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03 Oct 2017 00:55:22
When will another football team come and play football against LFC are we going to have to play against ten men behind the ball every match . These team never seem to play this way against united, city, Chelsea, arsenal, spurs? Let's see if Huddersfield play this way because they didn't against spurs on Saturday it is becoming boring watching this type of football I know teams are trying to survive but it is killing the premier league as entertainment value and people will become fed up paying to watch boring football . all football teams in the premier league have a duty to produce entertaining games not the dross they are serving against LFC.

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03 Oct 2017 01:44:06
Thing is, we are a team that could thrive playing counter-attack. So why don't we sit back too? Would it result in the ball sitting on the centre spot with everyone refusing to kick it?

03 Oct 2017 05:22:25
I'd go for me, Baine, and The Bat Tumbler. Jokes aside, Casemiro, Nzonzi, Magic.

03 Oct 2017 07:12:46
Of course they will, it's a tactic that's proven to work.

{Ed025's Note - its a tactic made up by liverpool supporters to justify poor performances, all this "they park the bus"and they dont come and play football is a total cop out, teams have different styles and some may play on the counter which liverpool have used before to great effect, maybe you want to pick their teams for them and force them to play 7 forwards?, you need to get over yourselves and stop blaming other teams for your own failings..

03 Oct 2017 07:15:05
Awkward - wrong thread lol.

03 Oct 2017 07:42:53
LOL you can’t beat the bus parking team from 2 good years now you want some favor from them lol! And why would they play to your hands mate? Are we giving them
Some cash in return? They don’t have the required quality to play high up and high attacking footie hence they sit back! You got to ask your manager to find a way to break this resilient teams!

Stonage

We simply can’t sit back! You are being fooled by the pace of Mane and Salah! Yes they can beat anyone on the planet but to sit back means you give the opposite. Time and possession and you forms a shape as a team something we are terrible at! Our midfielders are crap in this department and our CB’s lol they can’t deal with a 2 minutes pressure on a corner and you want them to contain an opposition for 90 mts!
Our full backs are not defenders in th first place they are failed wingers who can’t defend.

We keep the ball so we don’t concede much! We don’t keep the ball, the pressure mounts and eventually our defense explodes!

Teams like us and City cannot sit back!

And Boy, ain’t sitting back is called a BORING FOOTBALL on this site by the Supper Aliens! You wanna Piss off the super aliens lol!

{Ed001's Note - you do realise one of our full backs is a centre back not a failed winger right?}

03 Oct 2017 09:20:24
Once again, Harry, you make some good points and undermine your response with cheap digs and childish name calling. It us a pity.

03 Oct 2017 10:10:38
It's a result business. And the so called lesser teams who don't have £30m to send on Mane, or £30m to spend on Salah, or £40m to spend on Ox, have to find a way to pick up points and stay in the premier league. It's their right to do that anyway they need to. And it's you MANAGERS job to find a way around it. The fact your moaning about the way teams set up against you just because your not winning games is laughable.

{Ed001's Note - hardly laughable, your manager does that every time his team fails to win. It is just the modern way - excuses.}

03 Oct 2017 10:20:06
Once again Andy you ignore the amount of abuse I take on this site for posting anything!

03 Oct 2017 10:40:47
Well Stone Age if your happy watching school yard football that's up to you mate. And we may as well leave the ball on the kick off spot it would be more entertaining.

03 Oct 2017 12:51:43
You need a 'Plan B' for game like that. It's nothing new. MU tend to use Mata to open up parked buses. City do it exceptionally well. Klopp at Dortmund was criticised for never having a 'Plan B'. Going into finals and having only one game plan. Many teams will play this way against Liverpool because it yields results. It's up to the manager to find a way to play against it, by using the players he has or buy players who will help. One way of beating a parked bus is constant crosses into the box, but with Salah, Mane and Firminio there isn't really someone big who can punish a well drilled defence when they are set up to sit back and defend.

03 Oct 2017 12:52:15
Stand, your post is laughable. Your manager invented the phrase "parked the bus". He made a career out of winning that way YET has the gaul to call Sam Allardyce out for employing the very same tactics and called it stone age footie. The hypocrisy is deafening.

Also, Your manager has made a career of blaming everyone from his players to the team doctor for his own failings in fact last season, you would think Luke Shaw was reason for all of Utd's failings last season w/ the way your manager bullied and targeted him at every turn esp. when you did not win which was often (15 draws says it all)

03 Oct 2017 13:44:16
I liked a lot of what you said albeyred but teams aren't required to produce entertaining football. It's the level of technical skill that you pay to see not attractive tactics. If you ask Swansea fans if they would rather grab draws and the odd one nil win with defencive tactics or lose every week playing attractive free fling football.

I really fancy Swansea to be fine this year BTW, perhaps top ten. In glucas and sanchez they have z very exciting central midfield.

{Ed001's Note - seriously? Swansea are god awful to watch and all the fans of the club I know would rather lose and enjoy the game than play like they are and survive. They are used to the likes of Toshack bringing good football, they feel it is a part of the club.

They might survive, but what I saw of Sanchez suggests that he is about as exciting as the pile of dishes waiting for you after Xmas dinner.....}

03 Oct 2017 14:14:29
Sydney

Your are wrong on City! There is no plan B there! They know only one way but are exceptional in that way! UTD will take points from City I am dead certain! What Pep did was to power pack his only plan that is high attacking football with some absolute gems that teams fear to attack them nor they have enough quality to contain them!
UTD has and they will park the bus successfully!

03 Oct 2017 08:33:25
Ed025 - sorry but I can't agree. Some teams do play on the counter attack and that is absolutely fine. But there are also teams that 'park the bus' i. e. play with no intention of winning or even really scoring and just hoping that by playing with a minimum of 8 defensive players at all times, they will avoid another team scoring and get a point out of the tie. It's not a cop out - it's true and its an increasingly accepted phenomenon that breaks the very spirit of the game. It's not just us they do it to.

I consider it the difference between our 2-0 loss to Chelsea with Gerrards slip and our 4-0 to Chelsea a few years ago. When we lost 4-0 they set up to soak up some pressure and hit us hard and fast on the break, with a higher than average success rate. That's a perfectly valid tactic. In the 2-0 loss, they played in a way that made it abundantly clear from minute 1 that if given a perfect chance they would take it, but otherwise they had no intention of attempting to score at any point in the game. It's an important distinction.

{Ed025's Note - i dont think it is hjikle, its an excuse by the attacking team when they cant break a defence down, its up to the attacking team to breach the opponents back line using guile, skill and craft, their failure to do that says a lot more about the attack than the opponents defence and thats why i describe it as a cop out mate, so i think we will just have to agree to disagree on this one..

03 Oct 2017 09:30:45
Spot on, Ed25. I don't really care how other teams play cos there is no rule book that states how football should be played. It is up to us to break down these parked buses and like it or not and contrary to what the perennial moaners want us to believe, we have greatly improved in that regard. We have created a lot more clear chances vs parked buses this season than we were doing last season.

Last season, we were not creating anywhere near the 4/ 5 clear chances we have created in each game vs such teams. We played CP, Newcastle and Burnley and tho we beat CP 1-0 and should have been more, we created 4 clear chances vs both Burnley and Newcastle, which should have been enough to win both games. Last season not only were we not breaking teams down consistently (we did a fair lot of the time last season), we were actually losing such games.

Klopp bringing in Salah and a fit Cou has helped a lot and with Lallana coming back in the midfield will offer a lot more guile than it is doing right now. Our strikers just have to improve their finishing to help offset the one error our defenders or GK will be prone to in every game. That last part is sad but true.

{Ed025's Note - players like mane and salah have the skill to break down any defence bingo, i hate all the whinging about mythical buses being parked when an attack cant breach a well organised back line mate..

03 Oct 2017 12:32:00
25, I only just saw your response and feel a little hurt, you're normally so nice : (

As for my point I stick by it. There's a clear correlation between teams ceding us possession and getting better results. Of course they all have slight variation but it's fundamentally; let Liverpool hold possession in midfield, close down the space in their own final third, wait for Liverpool to lose possession, exploit the space behind Liverpool's midfield, repeat. It doesn't work every time but it gives a 'lesser' team the best chance of getting a result against us. It's not about a team playing the wrong way is about our opposition exploiting our weakness.

{Ed025's Note - you have just reiterated exactly what i was saying putney, teams will always try to find flaws in their opponents style and thats fair game to me, all this cry baby nonsense over parked buses is an excuse for under performing forwards to justify being crap mate..

03 Oct 2017 18:01:26
Ed25, I agree with you fully as I mentioned in my post. The whinging needs to end cos it smacks of desperation and deflection, IMO. Let us leave that to the like of Mou who in this regard, escoriates teams for using the very tactics he himself brought to the PL and still uses till this day.

{Ed025's Note - your right bingo..

03 Oct 2017 20:36:55
Yeah the days of nice football at Swansea appear to be long gone. At least since Monk took over.

04 Oct 2017 20:45:02
Chicken or egg, Harry? Which came first?







 

 

 
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