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13 Aug 2017 13:25:53
I couldn't care less about coutinho after yesterday's display.
It only brought up previous cracks that were blanketed over that klopp needs to address. Organisation and a lack of leaders. A jamie carragher or john terry in that back four yesterday and that game was won. The third goal conceded was the worst of the lot. Swap wijnaldims pathetic attempt to head the ball with a player like Roy Keane or even Gerrard and that ball goes back the way it came.
Chelsea and United dominated for years because they had leaders throughout especially in defence and midfield. Two areas we desperately need to add reinforcements. United had Keane, ferdinand, vidic neville etc. Chelsea had one of the greats in terry. They also had Cole, lampard, Drogba etc. We have absolutely noone. It's like a team of kids at times. Add to that they had both top class goalkeepers to help organise the backline.
For those that argue quality alone wins titles. Sorry but I recall arsenal running away with the league years back and when they were up against the wall they faded away.
We need to both add quality in key areas and leaders. I'm not sure we'll achieve either before the window closes nor is it realistic at this stage. Also mignolet remains a thorn in our own side. Karius or ward should be given a full season and their chance.

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13 Aug 2017 13:51:19
There aren't many Gerrard's, Carragher's, Terry's, Keane's, Feedinand's, Vidic's about.

Unless you can suggest some? What do you expect Klopp to do? You can't sign someone who is not available or doesn't want to come.

13 Aug 2017 14:01:31
Ron, we are looking at spending 70+ million on Van dijk who I'm not sure is the leader we need. I think we need to splash the cash on one of the great CBs out there, Koulibaly, Bonucci, Chiellini, Godin, Jerome Boateng. There's supposed to be plenty of cash available and potentially Coutinho money so go get a top class leader and CB and build from there. These guys would be great working with Gomez and TAA and the other U-23 defenders.
This is where we should be breaking the bank in my opinion.

13 Aug 2017 14:04:25
if VVD does join, I'd also bid for shawcross not popular i know, But people who are not afraid to head the ball and throw there weight around. A back three of VVD, MATIP, SHAWCROSS, with TAA and Robertson either side as wing backs. our defenders when they head a clarence seems to have little neck muscle to get distance.

13 Aug 2017 14:14:41
Nice names McGoveb. It'd be interesting for the Eds to rate our chances of getting them out of 10 for old times sake. I think there is ZERO chance of any of those regardless of money.

13 Aug 2017 14:22:46
Shawcross! 😂😂.

13 Aug 2017 14:23:39
Shawcross? Really? Are things really that bad?

13 Aug 2017 14:34:44
with our defence, yes things really are that bad.

13 Aug 2017 14:58:00
We need to show intent Ron. Players are employees like the rest of us. Make them an offer they find very hard to refuse. Getting a top CB could mean getting out of CL group which would cover a sizeable chunk of the fee and with our very good attacking could mean a sustainable challenge for the PL again covering a lot of the fee.
Every player has a price and every club a value for their players so as I said, show some intent.
30 million for Rio Ferdinand way back in the day is surely one of Fergusons best ever outlays.

13 Aug 2017 14:58:49
You wanted names Ron, there's your names.
Let's hear who you want as leaders.

13 Aug 2017 15:12:32
Van dijk the lad from Southampton i believe, not sure if anyone's heard of him would be a lovely fella to add. But also wouldn't mind gibson boy from Middlesbrough those 2 would be good signings I think and should add some leadership.

13 Aug 2017 15:33:12
5 years too late to bother with Shawcross. He is a shocking footballer, but a very good leader and was a good defender. A bit of a thug mind you, but we can hardly moan about being soft and then say we don't want any players with a nasty streak.

Teams used to fear going to Stoke under Pulis and Shawcross was a big part of that because whoever you put next to him would all of a sudden be like a wall especially at the Britannia. Teams haven't feared coming to Anfield for a decade so we are in no position to mock Shawcross. Not since Carragher and Hyypia have we had a solid and reliable centre back partnership.

13 Aug 2017 15:56:14
you know, that if someone told me that there would be a two month period, where we could buy and sell players, I would be so happy .

13 Aug 2017 15:59:43
Doc, could you please sort out our defence, give us whatever you think will heal our wounds, we need a good check up .

13 Aug 2017 16:38:53
I can't think of any players who are available who fit the numerous descriptions of leaders.

Let's sign Neuer, Kante Ronaldo and Mbappe if every player has their price.

They do, but they also have a choice of which club they wish to join and we're not on their radar.







 

 

 
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