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06 Sep 2017 09:59:39
Think everyone needs to relax about Woodburn, the kid has done well and looks exciting, but so far this season we have seen him in pre season friendlies, and the even lower standard of international games against Austria and Moldova. Whilst I think we all regard him as very promising youngster we have to take the games and opposition into account. Even the Austrian defence was mostly players from the Austrian league along with Prodl and klavans replacement at Augsburg.

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06 Sep 2017 10:07:46
Spot on, Back! People need to just calm down and let the player grow at his own pace and stop bigging him up and putting pressure on him, for no reason.

06 Sep 2017 10:07:56
Austria won 9/ 10 qualifiers last time round and they have a good team with 1 world class player. They can't be under estimated.

06 Sep 2017 10:50:08
A goal of such individual brilliance cannot be unstated because of the opposition.
He plucked the ball out of the air, set himself and buried it. You want to put that on Austria? 😔.

06 Sep 2017 11:09:22
Put what on Austria JT? I said we should take opposition into account. The sides and players he has faced in recent games is far below premier league level. Everyday reading about how good he is and what quality he has for a youngster as if we've never had a promising kid before. The biggest challenge is continuing his development and breaking into the first team. Name our other promising kids who have made the transition into our first team? sterling? Ibe? Now remember the hyperbole laid at their feet as they came through as youngsters. We need to be realistic and let kids develop.

06 Sep 2017 11:25:23
What JT is saying is a moment of individual brilliance doesn't matter if it's against Australia or Germany as what he did has no bearing on the opposition. and I get where he's comin from, I agree with him. But I also agree that young players get over hyped at a young age in Britain.

06 Sep 2017 11:45:48
Welsh gets it. I think you diminish how achievement by saying it even in part comes down to the opponent.
If he dribbled past 6 Sunday league players, and scuffed the ball past an out of position goalkeeper, then fair enough, but his goal could have been scored against anyone.

Btw, I totally agree with keeping feet on the ground, he's a young lad and he's achieved nothing yet.

06 Sep 2017 11:47:35
I think that the opposition has a lot to do with it. If u seen a video of him doing that in a park in a Sunday league he wouldn't be lauded as coutinhos replacement and the next big thing would he? I also feel a lot of posters keep referring to Germany. Germany are an a machine internationally and would be confident that no Welsh player would score in a competitive match with Germany, they would be rolled over. And if Woodbury played poorly against Germany everyone here would be falling over themselves to say that he's only a kid and Germany are very strong internationally. So yes I feel the opposition plays a part when judging a players skill level and ability.

06 Sep 2017 11:53:01
That terrible Sterling and Ibe who sold for £65m yeah? 🙄.

06 Sep 2017 12:12:51
Would you have either sterling or ibe in our squad now MK? I care less about money the club spends or received as it's not mine. How have sterling and ibe done since they've left MK? But yeah hopefully we can develop Woodbury and then sell him at 20/ 21 as he's still developing that would be good.

06 Sep 2017 12:29:23
I'd definitely take back Sterling if he cut off that cancerous tumour he calls an agent.

06 Sep 2017 12:52:32
Would you take him back though? Think about where he fits in with the squad? Doesn't make first xI, and would only block the development of all of our world class youngsters. I wouldn't have him back and feels he offers nothing that we don't already have. What qualities of his would make you take him back to block the new coutinhos development? Or maybe we could sell Woodburn to B, mouth for 15mil and you'd be delighted?

06 Sep 2017 13:54:12
We'll aren't you quite the little devils advocate. Where'd we find you 😂

Sterling is City's top scorer so far this season. If he was so poor he wouldn't be getting game time in one of the strongest frontlines in Europe.

I'd have him in the team for sure. He played attacking midfield and striker for us before he left. I'd start him ahead of Lallana or Wijnaldum, behind Firmino.

Besides, nobody has said that Woodburn is world class. He is just a similar player to Coutinho and is impressing at every opportunity. I watched him in the flesh for the U21's last summer against MK Dons, and despite being 16 he was the best player on the pitch by an absolute mile, playing on the left wing that day. He is a special talent. There is nothing wrong with wanting him to get playing time to develop, or saying he has the potential to be a first team player. He's already scored his first goal for Liverpool and Wales before he's turned 18! Why are you downplaying his quality? Refusing to acknowledge achievements is almost as bad as overplaying them!

The only hyperbole I've seen surrounding him on here, is Harry saying he should be starting in midfield with Coutinho. That is just Harry though; hyperbole is his middle name. It's why we love him.

Just stop being so negative mate 😂 Woodburn is a cracking little player and we are allowed to be excited about his future, within reason! In all my time following Liverpool the main players who have been hyped up are Sterling, Suso, Ibe and Rossiter. Yeah so one or two of them failed to live up to expectation. It happens. Woodburn may follow Sterling's upward trajectory, or he might end up playing for a Pub team in Scotland like Rossiter. Who cares, just enjoy watching him develop and allow yourself to be excited! Life is fun!

{Ed001's Note - to be fair, Sterling is only playing because they couldn't sign Sanchez and he was available for transfer.}

06 Sep 2017 14:06:14
Doesnt matter. The kid has done well, he deserves the credit, matter of time until he's a Liverpool legend.

06 Sep 2017 14:14:19
Eds answer will suffice re sterling. Also remember when rossiter was the new gerrard? As you rightly say look at him now. I enjoy your posts MK but you constantly try to be deep and thoughtful with your posts but end up contradicting yourself. You made a post saying you were happy we didn't get Lemar so we could develop our own but in this post you'd be happy to have sterling back who would only block that same development. people getting wet with excitement for international games or friendlies are delusional. They cannot be compared in any way to perm or cl games. Also you'd have sterling in cm ahead of wiji? Come off it mate there's no more straws to be grasping at after that. Sterling as with ibe rosditer and all mentioned before are on downward trajectories right now but a couple of years fans on here have you thinking they are the next big thing.

06 Sep 2017 14:16:00
All the people saying we're getting ahead of ourselves about woodburn? You're acting like he plays for Brazil and beat San Marino, he plays for wales who are of a similar ability to Austria and changed the game! Rashford coat England a goal the other night and recovered very well, so it's okay for everyone to rim him (I'm not saying he snot talented this is NOT a dig at the lad) but we can't be excited over woodburn? The lad if mabaged correctly will be the next big British player I think, do I think people should pressure him? No but some people to thrive under pressure hopefully he's one of them, seems like it. Has a great head on those shoulders.

06 Sep 2017 14:16:29
I love your reckless use of stats too MK city paid 50mil for sterling and he's top scorer after a handful of games so he's doing well. They want rid and he still can't strike a shot cleanly. Watch the footy instead of reading the stats mate.

06 Sep 2017 14:19:28
It says a lot that they needed a player of Sanchez's calibre to upgrade on him though, Ed001! He is still a good player in my opinion. In retrospect it is probably good he left or i doubt we'd have signed Mane, who is a better player. Sterling is still one of the best players of his age group in the world though.

{Ed001's Note - that is not true. Read it again, he is playing because they didn't sign Sanchez and he was available for sale anyway. He can't kick a ball properly, Pep does not want him. The only reason they wanted a player of Sanchez's calibre is because that is the level of player they are trying to bring in. They did not just want to bring in another player they need to replace, they wanted to bring in a finished article, which Sterling is far from.}

06 Sep 2017 14:24:03
Just like sterling Ibe rossiter Phillips teabag yeah? No pressure then.

06 Sep 2017 15:26:17
Johnbarnes another on here falling over himself with contradictions. Could be the next big British player, doesn't feel like we should put pressure on him, hopefully he will thrive under pressure. Contradicting points one after the other here.

06 Sep 2017 16:09:52
In all my time following Liverpool the main players who have been hyped up are Sterling, Suso, Ibe and Rossiter.

The rest of that list is endless :

Pacheco - next Pele
Mellor - remember that goal against arsenal?
Partridge
Hobbs
Hammill - next next Pele
Bruna

The list is endless. TAA is the real deal. Woodburn, I wouldn't be so sure.

06 Sep 2017 17:39:27
I often like mks posts but I wouldn't play sterling in front of lallana. No way. Lallana is a super intelligent footballer sterling looks like a ballet dancer. I hope sterling struggles for games this year. Never forgiven him the traitor. Hope his career goes stale at city. Get the dubin out raheem!

06 Sep 2017 17:50:54
I agree with ed. Sterling isn't reliable enough when it comes to his final ball. He makes poor choices and isn't the most clinical finisher. If it wasn't city he had gone to the fee would never have been as high as £50.000.000. I may be biast but I'd have AOC over raheem all day. Ox is a bit faster and his decision making is better.

06 Sep 2017 18:38:22
Joker are you Canadian?

06 Sep 2017 21:31:54
That's uncanny Superred. Are you Derek Acorah?







 

 

 
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