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03 May 2017 12:24:40
Hi Eds.
If we finish in top 4 do you think this is the good season for us. Starting of the season we were title contenders but after new year we were start losing points. I think because of injuries to our players cost us. We have good depth in squad like Chelsea and city we were still there.
Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - No I don't see it as a good season.}

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03 May 2017 12:44:17
Champions League qualification was crucial this season, if we can start next season the same way we did this season we could win it next season so long as we improve the squad as a whole. Need better players who can push each other in most positions. It really excites me because if it wasnt for our bad period in January when we had so many players missing we could of challenged.

03 May 2017 13:27:50
Yes it's a good season. Last season we finished 8th a long way off anything. This season finishing forth or third would be an over achievement. At the start of the season it was expected chelsea, city and united would fight for the title and spurs, arsenal and Liverpool (because of the advantage of no Europe) would fight it out for 4. We started the season with the termoil of no left back, our number 1 GK injured, new signings to bed in. We had a great first few months until even more injuries and AFCON. That was 2 months of all our key players being out for different reasons: mane, coutinho, matip, hendo, sturidge, lallana. In this period players like woodburn, ojo, Randell, wilson, Taa, Stewart, klavan were all relyed upon a little too often leading to poor results in the league and cups for much of Christmas and January/ February. After all that we will hopefully win the battle for 4th which was our highest hope for the season back in august and most fans and pundits had written us off. Only 1 of 8 sky sports pundits predicted us to finish in the top 4 (ex manager tommo) and he was ridiculed for his blantent bias. Top 4 is a good season for us after a transfer window with no net spend. No January buys. Lots of impact injuries (not muscle / fatigue injuries) . The only disappointments are the cup runs which I've delt with were caused by squad issues. 3 games to go and we're fighting for 3rd. Successful no, there's nothing to fill the cabinets but hopefully we can flood the bank balance and unlock our higher band sponsorship deals.

03 May 2017 13:33:50
I would say that with Top 4, this would be a satisfactory season, trying to view things from the owners perspective (which I think Ed002 is trying to do in her comments, dispassionate informed observer rather than passionate fan as Ed001 and most of us are) .

A "good" season would have been a cup and still challenging come the last few games of the season.

An "excellent" season would be winning the league.

"Awesome" may include the league and one or more cups.

Would this rough guide be a fair approximation of the owners views, Ed002?

{Ed002's Note - The owners expectation is that Liverpool should be winning the league - that is why they have spent considerable money and that is what Klopp promised.}

03 May 2017 14:01:31
Achieving the absolute minimum expected standard is not a good season, it's just that - the minimum point before we could call it another bad season.

03 May 2017 14:03:59
Hey ed, a little side question, if we manage to secure Champions League, would you expect Coutinho to stay, even though Barcelona are pushing for him?

{Ed002's Note - I would doubt it would make any difference.}

03 May 2017 14:25:07
If he did go then ed would you expect us to push for a direct replacement for him, or are the players we are looking at (Brandt) already seen as a replacement? Surely loosing a key player would need a replacement of equal ability?

{Ed002's Note - It would make space in the side for Brandt who otherwise would probably not make the move - so it would make him a possibility. But as I have said, Liverpool will look to keep Coutinho.}

03 May 2017 14:49:12
Cheers ed. Appreciate and respect your information and update, its not always the news we want to hear but would rather you be honest mate. Thanks again.

03 May 2017 14:57:57
If Chelsea win there game in hand we are 15 points off 1st place having been in the driving seat for the title at Christmas.

From that perspective it has been a bad season. Not to mention than Klopp has promised the owners the league title. We got knocked out of the EFL cup in an embarrassing fashion failing to score over 2 legs, and knocked out of the FA cup by a Championship team.

However if at the start of the season I'd been offered a top 4 place, I'd have taken it but probably would've said 'top 4 and a cup'.

Considering we had no CL we should've done better really. Live and learn.

03 May 2017 15:01:02
We live and die in mediocrity that top 4 has become an achievement. No guarantee we will maintain the position next season. Dumped out from all possible competitions as early as the draw were out. Still fighting hard to secure the CL spot inspite of playing just one match a week.

A massive 15 points off from the 1st place and 3 above the 4th place. Resigned of loosing the best player. I can't believe but what's so proud of?

03 May 2017 15:03:26
Coutinho is the best passer in the team and much more than just a wide player. Brandt is not in his class and without Couts we will struggle creating clear cut chances. We have none bar him to dictate the game and pick those little pockets in the space. I have no hopes on Hendo, Can and Wiji. Mark my words we will struggle if we end up selling him!

03 May 2017 15:18:16
Well we need to get use to life without PC chaps im affraid. Sounds like the writing is on the wall. I agree what's been said about replacing him although Brandt is more direct so maybe him and Mane down the wings with Firmino up top it might be a better option.

03 May 2017 16:32:35
Sorry Harry, dumped out of the competitions as early as the draws were out? We were in the semi final of the league cup and in the driving seat for the title at the halfway point - we went out of 1/ 3 of the competitions early! Granted we haven't got the intended result in any of them but don't exaggerate, it's hardly helpful or practical.

03 May 2017 16:32:38
On the basis of the last 10 years it's a good season, but we should be aiming to be top 4 consistently and winning cups (very good season) and then every 2-3 years winning the league or CL (a fantastic season)

03 May 2017 16:49:17
A good season would have included a cup win and possibly 2nd in the league, especially with no European football to cope with!

03 May 2017 16:51:03
If Coutinho needs to be moved on to make room for Brandt, I will no thank you to Brandt.

{Ed002's Note - That dependency does not exist - Liverpool will not be looking to sell Coutinho to fit in JB.}

03 May 2017 16:52:19
"But he promised the owners the league and didn't keep his promise to the poor owners! ". who gives a f#@k about the owners. Any reasonable supporter would have jumped on top 4 at the start of the season.

03 May 2017 17:45:42
Good work Emre 😎.

03 May 2017 18:44:21
Top 4 is all that can be expected with this team and the lack of money the owners have given Klopp. Fsg need to wake up and stop this nonsense of hanging on every promise made. These are astute buisness men, right? Yet they act so naive that they think Klopp is a miricle worker, turning water into wine as such. These guys have no clue about football or the Premier League and coming out with "Klopp promised them the League" is just trying to shift the blame when it goes tits up.

03 May 2017 20:19:41
Just like City struggle without Silva with all their superstars on the pitch We will struggle without Coutinho. As soon as the clock tick to the 10 minute mark we see Couts slowly dropping into the midfield picking up the ball and carrying it forward and picking those pockets. He is such vital for us to function. One player with genuine class and top vision to find spaces between lines. There are hardly any like to like players. 18 managers deploy a player or a tactic to stop him as they know he is the supply of every attacks.

No wonder the whole world tips him to be the successor of the best Midfielder Iniesta!

We will have to convince him at any cost!

CL will mean nothing if we were to loose Phil!

03 May 2017 20:34:33
Not being funny Emre, but if I told my boss at work I could set up a production line using the equipment we already had, and then after 6 months went to him and said 'sorry boss, I got it all wrong and need £250k of investment. We've let the paying customers down' I would most likely lose my job.

I am not saying Klopp should be sacked by the way. Football is an almost unique industry in that there are so many variables to factor in that it is much harder to make commitments you can definitely stick to.

However, the fact is Klopp got it very wrong and in a season without European football to contend with, we should've been challenging for the title or at least a domestic cup.

I love Klopp and think he will take us back to glory, but stop giving him a free ride. It seems people either want him sacked, or think he is a god. The truth is somewhere in between!

03 May 2017 21:51:07
I don't think he's a God, but were lucky to have him. by the way, what attitude should a new manager come into the club with? should he say and believe he can win the league or should he just accept its impossible and not try to push towards it?

{Ed002's Note - All excuses for the manager are accepted.}

04 May 2017 00:06:52
If you thought we would win the PL with the team we currently have, the injuries, lack of decent depth and inconsistencies that currently plague this team, then that is your fault for believing in fairy dust. If Klopp said he would win the PL to the owners then he too is just as deluded. We were NEVER in the driver's seat for the title under any circumstances. We were only top of the table ONCE all season so how were we in the driver's seat?

Remember, this is the same team that our own fans thought would be lucky to make 5th YET many on here want to slate it for not winning the league. That is just illogical. That makes no sense. We have had a very good season and if we make 3rd, I will be happy with it.

Acting as if Klopp failed cos he didn't win the league is just nonsense as NOBODY has won the PL for us so why is Klopp suddenly being judged on that standard? I suggest people just pipe down and realize who and what we are and start dreaming with their eyes open. Klopp is not a miracle worker and cannot manufacture a PL title from this squad with as many wholes in it as a slice of swiss cheese. That is asking for too much, even for Klopp.

04 May 2017 13:40:53
I'm pleased that we have been competing for the title for half a season with a solid 1st 11. Pleased that we have dominated the games with the other top 6 clubs. Pleased to have made progress from last season and pleased that we haven't wasted money in the transfer market on unsuitable players.

I'm disappointed our challenge faded with injuries, disappointed in the cup performances and disappointed that we can't seem to break down organised but less talented defences. If we get top 4 it will be an 'at least' season. Not good, not bad, but offering hope for squad building and further progression.







 

 

 
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