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03 Aug 2017 08:58:35
I've not had a chance to see any of the pre season games so I can't comment on Robertson first hand but I'm reading a lot of mixed opinions on him. The so called positive ones aren't really that positive if I'm reading between the lines correctly. And I'm sorry but all the moreno hailing after one game I'm not buying into either. So apart from a couple of the young lads maybe being ready for a chance at rb what the hell have we done to address our year on year problem area? I'm normally full of optimism at this point ( false hope) . But really concerned so far. Yes the window isn't closed but I've not even heard a murmour of a vvd alternative so far. We really do need a leader at the back there. I really hope plan a isn't just go outscore everyone again, as exciting as it is it's not going to work enough for silverware. I love klopp and would not swap him, love the lads too but can see next season having the same problems as we've had for a while now. Fourth is going to be a lot harder to get this year too. Which makes a more exciting race for it but I'm no neutral. Might come across as a doom merchant here . I'm optomistic with everything in front of defence and even mignolet now. He started to sway my opinion of him towards the end of last season. Maybe he could step up and be that leader at the back? Can you train a none leader into a leader? I don't know. hope so.

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03 Aug 2017 09:05:36
Robertson is just feeling his way in, give him time!

03 Aug 2017 09:18:14
I think he's played less than 90 mins in total. How on earth there can be mixed opinions I do not know. The kid is settling at a new club it will take time. Personally I thought he has been pretty good anyway.

03 Aug 2017 09:21:06
I will fencey, again, I can't comment on him as I've not seen him yet it the central defence I can comment on though. I was starting to rate sahko before his ban actually. I thought he was looking better, could there be any revival there? He must have really pissed klopp of behind the scenes. Also have I got false memories of lovren and clyne at saints. I'm remembering a far more assertive lovren and a better attacking clyne with a good few goals. Am I imagining this?

03 Aug 2017 09:21:44
He has only just moved to a major club, he is probably just being cautious so as not to make a glaring mistake. One thing I did notice, his close ball control when dribbling is excellent, one of those players whom the ball seems to stick to their feet.

03 Aug 2017 09:25:49
Ok let's not make this just about Robertson then.

03 Aug 2017 09:26:59
Is our defence good enough. no it's not.

03 Aug 2017 09:51:57
So good of you to pronounce our defence is still not good enough after they conceded 3 goals in 6 games that you haven't seen any of.

I've seen four of the 6 games and while I'm not claiming any wonders, they've looked less prone to making horrendous mistakes than last season and to have improved their positioning.

03 Aug 2017 09:52:34
Ffs he's hardly kicked a ball and already there's negative comments.

03 Aug 2017 10:01:59
Agree with Stuie, his close ball control is great! He loves to overlap and boy can he cross a ball! This i what we need at left back to break the defensive teams down. We need to all give him time! The contrast between him and Milner against Athletico was night and day, Milner constantly cut back on his right foot and passed back, kills the attack down the left every time, so predictable.

03 Aug 2017 10:05:40
Robertson has been at the club what 10 days? Great of you to judge him so quick! He is 23, stepped up another level, at a new club and just started training with the squad let's talk about him after a full season or maybe 2.

03 Aug 2017 10:17:20
Only 3 goals in the friendlies. oh must be a top draw defence all of a sudden then eh. Pull your head out of the sand.

03 Aug 2017 10:20:11
I pay good money to support my club and have every right to moan. The only reason I don't watch them live anymore is because I don't live in the same country anymore but I pay in other ways. My money goes into the club therefore I have as much right to an opinion even if I've not watched these " massive " friendlies.

03 Aug 2017 10:47:47
Personally I'm expecting the defence to improve this season even if we don't get VVD. Matip has a full season under his belt in the Prem and I expect him to be a bit more settled this season. Having an actual LB will improve the defence in many ways. Hopefully TAA will play more meaning Clyne won't be in the team which will be an improvement. And we saw a colossal improvement in Mignolet the back end of last season and that will put a bit more confidence into our defenders.

03 Aug 2017 10:54:33
Manners you pay nothing compared to FSG, if you claim to be a supporter you would realize what our restrictions are financially. We cannot compete by spending whatever Man City have spent on their defense but I bet our Goals Against is similar to Man City next season.

03 Aug 2017 11:00:25
Bla! Bla! Bla! Bla! Yada! Yada! Yada! Yada! But hey. you pay "good money". So yah, knock yourself out my guy.

03 Aug 2017 12:54:03
There seems to be this weird assumption that our defenders from last season will play at exactly the same level this coming season, and unless we buy players we can't improve. Our goalkeeper situation has massively improved without buying anyone, TAA's pre season performances show he could sort the Clyne problem, let's wait and see if we get a centre back or not. But as people have said, Matip and Lovren have now had a season playing together, I'm sure they will have improved from last year. Leave it to Klopp to see if that improvement is good enough for them to be our 1st choice pair.

I'm not saying we don't need a VVD or whoever, a top class centre back could take us up a level, but I don't doubt our current defenders haven't improved from last year.

03 Aug 2017 14:00:15
Robertson played 45 mins last night! Mixed reviews my a*se how can you judge him on that? He actually did well last night if your interested (as you haven't even seen a game) put some descent deliveries in and showed his attacking ability with a descent shot from outside the box. but he shouldn't even be judged as a signing yet, what's wrong with people? I think some
People are just so bored they need to write rubbish for the sake of doing something!

03 Aug 2017 14:07:30
Why is the original poster forming an opinion on something to his own admission knows zero about. hasn't seen Robertson or Moreno play yet he's 'really concerned'. Seems like it.

03 Aug 2017 15:22:20
I have seen enough of Robertson in a Liverpool shirt, to know that he will soon be a 1st teamer, I am impressed by him, he just like Salah, has clearly settled in really well, they are both left footers, adding a lot more balance to our team, I would definitely play Robbo from day one .



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