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05 Aug 2017 11:55:00
I know its a little but of a wild suggestion, but if Coutinho is going to Barcelona to replace Iniesta, why not ask for Iniesta as part of the deal? He is still world class and probably second only to Modric in world football as a playmaker. Salah can replace Coutinho's goals, but he cannot control the game like Coutinho. Iniesta can control the game without breaking into a jog, he still presses with intelligence, and he would bring an unrivalled winning mentality. No player in the history of the game can match his technical ability or vision.

He is only 33 (same age Alonso joined Bayern at) which means he has at least 3 years left. Who better for Woodburn to learn from if we want him to be the long term magician in our midfield?

Anyway, it is just a thought. I'd have us down for the title if we bagged Iniesta though. He is probably in the top 5 players in the world even today. No idea if he'd leave Barcelona though. He might fancy a wind down on his career playing second fiddle to younger players in sunny Spain.

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05 Aug 2017 12:10:44
Iniesta is past his best and there is no way he will last the distance in a frantic premier league campaign. I'd take Isco or Kovacic as Coutinho's replacement (if he leaves which imo is unlikely) . Both are creative midfielder who can start attacks from the deep with fantastic passing range and long range shooting.

05 Aug 2017 12:11:43
You'll probably be slagged for it MK but it's not the craziest thing I've heard. Still thing he'll stay though.

05 Aug 2017 12:27:41
Not for me im afraid. Iniesta was a hell of a player but i think his shelf life is nearing an end.

05 Aug 2017 12:35:02
IB, past it?

You must be joking me. When has Iniesta have relied on any kind of physical attribute?

I swear people just assume a player is finished once they are into their late 20's or 30's. This is part of the reason our club wins nothing. We keep signing teenagers and early 20's players, then sell them in their mid 20's to replace them with more youngsters!

Look at the Chelsea team that won the league last season. The youngest player in their first team was Hazard at 25 years old and they had players like Terry, Fabregas and Willian on the bench. Experience wins titles. The last time we won a trophy we had Maxi, Bellamy, Kuyt, Carragher and Gerrard in their 30's. Now, we have Milner and the team bottles it in every major final and all the games we are expected to win.

We should be looking at proven winners. If we had the chance tomorrow to sign Timo Werner or Diego Costa, our club would go for Werner because he has more potential and then sell him when he gets to his prime, before repeating the same process and continuing to win nothing. All about sell on value. If we took Costa I'd probably fire us to silverware. Sure he'd be sold at a loss after about 3 years but what is the point of competing if you don't want to win anything?

Iniesta is 33, not 40. He would be perfect for us. We have a great team but are just lacking that little bit of winning mentality. That experience to just get over the line. If you doubt that, re watch the two finals we lost under Klopp and take a look at last seasons league table at Christmas. We bottle it because we call anyone with experience past it! Sorry for the rant, but I am really passionate about the mental side of the game and it's importance.

05 Aug 2017 12:36:28
He's too old now mate, he can probably play a couple more years but not at the level we would want, at Liverpool he would be replacing a first team player and be expected to play and influence each game, if he stays at Barcelona he will have a bit part role that would suit him and his aging legs.

05 Aug 2017 12:44:55
Iniesta is past it and wouldn't be able to adjust to the physical nature of the premier league, same as Rakitic, their legs are completely gone and given the way Klopp likes his teams to play, they don't fit in, since they rarely do any tackling or pressing. We are far from a great team, great teams win leagues and trophies, not finish trophyless and in fourth place.

05 Aug 2017 13:09:07
Iniesta rarely tackles or presses? Okay now I know you have probably never watched him to at least paid attention to him, Frankly.

Mikey, why would he have to play every game for us? We have Grujic, Ejaria, Woodburn and more who would all be able to cover. Be that rotating from game to game, or just coming on as a sub at the hour mark.

I've been shocked on here in the past, but this has blown me away. I cannot believe people would reject Iniesta because he is 33. Last time we even got close to the title we had 34 year old Gerrard in midfield, and 34 year old Toure at centre back. Never underestimate the influence an experienced/ composed head can have. When everyone else panics and then you see your experienced players just playing as though nothing is wrong, it rubs off on the younger players. It is great to sign the best young talents but next season we are likely to have Milner out of the starting XI, Lucas sold, and our only other veteran is Klavan who is 4th choice centre back at best. Our older players (Milner, Klavan, Mignolet and Lallana) all lack composure and leadership qualities. We are fortunate Henderson has a head beyond his years, but we will struggle if his heel injury reoccurs.

Fair enough though lads. I put it out there as a suggestion and everyone is entitled to an opinion. Personally I'd drive to Spain to pick up Iniesta though.

05 Aug 2017 13:11:09
To prove I'm not always against you MK, Gary Mac is a perfect example of what I think you're trying to say. Experienced player came in, helped nurture some players and played a vital part in our treble season.

Experience is vital on the pitch.

05 Aug 2017 14:10:46
Exactly what I am getting at smplfc. By the way, I don't think you're deliberately against me buddy. Site would be boring if everyone agreed!

05 Aug 2017 14:43:14
You're talking from a purely footballing perspective, MKS. However, in this day and age of modern football, I'm dead sure team management considers a player's resale value before making a purchase. From that perspective alone, I'd say it's a no go because FSG has shown a track history of going for younger players that would be sold for a profit. We can argue about Iniesta's multitude or lack of skills from morning to night, and get no consensus. But the guys who sign the checks are frankly looking at it differently, and more concerned about the residual value of the player at the end of the contract.

05 Aug 2017 15:00:42
Unfortunately Ra, you a probably correct.

05 Aug 2017 18:26:45
Who will take the free kicks in the absence of Phil? Lol w couldn't even take corners properly! From the goal against Arsenal on the opening day to the one on the final day. Coutinho is much more than just a playmaker! Those who see a bright future after his departure would learn the hard way!
If there is a player similar to Coutinho, Barcelona wouldn't spend £100 mill in him! Only David Silva and Iniesta come alongside him!

05 Aug 2017 22:01:20
I think Iniesta has one of those footballing brains like the evergreen Italian Pirlo. sometimes you don't need to do all the running if you have a brain quicker than any oppositions legs. I think Inesta could give us a good few years (It will never happen though)



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