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11 Sep 2017 13:27:15
Hi eds, what do you think of Ryan shawcross as answer to our defensive problems? Looks like good defender, not the Hummels ball playing type but solid in air and positionally good.

{Ed001's Note - he is slow, sluggish, violent and not good enough. He is an octupus who can get away with it at a smaller club but would be highlighted with us.}

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11 Sep 2017 13:54:49
Ed001, just imagine how Beautiful a Matip-Shawcross Octopia could look. Matip for the passing, Shawcross for killing strikers etc.

And 13ft1 combined!

{Ed001's Note - the very thought makes me feel sick.}

11 Sep 2017 14:23:50
We need a character more than a player at the back. A proper Captain material. Dissapointed with the academy stopped producing center backs. Our defense doesn't open their mouth! They can't head a normal football. We need two proper CB's. That's the bottom line!

11 Sep 2017 14:45:37
Its September Harry, the window is closed so harping on about what we need is pointless. You are not saying anything new which most fans don't already know. We can only hope that we do what we did last season, scoring plenty of goals, maybe not have the dip in form around January and very little injuries. Do that and we will be in the mix, hopefully.

11 Sep 2017 14:07:10
LMAO ed01.

11 Sep 2017 14:11:14
Serious question Ed, would you start Gomez in centre back?

I think i am at the point now where i would.

{Ed001's Note - I would have anyway before the season started mate. I think you have to take the risk of him making mistakes as he should learn from them, whereas we know Lovren, Klavan and Matip make mistakes without learning anything.}

11 Sep 2017 14:49:41
This is a joke right? Ryan Shawcross? The same lumbering thug that thinks taking down people and elbowing them is the purest art of defending?
Hardly the type of player Klopp would want. VVD is more Klopp's type.

11 Sep 2017 15:05:02
See i agree Ed. I think he is our best centre back already.

My only reservation is that i can already see Carragher, Shearer, Murphy and Neville etc using their fancy touch screens to somehow blame Gomez's inexperience for every goal we would concede! He'd get the same treatment Karius got until the fans turned on him 🙄 if it weren't for that i would have no doubts.

The bloody media witch hunt in this country is set up to ruin young careers though.

{Ed001's Note - I agree, even though the defence was making mistakes without him, the media would love to jump on him and blame him for everything.}

11 Sep 2017 15:06:15
Ed01, firstly, who would you pair Gomez with?

Secondly, who would you like us to buy as a new Centre Back (or two if you think we need two) .

{Ed001's Note - it would depend, I would work on him with Lovren though, as I think it might help him having the more physical presence alongside him. Might help Lovren to have to think about protecting Gomez, rather than just jumping in. However, if I was in charge I would have tried him alongside both Matip and Lovren in preseason to see which developed the better partnership.

As for buying, Koulibaly would be the one I would go for, from the ones I have seen.}

11 Sep 2017 15:21:59
Give gomes games this season and he will be well prepared to partner vvd next season. If they sell to us.

11 Sep 2017 15:52:21
Do you think we might look to bring one in in January ed? Appreciate its along way off mate.

{Ed002's Note - Kalidou Koulibaly is not an option for January and thus far Klopp does not see the issues that others do with his interest beyond van Dijk seemingly non existant. Although a number of clubs are already talking January transfers between them it is a very difficult time to plan to do any specific business.}

11 Sep 2017 15:53:52
Really think we should have moved in for Sule before Bayern Signed him. Looked really good last season.

{Ed002's Note - He had already agreed to join Bayern Munich. There was interest from England but not from Liverpool.}

11 Sep 2017 16:27:30
I think taa will become a fantastic player. Probably midfielder but inexperience can cost in tough games. Against the very best teams I would line up.

Gk = karius
RB = Milner
RCB = gomes
LCB = lovren
LB = Robertson.

Defencively I feel these are the best players we have at the club. Ed is right when he says gomes should play, he may make mistakes born out of inexperience but our experienced cbs are making mistakes anyway so what do we have to lose? In fact we stand to gain a young experienced quality cb.

I know Milner at RB may be controversial and taa must be given games to gain experience and confidence but in some games we have to lay off the total football and use our heads. Milner may be able to take charge back there and he won't need to keep cutting onto his right foot like he did at lb.

We missed coutinio against city but the player we really missed was lallana imo.

11 Sep 2017 16:40:38
We need 2 STELLAR centre halfs not one.

11 Sep 2017 16:42:52
Thank you eds, for replies, real champs u guys! Cheers.

11 Sep 2017 16:49:07
I'd agree with you Ed on putting him in with Lovren, although he has mistakes in him I think he'd concentrate better with the young lad beside him. I just don't see Gomez getting help from Matip, he'd be hung out to dry when Matip goes wandering and doesn't come back to cover. Could be the making of Lovren, hope it happens as what we are currently doing is certainly not working.

{Ed001's Note - that would be my concern with Matip, he just wanders off with no thought. I don't mind the going forward bit, but I object to him strolling back when we are being attacked and he could easily help.}

11 Sep 2017 17:59:58
How can all the fans and pundits see for past 2 seasons the need centre backs and 4 eyed Klopp doesn't, how can he not see this.

11 Sep 2017 18:17:34
That is a distinct lack of desire and laziness on his part, Ed and that is unacceptable. But the media and some of the fans seem to never give him the business and on the other hand, look to blame Klava or Lovren for everything.

Look at City's first goal. When we lose the ball, Klavan has Aguero and Jesus either side of him. What was Matip doing? He just stood there and did not recognize the danger and shuffle back. Had he done that, it would have put Aguero off with Matip forcing him wide. Instead who got the blame? Klavan. Same with Karius. He got the blame for our loss and draw to B'mouth and WH whereas his defence hung him out to dry and offered no protection.



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