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21 Aug 2017 11:22:27
Morning all

I went to the game on Saturday and although we got the 3 points its obvious we need a few improvements.

Defence was solid but was not tested at all due to Palace tactics of trying to spoil us for the entire game. Neiter Matip or Klavan got bullied by Benteke when Palace went long and generally we coped easily. Having said that we will be tested by better teams than Palace and need to improve personel in thr CB area. Full backs in Gomez and Robertson (MOTM) looked good and energetic. We have cover in TAA, Clyne also.

Midfield in Hendo Milner and Gini seem to play far to safe with square passes or backward passes to the defence, not one of the midfield 3 looked to drive forward like Phil does and imo this is an area we must get a player ir 2 in before August the 31st, Especially with Lallana out until Xmas and Phil likely moving on. If we fail to improve this area of the field then we will struggle to penetrate better teams. Emre offers a little more going forward than Hendo but he is mainly another one who sits in the centre and does not penetrate enough.

In the forward areas Firmino is wasted out wide when we accomadate Studge into the team, who I must say looks slow and generally not involved at all. Our best line up is what we saw later in the game when Salah came on with Mane on the left.

All in all a good 3 points but we need to improve with a CB and a CM imo, we are aware of who we are/ was after, I hope we have not left it to late in the window with just 2 weeks left.

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21 Aug 2017 11:33:14
I wouldn't mind playing Grujic for one of the CM's and see what he could offer. I agree we might need 2 CM's creative!

21 Aug 2017 11:59:35
Grujic might be an option although it seems Klopp doesn't trust him enough else surely he would be getting more game time. We definitely need 1 or 2 if Pipco is going.

21 Aug 2017 12:04:10
Yeah i know ed001 doesn't like stats all that much but it would be interesting to see how many touches matip and klavan had during the game? I thought the tempo was really slow during the game allowing palace to organise themselves easier and get in a solid shape. Sometimes I wonder why we keep possession for possession stats any maybe learn how to set traps, instead of klavan square ball to matip then to hendo jus to go back to klavan, because if we let the opposition have a bit of security and have the ball we could nick it off em and hit them on a quick counter before the get in there usual solid shape.

21 Aug 2017 12:12:50
TAA has to be the starting right back as we have no one who can hit a decent dead ball. That lad has a wand of a right foot.

21 Aug 2017 12:13:49
Grujic is worth a go. He is creative and has a bit of aggro in him so isn't a shrinking violet.

21 Aug 2017 12:31:57
Neither klavan or Matip got bullied by Benteke? What game was you watching? Matip was constantly being put on his ass by benteke (and we got free kicks for it) 😐.

21 Aug 2017 12:45:15
Red phil I watched the whole game pal from Anny road upper. Yes Matip was wrestled to the ground a few times and won free kicks from it but im talking about actual fairly challenged balls and winning the ball back off Benteke and others. Im not saying it was perfect but him and Klavan was in complete control other than the one chance Benteke had.

21 Aug 2017 13:42:17
Personally like Can there in midfield. A bit erratic but damn he takes on players and drive the ball forward.

21 Aug 2017 13:52:12
If Coutinho does leave and we sign Keita (hopefully) then our best midfield imo would be Can at the base, with Keita and lallana just ahead, leaving Gini and Hendo on bench.

21 Aug 2017 17:53:37
Red_Phil, you are simply wrong. Matip and Klavan smothered Benteke almost completely (tho he had the one chance he should have buried) . They both esp. Klavan, were excellent in the air vs Benteke who tried to bully Klavan and just couldn't. Hence, he started elbowing them in the face. When a striker starts doing that then you know he is being bullied. Matip falling on his arse means nothing. What would you do if a striker kept grappling and shoving you, flailing his arm and everything? Our defence was mlore than solid on Sat and kudos to them.

22 Aug 2017 14:01:55
MRM an BR
What I mean was he did bully them in a sense, because he ran out of options and got piddled off and went crazy on them. I didn’t say they didn’t do well to stop him because they did a fantastic job.
There was a few times I was thinking though Matip should be a bit stronger and try stand his ground.
There is a few teams who are very very physical in a Benteke way with more than just the 1 player doing it and sometimes they get away with it.







 

 

 
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