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05 Aug 2017 07:31:46
There seems to be a lot of hysteria regarding Coutinho potentially being sold, don't get me wrong I don't want him to go but as brilliant as he can be he is still massively inconsistent and can vanish for weeks at a time. If he were to go it would be for a ridiculous price and as long as that money was reinvested into the squad I wouldn't have a problem with it. Ultimately I don't think Coutinho would be sold without Klopp's consent, we have a world class manager it's about time we started trusting his judgement.

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05 Aug 2017 07:56:16
I think if we want to challenge for the title this season we have to keep Coutinho.

If we are happy with top 4 then sell him, buy Meyer and then maybe we can challenge in the 18/ 19 season once we have gone through the transition period; again.

You are right though. The hysteria is excessive. Coutinho is critical to our immediate aspirations, but we lost Suarez who was 3 times the player, and yet here we are just 3 seasons on talking about a title challenge.

05 Aug 2017 08:28:47
Mate Coutinho was one of our top performers last season, scored the most goals and had the most assists, how is that inconsistent? The lad has improved year on year and is now coming into his prime - selling him is a terrible idea and the logic of 'well he can be replaced' is insane - who could we buy that would be an adequate replacement? Name players because I'd be interested to know who can fill that void.

05 Aug 2017 08:45:44
Seano - Coutinho is key obviously, and probably more to his sympathizers point, he is so key that when he is off invariably the team is off. So I can appreciate the feeling that if he goes then so doers all hope! But he is a step or two away from being the truly world class star some are already announcing him as. Th inconsistency is about how he disappears throughout the season and in some games. Ya rarely got that feeling with Suarez who, if Coutinho leaves now, was twice / thrice the player.

05 Aug 2017 09:06:17
Strengthening the defence is more of a concern.

05 Aug 2017 08:49:39
I think Coutinho was fantastic at times last season and believe the period he wasn't at his best you can excuse, as he was coming back from a lay off and not fully fit.
Any club would be weakened by the sale of such a talent but I am one who believes that you should always move on a player who's head as been turned by a offer from a club he wishes to play for.
The sum we should expect to recieve will be imo more than he's worth. I just hope we strengthen the first team.
I remember selling Rush and using the money to buy Barnes, Beardsley and Houghton. 3 players who went straight into the first team and made us one of the most exciting teams i have witnessed.
Ed02 has called this possible move for a while so I am not at all shocked by the situation.
Good luck to him wherever he plays next season, especially if he stays. let's get together and support the team YNWA.

05 Aug 2017 08:50:25
Just because the Spanish media are making noises does not mean Barcelona will sign Coutinho.

We have to keep our best players in order to progress. Coutinho is one of those players and it has been made perfectly clear that he ain't for sale.

Barca have the task now to replace Neymar and cannot see Coutinho being that player anyway.

Coutinho signed a new long term contract last season and he ain't pushing for a move at this point so we hold all the cards. People need to calm down.

05 Aug 2017 09:14:04
I understand what you are saying Faith but I respectfully disagree. Suarez was an inconsistent performer when he first joined us - hard working no doubt - but inconsistent, certainly in terms of his scoring rate. But he improved year on year (like Coutinho) and was already a few years older and wiser when joining us.

I know that, ultimately, Coutinho will leave for Spain but I hope he sticks around for another couple of years at least - he is a unique player who is arguably world class and a player I feel we would really struggle to replace. I don't even think the money is relevent in this situation - no matter what Barcelona would be prepared to pay it wouldn't help us find a player as good as Coutinho - if we have serious title aspirations then we cannot lose our best players.

05 Aug 2017 09:08:04
IF coutinho goes which I hope he doesn't what if we replace him with a world class striker who gets 30+ goals a season and drop bobby back into the number 10 role? I personally think that's his best position?

{Ed025's Note - i might have mentioned that before mate..

05 Aug 2017 09:24:47
I definitely don't disagree Seano, and actually is something I've been saying for a long time. Many fans are praising Coutinho as if he is currently the version I'd expect of him in 2019. But he is not. in the inevitability that he is going, this year or the next, we shouldn't let ourselves be hamstrung by the sale of any player. Let alone a player who more than likely is going to leave us before he becomes the truly world class player we think he is.

{Ed025's Note - hes excellent but your one player is bigger than the club..

05 Aug 2017 09:46:22
I think the problem we have if coutinho goes is the same problem Barcelona are going to have purchasing him from us, everyone knows you have money so the ridiculous fees that are around this window will go up again knowing you've just made £120 million say from coutinho, I like coutinho and thinks he's special on his day but he isn't world class yet and he's not £120 million but because we know they have neymar money the price goes up, I just don't see a replacement and a reasonable price who will come in and do it and plus they'll have a massive fee over their heads that can break players.

05 Aug 2017 10:53:50
Seano is spot on. Couts is our most important and influential player, end of. No replacement in the short term will be able to do the things or have the creative influence he has on our team that has been built over the time he's been here. Not Siguurdsson, Meyer, Rafinha or whoever will do that for us. Let us stop deluding ourselves with this "he is not world class or that he is not consistent" or with whatever fee we will get for him. He had the most goals and assists for us last season. He played ill vs Stoke and pulled us out of a sticky spot along with Firmino. He bossed games vs Arsenal, WH, Watford and was critical for us in the run-in in many other games. That is consistent enough for me and in no way should he be sold or we will regret, Big Time.

05 Aug 2017 12:45:19
And in other games he was not. No one is arguing that he isn't important for us. But if ya haven't read the tea leaves or listened to tthe eds, he wants to go. He is too nice to do a VVD or sterling on us. we all want him to stay. For me I want him to stay so he can become the truly world class star before he leaves. More than he is today. Maybe if he stays this season, then we'll see one season of it!



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