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03 Jul 2017 22:46:47
I can't believe that I have again come to the site to see my beloved club has made another illegal approach for a player. I am disgusted in their behaviour and the way we are acting.

If we were to get a ban I would not be surprised but would actually back it, as controversial as this may sound. Maybe we would finally learn from it.

We are Liverpool and don't need to act in this way. I don't care about other clubs, just Lfc. It's wrong and we have become a joke to act in this fashion.

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03 Jul 2017 23:13:16
Absolutely bang on, so refreshing to read an opinion on here free from bias and childish remarks like "everybody does it".

LFC and particularly Klopp have embarrassed us all. I can forgive and forget but it has to cease, and I mean yesterday!

04 Jul 2017 00:02:42
Let's keep the daggers sheathed for now, until it is proven that it's been done a second consecutive time, shall we?

04 Jul 2017 00:02:55
Every club does it.

I think you're both being a bit dramatic.

04 Jul 2017 00:16:10
So our 3 big targets so far and 3 illegal approaches?

That's an impressive record 😣.

04 Jul 2017 04:20:30
Totally agree with Ra here.

IF we have broken the rules again, I am truly ashamed of my club.

But let's not walk around in sack cloth and ashes just yet.

04 Jul 2017 04:50:02
First there is no evidence that we have broken the rule again this time. Second from what I read in the past especially in autobiographies I personally believe it is true every club does that and we just need to be smarter and not get caught.

{Ed001's Note - no, we need to stop doing it. There is no need and it will cost us. I can't believe the moronic chants of 'everyone does it so we should too'. Shows how sick this world is, how stupid and pathetically lacking in morals you are when you talk this crap. For starters, not every club does it at all, most follow the rules, but of course a couple of (auto)biographies (which are not even written by the person concerned in almost every case and use plenty of artistic license by the author to make the story interesting) is a great way to decide what goes on.

If we had followed the rules, we would have had no issues signing VVD, as Saints had agreed to sell him this summer, he wanted to join us (before we tapped him up we were his choice), and neither Chelsea nor Man City were willing to go anywhere near the asking price. What we did, by cheating, was allow Saints to hold onto him or make us pay a hell of a lot more to get him. Win, win for them, as they can say they were willing to abide by their agreement with him but they couldn't sell him to us because of our actions.

Again with Salah, we had to agree to pay extra to push the deal through as Roma were upset over our actions. Again we had no need to do so, as the player was very keen to join us regardless of the tapping up. He had been very keen to join us the first time around but the club messed up then too.

Tapping up does not help us in any way. It sullies our reputation, makes clubs increase their asking price to us and makes it more difficult for deals to be done. What is wrong with abiding by the rules that so many people can't do so?}

04 Jul 2017 05:05:20
I'm sure if we'd broken that many rules by tapping up the amount of times it gets said on here we'd be banned from doing transfers a while ago don't believe everything on here.

{Ed001's Note - or perhaps it is just a very difficult thing to prove? Because that is the only reason we are not banned, no matter what you believe or not. Your belief is absolutely irrelevant.}

04 Jul 2017 05:46:04
I understand that we shouldn't do it and that just because others probably do it too doesn't excuse us. However, I can't understand the moral uproar on this. Isn't it just another case of football operating in a different world to the rest of us? This kind of recruitment (albeit quite often from a third party) goes on all the time? Headhunting and such.

{Ed001's Note - it is because Liverpool have a reputation to maintain, a reputation which is being destroyed and making business more difficult for us to conduct in future.}

04 Jul 2017 06:25:21
Dear Ed001 I'm very concerned with the issues you raised above. Isn't there someone or some way we can advise the club on the way this tapping up has ruined our reputation in the transfer market. Secondly, how much influence would the supporters have on how the club conducts business. Usually we are important. The general feeling on this forum is that tapping up is not good. We need this message to be put across to the club. Are you able to help us there?

{Ed001's Note - the club employs people to watch fans forums across the web, they will be aware of what is said. Unfortunately the running of the club is still as amateur as in the days when it was all run out of a room above a pub. Hopefully the new man will change that, but it will take him time to do so. You can't just change it over night.}

04 Jul 2017 07:30:57
If you can't believe the uproar about the issue, then I fear for you. This tapping up crap is really starting to get on my last nerves. I mean, how much is enough? What part of "tapping up is illegal" do these incompetent people at the helm, don't understand? It will get to a stage that clubs will simply not deal with us anymore and we can say good bye to signing players as our rep is shot right now. Good Grief! Sort it out, LFC.

04 Jul 2017 07:48:19
To me it's embarrassing. I remember when we used to carry out our business quietly and respectfully. Anyone else miss Peter Robinson? That man knew the business and didn't act like a d*ck.

04 Jul 2017 07:48:19
I'll make myself more clear. I do understand the uproar and that what we are doing is completely wrong within the context of football. I was just making a point that this kind of thing goes on every day in the real world. We need to stop it immediately though. Ed is right. Our reputation is taking a beating.

04 Jul 2017 08:25:39
It is indeed embarrassing, there's not much to discuss about it really, its wrong and it's damaging us as a football club, these owners need to start caring about the image of our club because right now we're in the danger zone this whole saga has made us look utterly stupid. Should we get punished for it (a ban) then we deserve it, there's no 2 ways about it. I understand defending the club to a certain degree but not with this, how can some of you defend such actions we've taken? its pathetic.

{Ed002's Note - The owners care very much about the image of the club.}

04 Jul 2017 10:00:33
With respect ed2 it doesn't look that way to me. You know more then me which is pretty evident, who would you say is to blame for all of this nonsense?

{Ed002's Note - For Christ sake move on. The owners are the ones issuing apologies all of the time. The owners did not tap up a 12 year old boy, ruining his career and plunging his parents in to debt. The owners did not brief the press to unsettle players at other clubs. The owners didn't make illegal approaches to van Djik, Brandt and Keita. It has been done to death.}

04 Jul 2017 10:46:30
In one word, Klopp.

04 Jul 2017 14:46:56
There is still a large portion of supporters outside this site who are ok with any kind of approaches. They have the same excuses as ". Everyone does it. "



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