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31 Jul 2017 20:03:32
With the talks of the safe standing at anfield, what would the estimated max safe capacity become if it were to happen? Or is it unknown yet.


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31 Jul 2017 20:13:26
Who really cared what the capacity would be? What an absolute insult to the memories of the 96. I'm truly lost for words.

{Ed025's Note - im with you we really want to go down that road?..

31 Jul 2017 20:20:57
That's the point. It shouldn't change or it will be stupidly dangerous.

All that should happen is metal rails get put in front of the rows and the seat allocation remains the same, but when the game is on you hav3 someth7ng to lean on So you can stand and not fall and cause any sort of crushing issues.

Absolutely idiotic if they increase stadium capacities.

31 Jul 2017 20:22:28
Why would capacity increase? The proposed safe standing is based on rail standing so seats would just be flipped up. I'm guessing capacity would still be based on the number of seats.

31 Jul 2017 20:36:29
I just cannot understand it Ed025. I don't know how people can forget so easily. I wasn't even born until '94 but I have closely followed the fight for justice and listened to so many different interviews of survivors and families of the victims etc.

I really don't know how to explain what I think and feel about this alleged vote. I'm not even sure I'm angry. It's more like disappointment.

{Ed025's Note - my brother was at the game mate and i remember it vividly, i think its a terrible idea myself MK and im sure it would bring back some horrific memories to supporters who were there or lost loved ones, im very surprised liverpool would even consider it to be honest..

31 Jul 2017 20:55:28
Mk, an insult is the home fans who continue to stand at games.

Many attended Hillsbrough too, but continue to do so.

Times have changed and I see nothing wrong with it, and before you all pass comment, please be mindful none of you know me, and therefore do not know my past or association with people/ places.

Lets get on with it.

31 Jul 2017 21:03:35
There is no argument to support terracing at games.
The "atmosphere" argument is total balony.

Liverpool 4-3 Newcastle was al seater
Liverpool 1-0 Chelsea CL semi was all seater
Attaturk was all seater.
There are many other examples.

Give me one good reason to bring back terracing.

31 Jul 2017 21:19:06
As I said before, if there even is a 1% increase that someone may get hurt or worse, it should not be done. Especially seeing as the only getting hurt will be the fans, who are also the ones they are trying to get more money from.

31 Jul 2017 21:21:33
Standing at a game was banned for the reason of the 96 fans who lost their lives and the families it devastated. Anyone that stands should be banned, all seating is for the safety of fans not just the few.


{Ed025's Note - im with you baz..

31 Jul 2017 21:45:00
Speaking as someone who didn't have any relatives at hillsborough, and doesn't know anyone who has been affected by Hillsborough, there's obviously certain things I don't fully understand but if anything I think it gives me a more neutral point of view, and i do not mean to upset anyone or offend anyone with what I'm about to say but.

If the Hillsborough stadium was seated, and the police still tried to force everybody into that one stand, I don't understand how the exact same thing wouldn't have happened if there was seats? Surely it was the cage at the front of the stand that was a problem?

31 Jul 2017 22:23:00
If it was seated they wouldn't have sent people into that stand after it got full.

31 Jul 2017 22:28:46
There is abosluteley no reason why standing is more dangerous than sitting. I was attendimg atleast 50 games that were standing and atmosphere created is amazing. it was all safe. some tragedies sometimes can't be avoided and police was reaponsible not standing. Anfield is turning into cinema lately and klopp even critisized it one or two times.

31 Jul 2017 22:56:48
MK you're 23? just finished uni!? I see why you have time for those novels. :p.

31 Jul 2017 23:03:55
It was the fences at Hillsborough people were caged in.

31 Jul 2017 23:23:35
You don't need to stand to create an atmosphere.

It's a myth which has been repeatedly dispelled.

31 Jul 2017 23:32:48
I voted for safe standing. Not for the atmosphere but simply to make it safer for the people currently standing on the kop and the others who have no choice to stand or not see the game. Safe standing is nothing like standing was back in the day, it's ok to say if you stand you should be banned but that simply will never happen and you all know it. Standing should be an option if done safely, and as clubs around Europe have shown us, it is safe. Let's not compare railed seating like at Celtic to the pens of old, they're completely different.

31 Jul 2017 23:49:09
Just wondering if everyone commenting on this thread has seen what safe standing actually is? It's not terracing.

Everyone still has a seat allocated and that is your spot. There is a railing in front of your seat so when the match is on you stand and lean on it. Single rows of people all with allocated spots and railings between each row.

01 Aug 2017 00:32:38
Terracing is a series of concrete steps for people to stand on.
It is terracing.

Seriously, what is the argument for standing. Can anyone actually give a good reason?
Making it safer for fools who choose to stand is not an argument. It is safest not to stand - simple.

01 Aug 2017 04:58:32
Has anyone been in the kop recently? Half of the season ticket holders these days would struggle to stand for more than 5 mins, let alone a whole match.
But that of course is beyond the point, Liverpool FC should never entertain this idea at all, ever, out of respect for the 96. ✊.

01 Aug 2017 05:59:09
Out of interest Mickey, of those season ticket holders who. couldn't stand for 5 mins ( :p ) are they also not contributing to a fervent match day atmosphere? I always wondered if the atmosphere was more about age and energy rather than day trippers etc etc.

01 Aug 2017 07:03:11
Think people who are younger are desensitized if that makes sense, it's a world were horrendous incidents are daily and reported on the news. Nothing shocks people anymore.

As time has gone by the horrific incident of the 96 has become less horrific to the younger generation.

Most who voted probably weren't even born and don't remember how it felt as a fan.

My dad was went and police knocked to inform us he had died. There was slot of confusion and he was home a few hours later. For me safe standing is not wanted or needed it's a recipe for disaster as you always need to plan for human error.

01 Aug 2017 09:16:28
i think tho that like most times following a disaster, the key aspects are what we learn to make it better. perhaps better is to not have "safe" standing? perhaps not.



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