as a keeper.

{Ed001's Note - every keeper makes a series of blunders, even Lloris, Neuer and Buffon have done it. He was dropped because of a social media campaign, not because of the way he was playing.}

14 Apr 2017 17:49:29
Ed1, do you think Klopp's handling of the situation is likely to see us go and sign another no.1 this summer or will he reinstate Karius?

{Ed001's Note - I expect Karius to be reinstated, as things stand.}

14 Apr 2017 17:59:47
Spot on, Ed. Karius made a couple of mistakes. So what? Which GK or player hasn't? Show me a player who's never made a mistake and I show you a player who has never played the game.

Nonsense, Ron. Lloris, De Gea and many other top GK's learnt by making mistakes, not by being dropped and sold after playing 10 games. Had they been sold, would they be as good as they are now? Sometimes you have to take a chance on a kid and Klopp has taken a chance on him so we should support him instead of waiting for him to fail so "we can be right".

Karius was dropped cos fans like you got on his back cos "he was losing us the PL" nonsense, a title run we were NEVER in due to the obvious holes in the team.

The fans took sides with a failed manager manc instead of getting a backbone and supporting your own player at his lowest point. Klopp had to act cos it was getting out of hand and hysterical. The kid is talented as his perf vs Saints in the Cup shows BUT I guess he fluked that one.

{Ed001's Note - I don't remember Ron ever doing that mate, I think that is a bit harsh.}

14 Apr 2017 18:19:00
Thanks for the reply Ed, and happy Easter.

{Ed001's Note - very welcome RN and happy Easter to you too.}

14 Apr 2017 18:56:39
Well Ron, We haven't won the league dropping Karius. I would have agreed for a couple of games to shake up his low confidence but not months of warming the bench role.

14 Apr 2017 18:52:48
Well that means Karius has to start this all over again. Excellent job from the coaching staff!

14 Apr 2017 19:05:57
I don't see the point in buying unless you are upgrading your current options. Neither of our keepers have had the benefit of an organised stable back four to play behind and let's be honest neither of Pickford or Ruffier are better than what we have, so maybe improving our defence would be the better option.

14 Apr 2017 18:46:03
Twitter fans went ballistic and one of the reasons why Klopp decided to to drop Karius along with the witch hunt from media.

Agree with Ed001, Karius will be back between the sticks start of next season.

{Ed025's Note - i really hope so max.. :)

14 Apr 2017 19:12:35
Were do you expect Everton to finish next season without Lukaku Ed025 :-)

{Ed025's Note - first of course max!, well thats how i feel at the start of every season before reality strikes, rom has done a great job for us but like all clubs we just move on, im sure liverpool fans said the same about rush then aldo came along, then fowler and torres took the mantle, he went and suarez bites his way to become the hero, there are a lot of good strikers out there mate and its getting one that fits which is the hard thing, we now have the financial clout to compete with the big boys but without CL football it does limit your options, one thing i will say is that i dont want anyone at everton who is not totally committed to the cause so if he goes then good luck to him, no one player is bigger than the club and i feel we have the set up to challenge at the very top next season.. but i say that every year.. :)

14 apr 2017 19:51:01
the financial clout to compete with the big boys? so why have you not tied lukaku down yet mate?

ed002 said that everton have messed the lukaku deal up and ed002 has also made mentioned that your owner is not going to bankroll everton, especially when the financial turn over of the club ain't there.

nothing wrong with being positive though ;-)

{Ed025's Note - its not about the money with rom max (which is amazing) he wants CL football and medals, its true that moshiri cant bankroll the club but there are ways and means to get around FFP as city, united and chelski have proven, expect everton to be one of the big hitters when the window opens mate..

14 Apr 2017 19:58:50
10 games 12 goals against 3 clean sheets in the league is not as bad as the media made it seem. Especially when we shipped in four against bournemouth thanks to a leaky defence and the midfield leaving them hanging.

14 Apr 2017 20:20:10
Ed025, UTD and Chelsea have not had to get around FFP. UTD have no problem repaying their debt each season as they are one of the highest earning clubs in the world. Chelsea have found a good way of managing their expenditure too.

City and their lucrative stadium (family) deal got away with day light robbery. They won't be able to pull off such deals again though.

Unless Everton are earning what Liverpool does then there is no way they will be outspending us. Hot cup of tea?

{Ed025's Note - all the big clubs are doing it max, and im sure that when liverpool become a big club again then they will be playing the same game mate.. :)

14 Apr 2017 20:25:19
Cheers ed.
I have never conceded the title so to say he was losing us the premier league is not my style.
We were top of the league at the turn of the year, how can we "never have been in the running"?

14 Apr 2017 20:33:46
If Liverpool are winning trophies then there is no need to get around FFP mate.

Everton are so far behind financially, your owner will have to come up with a some good ideas. Your plans for a new stadium could be a stepping stone but Everton are mountains behind the big players financially mate. New stadium will likely see you guys having to tighten up the pockets.

{Ed025's Note - we are very stable financially max and have been very frugal over the years which has held us back, moshiri is full of ideas mate and you will see them coming to the fore in the near future..

14 Apr 2017 23:14:55
I think Karius must be a hypnotist in his spare time. He's certainly got so many on here under his spell.

If you want facts, Mignolet started the season in goal because Karius couldn't tell the difference between a team mate's head and the ball and broke his wrist. We started well and at one point topped the League.

Then Klopp brought Karius in and, in the blink of an eye, we were 8 points behind. Most if those points were lost because of mistakes by Karius, and you all want him to start as number 1 next season!

I agree that there was a media witch hunt, but only because he made so many mistakes it was becoming embarrassing.

Somebody on an earlier post talked of him in the same breath as Loris, Neuer and De Gea. To quote John Henry, 'What have you been smoking? '

Actually, I'm not writing Karius off and agree he might well come good at some point. But I think we will lose a hell of a lot of points in the process. However, what I can't understand is the blind loyalty to a player who has shown nothing yet. The same people who were eagerly awaiting Mignolet to make just one mistake.

Let's face it, Klopp dropped Karius because he could see Top 4 waving goodbye.

15 Apr 2017 10:14:36
I'd hope karius is daily having high balls kicked up in to the air for him while origi and matip use every trick in the book to put him off while working hard with our gk coaches studying the differences between his game in Germany and keepers like lloris here. If that was the case while telling him this is all for next season and the five after while you nail down the keeper role and make yourself a legend then it could be a masterstroke if we also manage to make top 4 this season. However deep down I doubt this is what is happening but a man can hope!

15 Apr 2017 10:26:07
I for one hope Moshiri plans come to pass mate . Nothing better for the buzz around the city when the two clubs are competing at the top of the table and in Europe . I would love for Liverpool to be winning the league with Everton 2nd obviously as I am a red but always have a bit of Everton in my heart for the grandad. Best of luck for the rest of the season.

15 Apr 2017 22:25:37
Ron our boys need our support especially Karius . Let's back them too to help hilt . Screw the sceptics and naysayers. Imn this life it is easy to choose the safe root . I at the expense of beige branded and idiot i stand shoulder to shoulder with our warriors.







 

 

 
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