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23 Apr 2017 18:20:35
What are people's opinions on why LFC struggle against not as skilled sides ( not calling them lesser) . Everyone wants Marquee signings, but I feel we need grinders for these type of games. To me it's like a hockey team. Your skilled players play, but sometimes the 3rd and 4th lines can be your best players. They can help break down teams. I honestly don't know ow the answer though
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23 Apr 2017 18:28:53
Ask Klopp. He should be the best to answer. He is paid to win such matches. This guy is failing us big time! It's time to start asking question about klopp ability. We have been giving too much excuses for him.

23 Apr 2017 18:34:32
Not in Europe and still struggling for top 4.
I've been a firm Klopp supporter, but this isn't acceptable.

23 Apr 2017 18:34:51
Couldn't agree more.

23 Apr 2017 18:35:43
Well, When team sits back and make it compact we struggle to find space between the lines and relies heavily on Coutinho dropping into the middle to pick those povkets. Our CM's who ever played today has no creativity in splitting a tight defense and can't stop a counter attack as well.

Moreover we play very narrow which makes easier for the opposition to defend against. It's over crowded in the 6 yard box. we have no genuine width and our full backs can't cross nor hit the byline stretching their backline. It's all through Phil and through the middle.

23 Apr 2017 18:38:16
Because some of our defenders are ill suited to play 1v1 half/ full counters. Lovren is rash, Klavan slow, both lacking in decision making. Milner not quick enough and not 100% LB instincts. Should have been adressed in January, paying the price v Palace.

Can't avoid plugging that gap in the summer, hopefully we'll have CL to help attract players.

23 Apr 2017 18:44:11
You might want to start with our defense and lovren never mind up top. They offered Nothing but a hopeful ball down the side with lovren flat footed and asleep. Then the second goal. Lovren again just shambolic before the corner was conceded. The corner itself terrible.

I don't care what anyone says. We need another centre back. Klavan and lovren should be moved on in the summer. Whether this happens? If it doesn't and we're looking at the same back line next season Klopp may well be packing his bags as a consequence. You can't win and challenge for anything with Clyne, lovren and Mignolwt in your back line.

23 Apr 2017 18:48:38
Coaches win games and we saw Conte do that yesterday. It's s fact that klopp has been nothing but plain average. It hurts to hear Liverpool fans continue giving excuses for non performance. What sort of patience is that. For how long are we going to live with this klopp factor. We owe klopp nothing! He is paid to do a good job and I am sorry the gentleman at the moment is not doing that. It's high time we started asking questions whether he is the one to lead Liverpool. He came to us with top pedigree but we not seeing that now. He seems very confused! One more season and if there we are not able to mount any serious challenge then he should be SACKED!

23 Apr 2017 18:57:54
Hardly Klopp's fault if the players are woeful which too many were today. Ball turned over too easily too often. Can let Benteke wander past him for second. Lovren caught out badly then Clyne caught at back (again) for first. Origi's contribution was pretty much getting in the way and wanting half an hour for every touch. Final ball in from flanks was poor. Liverpool had plenty of chances to draw or win that game just didn't have the ability to deliver a final ball or finish. Struggling to hold onto top 4 place is the level of ability of the current squad.

23 Apr 2017 19:00:33
It's simple it's the tactics being used, we have been using Zonal Marking for years now and it hasn't worked, we should just play man marking as the players just seem lost in the box for every set piece. Me like everyone can appreciate Klopp wants to play very attacking football and it can be brilliant to watch against the teams who want to attack us but against the lesser teams having so many people forward forces the oposition to sit back and leave us no space to play. I love Klopp and what he stands for but his tactics will never win us the title it's just a fact. I can understand somewhat why he doesn't make substitutions as the team hasn't much depth and we have injurys but that is the clubs fault for not investing in more players in the summer.

23 Apr 2017 19:26:15
everyone says are attack is great but we lack a great striker. origi can be good on his day but was god awful today. we do better against less denfensive teams because everyone in our team is able to contribute more easily because the opposing team doesn't require expertise to break down. we need to focus on finding a great sriker and defender this summer. I was happy when we bought sakho. we finally splashed cash on a quality defender for once. now we've exiled him. This back 3 ain't working ethier. we don't have the players for it.

23 Apr 2017 19:29:36
Bad result and performance,
really disappointing.

I think we lack leaders in the team.

Our champions league aspirations have taken a knock but are by no means gone.

Come on the reds.

23 Apr 2017 20:09:52
Good honest assessment Dermot385 .

23 Apr 2017 20:10:00
Mogreen, don't cook Sunday roast next weekend, it takes too long. Have a pot noodle instead; it should satisfy your need for instant gratification.

23 Apr 2017 21:41:50
We lack a striker.

Trade all of firminos running for 20 goals.

And no its not up to the other players.

Hes up there he's the main scorer, the others just add to it.

Expect 10 each from adam, phil and saido and they all delievered.

But firminos got to be hitting 20.

If he did we would be in a much betyer position.

He can do it, he was ruthless at the start of the season.

He bottled one today but kane up front 20 goals. Works hard. Links play does everything and scores.

Theyve finished 2nd last year and potentially the same or better this year.

For me if you want work rate its between adam and rob in the 10 role behind say an aubameyang.

23 Apr 2017 22:17:15
Super, we can't get Auba, Kane or who ever so mentioning him makes no sense. We lead the PL in goals so not sure what you are talking about needing a striker whereas every man and his dog, knows our issues lie elsewhere.

Spot on Al, and Dermot, our defenders are not good 1v1 defenders so we are always in trouble with an attacker running at them one on one. This is where we need to improve. We also need better quality from our FB's cos they simply lack en product.

As for today, the players who have been great for us for the past 7 games (5 wins and 2 draws), did not show up today and that is disappointing. Can, Wij, Origi, Firmino and Lovren were poor today. We had only one shot on target and a high level of poor decision making in the final third killed us today. CP were NO threat to us and we shut down Zaha totally and Benteke for the most part BUT two individual mistakes = 2 goals and now we are in more than a tight fight for CL. Nothing is decided yet and a win today would NOT have decided anything either. We need to go back to the training ground, figure things out n come back swinging vs Watford.



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